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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction

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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction	comment	This is the scale which tries to encapsulate how abusive and not-so-abusive parents' behaviors towards their children are judged by writers. As some authors like to remind you that a single bad day makes you evil and some others think that teenagers from 13 and up should be left to fend for themselves, this can create serious Values Dissonance. The usual examples of said dissonance usually consist of this: mothers tend to be portrayed more sympathetically than fathers (unless they have a career); the protagonist will usually have an excuse or be forgiven for the neglect that befalls their children; a dad or a mom has a much smaller chance to be seen as a villain; the dad who left the mom and the child fending for themselves and died a hero in the war becomes much more beloved than the mother who tries to prevent the child from staying up too late; and neglectful parents who let their children do whatever they want with no ill consequences are usually more popular with a young fandom than a rightly overprotective parent. It also complicates matters if the parents have more than one child (especially if one is adopted and they are treated more as guardians than parents) and treat them on a very different level. Their behavior might belong on a different category depending on the child. A high level of parent-shaming is usually a warning sign for The Woobie, and a high number of these parents is usually a warning sign for a Crapsack World. Note that it can include older siblings and caretakers behaving as parents would.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_135f97c9	comment	Emma: Mr Woodhouse let his daughter become the mistress of the house and convinced her that he couldn't bear her marriage if she left home. Being clever, cunning, and having no future perspectives for herself, she fully focuses on a hilarious matchmaking business. Need we say it goes as awry as it can in a Jane Austen novel ?.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_1858fe06	comment	In the Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics), Locke, Knuckles' father, has a questionable parenting technique. When Knuckles was still just an egg, Locke had him bombarded with radiation from a Chaos Emerald. When Knuckles was three, Locke began training him to be Guardian of Angel Island. This upset his wife, Lara-Le, and the two argued on how to raise Knuckles. The two divorced and Locke, being a Guardian, was given full custody of Knuckles. When Knuckles was five, they moved out of the city and into the wilderness, where Knuckles' training continued. Oh, and Locke told Knuckles his mother was dead. When Knuckles was ten, Locke told his son he had to leave, then walked into a wall of fire, leaving Knuckles completely alone so that he would grow up to become independent. Until Knuckles was 15, Locke had him under constant surveillance to monitor his progress. Locke admits that his parenting skills are lacking, but he was more concerned with making Knuckles into a good Guardian than being a good dad.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_1b386512	comment	Ranma Â½: Both of Ranma's Parents are Type IV, despite being Played for Laughs Genma Saotome is a type IV. He raised Ranma to only respect martial arts prowess and have no concept of how to deal with girls. But it is his infamous training methods, especially the Cat-Fist, which make him a lousy parent. Ranma's mother, Nodoka Saotome, is arguably worse in some aspects. While she isn't as harsh when she interacts with Ranma, due to a contract she made with Genma, if Ranma isn't manly enough in her eyes, she will kill Ranma and Genma via Seppuku, and seems ready to draw her katana at any hint of Ranma being unmanly.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_1ee8851d	comment	Mother from Wild ARMs. If your idea of being a loving parent involves forcing your newborn son to watch his home world burn as you fly off to the next world you plan to destroy then forcing him to become an Omnicidal Maniac like yourself by eating him alive to control what he does, you definitely belong here.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_2126592a	comment	Shiho Nishizumi from Girls und Panzer, mainly to her younger daughter Miho. She belittles Miho's approach to tankery, calling her "foolish" to ask whether Maho needed to fire on a tank from the opposing team that was trying to save one from her team even when she was winning, and berates Miho from later saving a tank from her team, even though her team lost, seemingly as a result of that decision. She even goes so far as to plan to cast Miho out of the family due to not liking her approach to tankery, although, in the end, she has a moment in which she can be interpreted as accepting Miho's way of tankery. It's somewhat telling that Maho, Shiho's eldest daughter and heiress, as well as the person who seems spared from most of her mistreatment, only decides to live up to being heiress so that Miho will not have to.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_2268de37	comment	Grimm has a special example. Giving The Scrappy Abusive Parents rarely creates audience sympathy, and can cause cries of Sympathetic Sue. But Adalind Schade, who appeared like a shallow Manipulative Bastard for seventeen episodes, is an exception to this rule. What she does is mostly supervised by her mom, Catherine. She physically and emotionally abuses her and flirts with her daughter's Fetishized Abuser while encouraging Adalind to pursue him because he's powerful and she's got evil plans to carry out. When Adalind isn't being efficient enough, Catherine throws her out, and almost shouts: "You're Defiled Forever, geddit?". Later on, Adalind keeps audience sympathy even amongst the fans of the ship she apparently sunk.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_24a0eb84	comment	The Shining: Jack Torrance breaks his son Danny's arm in a fit of rage, and it's shown that he's incredibly cruel and hostile to others which results in the rest of his family suffering. While he lost control at a certain point, his repressed negative feelings towards his wife and child eventually lead to the house possessing him and trying to make him kill them, but he still clearly very deeply loves his son, to the point of briefly snapping out of the hotel's possession to save him and say goodbye to him.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_25f6f1a0	comment	Dear God, Umineko: When They Cry has the some of the worst parents ever. Kinzo Ushiromiya treats his entire family as pawns in order to summon Beatrice and treats his children, who are already adults, like shit. Before that, he imprisoned his illegitimate daughter and raped her because she bore the physical appearance of his first love. But that award goes to his daughter, Rosa, who is very abusive to her own daughter, Maria. Her worst actions are in Episode 1 and Episode 4 where she slapped Maria hard for saying "Uu-uu-uu!" and tears up her favorite doll, Sakutaro. That part in Episode 4 rips her back though.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_27f4c7fb	comment	In Coraline, the Other Mother is abusive and locks up children's souls in a secret place, but you could argue that the parental role is a facade anyways.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_2a8943c0	comment	Miraculous Ladybug: Season 2 pushed Gabriel Agreste over this line: He was already a controlling, emotionally neglectful and generally unpleasant individual who barely acknowledged his son Adrien's existence except when he was useful, but then it turned out that he was the Big Bad. Any lingering audience sympathy for Gabriel due to mitigating circumstances was largely wiped out by "Gorizilla", after his latest scheme very nearly got Adrien killed.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_2f2f1ab7	comment	The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea: Ariel, to Melody, but only by hiding a part of her heritage in order to protect her. The dramatic music playing in the background when Melody bursts into tears because of Ariel's reprimand makes clear that the writer considered this was serious business. Perhaps her only mistake was not to trust her for the case.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_2f340346	comment	In Of Blood and Steel, Riko "Erwin" Matsumoto's mother comes off as a bit cold, telling Erwin in no uncertain terms that they'll have to move from Oarai to Raven's Peak, because of her new job. The decision is justified, since the Matsumotos need the money, but the rather blunt way Mrs. Matsumoto delivers the news results in Erwin feeling bitter for some time.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3197442a	comment	Axel in Memories of Infinite's Past emotionally abuses his son, Zero, and never showed any love for him, no matter how much he tried to be like him, a professional thief, and appease him with his steals. He even tries to kill him later on! However, what saves him from being unforgivable is that he lost his wife Ellie, the only person who loved him, to Zero's birth, which caused him to be so bitter and blaming of Zero in the first place. Zero even acknowledges and mourns him for this after killing him.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_32c541e6	comment	Fullmetal Alchemist: Infamously, Shou Tucker, the Sewing-Life Alchemist. Both his wife and daughter are turned into mere fodder for his alchemical experiments.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_331e009	comment	Borderlands 2 has Handsome Jack, who turned out to be the father of Angel, who turned out to be a Siren, forcibly held captive by him as a living battery, a horrendous process that causes her great pain through the use of so much Eridium that she has to have it in order to live. Jack has a very twisted way of loving his daughter despite the fact that she's secretly helping the Vault Hunters to free her from his control. After you're forced to Mercy Kill her, Jack gets livid that he orders a bounty on your head for killing his daughter and wants you dead. Though Angel herself didn't really think highly of him for what he did to her: her last words were: "Dad, I have to tell you something... you're an asshole."
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3436775c	comment	Alison Dubois and Joe, from Medium, were this at worst during the first couple of seasons. They are very conservative and quite strict, but they mean well and (unless Alison is possessed or they are possessed) treat their daughters in a coherent, constructive and loving way. However, they also force them to apply themselves to quite high and sometimes contradictory standards. This leads to many The Reason You Suck Speeches from one of them to the other. Their daughter Bridget later feels neglected in comparison of the two other much more glaringly perfect sisters. Ultimately, they all regress into a not-abusive-at-all state, after some type III episodes when the visions badly shake one of them, or in very dramatic Alternate Universes where they understandably lose control. Since Arielle, the eldest daughter, behaves as a caretaker and is influenced by their behavior, she is also a part of the equation. She behaves mostly as they ask but treats Bridget much more harshly than they do, and finds her free-minded, less socially conformist behavior annoying. Bridget ends up lashing out at her, viciously telling her why she won't miss her when she goes to college. Arielle is very affected, and it takes a ghost intervention to set things right.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3953baf0	comment	Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre Dame is this to Quasimodo, who he terrifies and manipulates. He accidentally murdered Quasi's mother and tried to murder Quasimodo himself at the beginning of the movie, but took him home because he feared damnation. Frollo is more than ready to kill Quasimodo at the end of the movie.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_39bd4a10	comment	Deathstroke, real name Slade Wilson, was a long-time nemesis of the Teen Titans, and has a terrible parenting record. Because of his activities as a mercenary, a rival kidnapped his son, Joseph. When trying to rescue Joeseph, the boy's throat got slit, leaving him a mute. His wife was so angry she shot Slade in the face, causing him to lose his right eye, then divorced him. Slade's other son Grant grew into a mercinary himself, and worked for the HIVE. They augmented his abilities and sent him to fight the Titans, but the augmentations failed and Grant died. Slade then decided to get revenge on the Titans, and manipulated a young girl, Terra, to infiltrate the Titan's rannks'. Terra was a teenager, and the two slept together. Terra would later die after turning agaist the Titans. Slade also killed his son Joseph when the boy became possesed by a demon. Later, Slade would find he had a daughter, Rose, who he at one point brainwashed into serving him.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_39d92b2f	comment	In the TV series of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, Precia Testarossa whips Fate when she fails to do well enough on her quest for Jewel Seeds, and when it's revealed that Fate was actually a clone of Precia's dead daughter Alicia, whom Precia wants to revive with Fate's efforts, Precia denounces Fate as worthless and laughs off Fate's telling her that even if she doesn't consider Fate her daughter, Fate will consider Precia her mother.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3b34143f	comment	In Harry Potter, Vernon Dursley hates Harry for what he is and treats him like dung. When the Hogwarts invitation arrived for Harry, Vernon did all his might to prevent him from touching it until Hagrid intervenes, It gets worse in the second book where he locks up all of Harry's wizarding stuff and after Harry received a warning from the Ministry of Magic due to Dobby's meddling, Vernon locks him up in his room with full intent to keep him from returning to Hogwarts. He gets civil to his nephew later on with one rule which is not mentioning about magic to anyone. Then in the fifth book, he attempted to kick Harry out of the house upon learning that Voldemort is back to kill him until Dumbledore's Howler came to remind him. Though he is one of the most despised characters in the series, the only thing that prevents him from being a fully blown monster is his love for his wife and son, Petunia and Dudley. Though he and his wife were also terrible parents toward Dudley in a different way, spoiling and indulging him, never punishing him for anything, and never raising him to be a good person. In the sixth book, Dumbledore points out that what they've done to Dudley is actually worse than what they've done to Harry.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3bc82010	comment	Don Wei of Ōban Star-Racers became upset when his wife died in a racing accident. He took his only daugheter, Eva, and abandoned her in a boarding school with an abusive dean because she looked too much like his deceased wife, and never bothered contacting her even once. He then went on to become an abusive boss at his company. When Eva escaped from the boarding shcool and met her fathter, he didn't recognize her. Eva actually impressed her dad with her mechanic skills, and took on an alias, Molly, so she could participate in the upcoming Great Race of ÅŒban. Later, when she revelaed who she really was to her dad, she absolutly hammered home how bad a person he had been.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3d22c14b	comment	Mobile Suit Gundam 00: Colonel Sergei Smirnov had a strained relationship with his son, Andrei, and at the start of Season 2, he's surprised that he joined the A-Laws, though he treats him coldly. It's revealed that Andrei resented his father for not telling him the reason behind his mother's death and believed that he got her killed. It gets worse later on when Andrei kills his own father on the assumption that he's helping the Federation rebels. However, Sergei's father-daughter relationship with Soma Peries / Marie Parfacy is way better. When Soma's personality as Marie returns, he tells Allelujah to keep her out of battle and is grateful when Marie told him that the Soma Peries personality still sees him as a father. This was used later on when Soma/Marie told Andrei that the colonel still cared for him and couldn't bring himself to tell the truth about his mother's death, much to Andrei's grief and regret.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3d44f19	comment	In The Doomy Adventures of Irken Doominess: Nel's parents are type 2. They physically abused Nel and her sisters, but after Nel ran away from home, they had a My God, What Have I Done? moment. When Nel went to confront her parents, she realized they were no longer mean and forgave them.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3e8c09b9	comment	In Attack on Titan, Reiner Braun's mother is apparently responsible for all the suffering in his life, as well as everyone who's died because of her son's actions. Apparently wanting to get back at her lover and improve her own lot in life, she manipulates her son into joining the Warrior unit and becoming host to the Armored Titan, which gives him 13 years to live, simply by saying that if he does so, he'll be reunited with his father. Reiner realizes too late that his father wants nothing to do with him.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_3fbb42bb	comment	In White Devil of the Moon Precia outdoes herself by crossing a line that she never crossed in canon. She whips her biological daughter Alicia, whose death drove her to grief-induced madness and villainy, and whom she successfully revived in this fic, when Alicia tries to stop her from whipping Fate. This act helps Fate realize just what a monster Precia is, so Fate kills Precia.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_43576f5	comment	John Winchester of Supernatural is sympathetic once we know his history, but still falls here. He ostracizes Sam for going to Stanford when he could be hunting monsters; Dean has an obedient and authoritarian attitude towards John that John apparently prefers; he made his sons spend their childhood as traveling Hunters despite the many disadvantages of this lifestyle; and he is usually portrayed as an emotionally distant drunk. But he did it all because the Yellow-Eyed demon has plans for Sam and there was probably no course of action that had a better chance of saving Sam from these plans. (Although we can still ask, was he right to keep so much of his rationale a secret, instead of telling Sam and Dean?) A few episodes have him one level down, such as in "Bad Boys" when he apparently allowed Dean to be sent to a boy's home when he was caught stealing food (!), to "teach him a lesson" - the characterization is somewhat inconsistent.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_4456bd7b	comment	Riverdale: Honestly, if there was a Type V, the Blossoms would be this. They start out seeming to be the perfect definition of Type IV, then we learn Clifford literally killed his own son.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_44c9b62	comment	In Saki Shinohayu -dawn of age-, Kousuke, Shino's uncle and Parental Substitute after her mother's disappearance, tries to sell the mahjong set they and Shino's Missing Mom played with, noticing Shino's depression. He thinks that having it around as a reminder of her mother will only make her depression worse (but since one tile is missing, the pawn shop owner says he doesn't think the set will sell). Shino is quite upset to learn about this, since she had hoped to enter a mahjong tournament in order to get her mother to come find her. However, when Kousuke sees Shino entering a tournament and enjoying herself, he comes up to her afterward and apologizes, saying that he was too busy with his job and the search for her mother to pay attention to her. He tells her that he will support what she wants to do from now on and gets the set back from the shop; they start playing together again.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_44fe781e	comment	Neon Genesis Evangelion: After his wife's death, Gendo Ikari became obsessed in getting her back and sent their son, Shinji, away. Ten years later he summoned his son... to pilot a giant robot and fight alien monsters. In the End of Evangelion Gendo admits he avoided his son because he felt unworthy of being a parent and feared he would only do a bad job and mess up Shinji by raising him, and therefore reasoned that his son would ultimately be better off without him in his life. Gendo at least had a (bad) excuse, but Asuka's father is even worse. When his wife got crazy and was committed he begun an affair with his wife's doctor... where his three-year-old daughter could hear them. Did he care? Not at all. When Asuka was four she found her mother's corpse hanging from the ceiling. Did he care? Not at all. He married his mistress and more or less left his daughter to her own devices.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_48ed41c8	comment	In Disney's Pocahontas, the chief Powathan proves quite forceful in pushing Pocahontas into marriage with Kocoum. He also refuses to listen to her pleas and tells her "You cannot imagine how much I am ashamed of you" while also knowing that his approval and her people were so important for her that she considered letting go of the possibility of freedom for them. He eventually gets better, and had apparently always been kinder up to this period, but during this moment, he clearly but briefly crosses a line. This was not approved of by some highly-regarded members of Native American communities, as it goes against a Native American principle to always listen to one's children. However, he redeems himself for this and becomes non-abusive when he listens to her in the end of the movie, which an American Indian spokesman described as the moment in which the movie redeemed itself by showing someone practicing an American Indian culture accurately by way of this character, at least on this point.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_495f277f	comment	Hayate the Combat Butler's parents fulfill Type IV as they cross the Moral Event Horizon by selling their son's organs to the frigging Yakuza. Their abusiveness was originally Played for Laughs.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_4ab60cf9	comment	The magician queen mother of the first version of "Snow White" reported by the Brothers Grimm could be this, as she sincerely desired a child.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_4e3408a6	comment	Dr. Mar Londo in Legion of Super-Heroes experimented on his unwilling son, turning him into a werewolf-like creature. He wanted to create a monster (by using a human for a template rather than an animal like his previous experiments) for the purpose of serving him as a general for his army for galactic domination. To make matters worse he thinks his son should be thanking him for this.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_4f091b42	comment	Kotetsu T. Kaburagi of Tiger & Bunny is a single father who is constantly working at his dream job as a superhero. He doesn't spend time with his daughter, who lives with her uncle and grandmother and doesn't care about him being a superhero. This becomes a problem later on when Kotetsu's powers start to dwindle and he has trouble trying to explain this to her and his partner, Barnaby.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_4f115950	comment	Robin: Tim's parents absentee parenting style is clearly not good for him, although his mother was murdered prior to the start of the series. His father doesn't really have any place trying to parent him when he is home either given how emotionally abusive he is without even realizing it and the fact that he tends to treat Tim as a status symbol rather than his own person. Bruce's displeasure with the Drakes' parenting was made clear long before Tim got his own ongoing:
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_56dce3c1	comment	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 gives us Ego, the Living Planet, who is Peter "Star-Lord" Quill's biological father. At first, he seemed to be a cool dad and he and his son bonded so quickly after years of being separated. Turns out it's not the case: he wanted to use Peter's Celestial powers for his Assimilation plot to replace life with himself and killed all of his children who turned out to be failures for not having any Celestial powers. It also turns out that he is responsible for the death of Peter's mother, Meredith, by giving her the brain tumor despite claiming that he really loved her but his love for her distracted his plans. Then, he destroys Peter's walkman which was Meredith's last connection to her son. Peter didn't take what his father had done very well, which makes Yondu right about Ego: He is a jackass.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_56dce3c2	comment	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 has the High Evolutionary, the creator of Rocket Raccoon, the Sovereign, and several other species and creatures. The High Evolutionary presents himself as a benevolent creator, but this facade is quickly destroyed when it's revealed he uplifts animals into intelligence via painful and torturous experiments. His delusional, impossibly high standards for "perfection" cause him to abuse and lash out at his creations, which he usually locks in dirty cages. And whenever a species or society he creates fails him, he destroys the planet and the entire population just to start over again.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_57430640	comment	In Speed Grapher, Shinzen underfeeds, slaps, belittles, and pretty much pimps Kagura to Suitengu, as revenge because Kagura's father ran out on them when she was pregnant.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_5908ee91	comment	Lord Harkon of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim expansion Dawnguard gets this spot. He's a thoroughly nasty vampire lord who allowed the Daedric Lord of Rape and Domination, Molag Bal, to have his way with both his wife and his daughter in order to make them vampires, and then became obsessed with a prophecy to blot out the sun, to the point that he sealed his daughter in darkness for at least a thousand years for trying to defy him, and drove his wife to hide out in the Soul Cairn just to get away from him. And then when he sees his daughter, Serana, again, all he gives a damn about is whether or not she has the Elder Scroll he needs to make the prophecy a reality. And he doesn't even give a damn about Serana at all, only about her blood which can be used to blot out the sun, which he tries to kill her for at the end of the Dawnguard storyline.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_5921531a	comment	Yukari's mother in Persona 3 was so broken by the death of her husband that she neglected Yukari and began many shallow relationships with men, resulting in mother and daughter being estranged for years. That said, she does see the error of her ways, and promises not to try to get remarried until her daughter forgives her. Yukari also gradually comes to understand how her mother felt, and realizes that they aren't that different, (which is especially true in light of The Answer), so she hesitantly decides to reconcile with her mother.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_5921531b	comment	Most parents who are involved in Social Links in Persona 4 fall into this category. Dojima rarely spends time with Nanako because he's afraid of failing her, Eri has trouble bonding with her stepson Yuuta due to internalizing questionable ideas about being a mother and Shu's mother, by lavishing praise on her son, ends up inadvertently convincing him that he can only please her by doing well at school. What keeps them out of Type II is the fact that they recognize their flaws and work on overcoming them, and that like the rest of the Social Links, they're portrayed as well-intentioned but flawed individuals with the potential to change for the better.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_5ce3fc86	comment	In Soul Eater, Medusa's behaviour towards Crona, whom she barely treated as anything but a test subject, is this.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_6053d9f9	comment	In a pivotal moment in the history of the town of Silent Hill, Dahlia Gillespie set her seven year old daughter Alessa on fire as part of a ritual to impregnate her with some kind of god/demon entity, and then proceeded to keep her alive in agony with full body burns for seven years while she incubated it.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_60e3cb5e	comment	Kyoko Zeppelin Soryu lost her sanity after her Contact Experiment with Unit-02 and ignored her daughter Asuka for most of her childhood. When Asuka was selected as an EVA pilot, Kyoko hung herself in front of her daughter, the incident traumatizing Asuka for the rest of her life. The manga adaptation makes her even worse, with her attempting to kill Asuka at some point. The reason she's not a Type IV is due to her aforementioned insanity, meaning she wasn't in the right state of mind at the time, and assists Asuka during her battle with the Eva-Series.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_6276800c	comment	The Nostalgia Critic's parents only stay in Type III because he can remember a few good moments and still love them despite portraying them as monsters when he was little.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_62f64536	comment	Touch is set in a world where magical powers run in families, but only manifest through some form of trauma. This has resulted in otherwise decent parents believing that it's okay to harm their children just enough for them to get superpowers. Caspar's parents wound up abusing him for years hoping for this to work, and while the dad hated doing it, the mother seems more coldly pragmatic about the issue. Meanwhile, their kid does wind up getting powers, and now hates them, running away from home upon learning the truth. When Peter was seven his parents, Hideyoshi and Tsuru, captured a faun, which is a Supernatural Fear Inducer, and locked him in a room with it for three hours. They only let him out when he began begging them in Turkish. As far as we know this was a one-time thing, but Peter outright calls it child abuse, and refuses to do it to his own children.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_6749d524	comment	Rodmilla de Gent from Ever After is certainly evil, but she cares for her eldest daughter and wants the best social position possible for her, while not abusing her other daughter in a different way than when she insults her... There are hints that she was abused by her mother and misses her husband.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_684610	comment	Relius Clover of BlazBlue series. He pretty much sees any human being as a possible live specimen for his mad research, his family included, and has no qualms into snatching their soul away to put them in an inanimate doll (so they become animated) and having them serve as his research project or weapon. The complete one is made of his wife, the incomplete one is made of his daughter, and he left it for his son Carl to finish, completely traumatizing the little boy and making him hate the man. And when the boy has the gall to call him out? Relius just either nonchalantly attempts to kill him (and the resident buxom doctor who calls out his 'awesome' parenting skill) or just shoves him the extent of his mad research, knowing that he'd pass out (in which case he'd probably move in for the kill if uninterrupted).
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_6c4031ea	comment	Snow White's stepmother from Disney's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs qualifies, as she makes Snow White work as a servant, is jealous of her beauty, and acts on said jealousy for a considerable amount of time even before hurting her directly physically.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_6d7c7f1c	comment	Jason's father in Something*Positive was a Type III. He was a psychiatrist who performed experiments on his children and literally tested how much they loved him. As in with multiple choice tests. The fandom had no qualms about Jason putting him down with a single punch the first time he appeared in the comic.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_72262aee	comment	Fire Lord Ozai in Avatar: The Last Airbender burned his own son's face and banished him for three years for refusing to fight him, ultimately becoming the Big Bad of the series.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_7460586f	comment	Malory Archer's questionable parenting techniques are often shown to be cruel, and have done long-term damage to her son Sterling.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_74e4fc4e	comment	In Boys und Sensha-do!, Miho's mother, Shiho, disowns her over her way of sensha-do being incompatible with her family's. In the process, she receives a "The Reason You Suck" Speech from Miho's Love Interest Akio, gets called out by her other daughter, Maho and her husband, and the Sensha-do Federation is considering forcing her to resign. Shiho does, however, claim that she was partly motivated for Miho's sake, reasoning that doing so would allow Miho to live her life freely, and that Miho has support from her friends, although Maho says that what Shiho did is, in and of itself, very painful for Miho, who has wanted her parents' approval.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_77ff1111	comment	Lady Tremaine from the 1950 Disney cinematic version of Cinderella is certainly evil, but she cares for her daughters (who she still abuses, like Cinderella) and wants the best social position for both. It is acknowledged surprisingly easily for such an evil character (even though she never marks her concern, just acts on it).
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_78dd42f4	comment	The enchantress from Rapunzel is very hostile to the young girl's undeserving lover, who is her Prince Charming, and locks her daughter away. Other than that, she is a loving and good mother, and a very responsible person for the two thirds of the fairy tale. Then, she abandons her daughter in the desert and inflicts a painful revenge on her lover.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_7988cb68	comment	Mass Effect: According to Miranda Lawson, her father is a Mad Scientist who desires to create the perfect heir for his dynasty and control them. Later on, Miranda left her father and went to Cerberus while she placed her sister into a foster family to keep her safe from him. In Mass Effect 3, we finally get to meet the guy, and Henry Lawson turns out to be one of the worst human beings you have ever met where he disguised his research facility as a refugee camp and subjected the refugees to indoctrination which resulted in them turning into husks just to find a way to control the Reapers with mixed results. In contrast to other members of Cerberus who wanted the best for humanity, Henry only cares about himself and is willing to kill his own daughters, such that Miranda sending his ass out a window if you manage to save Oriana is hugely satisfying.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_7aacab00	comment	In Somewhere Boy: Steve throughout most of season 1 is a Type IV since even if he kept his son locked up for all his life you could make the argument he cared for him. By the Last Episode of season 1 he quickly slides into a Type V when Danny discovers his dad was lying about the outside world having monsters that might kill him, so he decides to kill him in his sleep, when Danny gives a good fight and refuses to be killed, he kills himself instead in front of his own son.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_7aaf9e41	comment	Also from the Batman-verse we have Dr. Jeremiah Arkham, who kept his daughter Astrid isolated from the outside world for roughly twenty years after his fiancee/Astrid's mother was killed in a riot and overall over-protectiveness (semi-understandable since this is Gotham we're talking about here, but Arkham is admittedly not much better not the least because it explodes constantly). Unfortunately, his patients became more involved in parenting her more than him and they basically raised her as anti-Batman Tyke-Bomb, becoming the Arkham Knight in the process.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_7cf8e9d	comment	Ju Jutsu Kaisen has Kenjaku, an Ancient Evil sorcerer who hijacks the bodies of other people. As Noritoshi Kano, he raped an innocent women for several grisly experiments, creating the curses known as the Death Paintings, who he later uses as pawns. Later in the modern day, he hijacks the body of Kaori Itadori, resulting in the birth of series protagonist Yuji Itadori, purely as a vessal for the King of Curses, Sukuna. He also puts his children in several dangerous situations, like putting Yuji through both the Shibuya Incident and the Culling Game, and both times he reunites with Choso, the eldest Death Painting, he tries to kill him, and in general, treats his children like how he treats everyone else; as pawns to use in his schemes.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_8593da62	comment	In The Gordian Event by Lee Deadkeys, Grandpa Walker tried to teach Frank a lesson after he let their meat rabbits out. He walked Frank outside with a shotgun, where their dogs had torn the rabbits to shreds. He made Frank watch while he shot the dogs, telling him that it was time to face the consequences. Originally, Frank thought the gun was meant for him.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_85b79d17	comment	Black Mirror S04E02: ArkAngel. The mother's intentions were good, but she crossed several lines invading her daughter's privacy, drugging her without her knowledge, etc...
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_87684a93	comment	Virtually all of the parents of the Warriors of Hope in Danganronpa Another Episode: Ultra Despair Girls abused them to the point at which they except for Monaca, who was manipulating them, became suicidal, as well as willing to kill all adults with a little encouragement from Junko Enoshima. Masaru's father physically abused him and forced him to buy alcohol for him even though the only possible way for Masaru to do so was by stealing it. Jataro's mother neglected and verbally abused him to the point at which he's happy if people hate him, simply because they're paying attention to him. Kotoko's father forced her and her mother into prostitution to advance her acting career. Nagisa's parents used him as a test subject to see how much one could study before breaking as part of a twisted experiment for Hope's Peak Academy. Monaca's father and brother physically abused her for being an illegitimate child and while she manipulated them into mass-producing the Monokumas that the Warriors used to take over the town, they were greedy and incompetent enough to let her, which makes them even worse. All of them perish in the kids' uprising, and no one feels much pity for them.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_8c1ea0de	comment	Lord Thomas Bertram and Lady Bertram in the book Mansfield Park. They let Mrs. Norris bring Fanny down, Lady Bertram is lazy and self-involved and Lord Bertram is offensive and critical while it is not needed and tries to make her accept an Arranged Marriage. But Lord Bertram means well and treats her decently and Lady Bertram loves Fanny dearly. This is evidenced by the generally positive view of Lord Bertram and his (justified after the narrator) My God, What Have I Done? moment, and Lady Bertram's ironic but ultimately sympathetic portrayal as a sensitive but self-involved Lazy Bum. Their actions nevertheless lead to Maria and Julia turning into inconsiderate spoiled young girls, which leads to a lot of the problems in the story, but this part was unintended. The Aesop of the book seems to be partly that deep and well-thought education is an important thing, and mustn't be neglected in order to avoid creating self-destructive and self-centered people.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_8c23bed9	comment	Mr. and Mrs. Bennet in Pride and Prejudice. It is outright stated in the book that their parenting mistakes and Mr Bennet's failure at showing respect to his wife are the cause of the family's problems. It can be explained thus: Mr Bennet, despite a great intelligence allied with quick wit and much Jerkass Dissonance, is a cold, critical and neglectful father who leaves all the parenting to his impulsive, mean-spirited, verbally abusive, self-involved and extremely neurotic but ultimately loving wife. He unwittingly forces the children to "choose sides", which is very blatant with all the sisters but the eldest: Elizabeth is a younger girler version of him, with more compassion and indulgence, but still a proud Deadpan Snarker and Horrible Judge of Character. Mary tries to impress him by gaining knowledge and a level-headed exterior, but ultimately ridicules herself. The two other sisters are younger versions of the mother, one of which may be hurt by her father's disdain and controls herself, while the other couldn't care less and ruins the family's reputation because she really doesn't care about the only rational parent's opinion (seeing the way he treats her, many modern readers may accept this as understandable). This directly causes: Elizabeth showing interest in Wickham and imagining that Darcy is a monster while he is more a Jerk with a Heart of Gold and after the revelation becomes her future husband, being asked to marry Mr. Collins, and getting humiliated, Jane to temporarily lose her fiancÃ©, Lydia to marry a remorseless Gold Digger who likes her, and Mary and Kitty to witness all this and react in the most screwed-up way possible. All of the daughters have screwed-up ideas of how people are supposed to behave in relationships, perhaps caused by a feeling of inferiority. Jane doesn't show her interest, Elizabeth is perfectly fine with the man she flirted with marrying a mildly richer woman (and even comments on how modest he is by choosing someone not-so-rich), and Lydia is no exception.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_8fa51384	comment	In Persuasion, Lady Russel encourages the young and innocent Anne to dump her fiancÃ©. Despite her good intentions and true generosity, she is proven wrong when she imagines the marriage wouldn't have worked only because of class pride and a quick first impression of the gentleman. This despite the fact that she has been around Sir Walter Eliott for years, and knows that aristocracy isn't the guarantee for a good personality. She even recognizes it innerly.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_903d6567	comment	Goof Troop has Pete, who is consistently portrayed as being a bad person, not only but especially in regards to his parenting — a strong contrast against Goofy's more loving approach. He is The Chew Toy who suffers Laser-Guided Karma on a regular basis, while his son, PJ, lives in circumstances that lend themselves entirely to our sympathy. Even on this PG show, at best Pete's parenting is narcissistic and bullying. In other circumstances it is manipulative and threatening. And sometimes his treatment of PJ verges on actual physical abuse. There are some hints throughout the series that Pete loves his son but just can't show it right and he does have very rare moments where he will Pet the Dog. Still, one of the subplots in the first movie involved the message "Pete's parenting advice is bad!" and PJ goes through massive Character Development and gets a happy ending in the second movie. Keep in mind that we are happy for him because he's left home and has a nice girlfriend.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_9153ccb1	comment	The Shining: In contrast to his literary equivalent that sits at a type II, Jack Torrance is retooled into a type IV here. Besides breaking his arm, it's heavily implied that before he got to the Overlook he kept Wendy and Danny in a state of terror in order to control them, his tender moments towards Danny are replaced with Wendy doing said activities, and his decision to kill them is a result of finding them inconvenient after being convinced to do so after the Overlook guides him to it.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_91684031	comment	PokÃ©mon Black and White: Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius is the true leader of Team Plasma and the adoptive father of N, a boy with the miraculous gift of being able to communicate with Pokemon, and uses it for his ambitions to Take Over the World. For years, he gaslights and manipulates N to make him Team Plasma's Puppet King, using him to convince people to release their Pokemon, so that no one can stand up to Ghetsis when he tries to rule the world. His Pokemon team is also suspiciously well made to counter N's team, all but stating he was going to kill N when he was of no use to him anymore. He gets even worse in the sequel, where he attempts to kill both the player and N by having the legendary Pokemon Kyurem freeze them, and when offered the chance to reconcile by N, Ghetsis flies into a mad rage, calling N a monster and a "freak without a human heart".
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_9264f35d	comment	Emperor Varenechibel IV of The Goblin Emperor is a reactionary jerkass who thinks very little of his daughters and granddaughters. He also freely sends people who irritate him to confinement in far-off country estates - protagonist Maia, the emperor's youngest son, has spent his entire life up until age 18 essentially under house arrest, neglected and all but forgotten about. This is done for no real reason other than the emperor regretting his arranged marriage to Maia's mother and not wanting to have any reminders of that around him. However, Varenechibel is also universally agreed to have stopped the notorious personal corruption of his own father and grandfather, does generally try to serve the interests of the realm, and while not above acts of petty cruelty towards people that annoy him doesn't appear to take pleasure in it.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_960062b7	comment	My Hero Academia: Endeavor married Rei in hopes of having a child with Combo Platter Powers who could overcome All Might. After one half-failure (Toya, the oldest, whose fire was stronger than his but more unstable and who ran out), he struck gold with Shoto and then proceeded to abuse/train him into becoming a hero.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_98c961e2	comment	Helluva Boss: In Moxxie's flashbacks, Crimson is an abusive father who forced Moxxie to become a seasoned killer at a young age, killed his wife for trying to protect Moxxie, and then neglected his son once his mother was out of the picture unless he needed someone shot. Fast forward to present day, Crimson is a homophobic bigot who thinks that being bi and being gay are the same thing and that all gay/bi people are obsessed with sex including his own son (who is bisexual) and wants to break up Moxxie's loving marriage with Millie to force him to marry his sleezy ex-boyfriend at gun-point.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_98f107f3	comment	Bokurano Jun Ushiro's father adopted him, the son of one of his former students. Both father and son describe the relationship as distant, with the elder Ushiro afraid to get close to his adoptive son, lest Jun reject him. His relationship with his biological daughter Kana is better, but he confesses that his mishandling Jun resulted in his relationship with Kana being damaged. In Jun's last conversation with his father, he apologizes for being a bad son, at which point Mr. Ushiro says that Jun never was a bad son- he himself was a bad father. Akira Tokosumi was often away from home due to his work as a newscaster, resulting in his daughter Aiko (aka Anko) dreaming about becoming an Idol Singer so she could see him, and the two only really began talking in the days leading up to Aiko's battle and death. He gets called out in various ways- his wife's apparently a bit cross with him when he asks about Aiko going to nature school (which got the kids together and kicked off the plot), his boss says he's a great newscaster if not a good father, and Machi is furious when Akira continues filming Zearth's battle after Aiko lost her legs while saving Machi's life.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_9d47a2a2	comment	In the world of A Song of Ice and Fire, many parents from noble families consider their children political pawns to expand their power and prestige. One example is Tywin Lannister, who is more focused in making his House the most powerful and fearful in all of Westeros through such methods as forcing his children into unwanted, politically-motivated marriages. Also, he hates his dwarf son Tyrion for the death of his wife (Tyrion's mother) in childbirth, his dwarfism, and shaming the Lannister name due to his whoremongering and drunken antics. However, the worst thing that Tywin does to Tyrion is having his men gang-rape his wife, Tysha, and forcing him to participate. He also forces his other son Jaime to lie to Tyrion that Tysha was a whore. Though he's disappointed in how his three children turned out, Tywin doesn't ever blame himself for it. Cersei is a horrible parent, too, given how she lets Joffrey do whatever he wants (such as abusing his bride-to-be Sansa Stark, ordering the deaths of those who defied him and having their heads displayed on the castle walls, ordering Ned Stark's execution and instigating a war with the North, etc.) and is very disappointed that his little brother Tommen isn't like him when he tries to stand up for himself. Randyll Tarly is worse than Tywin in that he threatens to arrange for his son, Samwell Tarly, to die in a Hunting "Accident" unless Samwell joins the Night's Watch and forfeits his right to his inheritance, all because Randyll is disappointed with how his son turned out — Samwell loves books, reading, and food, and hates hunting, fighting and blood.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_9f89a5f0	comment	PokÃ©mon: PokÃ©mon Black and White: Ghetsis Harmonia Gropius is the true leader of Team Plasma and the adoptive father of N, a boy with the miraculous gift of being able to communicate with Pokemon, and uses it for his ambitions to Take Over the World. For years, he gaslights and manipulates N to make him Team Plasma's Puppet King, using him to convince people to release their Pokemon, so that no one can stand up to Ghetsis when he tries to rule the world. His Pokemon team is also suspiciously well made to counter N's team, all but stating he was going to kill N when he was of no use to him anymore. He gets even worse in the sequel, where he attempts to kill both the player and N by having the legendary Pokemon Kyurem freeze them, and when offered the chance to reconcile by N, Ghetsis flies into a mad rage, calling N a monster and a "freak without a human heart". PokÃ©mon Sun and Moon: Lusamine is the CEO of the Aether Foundation and the controlling mother of Lillie and Gladion. After the disappearance of her husband Mohn due to Ultra Wormholes, Lusamine became obsessed with Ultra Beasts, the other-worldly Pokemon that came from these wormholes. Her obsession got to the point where she cared about the Ultra Beasts more than her own children, and would force Lillie and Gladion into doing whatever she wanted, while also verbally and psychologically abusing them. At the climax of the game, Lusamine merges with the Ultra Beast Nihilego, and seemingly tries to attack both the player and Lillie.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_a0262740	comment	Charlie and the Chocolate Factory gives us Wonka's dentist father who was so obsessed with teeth that he didn't care about Willy's feelings and part of his development was reconciling with his estranged son.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_a309c5a5	comment	Robby Ray is this, sometimes, in Hannah Montana. He likes to criticize his son Jackson as a Running Gag. Except, when you see all Jackson goes through, it isn't even funny, and numerous times it isn't completely supposed to be. This was finally acknowledged in an episode where Miley accused her grandmother of favoring Jackson over her. Grandma's answer? "Of course, I do. If I didn't, who would?". Robbie Ray recognizes that the situation is bad and tells Jackson that he is proud of him. Unfortunately Miley unwittingly steals the spotlight and by next episode everything snaps back. He lets Jackson be abused by his chief, and refuses to ask a smaller discount for the abuse episodes to decrease in intensity, but can't bear it when he is subjected to a day of it himself. Now remember that most of Robby Ray's time is used to make his popstar daughter have a successful career.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_a4274674	comment	The portrayal of Jonathan Kent in Man of Steel is very controversial to fans of Superman. While his wife helped Clark control and channel his powers, Jonathan doesn't want him to use them out of fear of being exposed to the public, despite the fact that Clark wants to use them for good. It doesn't help that after the bus accident where Clark saves his classmates by using his Super-Strength, he confronts Jonathan: "What am I supposed to do?! Just let them die?!" Jonathan answers, "Maybe". Then, there's the flashback where Clark calls him out, telling Jonathan that he's not his father. It gets worse when he is about to save his adopted dad when the tornado is coming near until Jonathan refuses, which resulted to his death and Clark's grief.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_a656a587	comment	Terry Pratchett's The Truth has an example of a Type IV parent in William de Worde's father. Snobbish, distant, cruel, and outright racist, he turns out to be the main villain when it is discovered that he engineered and led the plot to frame Lord Vetinari for embezzlement and attempted murder.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_a76aa176	comment	In the first episode of Pretty Blood, Rinny tortures her daughter, Nappy, to death. Rinny beat her, made her look at her dad's mutilated corpse, forced her into the torn-open stomach of the corpse, taped her mouth shut when she tried begging her to stop, injected an empty syringe into her back and stabbed her leg with it, painfully hung her up with hooks, stabbed her in the eye with the syringe, and then recorded it and just sat there, getting sexually aroused to the whole thing as her daughter screams and cries in pain. A non-canon Boxing Episode proves Rinny did not change. After brutally beating a yellow cat Malino in a boxing match, Rinny is then met with Nappy again. Nappy, upon realizing it's her mother, begins crying Tears of Joy and gets a Cool-Down Hug from Rinny. Unfortunately, that doesn't last long, as Rinny punches her to the ground afterwards. Rinny slowly approaches Nappy, who begs for mercy, but is given a brutal beatdown anyways. After Rinny lands several blows to the stomach, the last blow eventually causes Nappy to throw up. She then handcuffs Nappy to a chair, tapes her mouth shut again, and slowly beats her to death until she's nothing but a bloody mess.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_ac259af8	comment	While Saki's parents have never been shown engaging in such behavior on-screen, she reveals that in the past, if she lost a mahjong game, her parents would take away her New Year's money, and if she won, her parents would get mad at her. The experience caused her to hate mahjong, but it's also implied that there may be more to her parents' separation than these arguments. Nodoka's father is relatively strict and emotionally distant from her; one morning, the only thing he says to her before she goes to school is that she shouldn't play mahjong as much. He also wants her to give up on playing mahjong and go to a preparatory school, deriding mahjong as a game of chance, and believing that friends will be of no use to her in a "hick town" like the one where she lives. She implies that he's often away from home at night, and only seems to think about him when reflecting on the deal she made with him- she can stay in her current school if she wins the mahjong tournament. By comparison, Nodoka's mother doesn't know about the deal until just before the finals, and doesn't believe that Nodoka should have to go this far just to stay where she is.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_b2e4a147	comment	Helen Graham from The Tenant of Wildfell Hall is considered this in-universe by her neighbors as she is an example of My Beloved Smother who won't let her son drink alcohol or do dangerous things, and even claims that she would rather see him dead than becoming what her neighbor calls "a man from the world" after a stressful moment. She is actually a combination of Broken Bird and Good Is Not Nice, and tries to avoid the situation in which he would become like her own father and her husband, both alcoholics, neglectful fathers, and generally hedonistic men.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_b30ae4db	comment	In Game of Thrones, the TV adaptation of A Song Of Ice and Fire, several of the Type IV parents receive Adaptational Heroism, making them a little more sympathetic. One example would be Cersei Lannister, who doesn't care of Joffrey's behavior in the books. In the show, she's actually aware of the horrible things that Joffrey does and does not approve of them, which makes her a tragic character. Her Kick the Dog moments from the book (such as ordering the deaths of Robert's bastard children and attempting to have her brother Tyrion killed during the Battle of Blackwater) are given to Joffrey. After Joffrey dies of poison, Cersei becomes concerned for the safety of her younger children, Myrcella and Tommen. In contrast, Stannis Baratheon receives an Adaptational Villainy but he loves his daughter, Shireen, and does everything he can to cure her greyscale. When this fails, he refuses to send her to the Doom of Valryia. But in times of desperation when the Boltons get the best of him, Stannis has no choice but to agree to allow Melisandre to burn Shireen alive to appease the Lord of Light in hopes it will allow him to defeat the Boltons. However, half of his army abandons him as a result and Stannis is defeated by the Boltons, leaving Stannis deeply grieved over the loss of his daughter and his wife.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_b36b99c6	comment	Hulk has David Banner, the biological father of Bruce "Krenzler" Banner. He wanted to push the limit of humanity by experimenting on himself, which resulted in his son contracting a "disease". When his son was young, he killed his wife Edith in front of his own son. He was imprisoned for thirty years and grew a Beard of Sorrow. As he left jail, he was provoking his son and those who have met him and claimed he never did anything wrong. He tested on himself and was able to absorb everything he touches. He claimed that Bruce isn't his son but his essence is. His existence is the reason why the Hulk exists.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_b49c4048	comment	In Agnes Grey, the pupils' parents are this trope. Not because they abuse them, but because, for most of them, unlike Agnes' supportive, loving and heroic parents with whom they contrast, they couldn't care less about what their children do. This is one of Agnes' biggest issues, as she must deal with Spoiled Brats or manipulative people at best and enfants terribles at worst, while having all the duties of a parent and almost none of the rights and honours of the function.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_b5c89107	comment	Carrie: Margaret White is a ridiculously abusive religious nutcase who likes to lock Carrie in her horrible "prayer closet" whenever she does something "sinful", including simply having her first period. The book version is the worst in this regard, as it says she sometimes locks Carrie in there for days at a time, and we get a lovely flashback where Carrie goes to a summer camp despite her mother's wishes and is bullied so badly (including almost being drowned), that she comes home with her eyes red and swollen from crying. Margaret tells her she deserves it because summer camps are evil, and then locks poor Carrie in the closet again.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_b8fd85	comment	Mrs Dashwood in Sense and Sensibility. She is one of the best mothers in Jane Austen's books, but she never realizes that Elinor, her eldest daughter who isn't as passionate as her and her younger daughter, can suffer as deeply as them, and acts much more constructively as the author quickly notes before explicitly writing that the favorite is Marianne, not Elinor. It reinforces Elinor's isolation in a painful situation out of which she pulls herself alone.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_bfd7c6e0	comment	Quain'tana in Drowtales probably falls here, since while she is a horribly abusive parent whose many misdeeds include letting one of her daughters be abused by her soldiers, and who is implied as ordering her to be raped to try and conceive an heir after she became infertile, and later resorting to taking said daughter's child to raise as her own, she's not pure evil, and her early life as a street rat with no parents of her own is implied to be the reason she has no idea how to raise her own children. Given that the setting also has Grey-and-Grey Morality she's still also one of the more heroic characters whose goals, mainly tearing down the caste system and uplifting the common people, are noble and sympathetic.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_c0b99d18	comment	Five Nights at Freddy's (2023) has William Afton, a Serial Killer who murders children, who also has a child of his own, in his daughter, Vanessa. Afton psychologically and verbally abuses Vanessa, forcing her to cover up and be complacent to his crimes. What really pushes Afton here is the climax of the movie, when Vanessa stands up to him, he stabs her in the gut, attempting to kill her for her insolence.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_c4d1c0e8	comment	In Bloom Into You, Touko's parents are shown to be loving, if a bit aloof, but unwittingly encourage Touko to be just like her sister Mio after the latter's death seven years before the start of the story. Touko's father does try to suggest that Touko doesn't need to push herself so hard, but Touko has spent so long chasing after Mio that she doesn't take it well. After Touko successfully revives the School Play, a school tradition that ended after Mio's death, Touko's parents realize that they should be there for her more.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_d0beafcf	comment	This is how Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are portrayed in Pride & Prejudice (2005). Mrs. Bennet is neurotic and self-focused, but both practical and well-meaning. Mr. Bennet is overly snarky and not implicated enough in his two youngest daughters' lives, but also kind and well-meaning (it is stated as such in the many analyses and in the DVD commentary). The book was much more pejorative in its treatment of their education.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_d27c007d	comment	Kill la Kill's Ragyo Kiryuin is hardly acknowledged as another human being, primarily due to her horrible and downright creepy treatment of her daughter Satsuki, and because she's a Life Fiber hybrid who chose to embrace the evil alien side. And that's even before we learn what she did to her other daughter Ryuko — or what she does to her when she gets her hands on her.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_d4f9ccf	comment	The Sultan to Jasmine in Aladdin. He didn't force her into an arranged marriage, but strongly encouraged her, because he genuinely thought it would be best for her. She dreamed of freedom and recognition to such a point that she puts herself in danger in order to have a taste of it. She also sets doves free while dreamily watching them flying to a far away place, which is not a good omen to begin with...
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_d502170c	comment	PokÃ©mon Sun and Moon: Lusamine is the CEO of the Aether Foundation and the controlling mother of Lillie and Gladion. After the disappearance of her husband Mohn due to Ultra Wormholes, Lusamine became obsessed with Ultra Beasts, the other-worldly Pokemon that came from these wormholes. Her obsession got to the point where she cared about the Ultra Beasts more than her own children, and would force Lillie and Gladion into doing whatever she wanted, while also verbally and psychologically abusing them. At the climax of the game, Lusamine merges with the Ultra Beast Nihilego, and seemingly tries to attack both the player and Lillie.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_d57e9015	comment	OMORI: The entire main friend group is plagued by issues with their parents. Sunny's father left the family, and his mother has done little to feed him or help him with his depression and anxiety once he isolated himself after accidentally killing his older sister (whose contributing perfectionism is implied to have been worsened by their parents). Kel was The Unfavorite to his parents for his entire life and is still quite curt about it. Kel's older brother Hero was likely also influenced by them to give up his dream of being a professional cook. Aubrey's parents are divorced, and her mother neglected to keep her house livable or even attend to her. Somewhat similarly, Basil's parents are too busy to have seen him in a very long time, giving him issues with abandonment.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_d8c2cfe4	comment	Hank Pym from Ant-Man had a strained relationship with his daughter, Hope, and lied to her about her mother's death. As a result, Hope sides with Darren Cross to take over his company until she found out that Cross is not a nice man so she went back to her father. However, Hank refuses to let Hope take the Ant-Man mantle and instead has the ex-con, Scott Lang, do it. This further strains the relationship. Later on, Hank tells his daughter that his wife is The Wasp, who helped him during his superhero days and made a Heroic Sacrifice in one of their missions which caused him him retire and blame himself for it. After this revelation, the two reconciled. In The Stinger, Hank decides to let Hope inherit the Wasp mantle by presenting her the new suit.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_da861da1	comment	Veronica Mars: Aaron Echolls is this. He would routinely beat Logan. He also cheated on his wife with several other women, including Logan's girlfriend who he groomed and later murdered. The Mannings are almost as bad as Aaron. As overzealous religious fundamentalists they would regularly psychologically abuse their children. Even going as far as to lock their youngest, Grace, in a closet and force her to fill entire notebooks with the phrase "The path of God is paved with righteousness."
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_db96ded4	comment	Yakone in The Legend of Korra forced his sons to go through harsh training, verbally abused them, made them inflict abuse on helpless animals and tried to get them to hurt each other, all so he could raise them to be Tykebombs for his revenge. And it WORKED.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_de6659ec	comment	In Once Upon a Time, Regina's mother abused her physically and emotionally, tried to make her a Gold Digger, and finally used the same heart spell than Regina on her fiance. There are only hints about her having a tragic backstory which are finally revealed to be a bit exxagerated (she was just poor and humiliated), so, if they aren't further explored, the writers' treatment will be this. As of season 2, episode 9, she tried to rip her daughter's heart out after learning that Regina wanted her hurt. This serves to contrast Cora/Regina, since Regina does a lot of sacrifices for her son. As of 2x16 Cora does love her daughter, but a spell prevented her from feeling it properly for most of her life. When she is freed and feels it she says that her daughter would have been enough, even without power.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_e26905cd	comment	Tekken: Heihachi Mishima threw his son, Kazuya, into a ravine. Apparently, Kazuya came back alive, defeated his father and tossed him into the same ravine. Of course, Heihachi came back very pissed that he threw Kazuya into a volcano. And that's the first glimpse of the Mishima family dynamics. Apparently, Kazuya doesn't win the "Father of the Year" award either since he's willing to harm his own son, Jin Kazama. Granted, the Mishima family is cursed with the Devil Gene and Kazuya is very open in accepting his heritage as it makes him stronger.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_e7d67cd3	comment	Code Geass. Emperor Charles di Britannia is a Social Darwinist who didn't answer his son's question about his wife's death and sent him and Nunnally to Japan which he invaded later on, causing Lelouch to start his rebellion against the Britannian Empire. However, it's revealed that Charles sent his children there in order to protect them from his older and immortal brother, V.V., who is Marianne's killer, though she escaped death thanks to her Geass which allowed her to reside in Anya's body. And his invasion of Japan was to secure the entrance to the Sword of Akasha where he and Marianne can make a world without lies. But Charles and Marianne go back to Type IV because they don't care that their actions resulted in a bloody and needless war and they abandoned their children and never considered their feelings on the matter. C.C. even tells them that the only love they really have is for themselves.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_e8595ff9	comment	Mother Gothel in Tangled is evil and abusive, and wants to be eternally young more than anything. To this end, she manipulates and gaslights Rapunzel, inculcating paranoia and an inferiority complex. She is in type IV just like her fairy tale counterpart. Even her apparent Pet the Dog moments are deeply ironic — like saying "I love you" to Rapunzel's hair instead of Rapunzel herself.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_e89f120b	comment	Mobile Suit Gundam: Amuro Rey's father is rarely at home and usually busy building the eponymous Gundam, though the first episode showed that he, at some point, cared about him with his picture on his desk. And then he ends up dead. The mother chose to stay on Earth and is heavily implied to have been having an affair. However, Amuro still cares about her by the time he returns to Earth and his hometown. The relationship fell apart when Amuro killed a Zeon soldier in front of her and he outright said that he has to fight to protect, which his mother doesn't accept.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_e936047a	comment	Hey Arnold!: Helga Pataki's parents don't pay much attention to her because they're too busy doting on her older sister, Olga, who is eventually stressed out by her parents' attention. The mom, Miriam, is possibly alcoholic and sometimes forgetful, which causes Helga to look down on her; meanwhile, her dad, Bob, is busy with his beeper business and tries to groom Helga into becoming like Olga, much to Helga's dismay. Their lack of attention toward her is pretty much responsible for making her into a bullying Tsundere. However, they do care about her, and at least attempt to make up for their mistakes once Helga calls them out.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_eb5d7301	comment	Amphibia has King Aldrich, and the Leviathan Family as a whole. A Big, Screwed-Up Family of despotic Multiversal Conquerors who assimilate themselves into the Core to become Immortal. For millenium, the Leviathan ancestors and current king would Gaslight and manipulate their heirs to become psychopathic warlords like them, prominently displayed with Aldrich's manipulation of his son Andrias. When Andrias accidentally loses the Calamity Box, Aldrich and the other Leviathans guilt-trip Andrias for the next 1000 years to make him their obedient servant, and when he breaks down in regret and despair in All In, Aldrich resorts to a painful Mind Rape to force Andrias to keep fighting for them. In the series finale, Andrias finally has enough of his family's abuse, and helps the Calamity Trio in destroying the Core.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_f0889491	comment	Lord Thomas Bertram in the Mansfield Park adaptations. He is portrayed as a cold, but well-meaning father figure to Fanny. Much more efficient and generous than her Affably Selfish father and mother.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_f7ed2fd7	comment	In The Little Mermaid (1989), King Triton destroys Ariel's prized possessions as punishment for her intense curiosity about the human world and failure to heed his warnings that humans are dangerous. While his concern is understandable enough and he shows remorse and is later forgiven, this reaction is abusive and uncalled for to say the least and ends up driving Ariel straight to Ursula.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_f97683ef	comment	In Hollow Knight: The Pale King and White Lady were King and Queen of Hallownest, with the Pale King ousting the previous ruler of bugkind in Hallownest, the Radiance, by essentially replacing her as the object of worship and physical God of Hallownest. The Radiance, enraged at being forgotten, forced her way into the dreams of the populace, and her rage manifested as a malignant infection that drives the infected mad and aggressive. Seeing this threat to his kingdom, and unable to find a solution, the Pale King became desperate and decided on a 'cruel' plan - Killing thousands of his own children to have them reanimated with Void as Vessels, which could then contain and seal the Radiance. The exact details of what he did are not known, however from context clues in the game, it is likely that the Queen spread her 'seeds' or left her eggs in the Abyss. Their spawn then died in the Abyss, and Shades from the Void became infused into their dead shells, taking their shape and purpose and becoming Vessels. These Vessels then competed with each other to crawl out of the Abyss by instinctively going towards the only source of light at the top of the Abyss drop. This light may have been from the Pale King himself, standing at the top of the Abyss and watching as the Vessels struggled towards him. The Vessels that failed to make it to the top fell down to the bottom of the Abyss, their shells cracking on impact and releasing their Shades, but now with no shells to give them purpose. This continued until the entire base of the Abyss is literally covered in thousands of broken bugshells, with aggressive lost Shades occasionally forming and dissipating. After getting the 'perfect' Vessel he wanted, the Pale King sealed the 'refuse and regret' away and refused to return to the Abyss or face those remaining Vessels ever again. Both parents were not entirely heartless, the Pale King was more of a Well-Intentioned Extremist and felt remorse but reasoned there "was no cost too great" in sacrificing his spawn for the sake of preserving the Kingdom and his subjects. The White Lady felt great shame for her part in the Vessel's creation, and despite her "voracious desire" to keep breeding, had herself physically bound to prevent herself from ever birthing more spawn as a kind of penance. Ironically however, it is because the King was not entirely heartless and bonded with the original Hollow Knight and tarnished it with an "idea instilled" that doomed the plan, making all the sacrifices pointless.
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Sliding Scale of Parent-Shaming in Fiction / int_fa3976bb	comment	Rip Blazkowicz, BJ's father who we meet in Wolfenstein The New Colossus, is a racist, abusive asshole who terrorized his Jewish wife (who he married solely for her business connections) and son, beating the two of them, forbidding them from interacting with other races, treating them like dirt, and even forces BJ to shoot his own dog after it attacked him after he hit his wife. If BJ refuses, he does it himself, calling his son weak. Once the Nazis take over, he happily sells out his neighbors and friends to them and even his own wife once she calls him out for it. BJ confronts him years later and slaughters him without flinching.
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