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So, you're a hero of destiny, summoned before the mighty king of this pastiche Tolkienesque fantasy kingdom and charged with saving the world from the terrible evil that has befallen it before it's The End of the World as We Know It. We know you can pull it off. Because Destiny Says So. Oh, did we mention that you've got five bucks and a butter knife to your name? Strange though it may seem, the king has sent you on the most important quest the world has ever known, and he expects you to pay your own way. Oh, he might invite you to scrounge around the castle for any treasure chests you can get to (forget the ones with locks or behind locked doors), all probably containing enough loot to buy a pointy stick; but it wouldn't even occur to him that, what with the world hanging in the balance, it might be a good idea to give you every resource at his disposal. No Supernatural Aid for you! Nor are you bringing much to the situation; Warriors of Destiny don't have trust funds. Or savings accounts. Or bus fare, for that matter. You'd think that just to qualify as a Warrior of Anything, you'd at least have a sword, maybe a suit of well-worn armor from all that warrioring you did to build up your reputation, but no. In fact, you're a Level 1 warrior, so you don't even have any experience to speak of — though the king is hardly going to suggest sending you off to boot camp with his personal guard for a week. No, you're just going to have to do it the hard way, beating up local slime and mad wolves for the gold pieces they drop. (What the wolves are doing with gold pieces to begin with is anyone's guess.) Fairly standard setup for the classic fantasy Role-Playing Game and all sorts of Adventure Games. Somewhat less prevalent these days, but not because the average starting kit has improved. Rather, the setup of being deliberately sent on a mission by someone powerful is currently out of fashion, in favor of either being a random person who got into the adventure through chance, or a self-motivated type who takes on the challenge without any initial support. Survival Horror has a form of this trope, but there it tends to work a little better, as it's less about deliberately being shafted and more about not getting a chance to prepare. Frequently overlaps with No Hero Discount and with Arbitrary Mission Restriction, though not the same. Contrast with Bag of Spilling, in which equipment/power-ups don't carry over to the next part; and Giving the Sword to a Noob, where a powerful weapon ends up in the hands of an incompetent such as The Chosen Zero. An alternative to this trope is It May Help You on Your Quest, where useless looking equipment turns out to be unexpectedly vital later on. May lead to Magikarp Power if there's a way to improve your starting kit from beginning to end. If it's literally a herring, see Shamu Fu. Often the first step in a Sorting Algorithm of Weapon Effectiveness. A Taste of Power subverts this trope... at first. For the gameplay version, see Early Game Hell. For the general trope of starting with weak gear, see Starter Equipment. No relation to Red Herring, nor to the With This Ring trope. The fanfiction With This Ring is rather the opposite, starting the protagonist out with one of the greatest weapons in the universe. May overlap with Impossible Task (as the Trope Namer does). |
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In the second episode (the RPG parody) of Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi king-Papan charges Sasshi and Arumi with defeating the dark lord, Aki-nee. The king gives them a bag of gold, then the court turns around and goes back into the castle again. | |
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In Parting Words, Twilight Sparkle finally calls Princess Celestia out on this. | |
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Reaper: The Devil provides Sam with an object capable of retrieving the escaped souls, such as a dust buster or a tennis ball. Funnily enough, these are sometimes quite effective. The bad ones are when he gets given seemingly useful ones like a spear — to fight a Mongol warrior with. Or a boxing glove when facing a champion prizefighter. He also sometimes gets strange powers to catch a particular soul. Of course, these usually end up completely useless and only serve as obstacles. Try catching a soul when anything you try to eat (even toothpaste) turns into an insect. |
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Triptych Continuum: In the setting's cornerstone work, the Mane 6 (plus Spike) are sent on a mission by Discord... and not only does he not provide any explanation of what they're supposed to do beyond "there is a bad thing. Find and fix it", the only resources they have are whatever they happened to have in their saddlebags when he yoinked them to Canterlot and a single one-shot "make any one thing go away" button for Fluttershy. Discord states that this is for some reason necessary if they are doing things "the pony way". | |
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Experienced by the four at the beginning of The Keys Stand Alone: The Soft World. They're brought back to C'hou and (eventually) told they're there to help save the world, but all they have to live on initially is Ringo's pouchful of money—which turns out to be worth a LOT less than it used to, meaning they have to start finding money just to stay alive pretty damn quick. Rather shabby treatment for champions brought over by the gods... | |
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In Brimstone, Ezekiel Stone is charged with tracking down 113 damned souls who've escaped to Earth, some of whom have been in Hell since the beginning of time, and who thus have amassed fantastic powers. To accomplish this mission, he has a handgun and $36.27 (the money on him when he died and went to Hell). Mind you, he begins each day with it, giving him functionally unlimited funds. $36.27 at a time. No saving up. | |
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Stanley and His Monster: Played with in the Phil Foglio mini-series. Ambrose Bierce tells Stanley to pack 'whatever he thinks he will need' for an expedition to Hell while casting a spell that ensures that whatever he chooses will be exactly what he needs. Stanley packs a Halloween mask, a bottle of soda, a package of hot dogs, an umbrella, a bottle of barbeque sauce and a little red wagon. This turns out to be exactly what he needs to defeat the forces of Hell. | |
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Played straight in The Five Star Stories: Mishalu Ha Lonn had to find and rescue her Emperor from a large (about an army-sized) and heavily armed mercenary force with a single lousy division of inexperienced recruits and just four Mortar Headds of dubious stats against her enemy's nine. Her detachment manages to hold long enough for The Cavalry to arrive, though. | |
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In the Phineas and Ferb episode "Gaming the System", Candace is stuck inside the boys' video game and must Win to Exit. Unfortunately, when she was scanned into the game, all she had was a Modesty Towel and a hair dryer (which somehow works despite needing to be plugged in), which she uses to destroy Mooks. | |
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In The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (2016), While Ordona was nice enough to reattach Link's arm, relocate his sword, and give him a new set of clothes, Faron provides him nada when informing him he's The Chosen One and sending him off to Eldin. Midna suggests that maybe he would have received some Supernatural Aid if he hadn't told Faron the gods sucked at picking heroes. | |
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Done brutally in full-on RPG parody series Magical Circle Guru-Guru when the king loudly disavows himself of all responsibility for the child heroes after giving them a small amount of gold. | |
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One issue of Hsu and Chan has Arnie as a parody of Master Chief from Halo save the world from the covenant with a plastic serrated knife. | |
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MST3K - in the "The Day the Earth Froze" episode, the evil witch challenges the hero to plow a field of snakes - when he challenges her on this point she replies "Hey, I'm the curse boss here!" In the actual movie, she's deliberately wasting his time. | |
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Luffy from One Piece starts off his adventure on the high seas with nothing but his clothes, a devil-fruit power (which prevents him from swimming) and a dinghy. And on top of his lack of material supplies, about the only thing he really knows how to do is fight so he can't even navigate. | |
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For example, Generation Kill points out that when the United States Marine Corps was invading Iraq in '03, they were issued MOPPs (NBC protective gear) in forest green camouflage. | |
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In the The Fairly OddParents! "Wishology" trilogy, Timmy is told he has to fight The Darkness and sent on his way... with nothing, not even his fairies, to help him. He also loses everything at the beginning of the next two parts, forcing him to start over. | |
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In Dragon Ball, Goku begins the quest for the Dragon Balls in the Red Ribbon arc with nothing but a magical cloud, an extending stick and some martial arts skills. With them, he wipes out the entire Red Ribbon Army at the end of the story. He's in a similar situation at the start of the King Piccolo arc (a villain who can blow up cities all by himself), only this time he quickly loses the cloud! | |
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This Used To Be About Dungeons: The Overguards have a very strong belief in self-sufficiency, so when Alfric sets out on his own, he doesn't get outfitted with much. He has a mildly magical sword, boots that slightly increase his stride length, and a small amount of money, but that's about it. Meanwhile, the family home and vault are filled to bursting with magic beyond most people's dreams. Alfric agrees with the philosophy, however, and feels like being loaded up with overwhelmingly powerful items for low-level dungeons would ruin the experience. | |
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What A Cartoon! Show: In "Gramps", a grandfather tells his grandchildren a tale of how he supposedly saved the world from an alien invasion. The President asked for his help and told him to choose between door number 1 or door number 2. Had he chosen door number one, he'd have received several big weapons but he chose door number 2 and received a mule. | |
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A number of Fighting Fantasy books such as House of Hell and Blood of the Zombies are set in modern times and has your character an ordinary civilian who's been imprisoned by sinister forces. No sword and bag of provisions, so you better find something sharp soon and avoid getting hit. Other books like Appointment with F.E.A.R. and Creature of Havoc have you equipped with nothing because your character is a superhero or hulking monster who don't need equipment to win their fights. | |
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