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Tautological Templar

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Tautological Templar	comment	Considering all the dog-kicking and in some cases murdering, the Knight Templar gets into, sooner or later a(nother) good character is going to get the courage to ask them something. How on earth do they believe themselves to be "absolutely good", given just how spiteful and needlessly cruelnote often toward people who have only committed the most minor of crimes they are? The Knight Templar's answer is simple: they are good, and their every action is good because they are good. That headache you're feeling right now is the mounting frustration most characters feel at the realization that they're dealing with a Tautological Templar, a character who has been radicalized to a cause for so long that they cannot comprehend the idea that they could be immoral or that what they're doing could be wrong. Alternatively, this could be an outright villain who is deluded enough that they can justify completely selfish behavior as being for the greater good, such as claiming that The Hero is the evil one because they keep foiling their plans which are, of course, going to make the world a better place, because they are the one who will be running it. Tautology is a term meaning that something is true in every possible interpretation; a Tautological Templar, then, is a character who can justify absolutely any sort of behavior to themselves because no matter what it was, they are arrogant, fanatical, or Ax-Crazy enough to interpret it as being the right thing. In the eyes of a Tautological Templar, they are incapable of committing atrocities, even if they do the exact same thing they hate others for doing (murder, arson, rape). If someone else commits a crime, it's evil, but if a Tautological Templar commits the exact same deed, they justify it or even go as far as to say they did a good thing instead of a bad. A Knight Templar would be at least nominally aware of the moral implications of their actions, and would have a justification that acknowledges that - I Did What I Had to Do, the outcome will vindicate them, brutality and atrocity is the only language that evil understands, and so on and so forth. A Tautological Templar would never say that, because they are incapable of envisioning a scenario where they are morally in the wrong. This character may look like a Hypocrite (they probably are, but are too stupid, self-righteous, deluded, and/or willfully ignorant to understand it), but in reality, they are far more dangerous than that. Because they can't comprehend the concept of Moral Myopia, they will throw themself into any struggle with the same force, conviction, and resolve that The Hero shows against the Big Bad. That's because, in their worldview, every enemy they have is twirling a handlebar mustache, madly cackling while tying orphans to the railroad tracks — even if said enemy is The Hero. Can often come about unintentionally as a result of a Designated Hero, most often when a writer is trying to rationalize the character's action but is having trouble doing so. A Well-Intentioned Extremist may also be one of these, provided they're genuinely oblivious to the suffering they have caused in the name of the greater good. At the same time, however, overlap with the latter is rare, as they are far more likely to be what particularly desperate, battle-weary, or dogmatic WIEs turn into - generally, if you can apply both labels, it is usually the point where the WIE is on the verge of He Who Fights Monsters and will lose any sort of reasonable justifiability. This is because a WIE who has crossed into this territory can justify anything, no matter how heinous, and neither understands nor cares that they are committing atrocities. In general, if you feel inclined to put on a page "Well-Intentioned Extremist: This character thinks they are this", then you are probably dealing with this trope. Sometimes related to What Is Evil?. People generally don't think of themselves as evil, but following the true way. In Real Life, this may result from cognitive dissonance, the psychological discomfort produced by holding beliefs that conflict with one's actions. In order to relieve this discomfort, people may subconsciously modify their beliefs to justify their actions. Or they may simply be practicing Doublethink. A form of It's All About Me mixed with Never My Fault and Obliviously Evil. Such characters are also prone to Believing Their Own Lies, and for their followers to do so with Blind Obedience. If the Designated Hero is called out for acting this way, it's What the Hell, Hero? See also Superdickery, For Great Justice, Lawful Stupid, Holier Than Thou, Screw the Rules, I Make Them!. If the hero really IS a hero, but fans see him like one of these, you may have a case of Ron the Death Eater on your hands. If a character comes across this way despite the author's intentions, you might have a case of Protagonist-Centered Morality. Compare Hitler Ate Sugar, an equally flawed argument that any given action is bad because the person doing that action is a bad guy. A subset of Moral Myopia as well as Informed Attribute.
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Tautological Templar / int_10bc0a19	comment	In Night Watch, Vimes acknowledges that how he justifies bending the rules is that it's him doing it — and that this isn't a good reason, because people like Carcer use the same reasoning. Vimes, at least, watches himself very carefully to make sure he doesn't truly cross the line.
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Tautological Templar / int_129b484d	comment	The Reapers in Diablo III, a renegade faction of angels led by Malthael, the Angel of Death. They believe that angels are inherently good, demons are inherently evil, and humans (who are half-breeds of the other two races) have free will to choose between the two, a choice they are not worthy of making. Therefore, when the Reapers decide to commit genocide against humans, it must be a course of action that will ultimately benefit the universe.
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Tautological Templar / int_12ffd3e9	comment	Coop from Megas XLR just assumes he's always the good guy, regardless of what he actually does. This isn't out of arrogance or insanity though, mostly he's just too dumb to realize what the consequences of his actions are. The Season 2 finale shows the logical extreme of this attitude, where an alternate universe Coop has become a vicious galactic dictator because he beat all the "bad guys" and eventually went after others for doing things of ever-decreasing severity until he finally just decided to be evil. Regular Coop actually seems to learn from this, and Season 3 would have showed some character development had it not been cancelled.
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Tautological Templar / int_1367cea0	comment	Worm discusses this quite a bit. The protagonist is a "villain" but is a much better person than many of the self-professed heroes, who range from narcissistic jerks to one of the very bullies who made her life miserable, unlocking her powers in the first place. Meanwhile, other "villains" fell into their situations by happenstance or just generally being victims of someone else, or were offered a job by another villain, and many are agreeable, polite, and kind in their own ways.
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Tautological Templar / int_13b20f1b	comment	Hero King Quest: Peacemaker Prologue: The doctrine of the Light Spirit preaches that all problems the human nations suffer can be traced to the Dark Ones and that humans are justified in committing atrocities against them. The rank-and-file Cerulean knights truly believe themselves to be heroes fighting against Always Chaotic Evil Dark Ones, though it's implied the king only preaches these ideals to maintain his own power.
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Tautological Templar / int_17293dfa	comment	Angie Yonaga, the Ultimate Artist, in Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony. She is a very religious upbeat girl, who believes her actions are being guided by her god, Atua. Tenko will mention that, because she genuinely believes that Atua is guiding her every move, she doesn't reconsider or feel regret for her own actions, because if Atua is guiding her, then it must be the right thing to do. This comes to a head when she creates the student council, which is basically a cult, insisting that the council will end the killing game; the members of the council are tasked with enforcing a set of rules she made up, with the council members themselves being exempt from those rules (the logic being that they can apparently be trusted to not kill anyone, by virtue of being Angie's followersnote This becomes even more disturbing when one considers that Tsumugi was one of the council members...). In practice, this means that Angie and her cult feel justified in harassing, bullying, and making decisions for other students because Angie has convinced the council that this is both Atua's will and necessary for the greater good.
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Tautological Templar / int_1aacbbc9	comment	Dragon Age: The Templars will execute anyone who is a mage but not a member of the Circle of Magi because there is a chance that they may know forbidden magic. However, they are revered as heroes since they are the militant wing of the setting's dominant religion. Knight-Commander Meredith of Dragon Age II gets worse as the game progresses partially due to the influence of her red lyrium sword, but believes she is always in the right because she is keeping people safe from blood mages and demons. By Act III, she's decided that anyone who disagrees with her at all is a mind-controlled blood mage puppet. Every decent Templar still alive has realized what she is, but they're all too afraid of her to speak out. Thrask tries to form a mage-templar alliance to depose her, but picks exactly the wrong person to be his right hand. When Meredith goes completely off the deep end, the entire Templar Order (except Cullen, and possibly Carver) runs out of sight and lets Hawke's group do all the work.
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Tautological Templar / int_1ad1e0d2	comment	In the Imperial Radch series, Lord Anaander Mianaai is the absolute ruler of the Radch and is generally believed to personify the Radchaai values of Justice, Propriety, and Benefit; so Mianaai quite sincerely believes that all of her actions are, by definition, for the good of the Radch. Those actions include massacring entire planets, summarily executing citizens for minor inconveniences, and using the entire Radch as pawns in a covert civil war between two factions of her thousands of cloned bodies. Notably, this latter situation arose from a disagreement over the above: Anaander Mianaai — or, rather, a part of her — was unable to reconcile the destruction of Garsedaai with the values of Justice, Propriety and Benefit. This internal disagreement (with the part of her that could) eventually matured into a shadow war against herself, and eventually a full-blown civil war. The faction that couldn't manage to reconcile those two ideas is marginally less tautological as a result.
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Tautological Templar / int_1af341a1	comment	Since the demons in Disgaea insist they're evil no matter how much good they do, multiple villains have served as their foil by insisting in their goodness no matter how much evil they do. Aurum in the third game is a particularly spectacular example: having killed the last and most powerful demon overlord, he's spent two hundred years molding a young demon into the "perfect overlord" for him to fight and defeat. He thinks he has to do this because, without villains, heroes are no longer relevant. Not until the very end does he realize that, since he's trying to create a threat to humanity, he's now a villain.
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Tautological Templar / int_1cc09117	comment	Bleach: Tousen is revealed to be this, though not too surprising as he'd turned out to be The Mole and had long appeared to be a Knight Templar anyway. It was known that he became obsessed with justice when a friend of his was murdered by her Shinigami husband who managed to get away with the crime; it transpires that the reason he turned against Soul Society was for revenge (he has previously implied it was because Utopia Justifies the Means, though this was still somewhat true), believing that forgiveness of any sort was a mockery of justice and feeling he was completely entitled to take revenge on Soul Society and all of its inhabitants, even if that means helping the Big Bad become a god and not really worrying about the countless innocent lives he was killing or planning to kill along the way. Mask de Masculine's defining trait is that he is quick to label anyone who stands against him and his comrades as a villain, fiercely loyal to the Quincy cause. In his eyes, he is a hero and a champion, and because he believes he's a hero, he also thinks he is undefeatable by anyone he calls a villain. That he himself could be a bad guy is so beyond his comprehension that he is killed off before coming even close to the realization.
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Tautological Templar / int_1eb6c857	comment	This is Megatron's entire schtick in Transformers: Fall of Cybertron. Despite the fact he's forced Cybertron to go into a coma-like state that's resulted in the loss of the entire planet's supply of Energon, effectively killing his own world, forced millions of Cybertronians to evacuate for the millions of years it will take for Cybertron to recover, and murdered countless millions more in the war that he started, he's still absolutely convinced that he's the hero and the savior of Cybertron. Throughout the game, he can be heard ranting and raving about he will save Cybertron and how Optimus' resistance to his tyranny is the true evil.
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Tautological Templar / int_21795cc3	comment	Lex Luthor sometimes has this attitude with Superman -and to a lesser extent Supergirl- especially evident in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. He justifies his crusade to bring down the hero by proclaiming that Superman, as a godlike alien, is a menace to humanity who impedes our progress by dint of his existence, and more crudely that Luthor is capable of solving all the Earth's problems but he can't until Superman is dead, and to be more specific dead at his hands. Doesn't seem to have any problem teaming up with other aliens like Brainiac or even Darkseid, even if those aliens really are out to enslave us all and make no secret of the fact. His supposed belief in the potential and value of humanity also doesn't seem to stop him from planning atrocities which, in attempting to destroy or 'expose' Superman, usually ratchet up a pretty hefty body count in human lives in the process. Lampshaded in one comic arc in which Superman disappeared for a year (he'd been temporarily depowered due to the last Crisis Crossover), meaning that Luthor actually did have a year without Superman wherein he could focus on solving all of Earth's problems. What did Luthor do? He spent the year coming up with schemes against other heroes / the general public because he felt he'd been disrespected by them and they needed to be punished / put in their place. Once he'd been brought back to full strength and Luthor, of course, targeted him again, Superman made a point of asking him where that cancer cure Luthor was always boasting he'd have come up with by now if he wasn't constantly having to save the world from Superman was.
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Tautological Templar / int_25bfbf9e	comment	My Brave Pony: Starfleet Magic: The Space Ponies believe themselves to be Always Lawful Good, which means they're fine with flaunting their superiority, imposing their beliefs, and condemning other species as Always Chaotic Evil because they think they're always in the right. Becomes particularly notable when they cart Ace Ray off to an asylum to be locked up indefinitely in III, and when the figures in IV reveal that they've been psychologically torturing Cadance and causing potentially lethal mishaps for half the story; no one gets called out on either of these, because they're Space Ponies and Space Ponies are always right.
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Tautological Templar / int_267cbfa	comment	Siegfried in Dominic Deegan, "Oracle for Hire", starts as one of these. Not just him, either. This seems to be the modus operandi for all of the Knights of Callan. They were all duped into damning themselves by an insane President Evil.
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Tautological Templar / int_27c708b3	comment	In Rosario + Vampire, Gin gives a perfect definition of this trope in relation to Kuyou: "Kuyou is the kind of guy who mistakenly believes that, without a doubt, everything he does is for the sake of justice. Anyone who goes against him is going against justice and is an evildoer, and he believes that he can do anything for his own sake because he is justice."
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Tautological Templar / int_280a7192	comment	Norman Osborn fell into this territory in Dark Reign, insisting that all of his actions were for the greater good and the heroes shouldn't be uniting against him and have no idea how much he has been doing to protect everyone. The fact that he started it by trying to kill all the heroes in the first place, that he tried to murder his own son for ratings, that he's been killing or locking up everyone who has a bad thing to say about him, that his own superhero teams comprised of supervillains he was allowing (and often ordering) to commit all sorts of murders and atrocities, and that the crisis in question he was referring to (The Sentry turning back into The Void) was all his fault in the first place, or the fact that his own Superpowered Evil Side was slowly taking over and he was starting to lose his mind and covering up the fact... Yeah, none of that really mattered.
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Tautological Templar / int_2d316ba2	comment	In Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003), Leo has a brief Knight Templar phase in the fourth season after suffering a crushing defeat to Shredder and Karai the previous season. He's constantly angry and sullen, uncharacteristically violent, and becomes obsessed with training himself and his brothers to perfection so that they never risk defeat again. When several characters try to call him out on his behaviour, Leo insists he's only acting to protect himself and his family. He only finally acknowledges the problem when he wounds Splinter in a fit of rage during a sparring match.
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Tautological Templar / int_2ea6ae26	comment	Star Trek: Picard: Vadic believes that the attempted genocide of the Founders by Section 31 is proof that the Dominion was right to strike first and start the war.
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Tautological Templar / int_2efd38a0	comment	In My Adventures with Superman, Iron Lady Amanda Waller is a firm believer in My Country, Right or Wrong, and thinks that since the government is good by extension everything they do is also good which her lackey Deathstroke happily goes along with if it means he gets to kill people. When General Ripper Sam Lane points out the flaws in her logic she refuses to entertain the idea that she might be wrong and has him demoted.
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Tautological Templar / int_2f203125	comment	Shin Megami Tensei: The Law faction invariably has a few of these. YHVH, in His worst moments, dives straight into this. In many games, YHVH feels that he has the right to do whatever he pleases to Earth by virtue of having created it.
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Tautological Templar / int_3038d769	comment	In Diablo IV, the angel Inarius murders his son Rathma in a fit of rage. Reverend Mother Prava, leader of the Cathedral of Light which worships Inarius, insists Inarius did not murder anyone because murder is a sin and Inarius is opposed to all sin.
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Tautological Templar / int_31a8701b	comment	The Flash: Zoom (Hunter Zolomon) thinks he's performing a vital service by putting heroes through utter hell under the belief that Misery Builds Character and will make them "stronger" heroes. Unfortunately, however, his beliefs absolutely do not match up with reality, he is profoundly disturbed, and his moral code is completely incomprehensible to others. Furthermore, he's probably up there with the Joker in terms of how dangerous he is to his own allies as he is to heroes, as he will brutally attack anyone who he thinks is impeding his progress with "improving" his current target.
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Tautological Templar / int_331e009	comment	Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2. In his own mind, he's the hero of the story, doing whatever it takes to bring about a better future for Pandora. Therefore any action he takes, no matter how horrific, is just and righteous. His Virtual Ghost in Tales from the Borderlands seemingly undergoes a Heel Realization in the final episode after his conflict with Rhys destroys Helios, in addition to accessing the Hyperion databanks and reading that his daughter was voluntarily killed by the vault hunters in the second game just so she could escape the life of confinement and eridium dependency that Jack had pushed her into (which happened after his creation so he had no personal memory of it until reading about it) — he quietly contemplates what's led him to this point and solemnly tells Rhys that "everyone is the hero of their own story." Unfortunately, he's still so hellbent on killing Rhys that he plugs himself back into his temple port and he takes control of Rhys' cybernetic arm in an attempt to make Rhys strangle himself to death, thereby killing the both of them.
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Tautological Templar / int_334f9ddc	comment	Injustice: Gods Among Us has an alternate universe's Superman take up this madness after one particular event sends him over the Moral Event Horizon. He then decides that because he is the Man of Steel, whatever he does in service to "saving" his world is justifiable because he says so, even coldblooded murder of other heroes who might call him out on this.
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Tautological Templar / int_341a1fd2	comment	Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated: The villains in "The Siren's Song" are a group of environmental activists who planned to get rich using an abandoned oil platform which had been shut down when it was proven to be dangerous to the environment. The activists justify their actions with the logic that this was a small price to pay in order to get money to save the environment.
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Tautological Templar / int_35e05f2a	comment	RWBY: General Ironwood devolves into this as the series goes on, firmly convinced that only he knows what the greater good is, that everything he does is justified as long as it combats Salem, and readily turning on longtime friends and potential allies the instant they don't agree with him. Even when Winter tells him point-blank that his methods haven't helped anyone or done a thing to impede Salem, Ironwood is adamant that everything he did was for the good of Remnant and accuses everyone else of being ungrateful for his efforts. Hazel believes Ozpin is evil because he is encouraging people to fight Salem when he knows she's unkillable, and that his Huntsman Academies are just getting children like his sister killed for a cause that has no victory. Every time he takes a life, and attacks or tortures children, he blames Ozpin for it; Ozpin only reinforces this problem by agreeing that he deserves to be tortured. Only after Oscar convinces him that Ozpin is telling the truth about Salem planning to destroy the world does he decide to turn on Salem; even then, he still justifies his past behaviour by telling Oscar to ensure "no more Gretchens" ever happen.
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Tautological Templar / int_375e8f14	comment	Vetinari nails it in The Last Hero when he concludes that Cohen the Barbarian is supposedly "heroic" when he commits theft or arson because it's Cohen the Barbarian doing it.
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Tautological Templar / int_3953baf0	comment	The Hunchback of Notre Dame: As far as he's concerned, Judge Frollo is Holier Than Thou, so anything he does is justified by default, even if it's immoral. He cares more about his own salvation and purity than those of others, as he thinks they are beneath him. Ironically, it means he's not the pious Christian he thinks he is and repeated attention is drawn to his hypocrisy, including but not limited to flagrantly ignoring the Church's authority, tossing the Archdeacon down a flight of stairs, and directly attacking Notre Dame. Due to his bloated ego, he doesn't realize that he's a loon who irrationally blames others for his issues and ignores the Bible's true message on pride being the worst of the Seven Deadly Sins, leading to his eternal damnation in Hell. Even in his own Villain Song, the Latin choir tells him to have some repentance at the exact same time he blames God himself for his own lust and threatens to torch Paris if Esmeralda won't surrender herself to him.
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Tautological Templar / int_39bd654e	comment	In The Redemption of Althalus, at one point a priest is burning local girls for witchcraft since they use it to put shameful and lusty thoughts and urges in his head. He's convinced that they must be using wicked magic for this since he's too pure to experience those things — the idea that he's just having the normal male reaction to pretty girls doesn't even occur to him. It's rather frightening when you realize how long he's been doing it without anyone stopping him. It's even more frightening when you realize that after the heroes have rescued his latest victim (because they needed her for their group) and she gives him a "The Reason You Suck" Speech, they leave without stopping him permanently.
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Tautological Templar / int_3defe34c	comment	Discussed in the first book of The Sword of Truth, in which the villain is described as having this mindset. (Unfortunately, in some of the later books, the author eventually starts using the same kinds of logic to justify the actions of the protagonists.)
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Tautological Templar / int_3f61e14f	comment	ElvenQuest: The White Wizard, the most powerful embodiment of good in Lower Earth. Since he is the embodiment of good, he reasons that everything he does and approves of must be good itself, and that disagreeing with him makes someone evil, however mild that disagreement.
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Tautological Templar / int_3fbd173e	comment	Freefall: When asked what's the difference between his and Florence's viewpoints, Blunt answers that he's right.
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Tautological Templar / int_402568f2	comment	John Horus of Black Summer is accused of being this by his former teammates, that despite all his power he decided the only way to save the day was killing the president and probably thinks only the bad guys are the ones who are against him. Tom Noir explcitly calls him out on this during their final confrontation, calling him a "simple assclown" for thinking this way during his "The Reason You Suck" Speech.
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Tautological Templar / int_40e44a7a	comment	Judge Dredd: Although an effective officer in curbing crime and doling out proper justice, Judge Joseph Dredd is an ardent dogmatist of The Law of the Megacities, claiming it is the only thing that matters to a Street Judge (even presenting it with a subtext as if it was a Bible), even though it does not recognize extenuating circumstances or evidence, leading to false arrests. However, Dredd gets a metaphorical slap-in-the-face about this when the very supposedly airtight system he sought to defend and praise has him arrested for the presumed murder of a news critic and his wife since the DNA imprint on the weapon matched his. (It was actually Dredd's brother, Rico, who fired the weapon.) Herman "Fergie" Ferguson, a harmless repeat offender that Dredd arrested earlier in the filmnote for hacking a public service droid and hiding in its casing to protect himself during a gang shootout, temporarily wakes him up to the problems inherent in The Law, as they travel to the prison:
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Tautological Templar / int_42bb8b78	comment	Trevor Goodchild honestly believes that he can transform Ink City into a better place — a New Bregna — if he can just eliminate The Evils of Free Will. He is so convinced that his cause is just that when Wakko Warner and Don crash in and find him about to do horrible things to their brothers, he actually tries to convince them it's for the best. Needless to say, neither one buys it.
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Tautological Templar / int_43576f5	comment	Supernatural: Castiel professes this attitude regarding his actions early in season four. He's following Heaven's orders, and because the orders are from Heaven, they are just, even if they include possibly nuking a town and annihilating every person living there. He later admits, however, that he has doubts and doesn't know what's right and wrong. In season 6, the Archangel Raphael takes over the Host of Heaven and immediately starts planning to restart the Apocalypse by freeing his brothers Michael and Lucifer from the Cage. When Castiel demands to know how that could possibly be what God wanted, Raphael just asserts that it is because it's what he wants. Lucifer accuses God of being a Tautological Templar, in those exact terms: "Everything is a tautology with you. Everything is 'Because I said so,' or 'Because it had to be done.'" In trying to be fair to Lucifer and see if he has a good point, the main thing to remember is that Lucifer remembers God from many millennia in the past, and is meeting him for the first time in thousands of years. Lucifer's criticism is probably valid about the way God was at that time; but in modern times, the God we see today has learned to have a more mature attitude towards his creations than the old angry deity that he used to be. Also, Michael says that Lucifer is full of shit, and is just trying to justify his own actions. Sadly, Lucifer was right. Both Lucifer and God are bastards who only truly care about themselves (and for that matter, so is Michael).
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Tautological Templar / int_439a65b3	comment	Doubt: So what if Sister Aloysius has no evidence that Father Flynn is a child molester? She has her certainty and that's all she needs.
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Tautological Templar / int_442f6a6e	comment	Rhythm of War: Adolin is warned that the honorspren have started to slip into this. As spirits of honor, they must by definition behave honorably... but with the god Honor dead, there is no longer anyone to provide a single objective definition of what honor is, and so some among the honorspren have started to simply define "acting honorably" as "acting like an honorspren" and doing whatever they want.
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Tautological Templar / int_468bebb0	comment	Discworld: Lady Lilith in Witches Abroad. She runs a police state and feeds people to stories to increase her personal power. But her understanding of her own story is that she's the fairy godmother, and Granny Weatherwax is the wicked witch, and therefore everything she does is okay. This is discussed a number of other times in the Discworld series, mostly by Vimes but also by Granny Weatherwax and the wizards. Some character will suggest an action and justify it "because we're the good guys", only to have it pointed out that being the good guys depends on not doing certain things. Vetinari nails it in The Last Hero when he concludes that Cohen the Barbarian is supposedly "heroic" when he commits theft or arson because it's Cohen the Barbarian doing it. The cunning argument for why the Unseen University's Department of Post-Mortem Communications is absolutely not necromancy is that only bad wizards do necromancy. One of the determining features of whether a wizard is bad or not is... whether they do necromancy. Because they're not bad wizards, what they're doing cannot be necromancy. Inverted by Lord Vetinari. To him, everyone is evil (or at least bad), it's just that some people are less evil than others. He also deliberately sets up Ankh-Morporkian society to be a series of counterbalancing forces, to prevent anyone (including himself to a certain degree) to go power-mad without someone to oppose them. In Night Watch, Vimes acknowledges that how he justifies bending the rules is that it's him doing it — and that this isn't a good reason, because people like Carcer use the same reasoning. Vimes, at least, watches himself very carefully to make sure he doesn't truly cross the line. The Quisition in Small Gods runs on this. If the Quisition suspects you, then you must therefore be totally guilty, because the Great God Om would not have placed suspicion in their minds otherwise. Deacon Vorbis wholeheartedly believes that every atrocity he commits is by the will of Om and that even when he deceives he never lies — instead he is acting in service to a "greater truth". It's revealed in the end that he had honestly believed he was a prophet his whole life when it really was just his own thoughts; the realization breaks him.
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Tautological Templar / int_474c18c1	comment	Comstock of BioShock Infinite has a very... interesting interpretation of divine forgiveness. After being baptized in order to wash away the sins he committed as Booker DeWitt, he was told to Go and Sin No More. Instead of the intended meaning of "don't commit any more sins", he instead interpreted this as "you are now incapable of sin", and thus went on to commit even more horrific acts believing that since he was able to do them, they must therefore not be sinful.
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Tautological Templar / int_49a88442	comment	Final Fantasy XIV: Vauthry, one of the Big Bads of Shadowbringers, is the ruler of Eulmore. A Fat Bastard Psychopathic Manchild with an ego as big as his waistline, Vauthry believes he's the undisputed master of all he surveys because of his ability to control the sin eaters that are ravaging the rest of Norvrandt... Until it's eventually revealed that he's part sin eater himself, having been infused with one's light by Emet-Selch while in his mother's womb, and was groomed from birth by his father to be the conqueror he is by the time the Warrior of Light meets him. As a result, he's completely incapable of understanding the difference between "right" and "wrong"; In Vauthry's mind, he is justice and righteousness, and it's everyone who disagrees him that's evil. Because nobody taught him otherwise. Even when he's finally defeated, his final moments are spent crying and whimpering, unable to comprehend why these "villains" oppose him, why his "goodness" can't thwart them, or where he went wrong in any capacity. It's why his true form is called Innocence: because he believes himself to be truly innocent of any sin, and indeed the fact his upbringing groomed him to be this way makes a very good case for why he may well be.
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Tautological Templar / int_4d910120	comment	The Assassins can also fall under this, believing that killing a Templar is justified no matter what. This is what caused Shay to join the Templars in Assassin's Creed Rogue. Of course, considering that the Templars seek to remove free will from everyone else in the world, it's understandable why the Assassins fell into the mindset as well.
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Tautological Templar / int_4d9653ef	comment	This was the hat of the Mercy Killers in Planescape. They believed that the guilty must be punished for their crimes, and they would use any means necessary to do so. And considered any crimes they committed along the way to be completely justified.
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Tautological Templar / int_526d4c5c	comment	In Knights of the Old Republic, Jolee Bindo argues that the Jedi believe that since they follow the Light Side of the Force, that they can do no wrong. In the sequel, Atris unknowingly falls to the Dark Side because of the extreme methods she used to lure out the Sith.
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Tautological Templar / int_5755b96a	comment	The Order of the Stick: Paladin Miko Miyazaki ends up being one of these, though at first, this impression appears to have been wrought from circumstance. Time and again, she is portrayed as believing Violence Really Is the Answer in regards to even minor crimes, shows hypocrisy about lawfulness in battle and must be given multiple commands by her legitimate lord, Shojo, to even consider taking a less extreme course of action. This finally reaches its head when she kills Lord Shojo, believing him to be the head of some nefarious anti-good conspiracy. Even when stripped of her paladin powers by good-aligned Gods, she still refuses to believe she's crossed the line, instead concluding that she's facing an even more elaborate conspiracy and the stripping of her powers is some sort of trial. Arc Villain General Tarquin is an inversion; instead of believing he can only be good, he refuses to accept that he could be anything less than the villain, the Big Bad, and that the Story is all about him and his heroic son, Elan. That Elan refuses to go along with this narrative and insists on deferring to party leader Roy and acting as if there are other things much more important than defeating Tarquin, drives him to rage. It eventually culminates in Elan just completely abandoning Tarquin, rather than engaging him in some form of final battle like Tarquin wanted.
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Tautological Templar / int_5c07d6ab	comment	Saints Row: The Third has STAG, a government agency that tracks down and destroys gangs which pose a danger to the public. Senator Monica Hughes calls them in to Steelport when the Mob War between the Saints and The Syndicate has got out of hand. STAG's commander, Cyrus Temple, openly states that they're willing to do anything to get rid of the Saints, but somewhat jarringly, despite the countless people they've killed, he only cites the murder of Jessica Parish from Saints Row 2 as an example- never mind the fact that Jessica was a Rich Bitch who was complicit in the brutal torture and murder of the Boss' friend Carlos. Additionally, despite his claims, Temple's soldiers end up causing more damage to Steelport than the gangs they're supposed to be fighting, placing the city under martial law, and bringing out a gigantic aircraft carrier called the Daedalus and strafing the streets with it to get at the Saints. Additionally, Temple's second-in-command Kia goes behind his back in kidnapping Shaundi, Viola and Mayor Burt Reynolds without trial, and tying them up on a national monument loaded with explosive weaponry, so she can blow it up and frame the Saints for it, giving STAG a reason to destroy Steelport. If the Boss decides to foil Kia's plans, the public hails them as heroes, and STAG is publicly shamed for their actions. Refusing to believe that he did anything wrong, Temple defects from the US military, and by the time of the next game, he's joined a bunch of Middle Eastern Terrorists and fired a nuke towards Washington DC, to spite the government for treating the Saints like heroes when they "ruined America" in his eyes. Temple doesn't seem to get that nuking Washington DC will end up ruining America more than anything the Saints have ever done. Because of that, no tears will be shed when the Boss kills him and leaves to defuse his nuke, foiling his plans.
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Tautological Templar / int_5c51d44d	comment	Fade: L. His logic for using the Death Note and becoming as bad as Kira in the story that came with it amounts to this. In his mind, he is Justice, and thus, if he were to die, there would be no more Justice in the world. Hence, every life he takes to subvert fate and save his own, be it that of a criminal or an innocent, is for Justice.
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Tautological Templar / int_5c52ccb7	comment	Dumbledore is this in Heir. As far as Dumbledore is concerned, he's good and therefore all his actions are good by default (actions such as leaving an innocent child with his abusive relatives). In his world-view, all the "light families" are inherently good and all "dark families" are the cause of all problems, and if a member of a "dark family" happens to be a victim well they must have deserved it.
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Tautological Templar / int_5c55c358	comment	Null: In-Universe, Jaune/Null is infuriated that Team RWBY can basically get away with anything they want (up to and including unlawful killing) and be hailed by the media and public as heroes, whilst Jaune is constantly screwed over and is loathed by the world as a rampant serial killer whilst taking the same measures. Team RWBY themselves, despite having very little if any love for Jaune, are outraged themselves at the injustice of it after they've gotten a brutal understanding of Jaune's point of view.
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Tautological Templar / int_5ce2f08b	comment	The angel Ashe/Angela from the anime adaptation of Black Butler. S/he declares everyone impure and that they must be Cleansed With Fire, but doesn't see anything wrong with murdering children and banging demons and Devil Dogs.
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Tautological Templar / int_5e150650	comment	Exalted has the Immaculate Order, a religion which says that enlightenment leads to a better reincarnation, ultimately resulting in being reincarnated as a Dragon-Blooded; therefore, anything the Dragon-Blooded do is for your own good and it is right and proper that the Dragon-Blooded rule over you as cruel overlords, enslave you, beat you, burn down your house for kicks, etc. Also, the "Anathema" (actually celestial exalted, and they have a mandate straight from heaven saying that they should rule) are all utterly selfish and evil, so anything they do is part of an evil plan, even curing horrible diseases and saving small children. Yeah. To be perfectly accurate, the Immaculate Philosophy teaches that it is possible for a Dragon-Blooded to do things that are morally wrong, and which they will need to atone for in their next life. However, even when a Dragon-Blooded is being undeniably wicked, it is still wrong for mortals to disobey or oppose them in any way, since it is not their place to judge the actions of their betters.
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Tautological Templar / int_5e91c7f	comment	Resident Evil 6: Derek C. Simmons honestly seems to believe that everything he does, no matter how evil or crazy, is for the sake of preserving global stability. In trying to preserve said stability, he infects Tall Oaks with the C-Virus, zombifying President Benford in the process and forcing Leon to put him down, and then nukes it to cover his tracks, believing that Benford revealing the truth behind the Raccoon City incident would destroy that stability. Leon and Helena justifiably call him out on it, pointing out he caused an actual disaster to prevent a possible one.
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Tautological Templar / int_6cdec540	comment	Chief Justice Tyrest is clearly this during the events of Transformers: More than Meets the Eye, declaring their actions perfectly valid, legal, and the right thing to do, guided by their beliefs but self-justified using their role in the justice system. Let's quickly point out that this is the same individual who believes indiscriminate genocide will somehow absolve him of his guilty conscience, and actually carries out that plan.
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Tautological Templar / int_6d9a0c36	comment	The First Law: Black Dow, a Card-Carrying Villain, accuses Barbarian Hero Logen Ninefingers, the "Bloody Nine", of being this, and says it makes him even worse than him because Logen is capable of absolutely anything while Dow can show that Even Evil Has Standards, such as when Logen slaughters a couple of kids and his own allies in the middle of a siege after the enemy breaks through, and thinks nobody noticed. Subverted though, since in fact Logen is just a Jerk with a Heart of Gold who happens to have a Superpowered Evil Side that is the real source of his wicked reputation and (most of) his evil deeds, including the above, and he just doesn't want anyone to know that both out of fear that his allies would turn on him because he's too dangerous, and conversely because even his allies are nearly all former enemies and he worries that, even though he is a formidable warrior in his own right, they might turn on him because he's not as dangerous as they all thought he was. Played utterly straight with Bayaz, however, who justifies centuries of Chronic Backstabbing Disorder and callous manipluation as being for the betterment of mankind, in spite of his paradoxical utter contempt for humanity in the first place. He seems to see himself as a Dark Messiah, though a lot of his actions seem to be entirely selfish, and though he can accurately claim that he is protecting the world from a Knight Templar Evil Sorceror and his Corrupt Church of cannibalistic ninja wizard clerics, he neglects to mention that it really all started as a private blood feud between two powerful mages and that he is actually guilty of everything the other guy accuses him of and more, including all of the Black Magic that supposedly makes the latter the bad guy. By the end of the story, you'll be wondering who the real villain was. "I am First of the Magi. I am the last authority and I say... I am righteous. Power makes all things right. That is my first law, and my last. That is the only law that I acknowledge."
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Tautological Templar / int_72262aee	comment	Avatar: The Last Airbender: As shown in The Promise, Fire Lord Ozai firmly believes that whatever the Fire Lord does is right by definition, so he has absolutely no compunctions about his war crimes or horrible parenting. When Zuko is conflicted about his actions after taking up the throne, Ozai berates him for not thinking like a proper Fire Lord.
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Tautological Templar / int_7244e221	comment	In The Traitor Son Cycle, the Archbishop of Alba justifies making use of a hermeticist (something he otherwise condemns and being of the Devil) by stating that because he's an agent of God, everything he does must be for God's cause.
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Tautological Templar / int_7668653a	comment	Samara in Mass Effect 2. Her philosophy as a Justicar is that so long as she follows her Code, all of her actions are just, even when that action happens to be killing a helpless enemy simply for refusing to give her information or potentially killing a police officer for being ordered to take Samara into custody. Unusually, she recognizes that this is a problem in a galaxy of Grey-and-Gray Morality and her code even has some deliberate loopholes for situations when "kill the hell out of everything in my way" would not be a good idea. Note that Samara is not the only Justicar. It's an entire order of asari following this Code, and asari law enforcement officers on planets with multiple species living there dread the thought of a Justicar arriving on their world, as while asari will understand not to poke the Justicar, other species don't have a proper understanding of the sheer starkness of the Justicar Code and the officers will end up having to arrest the Justicar. Justicars do not go quietly when this happens. However, Samara does note that by the time a Justicar is involved, the time for discussion has long since passed.
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Tautological Templar / int_7785278d	comment	BioShock BioShock 2: Sofia Lamb just wants to push mankind into its next evolutionary stage. It's for the Greater Good, and nothing could be more evil than trying to stop this noble goal. Ask yourself: are Rapture, human consciousness, individuality itself, and Eleanor's mind really such high prices to pay for paradise? Comstock of BioShock Infinite has a very... interesting interpretation of divine forgiveness. After being baptized in order to wash away the sins he committed as Booker DeWitt, he was told to Go and Sin No More. Instead of the intended meaning of "don't commit any more sins", he instead interpreted this as "you are now incapable of sin", and thus went on to commit even more horrific acts believing that since he was able to do them, they must therefore not be sinful.
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Tautological Templar / int_77bda8e9	comment	Lady Lilith in Witches Abroad. She runs a police state and feeds people to stories to increase her personal power. But her understanding of her own story is that she's the fairy godmother, and Granny Weatherwax is the wicked witch, and therefore everything she does is okay.
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Tautological Templar / int_77da3630	comment	Beast: The Primordial has, appropriately enough, Heroes. Heroes are tied into the monomyth that creates Beasts, and arise when a Beast's hungering Horror is so rampant that it causes a psychic disturbance over a large area. Heroes aren't called, they're traumatized... and most of the time, it shows, as Heroes have a tendency to ignore little things like "public image" or "collateral damage" in the name of killing Beasts. It's explained that Beasts and Heroes once served as counterbalances meant to enlighten humanity, with the Beasts serving as the fear of the unknown, and the Heroes going into their lairs to slay them and bring back knowledge that would help humanity as a result. Unfortunately, the monomyth tilted to the point that many Heroes could only focus on the "kill the Beast" bit.
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Tautological Templar / int_7832b74c	comment	Steven Universe: White Diamond's entire worldview turns out to be based around the idea that she is a perfect and flawless being, which means that she knows best and justifies her enforcement of a caste system that ultimately just makes everyone miserable, and even her taking control of other Gems to remove what she sees as their flaws. It's only when she realizes that she isn't perfect that Steven is able to reason with her.
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Tautological Templar / int_792239e5	comment	The Pope from Tales of Symphonia believes that all half elves deserve to be executed or be slaves because he's The Pope, he never gives any further explanation than he's the Pope; he doesn't even care that The Chosen, a centerpoint of the religion, disagrees because HE'S RIGHT. Essentially, he bases his racism entirely on being The Pope. His DAUGHTER is a half-elf, and that didn't stop him from putting her in a chamber because that's just how things are! His daughter IS the reason he hates half-elves. He started out on the half-elves' side until his daughter was born, and after she grew up, then stopped aging, he "realized" how different half-elves really were from humans, and it terrified him. Xenophobia at its worst.
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Tautological Templar / int_7950b30f	comment	The Colbert Report: Stephen Colbert is this trope Played for Laughs. "Great X or the Greatest X?"
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Tautological Templar / int_7aaf9e41	comment	Batman, Depending on the Writer. The man has pulled off some truly serious Nineteen Eighty-Four-esque moves (i.e. Brother Eye) in his attempts at keeping crime under control, he is a complete Control Freak that needs to have a plan to take care of any obstacles (even if the "obstacle" is a trusted friend that would get immensely hurt from finding out that he did this, psychologically when not physically) and when it comes to Thou Shalt Not Kill he is completely unwilling to budge and has come to blows with people that he considers allies and even family because the mere thought of applying it (even if they make a point of deciding it will be applied if there is absolutely no other choice, i.e. any time The Joker is involved) is completely inexcusable (beating criminals to the point that, realistically, some would be dead and causing massive collateral damage (that, again, may have killed people) with his antics seems perfectly okay, though). Booster Gold once put it best:
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Tautological Templar / int_7d5f8592	comment	Paranatural gives us Isaac's spirit, some kind of weather elemental with an interesting definition of moral righteousness.
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Tautological Templar / int_7f2f5e71	comment	In The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2016), Link's Acquired Situational Narcissism reaches its peak when he concludes that receiving the Master Sword is proof he's become an Ideal Hero and thus can do no wrong. When Midna realizes she can no longer get through to him, she disappears on him so he can learn the hard way that he's far from the hero he thinks he is, even if it nearly kills him.
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Tautological Templar / int_80759fc0	comment	Empyre: At the start of the event, Iron Man thinks of Carol Danvers that she has a particular expression which reads "I'm Carol Danvers and I'm always right." He then admits he thinks the same thing... before adding the difference is he is right. It should be noted Tony very quickly turns out to be under alien mind control making him think this way,
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Tautological Templar / int_83d41855	comment	Demona from Gargoyles wants to Kill All Humans because she blames them for enslaving and wiping out her species, specifically the eponymous clan she used to belong to, and for all the persecution she personally has suffered. All of that was entirely her fault, though it transpires that there actually are other Gargoyles in hiding around the world anyway. In truth, Demona has always hated humans, deeming them inferior and resenting how her clan was serving them (when in fact it was much more like a mutually beneficial alliance), and her poorly thought-out plan to "free" them is what got most of them killed in the first place. Her problems stem from a serious case of Moral Myopia combined with Evil Cannot Comprehend Good, and she can't (or rather, refuses to) fathom why her old clan keeps trying to defeat her.
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Tautological Templar / int_8ba4613a	comment	Death Note: Light Yagami is firmly convinced that everything he does in pursuit of his goals is justified and necessary, he himself is justice, and anyone who goes against him or his plans is evil. This contrasts him with L, who freely admits when he engages in Dirty Business. There's also Light/Kira's followers— when Misa is introduced, even Light thinks she goes too far when she kills innocent newscasters and police officers for just speaking out against Kira. That in itself is in an instance of templar tautology because Light did more or less the same thing when he killed FBI agents, but naturally it's only okay when he does it. When Misa tries to defend her actions and dares to ask "isn't that what you did?", Light sends her a withering Death Glare and seems angrier that she called him on it than the fact that she killed people. Then there's Mikami—when Mikami's mother scolds him for fighting with the bullies at school, Mikami decides she's an enemy of justice, and when his mother and the bullies all die in a car accident, he thinks that means that God is looking out for him. He takes the Kira mission even further than Light and Misa, killing reformed criminals and lazy people in the name of justice. Though when Light sees that in the news, he mentions that he might eventually have gone on to kill lazy and unproductive people himself, just not quite that soon.
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Tautological Templar / int_8d670920	comment	Lock Up: The Warden is determined to destroy Frank's life. He'll go to any means to assure this, because he seems to think that as the Warden, he's always the hero and as the prisoner, Frank is always the bad guy. This goes to the point of justifying the murder of Frank's friends as another means to provoke Frank into getting himself "the punishment he deserves".
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Tautological Templar / int_8e4e054d	comment	Anna Nishikinomiya from Shimoneta is a staunch believer in the setting's extreme moral values and anti-obscenity laws. Not only has her sexually repressed upbringing left her with a truly staggeringly high libido, she's completely ignorant of what sex even is and is incapable of distinguishing between love and lust. This leads her to repeatedly attempt to rape Tanukichi, the object of her affections, all while believing that her actions are "pure and just".
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Tautological Templar / int_8e549f61	comment	Existential Comics: Philippa Foot tries to teach a US Army general about handling ethical questions in combat. The guy is utterly convinced that any target must be a terrorist though, so this falls completely flat on him. He says smart bombs only target terrorists from a database, but when she asks whether this means they won't fire assuming they aren't there the general says no, it adds them. The hoverover text drives this home: "We are actually the most ethical army in the world, we only kill bad guys. Who are the bad guys? Our enemies. Why are they bad guys? Because they kill us, the good guys."
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Tautological Templar / int_985ad25d	comment	Dragon Ball Super: Zamasu believes that he is righteous and correct about mortals being evil and it's his duty to promote the gods' justice by wiping them out. Even if this means murdering his fellow gods. When he is called out on this by Gowasu and Vegeta, he states that they could never understand him. Zamasu freely admits that what he's doing is evil, but is firmly convinced that his actions will lead to a greater good.
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Tautological Templar / int_9c6d8396	comment	I Don't Want This Kind of Hero: Young Jeong is considered the greatest hero of the century and she knows it. Unfortunately, this means it's utterly impossible to convince her that she's wrong of anythingâ€”after all, everything she does, she does as a hero.
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Tautological Templar / int_9caa9883	comment	Knight Bewitched: At the start of his Final Boss fight, Typhus insists that he's still the savior of dragonkind and that all of his actions are justified, which means he's going to "save" his brethren from humans, whether they like it or not. Strasza points out that Typhus himself is responsible for the near extinction of dragons by igniting a pointless war with humanity, showing Typhus is either a Straw Hypocrite or is so insanely prideful that he believes his own lies. In the Enhanced Edition, he's trying to gain the favor of a divine being and considers himself a prophet for supposedly gaining knowledge of dragonkind's extinction from the latter. He refuses to accept that his master sees him as a failure, despite the evidence that his master intends to replace him with Morgoth. During the final battle, the divine being sends Lilith to aid him, and he declares that Heaven itself is on his side, implying that he worships Zamas.
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Tautological Templar / int_9d34190a	comment	The Elder Scrolls This is a trait of Meridia, a Daedric Prince whose sphere is obscured to mortals, but is associated with Life Energy, Light, and Beauty. She is considered one of "good" (or at least benevolent) Daedric Princes by most mortals, but definitely has a number of Good Is Not Nice traits. She is very much a Knight Templar toward anything undead, as well as any other entities of cruelty, darkness, rot, filth, or decay. Thus, she will stop at nothing to destroy them, even if it means causing collateral damage to innocent people or her own followers, bordering on being a Well-Intentioned Extremist. Because of this, she feels that any actions she takes is therefore good and anyone who opposes or abandons her is evil. She will thus deal with them appropriately. The Alessian Order was a rabidly anti-Elven religious sect which established a Theocracy in the 1st Era that wielded nearly as much power as the Emperor at its height. They taught that resisting the Order was equivalent to resisting the gods themselves.
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Tautological Templar / int_9e2f90f4	comment	One Piece: The majority of the World Government, at least at the highest echelons, engages in this. They believe themselves to be enforcing "Justice", and so anything they do in support of that Justice - up to and including deliberate genocide - is also just. The midpoint of the Whole Cake Island arc reveals that Big Mom is this. Her dream is "world peace". Nominally a laudable goal, Big Mom has twisted it — she believes that it is so infallibly righteous, that any actions she takes are above reproach and suggesting otherwise is "selfish". Said actions include outright genocide. This mindset was the result of falling into the care of enablers like Mother Carmel and Streusen who ignored teaching her a conventional moral code in favor of encouraging her destructive habits. As a result, Big Mom developed an It's All About Me attitude that severely skewed her view of the world.
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Tautological Templar / int_9e80a90a	comment	In Antigone, after Creon has sentenced Antigone to death, Haimon urges him to relent and learn from those who can teach, and Creon is offended by Haimon's boldness at suggesting that an adult should be counseled by a child, and Creon asserts his authority that as king and the leader of state, the city's authority is subject to the king:
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Tautological Templar / int_9f5e83a6	comment	Adam Taurus gives off shades of this in Resurgence, calling out Blake for attacking her fellow Faunus and accusing her of turning her back on her own kind completely, when not only has he himself has been trying to kill Blake all along, but he personally killed Sun, both of whom are his fellow Faunus. When Blake rightfully calls him out on this, Adam simply brushes Blake and Sun off as obstacles.
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Tautological Templar / int_a012e64c	comment	Badman portrays Batman as a Manchild, but the video with The Penguin shows that he still abides by his one rule. Unfortunately, he doesn't actually know what death is, thinking that burying a batarang into a baddie's face just knocks them out. Trying to convince him otherwise leads him to equate sleep with dying.
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Tautological Templar / int_a0ca3e34	comment	In Vice, the oft-repeated "unitary executive theory" is that anything the President (or the US) does is, by definition, legal/moral. Why? Because it's done by the President/US.
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Tautological Templar / int_a101fca7	comment	The Moon Cries in Reverse (Naruto) makes this one of the central issues with the shinobi of Konohagakure: they cling desperately to the notion that everything they do is ultimately meant for "the greater good", no matter how awful their methods. Even those who are more cognizant of the flaws in their leadership and the shinobi system, such as Jiraiya and Shikaku, do their best to gloss over their concerns and take a My Country, Right or Wrong attitude. So when Naruto, Sakura and Shikamaru decide to defect after suffering Training from Hell and horrible mistreatment at the hands of those they once trusted, Jiriaya, Shikaku and the rest convince themselves that the kids were always monsters in the making rather than facing how they were driven to defect by the abuse they suffered.
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Tautological Templar / int_a599305d	comment	In Mega Man Zero, Copy-X believes that he is a "perfect copy" of the legendary hero X, and because he's perfect, all of his decisions are perfectly correct and beyond reproach. That includes the mass institutionalized genocide of Reploids for the human populace.
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Tautological Templar / int_a9cb14fc	comment	This is the path to damnation for several darklords in Ravenloft, most notably Elena Faith-hold. She routinely slaughters entire villages, convinced that she is "cleansing evil from the world."
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Tautological Templar / int_aa0ea628	comment	Poison Ivy is often depicted as this with her "eco-terrorist" depictions, being too obsessed with either making people go Green now, too willing to sacrifice human lives in favor of the environment or both. She completely fails to realize that this only hurts her position and that she has more viable options in her arsenal thanks to her powers because she sincerely believes that she's protecting Mother Earth and is totally justified.
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Tautological Templar / int_ac76e13b	comment	Akame ga Kill! has Seryu Ubiquitous, who works for the highly corrupt empire at the heart of the story's conflict and champions justice above all else. Completely blind to her own nation's faults, the way Seryu metes out this "justice" defines Disproportionate Retribution: on one occasion, she has two petty thieves eaten by her Right-Hand Attack Dog Koro and personally dispatches the woman who was forced to help them steal when she begs Seryu for a fair trial. According to her insane worldview, any crime is considered punishable by death.
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Tautological Templar / int_b0e165a7	comment	According to Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, the last stage of the life cycle of groups: "I'm gonna form a group to do good things." "As the goodest of groups, we must make sure we do good things." "We are the good group! We!" "Things are good because we did them.
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Tautological Templar / int_b1fed9dd	comment	Contest of Champions (2015): An alternate universe version of Tony Stark appears, who went through Civil War (2006) but never got deposed by the Skrull Invasion insists he doesn't make mistakes "anymore". Turns out that he has a Reality Stone concealed in his armor, which he uses to immediately Ret-Gone any snafus he pulls off, starting with the accidental murder of Bill Foster... and including the various times that Steve Rogers has died, some of which were deaths by his own hand. Laser-Guided Karma comes upon Mr. Stark when he is yanked into Battleworld and does not remembers the Stone's Crippling Overspecialization (that it only works in its universe of origin) until after he has spilled the beans to his own Rogers and is a nanosecond away from being splattered by the Maestro.
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Tautological Templar / int_b2700e28	comment	If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device: Lord Inquisitor Karamazov is purposefully baited as an embodiment of this trope by the Emperor. He issues a decree disbanding the inquisition, knowing that the extremists such as Karamazov would disobey and retaliate. Which they do, Karamazov declaring "Heresy!" upon even the places, organizations and people that are supposed to be the very root of the faith he is supposed to be protecting. Emperor proceeds to inflate Karamazov's ego even further, to the point he believes he's the reincarnation of the Emperor himself, which would be heresy for anybody else. After being dropped into the warp, he proceeds to do things even he acknowledges as heresy, except they aren't heresy as long as it is him doing them. The second Podcast takes the page quote and runs with it, to the point that the Emperor gets called out on it by his Custodes. And then Daemon Uriah shows up and really lets him have it. Series proper get a punch along that line to Emperor himself as well. When The Star Child, a lost soul fragment of the Emperor is about to possess aforementioned Karamazov, he notes that the inquisitor's mind feels just the same as the Emperor's.
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Tautological Templar / int_b27fdd6d	comment	Catch-22 has Sgt. Milo Minderbinder, who believes capitalism is the ultimate expression of good, and as such will do anything up to and including getting his own squadmates killed to promulgate it. It's Blue-and-Orange Morality enough (as far as we know, he's completely honest in this belief) that it's still possible to like him somewhat, unlike other antagonists such as serial rapist Captain Aardvark.
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Tautological Templar / int_b373a206	comment	In Green Lantern, the Guardians of the Universe fall into this behavior on their worst days. It became worse and worse over Geoff Johns' run on the series until it came to a head in Rise of the Third Army, wherein they decide that the problems of the universe are caused by emotion itself, and thus Emotion Suppression and removal of The Evils of Free Will will remove the problems. This is in the face of the fact that the problems of the previous two armies were pretty much entirely their own fault. The Manhunters were created by them (and replaced by the extremely similar and also eventually evil Alpha Lantern Corps), and the Green Lantern Corps were led by misinformation and factors completely beyond their control, with their last "problem" being that one of them managed to kill a rogue Guardian.
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Tautological Templar / int_b3a3fa47	comment	In the Babylon 5 episode "Comes the Inquisitor", we meet the Vorlon Inquisitor Sebastian, who once held this belief while doing God's work. The Vorlons made sure to show him the depth of his error.
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Tautological Templar / int_b4996199	comment	Spider-Man: Venom believes that he's the good guy and anything he does to Spider-Man is justified because he "ruined his life." The fact that Spider-Man hadn't even met the man before he got his powers does nothing to dissuade this view.
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Tautological Templar / int_b4d8fe25	comment	BioShock 2: Sofia Lamb just wants to push mankind into its next evolutionary stage. It's for the Greater Good, and nothing could be more evil than trying to stop this noble goal. Ask yourself: are Rapture, human consciousness, individuality itself, and Eleanor's mind really such high prices to pay for paradise?
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Tautological Templar / int_b6c15d0	comment	In many The Conversion Bureau stories, especially those written by Chatoyance, Celestia and the ponies completely fail to see anything wrong with forced conversion and why the human race is so pissed off at them and fighting so hard against them.
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Tautological Templar / int_b80c3b	comment	Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog: Captain Hammer, the Narcissistic Jerkass Bully, is a Hero, or so he believes. He also believes that all nerds and Goth kids are supervillains and should be reported to the police. Dr. H himself doesn't have any illusions about which side he's on... he's trying to get into the "Evil League of Evil", after all... but he still apparently believes that once he's in charge, everyone (or at least the vast majority) will be legitimately better off than they are now. "The world is a mess, and I just need to rule it." He seems to be somewhat confused as to his actual goals; he once described his ideal world as "Anarchy which I run."
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Tautological Templar / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Warhammer 40,000: Just about every Radical Inquisitor is in danger of (eventually) becoming this. The important distinction between Radicals and Puritans (who will happily nuke a planet if the slightest whiff of heresy is found) is that the Radicals are willing to tread the thin line between heresy and non-heresy (as dictated by the Imperial Creed), as well as turn the tools of the enemy against it, e.g. Chaos against Chaos (daemonically possessed weapon and hosts, etc). Of course, many such Radicals are overconfident enough to always think they can control it, fall under the Daemon's control without realizing it, and then get surprised/outraged when another Inquisitor comes to investigate and/or assassinate them. Of the different types of radicals, Xanthians may risk becoming this while Oblationists already are ones. Others such as the Seculous Attendos and Xeno Hybris completely dive into heresy because they believe that the Imperial Creed is actually holding humanity back and therefore aren't an example. The main reason these two forms aren't is that they don't try to use chaos. Seculous Attendos want the Imperium to become secular while Xeno Hybris think that humanity is better off trying to cooperate with some speciesnote No matter you open-mindedness there's no cooperating with the likes of a Tyranid swarm or the old-version Necrons, and dealing with something like the C'Tan would be as bad as Chaos. Plus there's the odd Chaos-worshipping alien who gets to piss off even the Hybris by also being heretical in ways they actually care about. of Xenos. The Flawless Host are a Chaos warband who originated this way. They believed themselves to be pure and perfect, and so could do no wrong. Eventually, they started massacring entire planets for no reason, because if they wanted to do it then it must be right! They're now devoted to Slaanesh. The Emperor of Mankind maintains that killing people who don't share your beliefs and worldview is awful except when he does it because he's right. He has been called out on his hypocrisy.
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Tautological Templar / int_bcb03d22	comment	In Hazbin Hotel the angels suffer from a bad case of Light Is Not Good as the more extreme among them think that the sinners in Hell are all depraved and irreversibly broken, and thus are deserving of death at their hands. Original Man Adam gleefully partakes in slaughtering his fellow former humans, despite having been a sinner himself. In Episode 6 it's revealed that none of the angels actually know the criteria for entering Heaven and just assume that everyone in Hell deserves it. While other angels are shown not to be as depraved as the ones charged with exterminating sinners, Charlie Morningstar and Emily bring this up as a problem for heaven and hell in general: If souls are judged once and for all at death, then not only can sinners get no chance to be redeemed (which is Charlie's goal), but angels are left to act with impunity without being cast from heaven.
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Tautological Templar / int_bcde4417	comment	In Cursed Blood, this causes Katsuki Bakugo to make multiple mistakes. As he believes himself to be the next great hero and his former friend Izuku as his villainous nemesis (on account of the latter's Quirk, the eponymous "Cursed Blood"), he ends up nearly killing several other students in an attempt to kill Izuku just because he lost to him in the Hero Training class. Not even getting sent to a psychiatric institution does push him out of his delusions.
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Tautological Templar / int_bd310eaa	comment	In El Goonish Shive, this is deconstructed. Damien believed that as a god he had an Omniscient Morality License and was Driven to Suicide upon realizing that he wasn't one.
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Tautological Templar / int_bdbcdadf	comment	In Neither a Bird nor a Plane, it's Deku!, Lady Inanna says anyone who opposes her is wrong and deserves to die for disrupting her World of Smiles. The dead have no right to interfere with the affairs of the living. Therefore, it's impossible for her to be wrong.
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Tautological Templar / int_c0da5437	comment	For the most part, subverted by The Punisher who's well aware that what he's doing is perfectly illegal (and when caught by heroes, his defense is usually along the lines of "kill me or I'll kill more criminals in prison". More than once he kills other vigilantes, although in this case it's (somewhat) justified in that they don't do the same obsessive prep work that he does to prevent civilian casualties and/or are even more monstrous than Frank.
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Tautological Templar / int_c43df4d8	comment	More modern stories of Doctor Who — both on TV and in spin-off media — have shown that the Doctor relies on his companions to ensure that he doesn't go so far as to become this, particularly in stories such as the Fifth Doctor audio Time in Office (though it should be noted in total fairness that this isn't a straight example, as the Doctor independently recognises the tautology he's faced with in this story and rejects it himself, though he does thank his companion for her prudent advice) or the Twelfth Doctor episode "Hell Bent". We get to see what happens to the Doctor when he strays too close to this in "The Waters of Mars": he concludes that, as the last of the Time Lords, it is his right to twist and turn the flow of time however he pleases, damn the consequences. It takes the suicide of someone as a result of his actions to set him straight again.
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Tautological Templar / int_ca4949d1	comment	In Villains by Necessity, the side of Good is actually pretty damned evil. Not only is the world becoming "mystically unbalanced" by their actions, but they've turned it into a horrible theocratic dictatorship and most of them still insist that they are Good and all who oppose them are Evil. The so-called "heroes" are also pretty blasÃ© about rape — at least when they're the ones doing it.
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Tautological Templar / int_cceb25de	comment	The Locked Tomb: The Eighth House mainlines this. At one point, Silas insists that since they are the only pure ones, they are not obligated to keep their promises to the representatives of the other Houses - a move that strains even his cavalier Colum's Undying Loyalty. Silas is also noticeably willing to declare the forms of necromancy used by other houses to be blasphemous, even though he himself specialises in soul siphoning, the only one the God-Emperor ever actually denounced.
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Tautological Templar / int_d1ae6f89	comment	The Legend of Heroes: Trails from Zero: The Dâˆ´G Cult condemns the Septian Church as a power-hungry organization whose goddess won't save everyone equally and believes that the best path for humanity is to create a true god. However, they hypocritically perform deadly experiments on children and pimp them to blackmail politicians into servitude, all while believing themselves to be righteous because their belief is "real." The High Priest, Joachim Gunter, refuses to believe the cult's would-be deity when she rejects him and claims that the protagonists must be manipulating her.
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Tautological Templar / int_d29275fa	comment	The Malleus Maleficarum uses such "reasoning" as a proof that the witches do actually fly on broomsticks and cast evil spells, rather than it happening in their imagination, as per some more reasonable claims. It goes like this: "If they didn't do those things in reality, there'd be no reasons for us to burn them. But we couldn't possibly be wrong on this accord, hence they do fly on broomsticks in reality. Burn the Witch!!"
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Tautological Templar / int_d4623ebb	comment	In 3 Slytherin Marauders, Neville gains this twisted worldview as a result of both nature (his mother, Alice was a Knight Templar) and nurture (he grew up resenting Harry Potter and living in constant fear of his life from his Evil Uncle Algie.) No matter what he does, he is justified in his own mind, and no matter what anyone says or does, he believes that Harry is evil.
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Tautological Templar / int_d9c602eb	comment	In one South Park two-parter, Eric Cartman, in the guise of his "superhero" Secret Identity The Coon, manipulated Cthulhu (yes, that Cthulhu) into working for him and used it to kill and destroy everyone and everything he didn't like (and then got mad when Cthulhu was getting all the media credit), justifying it by saying that he was making the world a better place. When Kenny, as the superhero Mysterion, confronts him and angrily tells him that he's only making a better world for himself, Cartman simply and in all honesty just says "Yes, that's what heroes do", and didn't really get Kenny's point. He seriously thought Kenny and the other boys were only trying to stop him out of jealousy.
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Tautological Templar / int_dfb784ab	comment	Ra's al Ghul is going to make the world a better place, so in the meantime, he should be treated like God. Notably, he is trying to murder billions of people so that his family can inherit the Earth, on his terms as well.
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Tautological Templar / int_e034f402	comment	Bruno the Bandit: In the satirical story "The Good Guy", there's a character actually called the Good Guy who's the main villain. That is pretty telling. He insists that he's supremely rational and plainly states that he has irrefutable proof that he is the good guy and therefore must be in the right, the irrefutable proof being that his sword has "Good Guy" written on it.
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Tautological Templar / int_e144ba19	comment	Knight-Commander Meredith of Dragon Age II gets worse as the game progresses partially due to the influence of her red lyrium sword, but believes she is always in the right because she is keeping people safe from blood mages and demons. By Act III, she's decided that anyone who disagrees with her at all is a mind-controlled blood mage puppet. Every decent Templar still alive has realized what she is, but they're all too afraid of her to speak out. Thrask tries to form a mage-templar alliance to depose her, but picks exactly the wrong person to be his right hand. When Meredith goes completely off the deep end, the entire Templar Order (except Cullen, and possibly Carver) runs out of sight and lets Hawke's group do all the work.
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Tautological Templar / int_e262207	comment	In Sex Note, Souichiro Yagami believes that it's impossible that any of his men are raping people because they are the police, the good guys, so of course they'd never abuse their authority like that. So he decides it all must somehow be Kougoukan's fault, that no rapes actually happened, and it's all a plot to embarrass the police.
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Tautological Templar / int_e75c6d45	comment	Goblins: Kore The Paladin murders innocent and villain alike if he perceives them as evil, abiding evil, or having been in the same room as evil. Why no higher power has intervened and revoked his paladin powers is a mystery to other characters and readers alike. Eventually revealed that he is cheating the alignment requirements via captured souls.
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Tautological Templar / int_e7a27429	comment	In The Bridge, this is behind the falls of both Bagan and Grogar, particularly the latter, they came to believe that as gods, they were incapable of making mistakes and that any course of action that they took was automatically correct, due to their Pride. Harmony, on the other hand, is fully aware that God Is Flawed, and will admit to having made mistakes, which is probably a major part of why she's still good while the others are not.
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Tautological Templar / int_e7e37776	comment	Rance Burgess in Firefly has shades of this. He frequents the local brothel, but when he impregnates one of the girls, he's disgusted at the thought of his child being raised by a whore and is entirely willing to massacre the entire brothel to ensure that the child has a decent, proper upbringing in a respectable family. There's no rationalization or justification of why he's better than the prostitute he was sleeping with, just the rock-solid belief that he's a righteous family man, so whatever he does for his family is inherently right.
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Tautological Templar / int_e9ec19e1	comment	Spec Ops: The Line features a Character Arc that seems to be about a character waffling between being a Tautological Templar and being afraid of becoming one. "Do you feel like a hero yet?"
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Tautological Templar / int_ec9155b1	comment	The Quisition in Small Gods runs on this. If the Quisition suspects you, then you must therefore be totally guilty, because the Great God Om would not have placed suspicion in their minds otherwise. Deacon Vorbis wholeheartedly believes that every atrocity he commits is by the will of Om and that even when he deceives he never lies — instead he is acting in service to a "greater truth". It's revealed in the end that he had honestly believed he was a prophet his whole life when it really was just his own thoughts; the realization breaks him.
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Tautological Templar / int_edabe912	comment	Thank You for Smoking has a scene where Nick extols the virtues of the Chewbacca Defense for his son, explaining that he has to be this trope in his work as a tobacco lobbyist.
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Tautological Templar / int_ef7b3325	comment	Fantastic Four: DOOM IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!! This, in a nutshell, sums up everything about Doctor Doom's character; he sincerely believes he's the smartest man in the world, a veritable god, and that his brilliance means he deserves to rule over the world. Depending on the Writer, sometimes, the authors seem to agree with him.
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Tautological Templar / int_f7d93e4a	comment	Assassin's Creed: When they are not just in it for the power, the Templars are literally this. Why are Templars' Creed good? Because they strong-arm the world from falling into chaos, but only if it's them who gets to exercise being heavy-handed. If it's by anyone else, it will breed chaos! Best exemplified by Dr. Warren Vidic, who believes that his actions are not only pardonable but righteous all along — unlike "those Assassins, who only take and take." The Assassins can also fall under this, believing that killing a Templar is justified no matter what. This is what caused Shay to join the Templars in Assassin's Creed Rogue. Of course, considering that the Templars seek to remove free will from everyone else in the world, it's understandable why the Assassins fell into the mindset as well.
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Tautological Templar / int_f98421cc	comment	Kingdom Hearts 3: Final Stand: The Insurgos, hands down. As far as they're concerned, everyone in the royal family of Radiant Garden is evil purely because they're related to Hanako, a tyrant queen, anything and everything they do to get at them is justified, and anyone who sides with the royals for any reason is their enemy. It's actually revealed in Moons of Fate that Yamato Kazekiri's father approached them, offering to negotiate with the royal family for them and make things easier; rather than take his offer, the Insurgos openly accused him of "kissing up to the royals" and murdered him on the spot before killing his pregnant wife.
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Tautological Templar / int_fbb6adaa	comment	In the Star Trek: Enterprise Relaunch novels, one member of a group of Vulcan fanatics who reject the recent discovery of Surak's true writings has fallen deep into Believing Their Own Lies, with her internal monologue consisting entirely of reassuring herself that she is perfectly logical, and therefore anything she wants to be true must be logical because a perfectly logical person believes it.
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Tautological Templar / int_ffb43795	comment	Cobra Kai: A lot of the main conflict in the series stems from Daniel LaRusso, thanks to his experiences in 'The Karate Kid trilogy, refusing to view the Cobra Kai dojo as anything but a Villain by Default Thug Dojo and always assuming the worst of Johnny Lawrence and the students' motives. Daniel goes on to pass this view to his own students and, as a result, they believe that when it comes to their own conflicts with the Cobra Kai students, they are always in the right even as they escalate the tensions and partake in actions that go against Mr. Miyagi's Martial Pacifist teachings.
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