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A character is reluctant to give out a particular bit of information (no matter how important) because the way they acquired that knowledge is an Old Shame, revealing of their criminal lifestyle, or otherwise distasteful. See also ...Or So I Heard, I Read It for the Articles, Morton's Fork, Embarrassing Cover Up, and Big Secret. Compare Unbelievable Source Plot, where they want to share their knowledge but can't; Closet Geek, where the social stigma of having nerdy interests is shameful; and I Never Said It Was Poison, where a character accidentally implicates themselves in a crime by revealing too much information. Also compare Unconventional Learning Experience for examples in Real Life (though not always shameful or embarrassing). |
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The Ballad of Halo Jones: At the end of book one, Halo gets a job on the space liner Clara Pandy because she can speak Cetacean. When challenged by her friend Rodice she admits she learned it as a member of the (deeply uncool) Ritit Rikti Fan Club when she was younger, but didn't want anyone to know that she was a teenage Aqua-Boppette. | |
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In Frankenstein, Victor's brother William is murdered and a locket is stolen from his body, and Justine is accused of the murder when the locket is discovered in her possession. Victor suspects the monster he created of the murder and believes Justine was framed, but can't speak in her defence out of fear that he'd be deemed insane if he tried to reveal the monster's existence to anyone else. | |
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At several points in the games of the Chzo Mythos, NPCs will refuse to give the player useful information because it would reveal questionable acts they did. Two important cases are Adam in 7 Days A Skeptic, who against orders opened the locker they bring on board and doesn't tell the others what was in it, and Samantha in 6 Days A Sacrifice, who never tells her allies what she did while working for the cult. | |
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The Ship Who...: In PartnerShip, the five Royal Brats who Nancia ferries to their remote postings in the Nyota system are all planning to use their positions for various kinds of corrupt practices (they even have a bet going; the one who makes the most shady money in five years gets a cut of the others' operations). However, Nancia can't tell anyone about it because she got the information by refusing to introduce herself and letting them think they were aboard a mindless drone, which is considered tantamount to spying. | |
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The Simpsons One episode has Bart playing truant from school and sneaking into a party for Mayor Quimby's Jerkass nephew Freddy, during which Bart witnesses one of the waiters having a string of incredibly clumsy accidents, and Freddy is arrested after being accused of beating the waiter up. Since Principal Skinner is one of the jurors at the trial, Bart is then faced with a moral dilemma between letting an innocent man go to jail, or testifying on his behalf and confessing to his truancy in front of the Principal. Another episode featured Bart working at a burlesque house, and a few Springfieldians taking offense. One of them is Principal Skinner, who found out about it by visiting the burlesque house. |
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In the dark humor RPG Paranoia you are tasked with rooting out the commie mutant traitors within Alpha Complex. The thing is, you are a commie mutant traitor yourself (as is everyone else). Naturally, knowing anything about traitorous activities, even what they are, makes you a prime suspect for being a traitor. | |
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In The Dresden Files, it is eventually revealed Bob knows how to kill immortals. The reason he's in hiding is that if he goes spilling the beans the powers that be will actively hunt him down rather than just tolerate his continued exile. Making this more of a Fearful Source of Knowledge. A straighter example would be Bob's source of necromancy knowledge. |
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The Judge Dee Fan Sequel "The Chinese judge's survival guide" sees the judge looking for the head of a vast conspiracy to send troublemakers and criminals to an out-of-the-way town when a shopkeeper reports Tao Gan's shoplifting to the local judge. This turns out to be a mistake, since Dee deduces that if the shopkeeper caught Tao (a very good thief), he must be a professional himself. And if he can go and report it without caring that this automatically marks him as a criminal as well, then there is a very good chance the man he's looking for is in the town. He's right. | |
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In the Cyanide and Happiness animation "Fart-in-a-jar Martin goes to jail", Martin ends up being convicted of multiple murders because he's too embarrassed to use a jar he farted in as an alibi at his trial. | |
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Arcade Gannon from Fallout: New Vegas will occasionally display a surprising level of knowledge on certain obscure topics, such as vertibirds or the top-secret SEMELE research project, but will always backpedal and deflect the question if asked how he knows so much. Gain his trust and he'll reveal where his knowledge of these things comes from - his parents were Punch Clock Villains and members of the Enclave, a nazi-esque faction that wants to restore the old American government by committing genocide against the Wasteland's inhabitants. | |
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The Order of the Stick: Vaarsuvius learned how to defeat Laurin while bound and gagged in hell. The reason for it was that Vaarsuvius's own soul had once been "rented" to three fiends. Played for Laughs in an early strip, in which Haley convinces the party they can trust some teenage goblins who are rebelling against their race's Always Chaotic Evil culture. When Elan asks her how she understands the teenage mindset so well, a flashback panel shows 15 year old Haley dressed as a Goth and arguing with her father, before Haley deflects the question with a sheepish "...no reason." |
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Legally Blonde: Brooke Windham's lawyers beg Brooke for an alibi to save her from going to jail for her husband's murder. It turns out she has one— she was getting a liposuction, and as fitness mogul, such knowledge would ruin her reputation. Elle agrees to keep this a secret. | |
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In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Dax", the Dax symbiote in Jadzia Dax's body is placed on trial when Ilon Tandro accuses one of the symbiote's previous hosts, Curzon Dax, of treason and the murder of his father General Ardelon Tandro. Curzon is believed to be the only person who could have committed the crime and was never able to provide himself an alibi, but Jadzia refuses to speak in his defense despite the symbiote giving her access to Curzon's memories. General Tandro's widow Enina is also incredibly reluctant to involve herself in the trial, but eventually provides Dax with an alibi - she was having an affair with Curzon Dax, and he was in her bed at the time of her husband's death. There's another layer as well; Enina also knows the real truth of how General Tandro died, which she confesses to Dax - he attempted to sell out his own people to the rebels and they killed him for it, but this truth remains hidden to preserve Tandro's image as a inspirational war hero. | |
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A major plot point in The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim's College of Winterhold questline is the need to recover the Staff of Magnus. Although he won't tell you directly, it turns out the College's Arch-Mage, Savos Aren, knows exactly where the staff is - he once led an expedition into the dungeon of Labyrinthian trying to find it. Two of his friends were killed as they descended into the dungeon, and when the expedition awoke Morokei, an evil Dragon Priest, Savos was forced to lock two others in the dungeon to prevent Morokei from escaping. | |
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M*A*S*H. In "Tea and Empathy", a passing soldier confesses to Father Mulcahy that he was involved with the Black Market, and reveals that stolen penicillin is kept under an old bell in a burned-out school house. As it turns out, the 4077th is having a dire penicillin shortage and can't obtain any new supplies, leaving Mulcahy conflicted about what he should do about what he knows about the whereabouts of some penicillin. He ultimately decides to go to the school house and steal back the stolen penicillin, and then has to dodge questions from Colonel Potter about the fact that the cases of drugs he brought back have the same markings as some cases that had just been stolen from the 4077th. | |
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Subverted in Star Trek: Lower Decks: Boimler has no hesitation about providing his copies of the ship's logs as trial evidence even though they're full of embarrassing personal additions, but Mariner thinks they'll be dismissed as a joke because of them and refuses. | |
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The Sting: Doyle Lonnegan tries to cheat Henry Gondorff with a stacked deck during a poker game, but Gondorff outsmarts him by switching out the cards he was given for better ones. | |
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The RPG version of Legend of the Five Rings includes several skills that are classified as "Low Skills" such as Forgery, Sleight of Hand, and Temptation, which if you ever exhibit or imply knowledge of, will lead to dishonor. There are, however, exceptions (for example, if you're among the Crab Clan, Shadowlands Lore is not considered dishonorable to know—because only an idiot wouldn't study the Shadowlands when you live on their goddamn border). | |
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Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords Atton Rand tries to explain away how he knows so much about Jedi and hand-to-hand fighting. Get enough influence with him, and he spills the beans - he was a Jedi-hunter for the Empire after betraying the Republic Army. After one of his victims showed him he was Force Sensitive and therefore a good candidate for ending up on the other side of the torture rack, he changed his name and ran away, trying to pass himself off as a low-rent smuggler. | |
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Questionable Content: Marten's mother is a BDSM fetish model, but was apparently good at keeping her job and family separate, enough that Marten didn't get teased about it. Presumably, none of the kids' parents were going to say anything on the subject either. | |
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One Buck Danny story has him compete against a foreign pilot. The pilot, knowing Danny's plane has been sabotaged, challenges Buck to an acrobatics duel, adding a condition in which both pilots will prove their skill by repeating the previous pilot's figures and add one of his own (the stress quickly destroying Buck's plane). Buck accepts, then adds a condition of his own: that they prove their skill by operating on unfamiliar machines by switching planes (having learned of his plane's sabotage). The foreign pilot quickly backs down. | |
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Saturday Night Live: From a Weekend Update segment on January 25, 2014: | |
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The Innsmouth Legacy. In Deep Roots, the Irregulars realise that FBI agent Ron Spector has been replaced by an imposter because this closet homosexual is Distracted by the Sexy. Unfortunately they can't reveal how they knew because it would mean the end of Spector's career. | |
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Several episodes of Midsomer Murders have characters not reveal information that could have prevented someone's death, as this would also force them to reveal that they're cheating on their spouse or involved in shady deals with other inhabitants of Midsomer. | |
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