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In this 'verse, the problem isn't that There Are No Therapists — the characters have just decided they're too cool for therapy. The concept of counseling, therapy, or treatment is discussed or brought up, but it's rejected. The characters may feel this way originally but usually slowly realize the value of therapy and come around. If they do, this will likely lead to Epiphany Therapy, and further visits are never brought up again. Another very common variation features the characters claiming this, not knowing that they're one Gilligan Cut away from bawling their eyes out on a couch. If it's a Police Procedural or military drama and the protagonist is required to see a psychologist before being returned to "active duty," then they'll demand that the psychologist just "sign the damn paper already." In major examples, characters might actually say this trope word for word and reject the idea of counseling despite intense psychological issues or self-destruction. In minor examples, the characters will probably just insist that they can handle their problems, a therapist couldn't help with their super special problems, or that they're just too busy. More prevalent among men than women. See also No Medication for Me and Don't You Dare Pity Me! |
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In The Elite Squad Nascimento is sent to see a psychiatrist, but he can't or won't open up to her about his problems. Admittedly, she failed to recognise when he tried to use I Have This Friend. | |
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In I Am J, J begrudgingly goes to therapy because he can't go on hormone replacement treatment without therapy. J is however horrified at the thought of therapy and thinks he seems "crazy" for going to it. | |
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In Worm, Grue has this attitude. | |
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Heralds of Valdemar: Kestra'chern in The Black Gryphon counsel armies who are in a war that has been raging for over a generation. Unfortunately, many people in said armies consider them to be nothing more than very pricy prostitutes - in fairness, they do some of that too, as part of helping people feel that there is more to their lives than endless fighting. Chief counselor Amberdrake, who is becoming increasingly messed up as a result of losing his family and more and more friends to the war, states in the narration that he can't go talk to another kestra'chern about it, because he's their leader, and they'd be demoralized. Some of his patients-turned-friends end up being the ones to console him when he breaks down. |
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The Night Shift: Averted in season two. After starting therapy for his PTSD, TC brings up how great therapy is on multiple occasions. | |
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In Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics), Sonic watches as Robotnik's psychosis takes hold of him, to the point that he must be put in a straitjacket. Sonic seems deeply troubled by this. He tries talking to Sally about it, but she tells him the equivalent of "Suck it up and quit being such a drag; you're harshing our mellow." | |
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Imperial Radch: Seivarden has this attitude. It's ultimately presented as exactly as stupid and self-destructive as it is, as Seivarden is, to put it lightly, a hot mess following losing her ship in an ambush, being frozen in stasis for centuries, losing her family and everything she held dear, becoming a drug addict and finally becoming a Satellite Character to the protagonist. | |
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Lydecker is once shown attending an AA meeting in Dark Angel. He apparently does that solely to tell everyone that he recovered from his alcoholism by simply taking a good hard look at himself and deciding that he has to change, and everyone who needs to go to AA and take things one step at a time and so on are weaklings. | |
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Gilmore Girls features the mild humourous version. Lorelai/Rory have both dismissed therapy as unnecessary, only to end up talking for hours or bursting into tears and spilling their guts, respectively. | |
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On Becker, the title character feels this way, and only speaks in his mandatory therapy session after being told that he's "almost" broken the record for prolonged silence. | |
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BoJack Horseman holds this view, which is so entrenched that even when he starts seeing one in Season 5, he justifies it to himself by referring to her as a friend. At the end of the season he's screwed up so badly that he gets over this and goes into rehab for his various addictions. He even candidly admits that he needs help. | |
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Bones: Similar to the above example. The macho man Booth decides that Gordon Gordon Wyatt should just get him back on active duty and Sweets should just leave him alone. They both bring him around. His partner Brennan is a "hard" scientist (forensic anthropology) with contempt for "soft" science like psychology. Not to mention her own passel of serious emotional issues. |
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House: House has very little faith in mental health. | |
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On Psych, Lassiter has to grit out the word therapist. Shawn also cracks a joke about how he's proud never to have seen a therapist. | |
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In the short film Animal Behaviour, Victor the gorilla thinks therapy is a waste of time and mocks all the other patients; he's only there for court-ordered anger management therapy. It's not until he thinks he got Dr. Clement killed that he realizes he really does need help with his anger management issues. | |
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X-Men Red (2022): Shot down by the Fisher King in the first issue when talking with Magneto (who could really use a professional shrink). While Arakko is a Proud Warrior Race Guy kind of place, they think it's stupid to be too proud to admit you need healing. | |
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X-Factor: Doc Samson is a psychologist, and the team members pretty much sneer at seeing him... but they eventually come around. | |
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Marshal Law: Suicida says he's been diagnosed with PTSD after coming back from war, but hates therapists because, "If you try talking to them they just walk all over you with their big dictionary words. ... What they need is a smack in the mouth." | |
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Little Simz's "Therapy" is her rumination on why she's never felt the need for therapy, though also why she was considering the option. In the song, she imagines herself having a conversation with a therapist, going over her various insecurities and worries, her cynicism towards believing that she can really be "fixed" (let alone by someone she feels may be condescending in their compassion), and overall affirming herself with the belief that she's strong enough that she can still deal with her flaws and live a rich, fulfilling life. | |
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In Scrubs, Turk concedes to Carla as far as attending their couples therapy but refuses to actually say anything. Carla later has this attitude about getting help for her postpartum depression. Jordan, however, emphatically denies it: |
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Rick and Morty: Beth and Rick both seem to think this in "Pickle Rick". Beth refuses to concede her faults and instead uses the session as an excuse to blame her problems on her kids. Rick claims that therapy just makes people boring and complacent like livestock, and he's no cow. The therapist responds by pointing out that the real reason he is so averse to therapy is that it is boring in the way that brushing your teeth is boring. The work that is done to maintain and repair life is not exciting, but it's necessary for most people to thrive. But people like Rick and Beth are so Allergic to Routine that they would do stupid and self-destructive crap just to avoid it. In Rick's case, he turned himself into a pickle in an attempt to get out of therapy. Thankfully, Beth gets some Character Development later in the season, decides to work on being a better person, and gets back together with Jerry soon after, and that goes hand-in-hand with averting this trope. Seasons 4 and 5 both establish that the family (minus Rick, who still isn't interested) regularly sees her, particularly Beth and Jerry for couples' therapy, and have a happier, healthier relationship as a result. |
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Northern Rescue: Zigzagged, after the death of her mother, and getting arrested, Maddie has to see a court-appointed therapist, but the whole forced aspect of it does make her a bit unhappy about it. | |
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Homicide: Life on the Street: Bolander believes this, due to blaming a marriage counselor for his divorce. After his suicide attempt, Kellerman refuses to get therapy out of fear it will ruin his reputation even further and make him look crazy. |
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In an episode of King of the Hill, Bill tries to kill himself. Peggy suggests sending him to a therapist, but Hank only responds "He's not crazy, he's just suicidal". | |
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Perception (2012): Kate claims this. Bonus points for reciting the "just sign the damn papers so I can get better at work" line. | |
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Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail: Chloe Cerise could really use some therapy from the bullying she faced at school for being different and the fact her Childhood Friend could care less about her than his obessiones with Mew. After an incident where she was suspended for nearly killing her bully with a paint can — after said bully pulled a Carrie on her — one teacher told her father to give her a therapist, business card and all. Cerise... shoved the idea aside and decided that it was better to put his daughter in the Institute. This turned out to be a very very bad idea down the line. In fact, when Lexi asked why she wasn't getting a therapist, Chloe replies "Therapy isn't in my father's dictionary". | |
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Averted in DuckTales (2017). The b-plot of one episode deals with Dewey and Webby finding out that Donald goes to an Anger Management Therapist to keep his anger in check. When they confront the therapist about several things, like that Donald is still one of the angriest characters in the setting, said therapist points out (correctly) that the therapy isn't just making him less angry, it's about helping him find useful outlets for that anger (in this case, parental instincts) so he doesn't take it out on other people or things. | |
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Jessica Jones (2015): Jessica emphatically states that she neither needs nor wants therapy, instead relying on self-medication with alcohol and internal repression. Her coping technique when under stress is to recite the street names of her childhood homenote based on a real-life grounding technique taught to assault survivors, but she at one point angrily laments how little it actually does. Several of the Kilgrave survivors who go to the discussion group become disillusioned as time goes on, and are easily stirred by Robyn to abandon their talking in favor of retribution. They point out that sharing their stories over and over again is not fixing anything. |
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In Fallout: New Vegas, Corporal Betsy, one of a group of snipers, got caught and raped by a raider, and after escaping she went back to work like nothing happened. She didn't want to show any weakness to her battle buddies, so she didn't seek therapy, but convincing her that she does indeed need to seek therapy is one of the side-missions in the game. | |
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In Fifty Shades of Grey, Christian seems to think so. So does his adoptive family, probably, seeing as they adopted a deeply traumatized child and never bothered to seek professional help for him, despite his being selectively mute for two years. There is a psychiatrist, but he is only there to deliver exposition and to flatter Ana. | |
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Flowers in the Attic: This recurs. | |
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In S.S.D.D. Tessa refuses to see anyone about the rat with glowing eyes that only she can see or hear, after one incident where she zones out and sees horrific images that make her visibly freak out her boyfriend, Julian, makes her see a doctor. Grudgingly she visits the researcher who designed her implants and he suggests that her ocular implants are miscalibrated, after they're re-aligned she mentions the "hallucinations" to Julian who berates her for not mentioning that sooner. She reminds him that he once attempted to kill himself and asks if he sought any professional help before that. Granted Tessa's visions are actually due to a sadistic AI hacking her implants. | |
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Hunter (1984). In "Unfinished Business", Rick Hunter and Dee Dee McCall start arguing Like an Old Married Couple after they nearly shoot each other in a dark warehouse, so their captain suggests they see the department shrink. Both refuse while secretly seeing him behind their partner's back, until the cat gets out of the bag and they start going together like they should have done in the first place. Hunter at least might have had a good excuse not to see a shrink given that the first one he saw (under orders) turned out to be a serial killer, but this never comes up. | |
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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: In the episode Miles O'Brien is subjected to a virtual 20 year prison sentence that only took a few hours in reality by the paranoid Argrathi who then release him to return home. Back at the station Dr. Bashir finds there is no way to remove the memories of prison and that he will have to learn to live with them. As part of that Bashir has him go see Counselor Telnorri. O'Brien goes for a few sessions then stops going. Because of that he becomes more antisocial towards Quark, Bashir, and others on the station. When Bashir tells Captain Sisko that O'Brien was refusing to see Telnorri Sisko relieves O'Brien of duty until he completes counseling. Returning to his quarters O'Brien yells at his daughter when she tries to talk to him. Horrified over what he had just done he went to a cargo bay to commit suicide, but Dr. Bashir is able to talk him down. Having a better understanding of what happened Bashir gives him new medication but tells him he will still have to see Telnorri. O'Brien complies with the new treatment plan and is much better in a few weeks. Then in "The Sound of Her Voice", Miles O'Brien is speaking to a starship captain about a range of subjects, and when he gets to the area of ships counselors explains that he does not see a need for them. She agrees, and they speak about how you can deal with these issues by talking to friends and loved ones.... except for the things that you cannot talk to your friends and loved ones about, and Miles laughs as he realizes that he has been led back to saying that the only people you can talk about these things with is a ship's counselor. This is apparently a recurring theme in Miles' life, as when a ship's counselor joins the cast in season 7, Miles O'Brien states his distaste for the profession to Julian Bashir. Their conversation starts as a Therapy Is for the Weak discussion, but eventually implies that Miles has nothing against therapy, he just feels that it should be done naturally and with loved ones, and not a disconnected professional. In other words, he hates therapists, but not therapy. |
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Will from Good Will Hunting is forced to see a therapist as part of a deal allowing him to forgo jail time for an assault. A troubled genius, Will treats the first few therapists he meets with contempt, but eventually begins to open up once Sean Maguire pushes back against his attitude (which includes threatening to kill Will if he tries to exploit Sean still being not over his wife's death). | |
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It's revealed in Season 2 of You're the Worst that Gretchen has suffered from clinical depression since she was teenager, and it's become increasingly obvious that the coping mechanisms she developed aren't working as well as they used to (plus, when it really flares up, she goes beyond feeling crippling sadness to just being completely non-functional). However, she never sought out any help or treatment because she "doesn't want to lose her edge". At the end of the season, however, she realizes that it's not worth suffering anymore and how her illness affects the people around her, especially her boyfriend Jimmy, and she begins therapy in the following season (but it's made clear it's not a magical or instant cure-all). | |
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Black Dagger Brotherhood: At first Zsadist steadfastly refuses to talk about his abuse, owing at least partly to the shame and unresolved guilt and horror, but not long before his daughter is born he begins talking privately to Mary—a trained therapist—and seems to be benefiting greatly from their sessions. | |
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Jack from 30 Rock, good God. One of his most famous lines: | |
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Strong Medicine. After Andy's husband slaps her during an argument, she promises to reconsider leaving him if he goes to counseling. He claims to be going, but she notices a discrepancy in his story and realizes that he's been lying to her. He scornfully declares, "I don't need that mumbo-jumbo". | |
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The New Retcons: There are therapists for the now completely insane Elly but her husband John refuses to seek them out, thinking it'd make him look bad. | |
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NCIS: Also similar to the NUMB3RS example. The team finally gets some long-overdue therapy. It... seems to help. A little. | |
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In Batwoman, Maggie suggests to Kate that recent events (i.e., Gotham being attacked by mythical creatures), coupled with the lingering effects of seeing her mother killed as a child, have caused her to develop (or at least start manifesting symptoms of) PTSD, making her slip up and make dumb mistakes while out crimefighting. Kate is very resistant to seeing a psychiatrist at first but ends up making some significant progress through her issues after a few sessions. | |
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Star Trek: Lower Decks: In "Crisis Point", Mariner loudly protests being sent to therapy after one violation too many of Starfleet protocol. Of course, that also has to do with the fact that the Cerritos' counselor isn't very good — he's condescending and, bizarrely, makes constant food metaphors about his patients' issues. Mariner decides that therapy does work after being defeated by a holographic simulation of herself which cut through all of her bullshit during their fight-slash-argument. | |
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Aaravi in Monster Prom has a route where you help her avoid her therapist. The trope eventually gets subverted however, as the good ending of said route has her submit to therapy and benefit from it. This carries into the sequel, where she's considerably tempered from the last game thanks to her therapy, although she does still have a few issues. | |
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NUMB3RS: Don wants the therapist to just sign the paper and get on with it. He has no interest in actually engaging. Eventually, the shrink brings him around. | |
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Life Is Strange: Nathan Prescott's serious mental problems go mostly untreated because of this. He was briefly in therapy, but his father took him out (despite the strenuous objections of the therapist) because he decided the whole affair was worthless. Worse, he's been bribing the school to cover up Nathan's many indiscretions; if Nathan's repeated outbursts were made public, he'd probably be forced into court-mandated therapy that could actually do him some good. David Madsen has PTSD from his time in the army and is avoiding therapy implicitly because of this trope. In the better endings, he starts going to therapy and getting properly medicated. |
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Zara Hossain Is Here: After her dad's shot, he won't go see a therapist, and Zara knows it's because he's convinced going is a sign he's weak. | |
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In the Lethal Weapon franchise, the police counselor is usually treated with scorn, and her efforts to help Riggs and Murtaugh with their issues are usually rebuffed. | |
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Oshi no Ko: Aqua was put in therapy as a child after seeing his mother murdered, but faked recovery so he wouldn't feel like he was worrying his family. Aqua also has Past-Life Memories of being an adult, so he may have thought therapy would only be necessary if he had the mind of a regular child. | |
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Ellen's stance at the beginning of To the Bone, largely because no therapy has ever helped her. She initially refuses to try going inpatient again before Dr. Beckham manages to convince her. | |
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In the My Story Animated video I Wish That My Sister Was Never Born, the girl's sister has BPD but refuses therapy because she doesn't think anything is wrong with her. | |
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Despite Dick's urging, Tara in We'd Fly Away Together refuses to talk to a therapist or take medicine. | |
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Sailor Moon Abridged: Raye has this viewpoint. | |
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Ready or Not (1993): The Ramone family begrudgingly agrees to attend family therapy sessions as part of an agreement with Lucy Ramone, who has returned home after some time living on her own. Despite being unenthusiastic during the sessions, the family later has a Epiphany Therapy. | |
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Domina: This is Robyn's problem when she starts going to therapy. Nevermind the fact that she got dragged to it by a nigh-omniscient god-being, people just really hate therapy. | |
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In Analyze This, mob boss Paul Vitti thinks that going to therapy is a major sign of weakness, especially for a person of his position, who has a lot of enemies. But due to extenuating circumstances, he reluctantly goes to see a therapist. He has this exchange with his therapist Ben Sobel: | |
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Fuminori believes this in Saya no Uta. He lies to his doctor and pretends his condition doesn't exist because he's afraid of being institutionalised, instead relying on his doting girlfriend for support. Unsurprisingly, this doesn't end well. | |
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In 52, Alan Scott refuses to get counseling after his daughter Jade's death and the Zeta Beam incident because he thinks he must appear stronger than that for other heroes who have suffered during the same events. | |
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Weiss' abusive father Jacques has this opinion in RWBY: Scars. Upon learning about Weiss' hallucinations, he tries to cover it up by keeping her a shut-in. He believes that Weiss going to a hospital or seeking therapy will reflect badly on his image and his company's image. | |
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JAG: Lieutenant Colonel Sarah Mackenzie is ordered to see a psychiatrist in season 9, and remains reluctant until the next season. | |
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier, kind of remarkably for a major action movie, completely averts this, as a major theme is the struggle of soldiers to return to civilian life. Sam Wilson/The Falcon has already dealt with that struggle and now works as a PTSD counselor for other vets; he's seen leading a group session in which other returning soldiers share their stories; and Captain America himself, Steve Rogers, voluntarily seeks him out for guidance and insight. | |
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Battlestar Galactica (2003): There are at least two therapists in the fleet, but only Bulldog and Hera are sent to see them. Starbuck declines therapy, saying that those doctors are more messed up than their patients. This is notable since Starbuck has major psychological issues, as does much of the cast. | |
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Played with on ER; the doctors and nurses work closely with the staff of the hospital's psych unit, but most of them seem to view psychiatric intervention as something that other people need, not they themselves. Of all the main characters, many of whom at some point in the show's run suffer traumas that are shown to have destructive effects on their lives, only a handful ever enter therapy, and most of them drag their feet about it and only go because a concerned third party coaxed them into it. That said, therapy and counseling services are generally portrayed as a good and necessary resource, and the psych staff is genuinely interested in their clients' well-being. | |
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Gold Digger has therapists, or more technically 'balance councilors', for helping mages and other magical beings with their problems. The Queen of Dragons T'mat, however, will have no part of them, not even for centuries after the most traumatic experience of her life (that, among other things, caused her to lose a hand, and this is among the least of the scars it left). Eventually, her daughter has to go to significant lengths to get help, and deposing her is discussed. | |
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Subverted in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt; the title character initially refuses a therapist's offer to get help for her many hang-ups and believes she can handle everything on her own. After going through a dissociative fugue state however, she decides to take up on the doctor's offer and goes through more than a few sessions. | |
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In We Own The Night, a police officer has arrived at the hospital to see his son (also a detective), who has been shot. When someone mentions that the department shrink is there for him, he snaps, "I don't need that crap." | |
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The Infinite Loops: The Shin Megami Tensei loops are highly damaged. Naoki Kashima, anchor of Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne, had it the worst. Conception was inevitable, and no matter what he did his friends always went insane, died, or went insane and then died. He had no variants, very few other loopers, and few Fused Loops. This, as can be imagined, left him very troubled. In one of his rare fused loops, Shepard offered him therapy, but he refused it. This was a very bad idea. | |
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The Falcon and the Winter Soldier begins with Bucky Barnes seeing a therapist to work through his Hydra brainwashing issues, but he finds it unproductive and is antagonistic as a result. Later, he has a joint session with Sam Wilson, which is Played for Laughs as they bicker with each other. | |
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In the backstory of Manly Guys Doing Manly Things, when the Commander's spacefuture superiors tell him that all his siblings are dead (they aren't). | |
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Sunset's Recovery Arc: When Rarity recommends that Sunset see a therapist, Sunset replies that she doubts they could do much. Her reaction is not due to her seeing therapy as "weak", but due to the limits of modern medicine. The brain is complicated and Sunset Shimmer doubts that medicine or therapy will do much to help her. | |
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In the end, the villain that caused the Sanctuary massacre in Heroes in Crisis plays with this. Wally West was sent to get therapy because of his family becoming Ret-Gone as a result of the events of Flashpoint/the New 52 reboot, but the "therapy" he got from the Sanctuary AI did much more harm than good. Believing that his own personal weaknesses were the reason his therapy was going so slowly and that other heroes couldn't be this screwed up, he rebuilt the video confessional files of Sanctuary... and after seeing the many awful secrets and dark backstories of all of his fellow heroes, Wally didn't get a "You Are Not Alone" inspiration, but rather a massive Freak Out that caused his powers to go out of control and kill everybody who was in Sanctuary accidentally. The whole mystery of the arc is the result of Wally trying to cover his tracks at such a colossal FUBAR and eventually being Driven to Suicide over it. | |
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Hey Arnold!: It seems like Bob Pataki thinks like this in "Helga On the Couch". Since he's a proud man, it's no surprise that he would think this. Ironically, he's the one who causes the dysfunction in the Pataki family in the first place. | |
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Mass Effect: Andromeda: Dr. Lexi T'Perro, the medical officer for the Tempest, sees this one coming, and sends an e-mail to the entire crew (all ten of them) listing the typical warning signs of stress and trauma as a means of heading it off. Problem is, Ryder's crew tend to avoid Lexi at any turn (and conversation implies at least one of Ryder's team is beginning to develop some issues). | |
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In the short story "A Model Life", no matter how hard Alexis tried to convince him, James refused to seek professional help for his depression, insisting he didn't even have a problem. | |
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The Mentalist: It is implied that Patrick Jane believes that from the pilot. However, it later transpires that he actually saw one for a lengthy period after shutting down once he came across the corpses of his family, and benefitted from it. | |
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On How I Met Your Mother, Barney refuses to go to therapy and instead sneaks into Lilly's kindergarten class to participate in "Feelings Hour". | |
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Rocket To Insanity: Rainbow Dash has been having terrible nightmares for weeks on end. It takes a toll on her psyche and she starts undergoing a Sanity Slippage. Dash's friend tries to get her help, but she refuses. In the end, she finally snaps and kills Pinkie. | |
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Queen of All Oni: After her encounter with Lung, Blankman suggests Jade see a therapist, but she refuses out of hand. And since she's clearly left with PTSD from the event, it doesn't take long for the Sanity Slippage to set in. | |
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One of the recurring discussed themes of The Sopranos. Tony considers that therapy is for the meek and has to keep his a secret, because if a guy in his line of work is known to be talkative, he may very well end up dead. | |
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