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The Wicked Stage
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Performing on stage was a disreputable profession in Europe for several centuries. Acting was a transient occupation, and any profession that required extensive travel was regarded with suspicion as its members did not have roots in any specific community. Historically, many crimes, including theft and prostitution, were blamed on actors. Which was ironic considering theatre's origins from ancient Greek religious rites and medieval passion plays performed in churches.note Though perhaps less ironic when one considers what some of those Greek rites often entailed. There was also the argument that if someone was good at pretending on stage to be what they were not, then they could be equally good at offstage deception. Under some laws, female actors in particular could not sue for slander because being associated with the stage meant that they did not have a reputation to protect. This led to a self-fulfilling situation, in which nearly all women avoided the stage in order to protect themselves. Indeed, in Shakespeare's time, female actors were almost nonexistent and therefore female roles were usually played by either teenage boys or very young men in drag. Some later actresses attempted to combat the unwholesome stereotypes surrounding their profession by unconventionally billing themselves as "Mrs." followed by their married surname instead of "Miss" + Stage Name. Other professions that involved performing on stage could also carry the same negative image, such as singing or dancing. In Western films and TV shows, screenwriters invented the notion of frontier "dance hall performers" to get around Hays Code moral rules. When they wanted to depict a cowboy or gunslinger visit a brothel and see a prostitute, this was euphemistically referred to as seeing a dance hall performer. This trope was used in early literary works as a shorthand to indicate that a female actor was The Vamp. As the stigma against acting decreased, it became a way to indicate either the desperation of a poor family (where a daughter or a wife would go on stage) or an obstacle to love (where a young man must get his parents to revoke the Parental Marriage Veto inspired by his love interest's occupation as an actor). The 19th century saw a great amount of conscious effort to purify the stage, while the 20th century saw the rise in popularity of motion pictures and later television, all of which helped to make performing on stage far more respectable. So, at this point it is a Forgotten Trope that usually only shows up in period pieces if at all. Nowadays, Theatre is True Acting and it's more common for the film and music industries to be depicted as hotbeds of corruption and fragile egos. See Horrible Hollywood and Music Is Politics. Not to be confused with the musical Wicked. |
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Touched on in Mrs. Doubtfire: At a custody hearing, Daniel makes a desperate plea begging the judge not to take his kids away. The judge dismisses it as nothing more than a manipulative speech delivered by an actor adept enough to fool his own ex-wife into thinking he was an old woman for several months, and he awards full custody to Miranda. | |
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A Little Lily Princess: Jessie, one of the students of the prestigious boarding school in which the story is set, at some point needs to be talked out of her idea of joining the ballet, one of the reasons being the bad reputation of dancers during the time period depicted in the game. | |
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In Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead, the Player is duplicitous and willing to put on erotic adventures if the price is right, which will also include the hapless Alfred, the young crossdresser in the troupe. | |
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Given a tongue-in-cheek nod in Paddington 2, when Mrs Bird (played by Julie Walters) goes off on a small diatribe about how actors are inherently evil and untrustworthy - they lie for a living, you see! | |
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Christian of the Buddenbrooks has an affair and an extramarital child with actress Aline Puvogel who has had two other extramarital children before meeting Christian. When he eventually marries her, she promptly sends him off to an asylum, so that she can spend his inherited fortune as she pleases. | |
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Huck and Jim meet a two-man Shakespearean troupe in Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. The guys are in town with "The Royal Nonesuch", and they turn out to be conmen. Their performance... didn't exactly meet with rave reviews. | |
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Played remarkably straight in Disney's Pinocchio, in which becoming an actor is equated with all the other naughty things that Pinocchio learns to avoid doing. Granted, he was joining the theater in lieu of going to school. Still, Jiminy gets in a Take That! at actors not needing consciences. | |
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In The King's Speech, King George V remarks on this when discussing the importance of radio with Bertie after giving his 1934 Christmas address. The king tells Bertie to try reading the speech himself, and when Bertie refuses, he replies: | |
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Invoked in "Peron's Latest Flame" in Evita: "And she's an actress/The last straw!" | |
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Mentioned in a Judge Dee story, where an actress tells the judge he probably thinks actresses are all prostitutes. | |
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Hetty Feather In 'Emerald Star', Hetty is a showgirl and a circus ringmaster, in 'Little Stars' she is a music hall star and then an actress. | |
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Actor Eric McCormack, best known as Will Truman on Will & Grace, has said that when he was completing acting school, he was told he could be a stage actor or a screen actor, as apparently the school he attended looked down on television. | |
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In Mansfield Park, Fanny's disapproval of private theatricals is a mark of her character, even before the others use it as an excuse to flirt inappropriately. | |
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In the Elemental Masters series, particularly The Serpent's Shadow and Reserved for the Cat, ballet dancing (and to a lesser extent other forms of acting) are seen as essentially vehicles for prostitution or stripping. Ballerinas are paid like crap but have opportunities to acquire male patrons, who pay very well indeed for their services; meanwhile, a can-can dancer lives off of tips from showing her legs. In an aversion, the viewpoint characters don't see this as dishonorable, but society as a whole finds the business rather skeevy (as well as the Back-Alley Doctor helping these women). | |
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Several Jeeves and Wooster-stories deal with some acquaintance or other falling in love with a chorus girl, and the resulting familial disapproval.note A chorus girl was essentially a professional Ms. Fanservice, and while the stage was becoming respectable at the time of the stories, a chorus girl wasn't many notches above a prostitute. A modern equivalent might be someone declaring they're marrying a stripper. Happens in Wodehouse's Blandings Castle stories as well. | |
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Show Boat discusses this in the number "Life on the Wicked Stage." Ellie disillusions her female admirers that she's only had scandalous affairs on stage. | |
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Love and Freindship, the narrator's grandmother: | |
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Shakespeare in Love shows our actor friends a-whoring and a-wasting in houses of ill repute. | |
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Runaways (Rainbow Rowell): How Granny Hayes, mother and adoptive mother to the Hayes who are Molly Hayes parents has choice words to say about the Pride; | |
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Mentioned in An American Tail: Fievel Goes West. | |
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In the Sherlock Holmes story A Scandal in Bohemia, the titular detective is hired by a foreign king to find and steal the evidence of the king's scandalous love affair in case it gets used for blackmail. What makes the affair scandalous is, of course, that it was with an opera singer — a profession only one step at most above actress (Watson himself calls her a woman of "dubious and questionable memory"). Amusingly, in order to retain the scandalous feel of the affair in a more modern setting, the modernised adaptation in Sherlock had to change her from an opera singer to a lesbian dominatrix. | |
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When Marcus Didius Falco joins a troupe of traveling actors, it's mentioned that as well as the above-mentioned stigmas, officials also suspect them of being spies. Falco has to keep secret from Helena's family that she appeared in one production (dressed as a dab-chick). In a later book, Helena's brother reveals that he's fallen in love with an actress, and Falco just groans without waiting for further details, assuming she's some floozy who'll get him involved in scandal. | |
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It's revealed on Downton Abbey that the Comically Serious head butler, Carson, was a vaudeville performer in his youth. Carson is deeply ashamed of this. The rest of the characters look on this revelation as amusing at worst, and Lord Grantham is actually quite impressed by it. | |
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