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Some people just can't let go of the past, but this guy really takes it to extremes. It's not even his past much of the time, but he's still bitter about real or perceived injustices that happened before he was born, and will let anyone in earshot know, given half a chance. Much of the angst seems to stem from the frustration of having to grow up "in a world I never made." The stereotypical version is someone from the Deep South who's always complaining bitterly about "The War of Northern Aggression", but it can also apply to plenty of other conflicts, real or fictitious. Very much Truth in Television. This is similar to, but different from, The Remnant, where a character is literally still fighting against his enemies from a war that he actually took part in, but which is now over. A Government in Exile is when the old government still exists in some form. See also Mexico Called; They Want Texas Back. |
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Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood: Big Bad Barnsby was a Colonel in the Confederate army, and refused to surrender after the Union won, instead taking his men and waging a guerilla war against the U.S. He intends to use the lost gold of Juarez to raise a new Confederate army and resume fighting the Civil War openly. He also has a vendetta against the main characters for deserting his army unit during the last year of the war. | |
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In The Little Colonel, Lionel Barrymore plays an embittered ex-Confederate who lost his son in the war and now hates all "Yankees". When his daughter marries a Northerner, he responds by disowning her and the couple moves away. Years later, she returns with his granddaughter, played by Shirley Temple. You can figure out the rest of the plot from there. | |
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Jonny Quest: The Real Adventures: "The Spectre of the Pine Barrens" involves Team Quest running into a pair of Feuding Families still waging the Revolutionary War deep in the woods of New Jersey (one family were the descendants of a Red Coat that stole the real Declaration of Independence and the other were the descendants of the soldier sent to recapture it — they managed to keep their lines going by dressing up as The Jersey Devil and kidnapping kids every once in a while). When Team Quest tries to explain to them that the war is long over, the British lost and the Declaration was remade and signed, both sides get pissed, call them spies, and try to kill them. | |
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In one Looney Tunes short ("Southern Fried Rabbit", 1953), Bugs Bunny encounters a Rebel general (Yosemite Sam) who still believes the war is on and is still following orders given to him by Robert E. Lee to blast any Yankee that tries to cross the Mason-Dixon Line. When Bugs informs him that the war ended almost 90 years ago (as of the time of the cartoon's release), Sam's response is "I ain't no clock-watcher!" | |
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The Outer Limits (1995): In the episode "Gettysburg", the main characters are two friends who are also American Civil War reenactors. While for one of them it's apparently just a hobby, the other one is somewhat obsessed with the legacy of the Confederacy and wishes they had won the war, arguing that the Confederate States embodied several other policies aside from slavery such as greater state rights. They are visited by a time traveler from the future who sends them both back in time to the actual Battle of Gettysburg so they can take part in it under the command of an unhinged Colonel to discover for themselves that War Is Hell and make them see the error of their ways. It turns out that the Confederate fanboy would otherwise have assassinated the first black U.S. President at a Civil War memorial ceremony in 2013. He doesn't go through with this since he ends up getting himself killed, but the murder is instead committed by the Confederate Colonel when he's accidentally transported to the future in a Cruel Twist Ending. | |
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In Jack of All Trades, Jack runs into his friends Lewis and Clark, famous explorers with horrible sense of direction, who has yet to be informed that the war with Britain has ended. When they encounter Emilia (Jack's British partner) they capture her, and refuse to believe Jack's claims of her being on his side. | |
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Commander Clash falls into this for part of his first episode of Captain Planet and the Planeteers. | |
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There was a minor heel named Jean Lafitte who claimed to be the direct ancestor of the 19th-century French pirate with the same name. Lafitte dressed up as his (supposed) famous ancestor and announced he was out for revenge against all Americans (and one Canadian) for an 1807 law that blockaded New Orleans, preventing pirates from entering the city note In fact, the blockade of New Orleans was part of a nationwide embargo intended to preserve American neutrality with both Britain and France, and had practically nothing to do with pirates. This was in the mid-1990s - long, long after America had collectively forgotten that the blockade had ever happened. | |
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Curtis Axel was ambushed from behind by Erick Rowan just as he was trying to enter the 2015 Royal Rumble Match. For nearly four months afterwards, he continued to insist that he had never been eliminated (because he hadn't been knocked over any of the top ropes of the ring) - and that he was "still in the Royal Rumble." Then someone did knock him over the ropes one night, but that still didn't shut him up, and he just went on acting as if he were still in the (by now long-over) Rumble Match, setting a "record time" of untold thousands of hours! Eventually his mind snapped to the point where he just started imitating Hulk Hogan, which led to his Heel–Face Turn. | |
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The Peacock family from The X-Files episode "Home". When Mulder & Scully come across the matriarch, she rails at them about the War of Northern Aggression. The episode is set in Pennsylvania - a Union state - so the Peacocks were either invaders from the South or Confederate sympathizers. | |
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CM Punk enjoyed the longest single WWE Championship reign since the 1980s, at well over 400 days (November 2011 to January 2013). When he lost his title to The Rock after their match was restarted once it was proven that The Shield had intervened, Punk claimed that he'd been unfairly robbed of the title, that the Rock's victory was a farce, and that his record title run was continuing despite even what WWE itself said. Eventually even he had to acknowledge that he was in a disadvantageous position, so he challenged Royal Rumble winner John Cena for his WrestleMania title shot - and lost, in what many consider to be one of the most epic WWE matches ever shown on television. Only then did Punk give up on the title, moving on to his obsession with trying to end the career of The Undertaker. | |
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42: One of Jackie Robinson's teammates refers to this trope by name when talking about southern crowds booing Jackie for breaking the color barrier in Major League Baseball. | |
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Granny from The Beverly Hillbillies is still fighting the Civil War. She constantly proclaims her admiration for "President Jefferson Davis", refusing to acknowledge anyone else. At one point she literally attacked the General Grant and his army, or at least a bunch of actors portraying them in a movie being shot nearby. | |
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Dishonored Roleplaying Game: The island of Morley attempted to secede from the Empire of the Isles in 1801, 36 years before the start of the first Dishonored game. Many of the natives still resent Gristol and support the idea of an independent Morley, some even going so far as to join criminal gangs or extremist groups like the Ox Tongues, who seek to drive out Imperial influence no matter the cost. | |
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M*A*S*H: In the episode "The Tooth Shall Set You Free", Colonel Potter says the trope name almost verbatim to Maj. Weems, a racist engineer officer who's been sending blacks out to do the most dangerous duties in the hopes that he can get them wounded so bad that they'll get sent home or even killed. All this in the futile pursuit of reversing by default the Army desegregation order of 1948. | |
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In one episode of NCIS, a Middle Eastern suspect is amazed that the Americans are helping the British because "they burned your capitol in 1812." | |
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Subverted in The Cleveland Show when Cleveland's Half-Witted Hillbilly friend Lester gets Mistaken for Racist for flying a Confederate flag, prompting a feud between the two. Turns out he was just a big The Dukes of Hazzard fan and didn't even know what the Confederacy was. | |
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In Johnny Got His Gun (set about ten years later), the protagonist Joe recalls a Scottish soldier who refused to fight against a Bavarian regiment because they were led by Crown Prince Rupert, who held the Jacobite claim to the throne of England. He's amazed the soldier's superiors didn't just shoot him for treason; instead, they rotated him to the back of the trenches until the Bavarians themselves were rotated out. | |
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The Elder Scrolls: The Reachmen are the natives of a region known as the Reach which faced repeated colonization efforts by larger powers throughout Tamriel and failed wars of rebellion to drive the Imperial colonizers out of their land. By the time of the fifth game, the Reachmen have mostly integrated into wider society and written off revolution against the occupiers as a lost cause, but a terrorist group known as the Forsworn refuses to back down and persists in waging a guerrilla campaign against the Imperials and Stormcloaks alike as if they are still amidst the ancient wars. Most Reachmen see the Forsworn as a bunch of madmen who are making things worse for everyone and getting innocents killed in a useless Cycle of Revenge, while Forsworn see their brethren who fail to follow them into battle as race traitors who are bending the knee to the occupation. | |
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GUN: Downplayed with Sergeant Hollister and his Renegade Army, who have moved into violent attacks against anyone who crosses their paths, and still wear parts of their old confederate uniforms, mixed with war paint and feathers. Averted with Big Bad, former Confederate major and current railroad tycoon Thomas Macgruder, even during the actual Civil War, all he cared about was finding the lost Golden City of Quivira, and that hasn't changed. | |
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The Rocky and Bullwinkle episode "Wossamotta's Shining Season" is all about this trope. Bullwinkle and Rocky play football, and at one point the whole thing turns into a reenactment of a Civil War battle. There's a southern, Kentucky-colonel-type character who can't abide the use of the word "Civil" directing things, and a character actually says, "Shoot, they're gonna fight the whole war over again!" (But this time, the "Sooth" wins) | |
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My World… and Welcome to It: The character of John's great-grandpa Skinner is encountered in "The Night the House Caught Fire" — and as John tells Lydia, "For grandpa, the Civil War had never ended. We always had to keep him from freeing our cook." He’s an atypical example of a veteran from the Yankee side shown believing this, one who among other things is seen wearing a Union soldier's cap and reciting the poem "Barbara Frietchie" with gusto. Subverted as it's eventually revealed that great-grandpa Skinner was never actually in the war (he worked in a brewery in Cincinnati during those years) and made his stories up to entertain John and his siblings. | |
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Splatoon: A century ago, the Great Turf War between the Inklings and the Octarians ended with the Inklings as the victors, forcing the Octarians to retreat into underground domes while the Inklings retained control over the surface. DJ Octavio, leader of the Octarian Army, remains bitter about the loss and plots to start a second Great Turf War by stealing the Great Zapfish to power up his Great Octoweapons and reclaim the surface... 100 years later. By that time, a new generation of Inklings only know of the Great Turf War as ancient history, have no particular animosity towards Octarians, and think Octavio is just a rad underground DJ, even enjoying the provocative music he aired during a hijacked broadcast. The only Inkling willing to engage in Octavio's desire for war is his old Arch-Enemy Cap'n Cuttlefish, who can only recruit his granddaughters and one random Inkling into his New Squidbeak Splatoon. After the events of Splatoon 2, many (possibly even most) Octolings end up leaving the Octarian Army to live alongside the Inklings in Inkopolis and beyond, reducing Ocatavio's forces into The Remnant fighting a lost cause. | |
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The Deputy Dawg Show: In one short, the gang encounter an old Confederate soldier causing trouble who thinks the war is still going on. | |
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Beast Wars: A recurring theme and major backstory element of the series is that many Predacons are still sore about their ancestors — the Decepticons — having lost the Great War, often because they feel the now-ruling Maximals — descendants of the Autobots — are oppressing them for the Sins of Our Fathers. Some Preds feel it more than others and actively scheme to get revenge by restarting the war in Predacon favor; this includes the Tripredacus Council, the corrupt rulers of the Predacons who are secretly playing the long game, and the series' main villains, Megatron and the crew of the Darksyde, a band of criminals and wannabe revolutionaries who want to start the revolution now and view the Council as weak for engaging in Realpolitik instead of taking the fight to the Maximals. | |
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South Park: In one episode, the boys get in an argument prior to performing for the Union in a Civil War Reenactment, prompting Cartman to join the Confederacy. When he's made fun of for joining the losing side, he tries to one-up them by getting the performers so drunk they forget it's a reenactment and fight for real. Surprisingly, Cartman builds an army that comes very close to overturning the war. In another, the boys get entangled in a conspiracy started by America's oldest enemy: the British. When their invading armada get intercepted before it can reach American shores, the soldiers lament being "unable to end the Revolutionary War." |
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The Lemoyne Raiders from Red Dead Redemption 2 are a gang of aging raiders found in the swamplands of Lemoyne who still wear Confederate uniforms. | |
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In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Jenny Calendar's Romani uncle is extremely passionate about the need for ongoing revenge against Angel for killing a Romani girl two centuries ago. So much so he is fine with Angel losing his soul if that means denying him happiness. Angelus murders him. | |
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Mal in Firefly. He actually did fight in the war with the Alliance, but his attitude during the show is mostly restricted to grumbling and griping, not trying to continue fighting for a lost cause. Doesn't mean he won't strike his own small little blows every now and then against the Alliance, though he is (for the most part) level-headed enough to know that being able to "keep flying" takes prime importance. His backstory has him continue fighting the Final Battle of the civil war, the battle of Serenity Valley, leading thousands of other Independent soldiers even after their top superiors had surrendered and officially lost the war. The comics include a terrorist group of former Independent soldiers called the Dust Devils who have vowed never to stop fighting the war against the Alliance. Interestingly, Mal was never a member. His second-in-command Zoe, on the other hand, used to be. | |
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The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye and The Transformers: Robots in Disguise have several characters (mostly Decepticons) trying to keep the war going, even though it ended some years back, and everyone around them is ambivalent about it starting up again at best. Some, like Prowl or the Decepticon Justice Division are more direct about it than others - the D.J.D. refuse to stand down, even having been told the war's over, because they haven't heard Megatron say so (and when they do hear it, their boss decides it doesn't matter, and Megatron needs to die). | |
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