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Villains Never Lie

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Villains Never Lie	comment	Would I lie? When a villain declares that The Hero is the Tomato in the Mirror, or that his mentor is using him, or that his girlfriend doesn't love him, or that his long-lost father is actually the villain himself, the hero often believes it, instead of just assuming that the villain is trying to screw with him. Even if the hero does assume that, the doubts in the back of his mind start to gnaw. Also, the villain is usually telling the truth, or something that is "technically" true, for certain values of "true", anyway — there are only a few cases where the villain just makes something up for giggles. This is why Break Them by Talking works. This can often leave you wondering why the hero is suddenly carrying the Idiot Ball and believing the villain rather than his trusted companion. Or even believing anything the villain would say without having 50 sworn trustworthy witnesses to back it up. Of course, it becomes a lot more justified if the villain's general truthfulness has already been previously established. As an alternative, sometimes the statement is actually true, but only by failing to take into account the personalities and feelings of others. As an example, perhaps the hero is told, in an effort to convert him to the villain's side, that they are in fact the Tomato in the Mirror (which given the nature of the story is actually true), and that their girlfriend will never love them (which is not true, since the girlfriend in question has already found out about his status as a Tomato in the Mirror, and perhaps for any other person this would be true, but the girlfriend loves this about him). Expect this character to be strung along for quite a few episodes before they find out this latter part. A common tool of The Chessmaster, the Manipulative Bastard, and Well-Intentioned Extremist, because what better way to get The Hero to trust you than by telling them something they can't deny or dismiss out of hand? Particularly common for the Magnificent Bastard — they're just that good that they don't have to waste time deceiving you and can instead play you like a harp using just the facts. The Noble Demon on the other hand may use this trope out of principle, feeling that the hero has heard enough lies and deserves the truth from them. Often takes the form of Brutal Honesty, because inconvenient or unvarnished truths are easier to twist to the villain's advantage. When a hero believes the villain will keep his word and the villain does not, expect an exchange along the lines of "You Said You Would Let Them Go!" "I Lied." Frequently, they'll Trash Talk the hero over being such a Horrible Judge of Character as to actually believe their lies in the first place. Is a subtrope of Fiction Never Lies. Compare Villain Reveals the Secret. A similar manipulation with the truth (but not limited to villains) is Lying by Omission, which can also overlap.
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Villains Never Lie / int_10d303b2	comment	Shin Megami Tensei if...: In the World of Pride, you will find a couple of classmates Taken for Granite. The villain comments that smashing the statues might free them. The game forces you or your partner to pick the Idiot Ball and do so. The guy laughs in your face when the result becomes apparent.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1331990c	comment	Kyubey of Puella Magi Madoka Magica rarely tells the whole truth, but never in the series actually says something that's later proven to be untrue. It's very good at twisting what it says to get the desired result, though. For example, when asked if it was possible to turn a Witch human again, it replies "Nobody has ever done it before. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if you could do it." Well, this is all true, because such a task is impossiblenote Or rather, as shown in one of the spinoff mangas, it is possible, but Kyoko and Madoka lacked both the time and resources to be able to implement the solution used there, and Kyubey doesn't have emotions, so it's physically incapable of being surprised. He also abuses You Didn't Ask for all it's worth; most importantly he studiously avoids explaining the actual mechanics of the deal he's offering so that the girls can deceive themselves with false assumptions.
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Villains Never Lie / int_141a7410	comment	In Over the Garden Wall, the climax depends on revealing that the Beast lied about something important: the lantern is his own Soul Jar, not the Woodsman's daughter's.
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Villains Never Lie / int_15463dde	comment	In Who Wants to Be a Superhero?, one challenge centers around a note left by Dr. Dark, which implies that one of the heroes is actually a spy. The heroes all then begin wondering who it is and discussing which amongst them is the most suspicious. Only Hygenia is smart enough to consider that Dr. Dark is just lying. This is pretty much the case, although he also isn't outright lying — the note says that one of the heroes could be a good spy, not that one of them actually is.
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Villains Never Lie / int_15c6ea92	comment	Wonder Woman (1987): While most of Diana's villains lie to an extent just to give Diana something to use the Lasso of Truth for, Ares would rather manipulate the truth to his whims, at least when dealing with Diana and other mortals, he's far more willing to stretch the truth completely out of shape when dealing with other gods. He also sticks to his oaths, even when they become inconvenient for him, though he tends to stick to the letter rather than the spirit of the oaths.
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Villains Never Lie / int_186da029	comment	In Borderlands 2, Handsome Jack will rarely tell an outright lie. He'll omit the truth and twist it, but he almost never tells a true lie... which makes the rare moments when he does it to your face all the sharper and uglier.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1a12bbee	comment	The Mighty Thor: Many heroes and villains have no problem believing what Loki says, even though he once called himself the God of Lies. He's not above using his reputation as an inveterate liar to use the truth to hurt those who don't believe him, too, though — and not listening to him is just inviting trouble too, as unfortunately for everybody, he does possess a great deal of knowledge and wisdom that could save lives.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1ae5eab5	comment	Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL: Kaito's main reason to help Dr. Faker collect the Numbers is that the latter promised him to cure his younger brother Haruto. For the viewers, Dr. Faker's appearance, name, the way he behaves, and that he's using Haruto to attack the Astral World are enough hints to make them distrust him and that Kaito is believing an obvious lie. Except all of that is a giant Red Herring. Dr. Faker is entirely motivated to save Haruto at all costs and he's not as evil as he seems. Since he's Kaito's and Haruto's father, he is the most trustworthy person they can rely on.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1bdeba5a	comment	X-Men: When intel given by Sabretooth turns out to be good, Gambit grudgingly admits that what he told them wasn't a lie. Psylocke says, "I've found that very little of what he has to say is, Remy. More often than not, they're unpleasant truths that we'd prefer not to hear."
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Villains Never Lie / int_1cc09117	comment	Bleach: During their fight in Karakura Town, Aizen waxes lyrically about how he has manipulated all of Ichigo's battles to develop his strength and power for Aizen's own gain. He even claims he has been manipulating Ichigo's life from the moment he was born. Ichigo notices that Aizen's words are contradicting what he said back on Soukyoku Hill, and accuses him of lying. Aizen points out that if he really is a liar, why would Ichigo trust anything he says to believe he was telling the truth back then and lying now; Ichigo should instead assume that Aizen has been lying constantly since the moment they met. When this sinks in for Ichigo, Aizen explains that he doesn't bother with lies or truth because truth is in the eye of the beholder: nothing Aizen says can ever be trusted. Later arcs prove that he was indeed responsible for Ichigo's Hollow powers, though it wasn't his initial plan, and was monitoring his progress. The rest remains up in the air. Played With during the Fullbringer arc, where XCution's plan to steal Ichigo's powers involves having their memories altered by Tsukushima so that they genuinely believed their cover story. So, while their ultimate plan was to train Ichigo to steal his powers, they weren't lying to Ichigo about Tsukushima being their enemy and wanting to take him down, because that's really what they wanted until Tsukushima gave them their memories back. And later, when Ginjou does steal (part of) Ichigo's powers, the other members (minus Tsukishima) confront him that they agreed to share Ichigo's power with each other, Ginjou holds his word...by cutting them first which is how they receive their power-ups. When Ichigo confronts Yhwach and asks him if he's the enemy leader, Yhwach at first tries a flimsy Non-Answer. When Ichigo loses his patience and asks him if he's the one who just razed Soul Society and reduced the Seireitei to a pile of rubble and corpses, however, Yhwach doesn't even bother denying it anymore and answers with a Blunt "Yes". Played with in that, at least from Yhwach's point of view, Ichigo is not his enemy since he is part Quincy. That being said, Yhwach is well aware that this kind of logic would not fly with Ichigo even if he did believe his claims, and so he attempts to kidnap Ichigo and forcibly recruit him into the Wandenreich's ranks after "re-educating" him. While "antagonist" would be more correct than calling him an outright villain, when Ichigo attempts to gain control of his Hollowfication and confronts his Inner Hollow within his inner world, he notices that Old Man Zangetsu is nowhere to be seen, and demands that his Inner Hollow tell him where he is. The answer? "I am Zangetsu". It's not until Ichigo learns of the circumstances behind his parents meeting and his eventual birth that he realizes his Inner Hollow was telling the truth all along (not that Ichigo can be blamed for dismissing it as a lie at the time): Aizen's experimental Hollow, dubbed "White", infected Masaki, a Quincy, and was passed on to Ichigo during pregnancy, whereupon it merged with the Shinigami powers he inherited from Isshin and assimilated with the part of his soul that would otherwise become the spirit of his Zanpakuto. As for "Old Man Zangetsu", he is the spiritual manifestation of the Quincy powers Ichigo inherited from Masaki, but since he, too, is a source of Ichigo's power, it's still accurate to call him Zangetsu. This is later reflected when, upon Ichigo having his Zanpakuto reforged, it becomes two different swords, each one representing his Shinigami and Quincy halves. At this point, Ichigo agrees that, indeed, they are both Zangetsu.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1dd9862b	comment	Played with in Danganronpa 3: The End of Hope's Peak High School. In episode 7 of Side: Future, Monaca Towa claims that one of the survivors of the 78th class's killing game will die because of Makoto Naegi. In episode 9, we learn she had found out everyone's NG codes, and that Kyoko Kirigiri's was "Pass the fourth time limit with Makoto Naegi alive." The fourth time limit passes, and Kirigiri is seemingly killed. However, Episode: Hope reveals that Kirigiri took some of Seiko Kimura's "Antagonist" medicine to slow the poisoning, allowing Mikan Tsumiki to save her. But Monaca had no idea of knowing this, so while she did tell what she believed to be the truth, it was not what actually ended up happening.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1e015a5d	comment	The Empire Strikes Back: Darth Vader telling Luke "No. I am your father." Luke's acceptance is justified by the Force, which allows a Jedi or Sith to divine the truth of a statement — Luke initially doesn't believe Vader, leading Vader to say, "Search your feelings; you know it to be true!" and Luke still remains skeptical enough to ask Yoda point-blank in Return of the Jedi to confirm it. According to George Lucas, after a discussion with a psychologist, he learned that most people would automatically assume that Vader was lying, and was trying to trick Luke somehow; notably, Vader's own voice actor thought that this was the case. He added the scene with Yoda confirming it to convince both Luke and the audience that Vader was in fact being truthful.
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Villains Never Lie / int_1ef8b483	comment	The bad guys in Duel Savior Destiny tend to be a lot more honest about what's actually going on than the good guys who know the full story. Knowing the truth is rather destabilizing and can lead to some serious issues, so the good guys withhold crucial information, such as the fact that they should never allow the Messiah to come into being.
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Villains Never Lie / int_2139ea95	comment	In Magia Record: Puella Magi Madoka Magica Side Story, Ui and her friends investigate the magical girl and Witch phenomena in-depth, looking up various suicides and deaths in the city that could be related. In the end, they interview Kyubey for a whole afternoon. It goes on its usual way of withholding key facts and using Exact Words. Because of the investigation, however, they are able to deduce that magical girls become Witches. Later on, they use Kyubey's Exact Words against him, stealing his power to collect grief, transform it into energy, and materialize it in the universe to fight entropy. This allowed them to create the Doppel System. He might have held back the truth about Witches, but didn't expect them to use the rest of his exposition to their advantage.
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Villains Never Lie / int_2212773a	comment	Angel: Although it's only mentioned in an episode commentary, Holtz didn't lie, manipulative as he was. He considered himself to be on the side of right, after all. Angelus, too. Wesley even warns the team that Angelus will try to hurt and manipulate them using the truth (and twist it a bit), but he'll rarely outright lie. He does this and is successful in turning them against each other. The heroes take evil brain doctor Dr. Sparrow at his word when he claims that Fred's soul was destroyed when Illyria was resurrected in her body. The comics show that he was lying. After Illyria is at ground zero of the Seed of Wonder being restored at the climax of Buffy Season 9, Fred comes back to life, albeit with her and Illyria Sharing a Body.
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Villains Never Lie / int_22147342	comment	Arrow: Zig-zagged in "Deathstroke". After Slade tells Laurel that Oliver is the Arrow, she remains suspicious, aware that Slade has been deceptive before, but takes the time to investigate his claims and confirms it herself. Played completely straight in "The Magician". Malcolm denies having anything to do with Sara's murder. Oliver believes him without question, and actually places him under his protection from the League of Assassins (smoothly ignoring the literal hundreds of murders he is guilty of). Nyssa is utterly disgusted by this and remains convinced that Malcolm is the one who did it. She's right.
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Villains Never Lie / int_23b84765	comment	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King: Frodo believes Gollum rather than Samwise when Gollum claims that Samwise ate the last of their food. Of course, it's suggested that the Ring's influence was clouding his judgement. Defied by Aragorn. The Mouth of Sauron claims that Frodo and Sam were tortured and killed, producing Frodo's mythril vest as "proof". The rest of the Fellowship is distraught at the news, which the Mouth clearly enjoys, while Aragorn calmly rides up to the emissary and chops its head right the hell off.
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Villains Never Lie / int_25f6f1a0	comment	Umineko: When They Cry features the red text. Anything said with it is always true, and if you try to lie with it, you will choke. The red text can only be used by the witches, or anyone granted the power to speak the red truth. Naturally, the ones to use it are the witches trying to force Battler to surrender and accept them.
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Villains Never Lie / int_28508de	comment	Valtor from Winx Club claims to Bloom that he killed Oritel and Marion. Later he says to her that he absorbed them both into his body. Bloom initially believes him both times. He lied both times. The Three Ancient Witches locked them up in the Obsidian Dimension.
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Villains Never Lie / int_291e9857	comment	In Dark Souls, Lautrec of Carim is a very shifty, amoral fellow with goals that don't quite match with yours, but he remains completely on the level with the player.
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Villains Never Lie / int_298a47a9	comment	Subverted in The Big Lebowski, as the title character refuses to even entertain the idea that the people claiming to have kidnapped his wife may be lying, although our hero, The Dude, certainly speculates on the possibility. The Dude turns out to be right, and it turns out that the only reason Lebowski was so credulous was so he could embezzle the ransom money.
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Villains Never Lie / int_29f0502c	comment	In Dracula Untold, a pre-vampire Dracula is desperate to save his kingdom and family from the wrath of the Ottoman Empire, so desperate he goes to a cursed cave that keeps a vampire prisoner. Once Dracula meets the vampire (played by Charles Dance), he begs to be turned into a vampire himself, so he can use the power to save everything he loves. The vampire reveals all the consequences and tragedies that will befall Dracula if he accepts and even explains that if Dracula feeds on human blood, not only will he become a vampire permanently, but this will also free the elder vampire from the cave and he will become a blight across the land once again; but if Dracula can resist feeding for three days, he will regain his humanity and the vampire will remain imprisoned. Dracula asks why the vampire is being so truthful, and the vampire responds that it's because the truth is so much worse than any lie he could tell.
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Villains Never Lie / int_30a5ebfd	comment	Naruto: Hey, Sasuke, guess what? Itachi's actually a good guy! At least with that one, he checks his facts when he could. Granted, this was about 75 chapters later and he'd been under the assumption Tobi was telling the truth for all that time. One of Tobi's claims is later proven false — he was actually responsible for the Nine-Tailed Fox's attack. Then again, he was pretending to be Madara at the time, which would make his claim Metaphorically True. One of the more outstanding examples was Tobi revealing his evil plan to the four Kages and their retainers. It involved merging all known Tailed Beasts into another one, the Ten-Tails, and using it to project his genjutsu to the moon and trapping the entire humanity with it. Everyone believes him without realizing that if this is actually what he intends to do, he sabotaged himself by revealing it. Orochimaru actually inverts this trope. When he goes to Tsunade for help and she asks him about his arms, he openly admits to killing the Third Hokage, even though it would hurt his chances of her helping him. He also openly admits he wants to destroy the Leaf Village but appears to decide to spare it when Tsunade asks him to as a condition for healing his arms. However, when Tsunade's treachery becomes apparent to him, he admits he was lying. "Madara"'s identity is a fourth wall-piercing example. Many readers never questioned his identity simply because he stated he's Madara and other characters believed him. That and hints to his actual identity were thought to be an obvious Red Herring, until the real Madara turned up.
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Villains Never Lie / int_32c541e6	comment	Fullmetal Alchemist: The Butcher Serial Killer Barry the Chopper is one of the rare "making it up for the giggles" examples: He uses an entirely improvised Hannibal Lecture on Al, and Al falls for it in all three versions of the story. Justified in the 2003 anime, where Alphonse is shown to be questioning his existence for several episodes beforehand, and Barry just happened to get lucky with the subject matter. In the manga, however, it is not foreshadowed, and it leads to an outright Out-of-Character Moment for Alphonse. He doesn't dwell on it for as long as his anime counterpart, however. Played straight with Greed, who insists that his policy is to never tell a lie. Later, he utters his first and last lie in order to trick Prince Ling into letting him commit a Heroic Sacrifice. Kimblee wears many masks to conceal his psychopathy, but he never tells a direct untruth. For example, when he is talking to Winry, he tells her about finding her parents' bodies and says that he admired their efforts and would have liked to meet them when they were alive. Sure, he was trying to make sure that she would trust him, but every word he said to her was genuinely true. He conveniently left out the part where he had been ordered to execute them and was disappointed that somebody else killed them before he had the chance.
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Villains Never Lie / int_3651bc0c	comment	The Princess and the Frog: In "Friends on the Other Side", Doctor Facilier does a reading for Prince Naveen and Lawrence, where he accurately outlines their problems (Naveen's parents want him to get married but he doesn't want to be tied down, and Lawrence is sick of being pushed around) and his intended solutions to them, but he manipulates the scene so that Naveen assumes that the "green" Facilier offers is money when he actually means to literally turn Naveen green by transforming him into a frog. Lawrence gets a better deal as he's offered to be made "exactly the man he's always wanted to be", which turns out to mean being transformed into Naveen via an amulet.
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Villains Never Lie / int_37ea664b	comment	Discussed by Madrox in X-Factor, who trusts villains more than his friends, because they're usually too arrogant to hide malicious intent.
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Villains Never Lie / int_39fe00f1	comment	Dragon Age: Inquisition: The Grey Wardens never stop to consider that Livius Erimond just might be misleading them about what those blood magic rituals and demon summonings were for. He later plays this trope straight when he claims that he didn't use any brainwashing to get what he wanted. Cole will confirm that the only thing motivating his victims were their own fears and terrible judgement. Discussed and defied in a conversation about the Big Bad's explanation of his past. After reaching Skyhold, the Inquisitor can point out that what Corypheus says about entering the Black City and what the Chant of Light says are similar, but do not match completely. Giselle will remark that, while the Chantry is a tool of men and might have erred in speaking of it, that doesn't mean Corypheus is right and truthful. He might well be choosing to remember things in a manner more flattering to himself, or have confused memories after being sealed away for a thousand years.
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Villains Never Lie / int_3aabfec3	comment	An often-parodied weakness of Captain Planet and the Planeteers is that the supporting cast always seems to fall for the villains' deceptions, despite their conspicuous names and menacing appearances. Best summed up by The Nostalgia Critic:
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Villains Never Lie / int_3b88d68c	comment	The Divine Comedy: It's understandable wanting directions on your trek through the burning tar pits of the Malebolge, but Virgil would have been wiser to buy a map rather than seeking guidance from the local devils who run said burning tar pits of, etc., etc. Naturally, those devils deliberately send Virgil down a dead end, try to attack him, and send him tumbling into the next Circle of Hell. The rest of the damned love rubbing this in Virgil's face for the rest of the descent.
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Villains Never Lie / int_3ccfa555	comment	During Dahlia's final cross-examination in Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney â€“ Trials and Tribulations, nobody doubts that she's telling the truth because a) she's dead and has nothing to lose from honesty, and b) telling the truth will screw over Morgan, so she'll do it out of spite. However, while Dahlia isn't actively lying, she is making incorrect assumptions about the crime; she never knew that Godot was present, and she didn't know Maya was channeling her in the courtroom.
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Villains Never Lie / int_3defe34c	comment	Discussed in PS238 here, where a character mentions that she can trust a magical villain not to lie if he's making an official oath.
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Villains Never Lie / int_3e374b30	comment	In The Dark Knight Rises, only John Blake is seen doubting Bane when he reads Gordon's speech about the true nature of Harvey Dent, until Gordon admits that Bane's telling the truth. However, since no one else is seen reacting to the confession and it never comes up again in the film, it's possible that others didn't believe it.
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Villains Never Lie / int_41b0198a	comment	The Dresden Files: Sometimes justified when dealing with either the denizens of Faerie or certain other supernaturals who have made promises. Faeries can't lie and most supernaturals invest a lot in their promises and will not break them lightly. Of course, that only binds them to their word. Fae are simply unable to tell an outright falsehood, but many know not to trust them since that doesn't quite preclude being deceptive, dishonest, or manipulative, and they've had ages to learn how to abuse technical truths. Also, they are bound only to the word of their agreements while being willing to break the spirit if it suits them; a faerie who promises it will "protect you from danger to your life" may break your back and both your legs and dump you in a hospital to keep you from being in actual danger of death. Dresden is quick to learn that the Order of the Blackened Denarius will always lie, and thus is extremely wary about trusting anything they say. Harry's experiences have actually made him pretty good at never taking what villains tell him at face value... unless the villain happens to be a vulnerable woman. That tends to skew his rationality, a flaw he fully acknowledges. He's gotten better about that, to his somewhat-justified disgust. The fact that the members of the Sidhe are known to be unable to outright lie becomes a key plot point in Cold Days. When Harry realizes that Maeve, the Winter Lady, freely gave information without the usual Faerie obfuscation, he gets suspicious, and then realizes that Maeve had been "infected" by Nemesis, a sentient and infectious form of madness, which turned her to the cause of the Outsiders and gave her the ability to lie. Since so few people know about Nemesis, and since the Sidhe are known to always tell the truth, this meant Maeve could lie freely to many people and they would have no reason to disbelieve her.
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Villains Never Lie / int_431f7ab9	comment	The Kingkiller Chronicle: The Cthaeh is noted to never lie. But being The Omniscient, it knows some Awful Truths indeed, and will specifically aim for the worst and most destructive revelations it can tell to its interlocutor, not just for them but for the world at large. It specifically angles to steer history down the worst path a singular conversation can manage.
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Villains Never Lie / int_43576f5	comment	Supernatural: In "On the Head of a Pin", Alastair tells Dean that Dean accidentally broke the first seal when he agreed to torture souls in Hell and made the Apocalypse possible. Dean is initially unsure whether this is true, but Castiel confirms that the prophecy Alastair described is real and does in fact refer to Dean. Lucifer states in "Sympathy for the Devil" that "Contrary to popular belief, I don't lie. I don't need to." He does in fact lie in later seasons, though. At the end of "Do You Believe in Miracles?", Crowley says, "I might not have told you the entire truth. But I never lied."
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Villains Never Lie / int_43b03992	comment	In Faust, Mephistopheles surprises the doctor by telling him that hell has laws and that, therefore, he can be trusted to hold up his end of the bargain. The quintessential feature of such a deal is that the devil figure either twists the terms of the agreement to subvert their intended effect or brings about some change that renders the benefit he confers undesirable — not that he breaks the agreement outright. Without this trope — played straight, mind you — this effect couldn't be achieved.
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Villains Never Lie / int_43da6f7f	comment	Memento: Teddy tells Leonard that Leonard killed his own wife with an insulin injection, and now he continues to search for a new murderer time and again in order to have some meaning to his life. We don't know if Teddy is really a villain, or whether he says the truth or not, but this is the second-to-last scene (or is it the second scene?), so we tend to believe him. Not to mention the whole self-manipulation twist-ending.
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Villains Never Lie / int_46aac2a3	comment	Elden Ring: In the current state of the Lands Between, none of the really evil factions see the need to deceive you or hide what they're doing. It helps that most of them honestly believe they're doing the right thing. None of the Frenzied Flame's followers will ever lie to you. They're out to burn everything, and they make that very clear. However, Shabriri is also truthful when he says that you'll have to commit a terrible injustice, that being letting your companion Melina sacrifice herself, to become Elden Lord normally, and that the Frenzied Flame will allow you to avert it. The Volcano Manor makes no bones about their path being "tainted" and don't deny their purpose is blasphemous. It's just that, given the Golden Order's undeniable flaws, there are several people who see that as a positive. One of the Volcano Manor's Recusants will even try to dissuade you from joining for your own safety. One thing you can say about the Dung Eater is that he is completely honest about his intentions. He wants to defile everything, he'll tell you how he plans to defile everything, and his questline opens up an ending where everything gets defiled. If you take that ending, you know what you're getting into.
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Villains Never Lie / int_4878b574	comment	In A Song of Ice, Fire and Heart, Vanitas visits King Robert on his deathbed to torment the man with the knowledge that his beloved Lyanna never loved him and actually eloped with Rhaegar because she couldn't stand her betrothed, musing it's a waste to lie when the truth is much more painful to hear.
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Villains Never Lie / int_49a87cb3	comment	Final Fantasy VII's legendary Mind Screw was initiated by one of these. Cloud actually does insist that Sephiroth is lying when he says Cloud isn't who he thinks he is, but since his own version of events isn't right either, and thus there is evidence even in his own memory that seems to support the even more false but still truth-tinted alternative, the doubts eventually overcome him.
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Villains Never Lie / int_49a88442	comment	Final Fantasy XIV: At the end of the 2.0 storyline for A Realm Reborn, Gaius' speech at the final of Praetorium was often interpreted by fans as either false-but-sincere opinions on the state of Eorzea, or as deliberate lies to confuse the heroes. Ignoring the part of Gaius' own leviathanic megalomaniacal visions on leadership, the remaining half of the speech rang true: In patch 2.4 and the arrival of both Shiva, the official anniversary short stories and The Coils of Bahamut raid, the players would learn that, indeed, the Eorzean gods as called upon Carteneau by Louisoux are no different than those of the beasts — eikons every one! Further, Louisoix did so because he lacked the strength or vision to do otherwise, but this is a rather hypocritical jab since the Empire intended to deploy Bahamut, an eikon, against Eorzea in the first place. It's also more than a little hypocritical because Gaius himself is exploiting eikons to power the Ultima Weapon—without them, it would be a dangerous mecha, not a superweapon. This is further complicated by events from the much later patch 6.1, in which we learn that the Twelve really do seem to exist, independently, and they repeatedly insist that they are not primals, but refuse to give any further information about their origin. It's even speculated that Ramuh could be the Sylph interpretation of Rhalgr, and thus Gaius may have had it backwards, that is, the "eikons" might actually be species-specific interpretations of one of the Twelve. In Shadowbringers, the Ascian Emet-Selch occasionally visits the party, offering dubious information or challenging old assumptions. As it turns out, nearly everything he says is completely true. It's just almost always told with extreme bias, full of massive omissions, or full of deceptive leading statements or impossible but plausible-sounding conditions. The greater irony, however, is that the story of Shadowbringers reveals that Emet-Selch wasn't the only one: both Lahabrea's crazed ranting and Elidibus' doomsaying were completely true, from an Ascian perspective, and not even particularly deceptive, we just didn't have enough information to understand what they were actually saying at the time.
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Villains Never Lie / int_4f2cea52	comment	In The Golden Compass, Mrs. Coulter is the one to tell Lyra who her parents are.
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Villains Never Lie / int_4fd9904a	comment	In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Harry assumes that the vision he has of Voldemort torturing Sirius (which is basically him seeing what Voldemort is seeing) is actually happening, despite the fact that he had been warned by Snape that Voldemort knew about their mental bond and might feed him fake images. Of course, that's the one. In Deathly Hallows, Pansy Parkinson is one of very few who actually believes Voldemort when he says that he won't hurt anyone if they hand over Harry. Fortunately, no one else listens to her and have her taken from the school grounds.
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Villains Never Lie / int_50bcf7a6	comment	Doc Scratch from Homestuck never lies. Interestingly, as he is an omniscient being, he is also never wrong. Everything he says, taken purely at face value, is completely factual. He chooses not to lie because he considers it beneath him. And you have to admit that if you could tell your opponent what your moves will be and still win the game, you'd do it too. The only falsehoods he allows himself to utter are harmless "jokes" because a joke must by definition have a punchline, which will also reveal the deception, cancelling the lie out. However, he claims that "lying by omission" is a false concept (read: he does it all the time because he doesn't consider it lying) and is the undisputed master of Exact Words. He manages to con the heroes into believing they are destroying the Green Sun, when in fact they are creating it — and, by extension, Scratch's master, the time-traveling, universe-eating demon Lord English. Of course, essential as the creation of the Sun was, it was also kind of moot since he is already here. All without telling a single lie.
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Villains Never Lie / int_526d4c5c	comment	In Knights of the Old Republic, a dying Admiral Karath whispers the game's major plot twist to Carth in hopes of shaking him up a little. Carth, naturally, immediately turns to Bastila and yells, "You knew! You and the whole damned Jedi Council!" Bastila actually confirms it as soon as he says this, though, so he was actually right to be mistrustful — and the circumstances leading to said revelation already heavily foreshadowed this to the player. And depending on how you answer an inquiry a little further on, you can confirm the same truth as well. There is also a wealth of evidence that Carth is an untrained Force-Sensitive, which can come with low-level Living Lie Detector abilities.
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Villains Never Lie / int_556d8583	comment	In Fever Dreams, Light tells the investigators that he is constantly being watched and guarded by two Shinigami; one keeps constant watch over him and threatens him every time he steps out of line, and the other, a Shinigami that likes apples, drops in regularly to takes reports from the one guarding him. He then lets them come to their own conclusions about his involvement in the Kira case.
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Villains Never Lie / int_564871a	comment	Blue Bloods: A Serial Killer who's been taunting Danny all season 6 informs him that he's going after his family. He rushes home and is confused to see that Linda and the boys are okay — "Why did he lie? He never lies. He said he was going after my family, and he always does what he says." That is, until the FBI agent he's working with reminds him of the guy's MO — "18-22-year-old females" — and he realizes that his niece Nicky is the target.
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Villains Never Lie / int_567ff89	comment	In The 6th Day, the villain tells Adam Gibson that he's really the clone, and Adam just laughs him off until the villain gives his proof.
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Villains Never Lie / int_56dce3c1	comment	In Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Ego the Living Planet consistently restricts himself to lies of omission when talking to Peter Quill. For example, he has no problem telling Peter that he genuinely loved Peter's mother... but it's only when Peter is getting Drunk on the Dark Side that he lets slip that he ensured Meredith Quill's terminal brain tumour because he felt that love threatened his commitment to his Evil Plan.
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Villains Never Lie / int_5755b96a	comment	The Order of the Stick: During the "Soul Splice" story arc, Vaarsuvius makes a Deal with the Devil with a trio of archfiends, who offer V vast amounts of power in order to save his/her family from a vengeful dragon, in exchange for temporary custody of their soul, based on the amount of time they choose to retain the power. The fiends in question are being completely fair and honest, even going so far as to point out that there is an alternative — although this would require V to admit that they had failed. Although the soul splice doesn't actually turn Varsuvius evil, black cloak and glowing eyes notwithstanding, absolute power still corrupts... It should be pointed out that Director Lee, the devil, is kind of required to give an alternative. See, infernal pacts in D&D only work if the metaphorical Faust is given a choice. If the deal is made under duress, Vaarsuvius could challenge the deal in a diabolical court in the Nine Hells. Since diabolic courts are somewhat fair (they are beings of pure law and evil, after all), Vaarsuvius could wriggle their way out of the deal and possibly get the commission scrapped by whatever archdevil approved of it. The fiends, however, exploit Vaarsuvius' ego in order to ensure they would pick the option the fiends wanted them to pick. And they told the exact truth the whole time. Also played with in that same story arc. The fiends tell Vaarsuvius "You may be experiencing some slight feedback. You know, alignment-wise", and "Do not let them influence your actions! YOU are the one in control!" The last sentence of that is entirely true. The other three are half-true at best. All together, though, it implies the reverse. Thus, Vaarsuvius assumes they aren't in control of themself, and, as one of the fiends later points out, "A good way to get a decent person to do something horrible is to convince them that they're not responsible for their actions." Horrible indeed... Also subverted in an unexpected way: While the alternative they presented could have worked as far as V knew, it was based on their incorrect assumption about the current location of the party's healer. Had V pursued that course, they would have accomplished nothing more than suicide. The fiends presented it as part of full disclosure in order to legitimize the contract; V was making a free-willed choice without any lies on their part. As far as V knew, this other option would have worked and not required any obligation to the Fiends. In any case, they knew V would never accept the alternative plan as presented because it would require admitting defeat and failure to use someone else's plan to get other people to save V's family. It gets even better later. They said they'd get custody of V's soul for the same length of time as V used the power. V (and probably most of the readers) assumed they'd do it at V's death, but they never actually specified a time. One of them chooses to do it when V desperately needs to get a message to the rest of the party. V had actually worked out that the price as they understood it didn't really make sense, since their actions during the effects had already earned an eternity of damnation on their own.
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Villains Never Lie / int_59140854	comment	Jessica Jones (2015): Played with for Dr. Karl Malus in season 2. When Jessica confronts him with the fact that Jeri Hogarth is trying to use Shane Ryback's healing powers to save herself, he insists that he never created a healer, let alone performed experiments on someone named Shane. As it turns out, Shane is indeed a fraud who is manipulating Jeri. In general, though, while Karl rarely tells direct lies, he tends to leave important information unsaid and hides incriminating material.
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Villains Never Lie / int_5b3356f8	comment	In the Turning Red fic Turning Red: Secrets of the Panda, almost everything Howard Mitchell says is the truth, with his only "lie" being his disguise as Xia's assistant.
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Villains Never Lie / int_5c66fff9	comment	Myrkul in Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer when talking to Kaelyn. The main character can even lampshade it. The trope is subverted in your own case, however: what Myrkul tells you in the same conversation later turns out to be a complete lie.
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Villains Never Lie / int_5ce3fc86	comment	This would be why Maka fell for Medusa's emotional blackmail in the Baba Yaga arc of Soul Eater when she hears that, apparently, the witch is a mother who would do anything to protect her child. She wouldn't have even needed to explicitly mention Spirit but does so simply to drive the point home. It works like a charm and isn't the first or last time Maka's caught out by something of the sort.
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Villains Never Lie / int_5db577ba	comment	In The Dark Knight, the Joker repeatedly states that he's "a man of [his] word" and is constantly believed. However, he's an expert at making people assume he's saying one thing when he means another (he convinces Harvey that he doesn't plan ahead by saying comparing himself to a dog who chases cars without knowing what he'd do if he caught one — note that he never says he doesn't have plans, just no idea what to do afterwards), and is not above lying purely to mess with people (see his multiple stories about how he got his scars). When he pulls his Sadistic Choice of getting to either Harvey or Rachel before their bombs go off, he switches the locations of the two hostages, resulting in Rachel's death.
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Villains Never Lie / int_6053d9f9	comment	In Silent Hill, a lot of the vital information concerning what the hell is going on is given to the player character by people who are less than inclined to be honest with you: In Silent Hill, Harry gets played for an Unwitting Pawn by Dahlia the whole game, and he believes her until the point where Dahlia reveals that Cheryl is actually Alessa. Silent Hill 3 gives us this terrible, awful question from Vincent: "Monsters? They look like monsters to you?" When Heather reacts with horror, he claims that he was kidding, but damn. The Reveal in Silent Hill: Homecoming that Alex was never in the army is given through his father. Even on this very wiki, the debate continues.
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Villains Never Lie / int_616d06a5	comment	Army of Two: As The 40th Day draws to a close, Salem and Rios have Jonah cornered; Jonah promptly tells them he's sitting on a nuke that will wipe out half the city if it goes off, but, keeping with the social-experiment theme of his actions, he'll disarm it if Salem or Rios kills the other instead of him. As is likely easy to guess despite the spoiler tag, there's no nuke.
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Villains Never Lie / int_61a39969	comment	In Avengers: Infinity War, Thanos claims to his adopted daughter Gamora that while he taught her all she knows about being a powerful warrior, he never taught her to lie. This is why he thinks she does such a bad job of it when she is questioned about the location of the Soul Stone.
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Villains Never Lie / int_62f94c6	comment	The Dark Knight Trilogy: In The Dark Knight, the Joker repeatedly states that he's "a man of [his] word" and is constantly believed. However, he's an expert at making people assume he's saying one thing when he means another (he convinces Harvey that he doesn't plan ahead by saying comparing himself to a dog who chases cars without knowing what he'd do if he caught one — note that he never says he doesn't have plans, just no idea what to do afterwards), and is not above lying purely to mess with people (see his multiple stories about how he got his scars). When he pulls his Sadistic Choice of getting to either Harvey or Rachel before their bombs go off, he switches the locations of the two hostages, resulting in Rachel's death. In The Dark Knight Rises, only John Blake is seen doubting Bane when he reads Gordon's speech about the true nature of Harvey Dent, until Gordon admits that Bane's telling the truth. However, since no one else is seen reacting to the confession and it never comes up again in the film, it's possible that others didn't believe it.
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Villains Never Lie / int_68ff28c8	comment	In Silent Hill, Harry gets played for an Unwitting Pawn by Dahlia the whole game, and he believes her until the point where Dahlia reveals that Cheryl is actually Alessa.
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Villains Never Lie / int_691be369	comment	One episode of The X-Files has Mulder rather uncharacteristically instantly trusting someone he's never met before about some new information on the alien conspiracy. Scully even calls him on it: "What happened to 'trust no one?'" Mulder replies "I changed it to 'trust everyone.' Didn't I tell you?" Agent Mulder often has two conflicting ideals to choose between: "Trust No One" and "I Want to Believe". In this case, Mulder wants to believe that the character is part of a Government Conspiracy, feeding into both of those ideals at once.
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Villains Never Lie / int_69d15cc0	comment	Marvel Cinematic Universe: Across Daredevil (2015), Iron Fist (2017) and The Defenders (2017), Madame Gao prides herself in always telling the truth and she is extremely apt at using it to mess with people's heads. Daredevil (2015): In season 3, Wilson Fisk gets Ray Nadeem wrapped around his thumb by feeding him a constant stream of reliable information about other criminals... who conveniently happen to have corrupt connections that Fisk wants to take for himself. Once he's certain Nadeem has been thoroughly manipulated, Fisk sends Nadeem and the rest of the FBI after Matt Murdock, claiming that Matt used to work for him (which is partially true, since he had James Wesley hire Nelson & Murdock to defend one of his hitmen). Nadeem doesn't stop to think that this conflicts with public records that show that Nelson & Murdock was instrumental in sending Fisk to prison, simply because Fiskâ€™s testimony on other things has proven itself to be reliable up to this point. He does come to realize Matt is innocent and Fisk is a liar after Jasper Evans is killed while preparing to claim that Fisk paid him to shank him, but by this point, Nadeem is in too deep with Fisk to get out. Jessica Jones (2015): Played with for Dr. Karl Malus in season 2. When Jessica confronts him with the fact that Jeri Hogarth is trying to use Shane Ryback's healing powers to save herself, he insists that he never created a healer, let alone performed experiments on someone named Shane. As it turns out, Shane is indeed a fraud who is manipulating Jeri. In general, though, while Karl rarely tells direct lies, he tends to leave important information unsaid and hides incriminating material.
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Villains Never Lie / int_6ac55ec7	comment	Dungeons & Dragons: This is the shtick of Devils, since they're embodiments of Lawful Evil. They're fully capable of lying when they want to, but they prefer to stick to being misleading. After all, can't close a deal if nobody trusts you to stick to your end. Absolutely no devilish contract will contain an outright falsehood. This is actually enforced by diabolic courts, so if a mortal feels that the contract is illegal (i.e., the devil promised something they weren't able to give, changed the contract without the mortal's consent, et cetera) and can successfully argue their case, they can dissolve the contract and leave without paying the devil anything. This tends to piss off the superiors of the devil in question, so devils would like to avoid it if at all possible. Asmodeus lies freely and often, but his latest mortal business venture in 5e is a straight example of this trope: He opens churches in his own name with the promise of his worshippers being given a leg up in the ladder of devilish promotion once they die- something that good religions can't counter because it's absolutely true.
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Villains Never Lie / int_6b681688	comment	Discussed in Batman (Tom King) in the Everyone Loves Ivy arc. Having cornered Poison Ivy, who's taken over the world through mind-control by now, the heroes discover that the whole thing was instigated by Ivy killing six people for the Riddler at the start of Batman's career, and feeling deep guilt over it. As it turns out, Riddler killed those people himself and made Ivy believe she'd done it.
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Villains Never Lie / int_6f1bcb62	comment	The Black Knight in Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance told Ike the truth about his armor and how to penetrate it, and Ike believed him. Somewhat of an inversion, in that the Black Knight was actually telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in that instance. He does this because he likes to have interesting fights. Invincible armor takes the thrill away...
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Villains Never Lie / int_701f0ece	comment	Berserk: Ubik, one of the four (later, five) members of the God Hand always tells the truth. Unfortunately, in this world the truth is always pretty damn depressing, and he's an absolute expert at framing the truth in the worst possible light and focusing on the subject's worst moments. That's why he does so well at breaking people's wills with words alone.
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Villains Never Lie / int_7149a731	comment	At the climax of Wonder Woman (2017), Diana is quick to throw the Lasso of Truth around Ares, but that doesn't slow him down one bit as he gives her a Break Them by Talking lecture about how Humans Are Bastards (and We Can Rule Together). Since she's been holding such a black-and-white view (humans were supposed to be good while Ares was responsible for the Great War), it's enough for him to tell her that humans were largely responsible for all the atrocities she's seen. It threatens to lead her to the same conclusions as him.
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Villains Never Lie / int_72262aee	comment	Avatar: The Last Airbender. For some reason, Zuko believes Azula when she offers him the chance to join her to take over Ba Sing Se. This is despite his trustworthy uncle berating him for this, and her having explicitly betrayed him in the first episode of the season. AND despite his childhood litany to himself — "Azula always lies." Despite this, however, this is one of the few times where she's being fully honest. Probably more for her own convenience, but she shows no intention whatsoever of betraying him... until he inadvertently informs her that Aang survived her attempt to kill him, at which point she carefully sets Zuko up to take the credit for Aang's death and thus the blame if the truth ever becomes public.
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Villains Never Lie / int_73233545	comment	Gideon the Ninth: Cytherea, after being unveiled as the murderer, claims to have never once lied to anyone, instead misleading them all with double meanings and hypotheticals and then letting them draw their own conclusions. It's not clear why she sees the need to do this since she's only there in the first place because she murdered and impersonated another character and has been free to spin as many lies as she wants to shore up her disguise, other than her own amusement.
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Villains Never Lie / int_74f7210c	comment	The Legend of Zelda: In the New Game Plus for The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, the "Hero's New Clothes" that Link receives at the beginning are said to be invisible to all but the honest, with everyone else seeing his starting Island clothes instead. Ganondorf, however, can see the clothes just fine. In The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, a strange-looking girl tells him that she and her sisters are all being held captive on the Ghost Ship and of course they don't know where Tetra is, but could he please rescue them all? Of course, most players are probably suspicious of this all from the start, but gameplay insists.
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Villains Never Lie / int_75149ccd	comment	X-Wing Series: The Director of Imperial Intelligence, Ysanne Isard, averts this. Corran Horn falls into her clutches believing that Tycho was her agent and had betrayed him. Isard never actually tells her victim that this is so, but several times she seems to confirm his belief. Really Tycho was innocent, but Corran doesn't learn this until he finds out during his escape. Telling him that he'd gotten an innocent man put on trial for his own murder, and Tycho was quite likely to be declared guilty and executed, would have given Corran massive guilt, but Isard wanted to use his anger.
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Villains Never Lie / int_77582c7b	comment	In X-Men: Days of Future Past, '70s Erik claims he's never lied to Raven while manipulating her towards his cause.
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Villains Never Lie / int_7988cb68	comment	Some in the Mass Effect fandom have taken this approach where Morinth is concerned. After Shepard kills Samara in cold blood, Morinth claims that her mother was "tyrannical" and "a monster" and deserved to die, along with the statement that she'll never pose Shepard any threat, and for some reason, a few people have taken this and a few other of her lies at face value. This includes the lie that Shepard would be safe if he/she and Morinth decided to meld, which has been proven to be wrong.
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Villains Never Lie / int_79a5c5e0	comment	In Twilight (2005), Bella completely believes James when he tells her that he's holding her mom captive. In her defense, they had the conversation over the phone, and he used the audio from a home movie he stole from her mom's house.
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Villains Never Lie / int_7aaf9e41	comment	Batman: The Joker never lies to get out of punishment — he'll lie to throw someone off balance, or as part of a Gambit Roulette, or just because he finds it's funny, but he never denies his crimes in court or when Batman confronts him with them. He uses this to convince Batman that it's Not Me This Time in The Brave and the Bold #191 , pointing out that he always takes credit for his work. Discussed in Batman (Tom King) in the Everyone Loves Ivy arc. Having cornered Poison Ivy, who's taken over the world through mind-control by now, the heroes discover that the whole thing was instigated by Ivy killing six people for the Riddler at the start of Batman's career, and feeling deep guilt over it. As it turns out, Riddler killed those people himself and made Ivy believe she'd done it.
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Villains Never Lie / int_847a1ace	comment	Attack of the Clones: Count Dooku tells Obi-Wan plainly that the Senate is controlled by a Sith Lord named Darth Sidious. Yoda and Mace Windu assume he's just trying to create mistrust and divisions between the Senate and the Jedi. Then Windu is shocked to learn that Palpatine is the second Sith in Revenge of the Sith. Of course, Dooku doesn't bother to mention that he's a Sith Lord and Sidious's apprentice no less, which makes it a lie by omission as well: with the benefit of hindsight, he was clearly hoping to recruit Obi-Wan to the Banite Sith Order as his own apprentice in preparation for overthrowing Sidious to become the Master himself.
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Villains Never Lie / int_85eced19	comment	Love & Pies: Despite Amelia refusing to believe her, her rival Edwina makes it clear that she knew the former's mother Freya in school, and she's not as innocent as Amelia believes since she used to do anything to beat Edwina, even with dirty tactics. Amelia then starts questioning if Edwina was right after discovering that Freya was the infamous thief, The Purple Fox. When Amelia confronts Edwina's father Sebastian for being the corrupt CEO of his company, he apologizes for hearing that and admits to her that he never hid his identity and has been always open with her.
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Villains Never Lie / int_85eecea0	comment	Played with in The Garden of Sinners. When Shirazumi says that Shiki is the killer, it's outed immediately as a lie. However, when Shirazumi says that Shiki's beloved is dead, which as far as the viewer knows is true, Shiki takes it on slim evidence. She did not see the body.
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Villains Never Lie / int_88fcaa31	comment	Subverted in the Sleepwalker comics published by Marvel in the 1990s with Big Bad Cobweb and Rick Sheridan. Cobweb blatantly lies about Sleepwalker's true nature to Rick, as part of his Evil Plan to invade Earth and frame Sleepwalker as leader of the invasion. To his credit, Rick doesn't believe him until Cobweb "proves" his claims by showing how Sleepwalker supposedly killed him, distorting the truth of what really happened.
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Villains Never Lie / int_89ce309d	comment	In Macbeth, all of the witches' prophecies are true, but the things they say are meant to manipulate their listeners into evil by putting ideas in their heads. They say that Macbeth will be Thane of Cawdor? Next scene, he gets the message that he's been made Thane of Cawdor after the previous Thane was executed. This is why Macbeth starts thinking about killing King Duncan — after all, the witches weren't lying about the Thaneship, maybe they weren't lying that he'd become king. Their second set of prophecies is equally accurate — Macbeth should beware Macduff because Macduff fulfilled the No Man of Woman Born criteria to kill him. Macbeth's the one who decided to make it a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy by killing Macduff's family and giving Macduff a reason to join Malcolm's rebellion.
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Villains Never Lie / int_8ad6e76f	comment	Carpe Jugulum: Count Magpyr manages to seriously dispirit would-be Vampire Hunter Mightily Oats by claiming that he contributed to much of the holy texts Oats is trying to use against him. Oats is already so plagued with doubt about his faith that he doesn't question it, and it's ambiguous as to how much truth there was to the Count's claims.
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Villains Never Lie / int_8d817ccb	comment	Lost: Ben Linus is pretty much always lying, but the other characters pretty much always believe him, even if they say they know what he's up to. On several occasions, he's admitted that past statements were "not entirely truthful". Michael Emerson's excellent performance makes this much easier to suspend disbelief about. However, Keamy calls Ben's bluff about not actually caring about Alex — that one kinda backfires. The Man in Black also used this tactic to try and get Richard to kill Jacob.
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Villains Never Lie / int_8dfbdff2	comment	Law & Order subverts this in the episode "Access Nation", in which a convicted felon, while in prison, uses an Internet information-gathering company to track someone down and then murders that person upon his release. The owner of the company, trying to defend himself from accusations of wrongdoing, points out that all customers are required to fill out a form asking if they had a criminal record. McCoy says, "And it never occurred to you that someone with a criminal record might actually lie about it?"
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Villains Never Lie / int_8f25225c	comment	Danganronpa: Monokuma doesn't lie. This is both so that he can uphold the rules of his twisted game (i.e., if the Monokuma Files gave a false cause of death, it'd be impossible for anyone to solve the murder) and because he can't be a proper Hope Crusher if nobody trusts his awful revelations. There are, however, a few exceptions. Monokuma is fine with lies by omission, and often deliberately leaves things out of his Monokuma Files if said details would make a case too easy. Later, in Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc, he does start blurring the line between Exact Words and outright lies, such as planting a fake suicide note and claiming it was okay because he never signed the victim's name and presenting a corpse of someone he himself executed and manipulating the scene to make it seem like a recent death. In this case, it's a sign that he's losing control of the games and needs to lie in order to keep things going. Junko, The Despair Behind the Bear, doesn't lie but does exaggerate and make incorrect assumptions in order to spin their words into what they want their audience to hear. For example, she never realized that her sister Mukuro wasn't a despair-nut like her. This trope is averted outside killing games or when the Mastermind is not the original; Monaca Towa is very much a liar, and Tsumugi Shirogane's whole shtick is that she lies about everything, and nobody knows if her revelations in the final chapter can actually be trusted.
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Villains Never Lie / int_90a3a7f4	comment	Kim Possible: In "Hidden Talent", after a "recover the stolen MacGuffin" mission, Kim wonders why Professor Dementor insisted that the device was his own invention. Ron just assumes that Dementor is lying. Dementor was telling the truth — the mission was a set-up by Dr. Drakken to trick Kim into stealing Dementor's device and delivering it to him. In "Rappin' Drakken", Drakken's plan to Take Over the World with brainwashing shampoo fails because the label tells people what the stuff does. Drakken may be a villain, but he's not a corporate shyster. Also, he was quite confident that people would buy it anyway, simply because it was mentioned in a rap song on TV, therefore making it "cool."
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Villains Never Lie / int_920bdb7c	comment	Kill Six Billion Demons has a Knight Templar example in Breaker of Infinities, when Jagganoth reveals to Allison that the universe is stuck in a "Groundhog Day" Loop where one of The Chosen Many have been raised as The Successor in every cycle, only to fail and die battling Jagganoth. He has killed billions if not trillions of Chosen Ones at this point and is thoroughly sick of the whole thing, which is why he wants Allison to just give him the Master Key so he can destroy the whole cycle and everyone else along with it. Allison decides that Jagganoth's words, true or not, do not matter since he is an Omnicidal Maniac.
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Villains Never Lie / int_960062b7	comment	My Hero Academia: After All For One reveals to All Might that Shigaraki is the grandson of All Might's mentor Nana Shimura, All Might falls into a Heroic BSoD and claims he's lying until All For One replies by saying All Might knows it's the truth because it's something that he would clearly do. Discussed in Chapter 291. Dabi reveals on live TV that Endeavor is Dabi's father, that Endeavor abused his family, and that Endeavor's associate Hawks killed Best Jeanist and Twice. "Can't Ya See Kid," a fan of Endeavors, is in denial, but his friend tells him that the public will lose faith in heroes after hearing Dabi, especially after seeing all the destruction caused by the heroes' failure to stop Gigantomachia. That said, while Dabi was telling the truth, heâ€™s unaware that one of those reveals is actually completely false — Hawks faked Best Jeanistâ€™s death, resulting in the latter pulling a Big Damn Heroes moment.
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Villains Never Lie / int_97171bda	comment	In Red Eye, Jackson Rippner never lies once and makes a point of it to Lisa. This has led to some fans interpreting his off-handed joke about killing his parents as actually being the truth.
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Villains Never Lie / int_998cbda3	comment	Daredevil (2015): In season 3, Wilson Fisk gets Ray Nadeem wrapped around his thumb by feeding him a constant stream of reliable information about other criminals... who conveniently happen to have corrupt connections that Fisk wants to take for himself. Once he's certain Nadeem has been thoroughly manipulated, Fisk sends Nadeem and the rest of the FBI after Matt Murdock, claiming that Matt used to work for him (which is partially true, since he had James Wesley hire Nelson & Murdock to defend one of his hitmen). Nadeem doesn't stop to think that this conflicts with public records that show that Nelson & Murdock was instrumental in sending Fisk to prison, simply because Fiskâ€™s testimony on other things has proven itself to be reliable up to this point. He does come to realize Matt is innocent and Fisk is a liar after Jasper Evans is killed while preparing to claim that Fisk paid him to shank him, but by this point, Nadeem is in too deep with Fisk to get out.
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Villains Never Lie / int_9ab32c13	comment	In the Pony POV Series, Diamond Tiara makes a deal with Discord, freeing him in exchange for him restoring her mother's sanity. To the great surprise of the readers, when he gets out, he upholds his end of the bargain. However, it's made clear that he only did it because he swore to his parents, which appears to be a vow he can't break (his little sister Rancor reveals later that if he does, their mother Entropy will erase him from existence and apparently has done so before). However, in the process of freeing Discord, Diamond does end up being driven so crazy she goes Nightmare, so he still screws her over.
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Villains Never Lie / int_9bb5aad4	comment	The fourth season of Yu-Gi-Oh! GX features a villain named Trueman who has that name because he never speaks a lie (although he is willing to use deceit and dishonesty on occasion, such as when he used illusions to make himself look like O'Brien's father in their duel).
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Villains Never Lie / int_9c3ad747	comment	In The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, a strange-looking girl tells him that she and her sisters are all being held captive on the Ghost Ship and of course they don't know where Tetra is, but could he please rescue them all? Of course, most players are probably suspicious of this all from the start, but gameplay insists.
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Villains Never Lie / int_9ecd1e02	comment	In Nightside, this is the basis for one of John Taylor's favorite expressions: "The Devil always lies, except when the truth will hurt you more."
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Villains Never Lie / int_9f6c32a9	comment	Wanted: Sloan tells the Fraternity that they've all been tapped to die. Even though it's been revealed he has been manipulating the prophecy machine for some time now, it's never even implied that he's lying about this. Sloan is certainly in a more trustworthy position, though.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a131f925	comment	In the 101 Dalmatian Street fanfic I AM A DE VIL, Dylan is kidnapped and taken to Cruella. Dylan believed his family will come rescue him; however, Cruella tells him the harsh truth that his family sees him as useless and continues to put him down. Dylan breaks down crying knowing full well that she's telling the truth. She unties him and offers him to stay with her and he'll never be useless. He accepts.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a495544e	comment	Subverted in Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. In a climactic fight with Evil Emperor Zurg (complete with glowing metal rods, just to drive the parody home to the viewers), Zurg tells Buzz that he is Buzz's father, causing Buzz to gasp out a "what" response. Zurg then continues the fight after he reveals that the previous reveal was a sham to catch Buzz off guard.note This is a recycled gag from Toy Story 2, only the end result is different. There's the same Luke, I Am Your Father, the same Big "NO!", but then the next scene shows them playing a nice father-son game of catch. Then again, they're supposed to be toys acting the part of their "namesake" characters. The cartoon series is a Defictionalization of the movies, so the toys might have taken the idea "from the cartoon" and ran with it.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a4a6b86a	comment	Code Geass: Ohgi, for the record, implicitly trusting the word of the enemy commander and Prime Minister who commissioned the weapon that nuked Tokyo and is aiming another at your flagship while he speaks to you and a woman who tried to kill you twice and makes no secret of her loyalty to the enemy is not the brightest move in the entire world. Of course, Schneizel wasn't entirely lying. The list of people Lelouch may or may not have controlled with his Geass is shockingly accurate, and the only evidence he has that he himself was not controlled is that he's not dead. Of course, while most of the stated facts are true, the implied actions are not. Another example is Lelouch's promise to Rolo. At this point, Lelouch states that he won't lie to him. Which is false reassurance for two reasons: first, Lelouch may love Rolo so much that he won't lie to him...except that the fact that he loves Rolo at all may be a lie. Second, Lelouch always lies to the people he loves. Rolo, how could he forbid himself to lie to his fake brother when he lied so much to Nunnally in R1? (yes, he states that he can't lie to Nunnally during the "new governor" phone call...but actually, in R1 he pretended that everything was fine at Euphemia's SAZ opening ceremony).
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Villains Never Lie / int_a4e6a00a	comment	Skies of Arcadia: Early on, the heroes meet a young woman named Bellena who leads them to the Red Moon Crystal. She explains that her motivation is that her father was a sailor who was killed in the Valua-Nasr war, and she doesn't want to have anyone else die in pointless conflicts. When the heroes re-emerge from the dungeon with crystal in hand, "Bellena" reveals her true identity as Belleza, along with several armed Valuan soldiers, before taking the Crystal from them. Fina confronts Belleza on her backstory and asks if it was all a lie, but Belleza actually defends her story and claims that she never lied to them: her father really did fight and die in the Valua-Nasr war, but what she didn't tell them was that her father was on the Valuan side. She also claims that she never lied about hating war; she doesn't want anyone else to go through what she went through, and if she has to lead The Empire into conquering the world to end wars for good, she'll do it.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a5549ed0	comment	The Bible: The serpent (who may or may not be Satan) tells Eve that eating the forbidden fruit won't lead to her death like God said it would, and she believes him, making this the Ur-Example. It's also Metaphorically True: It's true that the fruit gives humans the ability to decide for themselves what is good and evil (rather than relying on God), like the serpent says. Opinion is divided over whether God's warning was Metaphorically True or not: eating it did not kill them immediately and God had to remove them from the garden so they could not eat from the one fruit that could apparently restore/maintain their immortality; however, God never said when or how they would die. Subverted in Orthodox Christianity, which says that the death is a coincidence of disobedience of God's law. Adam and wife could live forever if they followed the Lord. And after they committed the first sin, and couldn't manage to repent, so they died — they become sinners, moreover they got passions — eight deadly illnesses, and all their deeds became sinful. The death was simply not instantaneous. So, it's the case of devil being the Consummate Liar. That's why Jesus called him a killer of man: he convinced them to fall. Also subverted by Catholic Christianity. The serpent (who is indeed Satan according to the Church) tells Eve that eating the fruit will make her and Adam beings above God; the Original Sin as it's known is not in the act of eating the fruit (which would be considered an act of Gluttony) but to try to put themselves above God, which indeed becomes the root of the Deadly Sin of Pride, and by extension, of all sins that followed. In fact, this act is considered what introduced pain and death to mankind as Adam and Eve were expelled from the Paradise and prevented from eating the Fruit of Life, which would indeed have given them immortality. The apocryphal Book of Jubilees has it as "if you eat the fruit you will die on the same day" and Adam and Eve both died 900-odd years later: "in the eyes of God a thousand years are as a day". There was also an Exact Words trick; Adam and Eve misinterpreted God's threat as a warning about the fruit itself, so the serpent reassuring them that the fruit was safe was completely true. Although if the serpent was just a serpent it might not have understood that either. There is also a case of a heroic use of this alongside Metaphorically True: King David has Hushai spy on Absalom by becoming his adviser. He even says "As I have served in thy father's presence, so will I be in thy presence." Satan quotes Scripture during his temptation of Jesus. Jesus doesn't fall for it and responds with further quotes which explain why Satan's interpretations are wrong. In this case, Satan is not being deceptive by lying, but by distorting the original intent of each quote, which is why Jesus's rebuttals are quotes as well, to return them again to the context and meaning in which they were written.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a5a0dd85	comment	Brave New World: To the extent that he can be called a villain in the first place, Mustapha Mond's final appearance to Berhard, Helmholtz, and John provides him with the opportunity to be extremely open and honest to all three of them. Unlike all the other characters Mond understands the full extent of how the society of the book works from the top-down, and willingly explains why he finds this state of affairs somewhat regrettable but ultimately necessary.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a5e160e0	comment	Heroic (or at least anti-heroic) variant: the titular character of Lucifer (2016) never lies; at most, he can be evasive, but he takes great pleasure in telling others that he is, in fact, the Devil himself. Nobody believes him, and most assume that it's some kind of act. His cop partner Chloe tells him that, grandstanding devil act aside, she knows she can trust him.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a660fd96	comment	In Avengers: Endgame, when the Avengers finally capture Thanos, they demand to know where he hid the infinity stones, so they can reverse what he did. He reveals that he destroyed the stones to keep anyone from reversing his wish. In denial, the Avengers reluctantly refuse to believe him, but Nebula states that Thanos is many things, but he's not a liar.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a81325d3	comment	Final Fantasy: Final Fantasy VII's legendary Mind Screw was initiated by one of these. Cloud actually does insist that Sephiroth is lying when he says Cloud isn't who he thinks he is, but since his own version of events isn't right either, and thus there is evidence even in his own memory that seems to support the even more false but still truth-tinted alternative, the doubts eventually overcome him. Final Fantasy XIV: At the end of the 2.0 storyline for A Realm Reborn, Gaius' speech at the final of Praetorium was often interpreted by fans as either false-but-sincere opinions on the state of Eorzea, or as deliberate lies to confuse the heroes. Ignoring the part of Gaius' own leviathanic megalomaniacal visions on leadership, the remaining half of the speech rang true: In patch 2.4 and the arrival of both Shiva, the official anniversary short stories and The Coils of Bahamut raid, the players would learn that, indeed, the Eorzean gods as called upon Carteneau by Louisoux are no different than those of the beasts — eikons every one! Further, Louisoix did so because he lacked the strength or vision to do otherwise, but this is a rather hypocritical jab since the Empire intended to deploy Bahamut, an eikon, against Eorzea in the first place. It's also more than a little hypocritical because Gaius himself is exploiting eikons to power the Ultima Weapon—without them, it would be a dangerous mecha, not a superweapon. This is further complicated by events from the much later patch 6.1, in which we learn that the Twelve really do seem to exist, independently, and they repeatedly insist that they are not primals, but refuse to give any further information about their origin. It's even speculated that Ramuh could be the Sylph interpretation of Rhalgr, and thus Gaius may have had it backwards, that is, the "eikons" might actually be species-specific interpretations of one of the Twelve. In Shadowbringers, the Ascian Emet-Selch occasionally visits the party, offering dubious information or challenging old assumptions. As it turns out, nearly everything he says is completely true. It's just almost always told with extreme bias, full of massive omissions, or full of deceptive leading statements or impossible but plausible-sounding conditions. The greater irony, however, is that the story of Shadowbringers reveals that Emet-Selch wasn't the only one: both Lahabrea's crazed ranting and Elidibus' doomsaying were completely true, from an Ascian perspective, and not even particularly deceptive, we just didn't have enough information to understand what they were actually saying at the time.
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Villains Never Lie / int_a993be1f	comment	In Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, meanwhile, Kreia tells the PC all sorts of things. Some of them are true. Some of them are not. Have fun figuring out which is which. There's still debate in the fandom about what her actual end goal was since she gives multiple mutually exclusive explanations.
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Villains Never Lie / int_ab39667a	comment	In their confrontation at the end of The Gunslinger, the man in black makes the following proclamation to the eponymous hero: "Only enemies speak the truth; friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty."
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Villains Never Lie / int_af583f46	comment	In Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney â€“ Justice For All, the final defendant Matt Engarde tells Phoenix that he didn't commit the murder he was accused of. He's technically correct and bypasses Phoenix's magical Lie Detector by being so, but what he fails to mention is that he hired the assassin who did commit the murder.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b0544c4d	comment	Akasim from Super Robot Wars Z cannot lie because of his Sphere of the "Truth Seeking Goat".
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Villains Never Lie / int_b0b4e8ff	comment	In Jade Empire, Grand Inquisitor Jia helpfully informs you that the apparent Evil Chancellor is actually completely loyal, and the evils of the Lotus Assassins are condoned by the Emperor himself. God forbid the leader of the evil Secret Police force would let you get the wrong idea, after all.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b0de6de7	comment	Season One: In The Avengers Season One, Zarrko wastes a perfect opportunity to sow discord and honestly tells Thor he had no part in Cap's revival. Thor still doesn't listen, because Loki had planted images of Cap in Zarrko's monitors.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b30ae4db	comment	Game of Thrones: The Lannisters lie all the time, but they do take their unofficial motto ("A Lannister always pays his debts") very seriously. If they outright promise you something (whether it's gold or revenge), you can count on getting it. Following the deaths of her husband Khal Drogo and their unborn child due to Mirri Maz Duur's Black Magic in season 1, Danaerys Targaryen repeatedly says that her dragons are the only children she will ever have and no one questions the accuracy of this statement until Jon Snow asks in the season 7 finale who told her she was barren. When Dany replies, "The witch who killed my husband", he points out that a murderer with a grudge is probably not the best source of information.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b4816c2e	comment	Legacy of Kain: Kain is a Nominal Hero/Villain Protagonist who never lies. Unfortunately, the people he doesn't lie to almost always assume that he's lying, with disastrous results.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b483e8e0	comment	The Cadanceverse: Octavia realizes that Blazing Sun and Nightmare Moon must be telling the truth about Cadance being a Golem because they're both sticking to the story — they hate each other so much that if one of them were lying, the other would expose it just to trip them up.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b8c3cc30	comment	Zig-zagged in Young Justice (2010). When Sportsmaster claims to have an "inside source" on the Team, Aqualad keeps quiet about it, unsure whether there's really a mole or if Sportsmaster was just sowing dissent. After Red Tornado seemingly betrays them, Aqualad gets flak from his teammates for not warning them until he explains who the source of the "tip" was. Over the course of the season, three different heroes on the Team turn out to have big secrets the villains could exploit... only for them to all come clean to their friends, convincing everyone there is no mole. They're half-right. The mole was never one of them, it was Red Arrow, which was a shock even for him.
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Villains Never Lie / int_b8e37335	comment	In Look Who's Back, for all the things Adolf Hitler is, he never lies about who he is. The film plays this for chilling effect when Sawatzki realises that Hitler is the genuine article rather than a politically incorrect comedian who is very insistent on Method Acting and confronts him at gunpoint, accusing him of tricking people as he did in the 1930s. Hitler replies with cold bemusement that he never tricked or conned anyone; he argues that if he really is a monster, then so are all the people who backed his goals and policies because he was completely up-front about what he believed and what he would do if he ever got into power, and everyone who supported him knew exactly what he was all about.
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Villains Never Lie / int_bb52f62d	comment	Inverted in Les LÃ©gendaires when the Evil Sorcerer Darkhell, after betraying his ally General Rasga, mockingly reveals to him that the whole reason for his people, the Pirahni, and their enemies, the Elves, to hate each other, was because of the Pirahni wrongly blaming the Elves for banishing them on a deserted island, when they actually chose themselves to live there and the Elves used to be their allies. Ironically, Rasga is reluctant to believe it, when it turns out Darkhell is actually telling the truth.
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Villains Never Lie / int_c1376571	comment	Used to great effect in The Bridge (2011), as the killer always delivers on his promises, whether that's how many people he intends to kill or whether he will let the hostages go if certain demands are met, thus ensuring people always take his threats seriously. In the climax of Season One, he reveals that his ultimate revenge on Martin is that his son has been taken from him, and Martin will never find out what happened to him, made all the more effective because Martin knows without a shadow of a doubt he isn't lying.
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Villains Never Lie / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who: In "The Next Doctor", while facing involuntary conversion into their new leader, Miss Hartigan protests that the Cybermen merely told her she would be heralded if she helped them. In response, they hail her as the CyberKing. She adds that she was specifically promised she would never be converted, which the Cybermen admit they straight-up lied about. In "The Unicorn and the Wasp", this provides a clue to the identity of the culprit. While interviewing everyone about what they were doing at 4:15 PM, only Reverend Golightly was telling the truth, while everyone else lied about their activities and were goofing off at the time, because only the killer was actively trying to establish an alibi.
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Villains Never Lie / int_c4771251	comment	In Mistborn: The Original Trilogy, it's stated in-universe that the Lord Ruler Will Not Tell a Lie. After all, he's the nigh-omnipotent God-Emperor of the world — why on Earth would he ever need to lie to accomplish his goals? Of course, his reign is based on deception — he's not actually an avatar of God, nor is he The Chosen One who arose to protect the world a thousand years ago — but he never actually refers to himself using the name of the former Chosen One, and his belief in his divinity and that he'd successfully co-opted the Chosen One prophecy were, to all appearances, completely genuine.
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Villains Never Lie / int_c68c0000	comment	Star Wars (Marvel 1977): There's an arc set after The Empire Strikes Back in which Luke's targeting computer goes offline and he uses the Force to sight on and vape someone — only to find later that it was his wing guard and love interest Shira Brie. Shira was important enough to the Rebellion that he was immediately ostracized. While Luke was having a crisis of faith in the Force, Vader contacted him and told him that Shira was The Mole, operating at Vader's command. No one would believe Luke if he told his friends — the only one he could go to in all the galaxy, now, was Vader. Luke had found evidence that Shira had been making up her tragic past before, but he didn't believe Vader until he'd infiltrated a data storage facility and saw the evidence himself. A retroactive example happens in one of the annuals, where Vader takes in a boy who had found his mother's dead body, openly saying that he was once in the same position. The story all but states that Vader is lying just to get the boy on his side, but Attack of the Clones, which was released decades after the comic but set previously, reveals that Vader really was in the same position (and it was his Start of Darkness), so he was being honest with the kid after all.
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Villains Never Lie / int_c832776	comment	Gilbert Durandal in Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny, where he says he has a plan to bring ultimate peace and unity to the universe, ridding it of war. His plan turns out to be forcing conformity on every human in the universe, so no one can disagree.
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Villains Never Lie / int_c9633211	comment	Parodied in No More Heroes when the Final Boss Dark Star claims to be protagonist Travis Touchdown's father, and after a moment of trying to remember, Travis seems to remember him. Then Travis' hitherto-unmentioned step-sister Jeane comes out of nowhere to punch through Dark Star's ribcage and remind Travis that no, that guy isn't his father — Travis saw both his real parents die right in front of him as a kid. Dark Star simply liked lying like that to get into his opponents' heads so they'd be unable to focus on the fight, and therefore easier to kill.
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Villains Never Lie / int_cf62f32b	comment	Ravirn: Eris Will Not Tell a Lie, usually.
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Villains Never Lie / int_d1449385	comment	The heroes take evil brain doctor Dr. Sparrow at his word when he claims that Fred's soul was destroyed when Illyria was resurrected in her body. The comics show that he was lying. After Illyria is at ground zero of the Seed of Wonder being restored at the climax of Buffy Season 9, Fred comes back to life, albeit with her and Illyria Sharing a Body.
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Villains Never Lie / int_d31cdea	comment	The Hunger Games: Katniss may see President Snow for the horrible power-hungry monster he is, but she does take him at his word when he says that he will never lie to her. This is part of what leads Katniss to assassinate Alma Coin.
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Villains Never Lie / int_d6e2146d	comment	Diablo III: Zoltun Kulle, the renegade Horadrim, flat out tells you he'd never lie because he finds the truth to be far more entertaining. Indeed, of all the things he says little, if any of it, is a full-on lie. It's all extremely manipulative, of course. He barely even bothers to pretend that he won't betray the hero(es) at the first opportunity.
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Villains Never Lie / int_daff6a21	comment	Subverted with Rudger Goodwin, the leader of the Dark Signers in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5Ds. In his first encounter with Yusei, he claimed that it was greed and lust for power on the part of Yusei's father that caused Zero Reverse; it was a blatant lie that Yusei clearly would not believe. In their second encounter, he told Yusei a story that was closer to the truth but still distorted by his own biased beliefs, which resulted in Yusei resorting to a "The Reason You Suck" Speech followed by a Shut Up, Hannibal! when he realized it was pointless.
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Villains Never Lie / int_de105450	comment	In Back to School, Jerk Jock Chas tells Jason that his father bribed the coach to give him a spot on the diving team, Jason believes him right away and chews out his old man for it. His dad Thornton calls him out for that, but in all fairness, up to that point, it did seem like something Thornton might do. He did, after all, cut the school a huge check to enroll in the first place and was using his hired staff to do his homework for him.
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Villains Never Lie / int_de6659ec	comment	Once Upon a Time: For some reason (that Regina's description of the incident might be believable in this world aside), Rumplestiltskin believes the Evil Queen Regina when she tells him that his love interest Belle was scourged by clerics at her father's behest, locked up and Driven to Suicide, despite being perhaps the most qualified person to know exactly how manipulative and wicked Regina is, given that he taught her to be. As an interesting note, Rumplestiltskin himself has only been seen onscreen outright lying twice. The first time when he tells Belle that he doesn't care about her when he's getting her to leave. The second time when he tells Emma he's going to use a spell on her that lets people voluntarily give up light magic (he's actually planning to absorb her into the Sorcerer's Hat). And as he says to Regina, he's only broken one deal in his life. He's a master of Exact Words and he twists things to suit his needs, but he rarely flat-out lies. Hades tells Regina that the Olympian Crystal has the power to completely destroy your soul, which appears to be the fate of her love interest Robin Hood when Hades kills him with it. Three episodes later her son Henry tells her that he believes Hades was lying, which she too decides to believe. Since this is the man who faked a Heelâ€“Face Turn due to the love of Regina's sister Zelena, Henry was probably right.
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Villains Never Lie / int_e2788349	comment	The Prisoner (2009): In the first episode, when 6 demands that he be returned to New York, 2 responds that New York doesn't exist. He isn't just Gaslighting 6 — the Village exists on an alternate plane of reality far below the subconscious. There really is nothing outside the Village.
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Villains Never Lie / int_e293455a	comment	Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Discussed in "Sleeper" after the First Evil appeared in various forms in the previous episode and said things meant to psych the protagonists out. The Scooby Gang aren't sure if just because the First Evil is, well, evil that means everything it said was a lie. Anya tells them that she herself frequently told the truth back when she was a vengeance demon.
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Villains Never Lie / int_e5feb1e	comment	Ace Attorney: Usually, villains will lie in court just as much as most other witnesses, but occasionally they won't feel the need to perjure themselves. In Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney â€“ Justice For All, the final defendant Matt Engarde tells Phoenix that he didn't commit the murder he was accused of. He's technically correct and bypasses Phoenix's magical Lie Detector by being so, but what he fails to mention is that he hired the assassin who did commit the murder. During Dahlia's final cross-examination in Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney â€“ Trials and Tribulations, nobody doubts that she's telling the truth because a) she's dead and has nothing to lose from honesty, and b) telling the truth will screw over Morgan, so she'll do it out of spite. However, while Dahlia isn't actively lying, she is making incorrect assumptions about the crime; she never knew that Godot was present, and she didn't know Maya was channeling her in the courtroom.
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Villains Never Lie / int_e6267766	comment	Star Wars Legends: In Knights of the Old Republic, a dying Admiral Karath whispers the game's major plot twist to Carth in hopes of shaking him up a little. Carth, naturally, immediately turns to Bastila and yells, "You knew! You and the whole damned Jedi Council!" Bastila actually confirms it as soon as he says this, though, so he was actually right to be mistrustful — and the circumstances leading to said revelation already heavily foreshadowed this to the player. And depending on how you answer an inquiry a little further on, you can confirm the same truth as well. There is also a wealth of evidence that Carth is an untrained Force-Sensitive, which can come with low-level Living Lie Detector abilities. In Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, meanwhile, Kreia tells the PC all sorts of things. Some of them are true. Some of them are not. Have fun figuring out which is which. There's still debate in the fandom about what her actual end goal was since she gives multiple mutually exclusive explanations.
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Villains Never Lie / int_e75c6d45	comment	Goblins: Subverted with the flea demon that gives exposition on the Axe of Prissan. Big Ears realizes that its explanation doesn't add up and that it is lying about the nature of the axe.
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Villains Never Lie / int_ea654451	comment	In Doctor Faustus, Mephistopheles tells Faust he'll give him certain powers and abilities in exchange for Faust's soul, and keeps the bargain to the letter, giving Faust everything he promised. Interestingly, he even tries to talk Faust out of it, pointing out that if he, Mephistopheles, a demon, exists, then wouldn't it stand to reason that God also exists and that Faust, by implication, would be making a horrible mistake by taking Mephistopheles up on his offer? Faust replies that that doesn't follow at all, since just because one part of a story turns out to be true, it doesn't prove that the whole story is true. Mephistopheles concedes the point.
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Villains Never Lie / int_ef661e97	comment	In the Street Fighter series, one of Bison's character traits is that he does not lie, ever — unless you count Cammy's ending in Super Street Fighter II, which was a mistranslation on the part of Capcom.
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Villains Never Lie / int_ef7b3325	comment	Fantastic Four: Doctor Doom, as a part of his Noble Demon villain character type, prides himself on never lying, viewing it as beneath his obvious superiority. Though, he'll still gleefully engage in deception by using Exact Words. However, Depending on the Writer, Doom will lie if the truth is sufficiently humiliating or embarassing. Case in point, he's constantly lying to himself that Reed Richards started their feud by sabotaging Doom's experiment.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f06707a7	comment	Lord Foul the Despiser from The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant never lies. He doesn't see it as necessary to achieve his goals, and he's been right so far.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f1aaf6d5	comment	Indivisible: For all his faults, Lord Ravannavar never lies to or manipulates anybody, allowing them to make their own choices. He even sometimes gives out information that can harm him, just so they can make an informed decision, such as actively warning the protagonists that by pursuing him, they are playing right into his hands and will help him unleash Kala. Ajna presses forward anyways, just as Ravannanar planned, simply because she's too blinded by vengeance to believe him.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f3e1f424	comment	An interesting case is Morgause from Merlin (2008), who convinces Prince Arthur to visit her home so that she can conjure up the spirit of his dead mother. On meeting the late Queen Igraine, Arthur learns the truth about the circumstances of his birth: that his father Uther made a deal with the sorceress Nimueh to help them conceive, which resulted in Igraine's death thanks to the nature of the spell. This enrages Arthur so much that he races home to Camelot and almost kills his father, only for Merlin to talk him out of it by suggesting to him that Morgause had made the whole thing up and that the spirit of Igraine wasn't real. The twist is that although Morgause could have conjured up a fake Igraine (the show is never clear), the audience knows (thanks to conversations between Uther/Gaius) that everything Igraine told Arthur about his birth was in fact completely true. Even more interestingly, Merlin knows the information was true but lies to Arthur to dissuade him from committing patricide.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f4abd380	comment	This is Terumi's schtick in BlazBlue. What better way to Mind Rape somebody than reveal truths such as "their rightful place in the world was stolen away by someone who only exists because of causality-interference effects screwing with the time loops", or that "they're really just a failed version of an Eldritch Abomination" which in turn is a failed version of a Person of Mass Destruction"? He does conveniently forget to neglect certain details, however, but he never technically fibs and pretty much confesses without any provocation that he gave Ragna his Dark and Troubled Past For the Evulz. There is one incident Terumi was forced to lie, however — if he was honest in any capacity, his plans could have been compromised. In Decisionnote Jin's story mode in Continuum Shift, he makes a move on Makoto, only to get subsequently parried by Jin, and when he states that his actions were for disciplinary purposes, (which, seen as Metaphorically True still could be considered a truth from Hazama's perspective,) Jin refuses to buy it. In addition to Makoto's protectorate issues, she had just returned from assignment in Ikaruga, where she learned things that stand to be very damaging to his schemes if left uncontrolled. In Slight Hope, which takes place beforehand, she had proven herself a nuisance to his plots — add all of that up, and it's clear he wanted her dead three days ago.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f655ed11	comment	Not exactly a villain example: when Frasier is supposed to be on a date with a model, he winds up minding her daughter while she does a shoot. He eventually strikes up a conversation with the daughter, who tells him about how shallow and neglectful her mother is. When the woman returns and tries to resume the date, Frasier confronts the woman over her supposed behavior, which prompts her to ask if Frasier ever considered that the angry twelve-year-old might have been lying.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f6a1016f	comment	None of the machine characters in The Matrix ever lie, and it's somewhat implied that they can't. Even Smith's initial conversation with Neo is totally truthful, to the point that Smith admits to Neo that he is actually living two separate lives, with one "lived in computers". The Architect reacts with something approaching disgust when the possibility of him breaking his word is brought up: "What do you think I am? Human?" The only machine to lie is The Analyst in The Matrix Resurrections who reneges on his deal to allow Neo and Trinity to leave if they want to, which disgusts Smith of all people to turn on the Analyst and help the heroes escape.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f6a54e75	comment	Frequently abused by villains in the Kingdom Hearts series, who love to say things that are Metaphorically True or the actual truth — just not the whole truth — or a slanted version of it. Maleficent in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep used this to devastating effect on the protagonists by making them question Terra's brushes with the darkness until it becomes a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy, something Xehanort was counting on.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f6b79960	comment	Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors plays with this in an interesting way. Whenever Zero says something it's a safe bet that it's true. It may not be what you think it is, but it's the truth (one exception: she lied about putting bombs in the players (the innocent ones at least, it's unknown if Ace had a bomb in him, but two of his conspirators definitely did (though one wasn't even a proper player)) and threatening to blow up Clover if Snake reveals what happened in the first Nonary Game). However, this only applies to things said as Zero. When not being Zero Akane has no problems lying to everyone all the time.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f74b5f80	comment	Babylon 5: Bester may utilize Metaphorically True, he may not tell the entire truth, but when he tells the station crew something, it does generally turn out to be true.
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Villains Never Lie / int_f7ed2fd7	comment	The Little Mermaid (1989): When Ursula sings "Poor Unfortunate Souls", she lies about her intentions, downplays the risks involved (she says that people not being able to pay her and getting punished has happened "once or twice", but it's visually implied to be much more common), and is very manipulative towards Ariel... but when it comes to the Deal with the Devil itself, she's entirely honest about what she's offering and what she's asking, and she is correct that Ariel can woo the Prince even without speaking to him. Presumably this is necessary to make the contract valid.
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Villains Never Lie / int_fb873b86	comment	Jigsaw, the titular villain of the Saw franchise, always tells his victims clearly and specifically how they can escape death without using falsehood, distortion, or even metaphor. If he tells one of them to dig deep inside themselves to find the key that unlocks the deathtrap that will kill them, he actually means that he surgically implanted the key inside their bodies and intends for them to painfully tear said key out.
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Villains Never Lie / int_ff0b6458	comment	All For Luz: As much of a Manipulative Bastard he is, All For One has only admitted to have lied to Luz once, that their Power Parasite Quirk couldn't be replicated (not like that info meant much to the girl). He was also completely honset to her about his backstory: from his rise to power in his world, to the creation of One For All to his demise at All Might's hands. He also especially invokes this if it concerns an Awful Truth, simply out of delight with her trying to deny the awful revelations whilst he's being completely forthright with her. Despite initially hating his Brutal Honesty, Luz does gain a level of trust in All For One because of his At Least I Admit It attitude compared to the Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremist and Knight Templar foes she constantly fights.Unfortunately for Luz, just because her Evil Mentor 'doesn't lie' doesn't mean he still isn't any less manipulative, villainous, and deceitful.
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Villains Never Lie / int_ffd7dca7	comment	In Dragon Knights, Nadil seems to find that the truth hurts people far more than a lie would ever have to — after all, he commits some terrible atrocities to brag about.
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Wanted (Comic Book) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
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Nymeria's War (Fanfic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Shadows over Meridian (Fanfic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The New Man: An Adam Smasher SI (Fanfic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Ultimate Evil (Fanfic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Total Drama Voyage (Fanfic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Yesterday Upon The Stair (Fanfic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Attack of the Clones / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Baby Driver / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Back to School / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Come and See / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Empire of Dreams / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Five Nights at Freddy's (2023) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Ghost Rider (2007) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
In the Line of Fire / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Jingle All the Way / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Law Abiding Citizen / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Look Who's Back / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
No Country for Old Men / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Other People's Money / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Red Eye / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Return of the Jedi / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Revenge of the Sith / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Scarface (1983) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Scream (1996) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Smokin' Aces / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Star Trek: Insurrection / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Stardust / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The 6th Day / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Dark Knight / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Dark Knight Rises / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Devil's Advocate / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The NeverEnding Story (1984) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The NeverEnding Story / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Total Recall (1990) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Wanted / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
War for the Planet of the Apes / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
X-Men: Days of Future Past / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Zack Snyder's Justice League / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Battle Royale / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Brave New World / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Darth Bane / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Dragon Calling / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Lyonesse / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Pact / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Playing for Keeps / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Small Favor / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Divine Comedy / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Egyptian / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Elder Empire / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Fortress of the Black Cauldron / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Hunger Games / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Mysterious Stranger / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Pillars of the Earth / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Port of Peril / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Prince / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Wise Man's Fear / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
World of Warcraft: Chronicle / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Tales of the Past (Machinima) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Hannibal Has a Point	seeAlso	Villains Never Lie
Mario4812LikedTropes3	seeAlso	Villains Never Lie
PandoraH-M	seeAlso	Villains Never Lie
Dazzle (Manga) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Pokémon: Diamond and Pearl Adventure! (Manga) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Shamo (Manga) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Soul Eater (Manga) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Doubt Academy (Roleplay) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Warning Wanna Hear A Secret (Roleplay) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Bron\|Broen / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Dai Sentai Goggle Five / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Lethal Weapon (2016) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Nip/Tuck / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Orphan Black / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Orphan Black: 7 Genes / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Samurai Sentai Shinkenger / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Bridge (2011) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Consultant (2023) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Fades / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Prisoner (2009) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Army of Two (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Baten Kaitos: Eternal Wings and the Lost Ocean (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
BrÃ¼tal Legend (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Clash at Demonhead (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Far Cry 4 (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Iji (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Lost Ark (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Love & Pies (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Mabinogi (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
No More Heroes (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Secret Files (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Shadow Man (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Skies of Arcadia (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Force Unleashed (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Xenogears (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Sonic Forces (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Video Game) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Lamento - beyond the void (Visual Novel) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Sucker for Love (Visual Novel) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Tyrion Cuthbert: Attorney of the Arcane (Visual Novel) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
HFIL (Web Animation) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Tales of the Past (Web Animation) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Goblins (Webcomic) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Captain Planet and the Planeteers / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Gay Purr-ee / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Over the Garden Wall / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Phineas and Ferb The Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Jungle Book (1967) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Princess and the Frog / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Totally Spies! / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Zak Storm / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Alberto Del Rio (Wrestling) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
Kurt Angle (Wrestling) / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
R.O.D the TV / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
The Death Gate Cycle / int_1b06aa41	type	Villains Never Lie
villainsneverlie	sameAs	Villains Never Lie

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