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Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_mobile_ad_1'); })Music From "The Elder" is the ninth studio album by KISS, released in 1981. It was an attempt at a Progressive Rock Concept Album that came out around the time when the band's fortunes were slipping following the releases of the four solo albums, Dynasty, and Unmasked, and after the replacement of drummer Peter Criss with Eric Carr. The album would cause the band to eventually replace lead guitarist Ace Frehley with Vinnie Vincent in 1983, as Ace only contributed to a few tracks on the album. Ace wanted to create a much harder rock album, but was outvoted by the band's two other founding members and Eric Carr had no say in the matter. (Some of the songs that were demoed before this album's release would find their way onto the 1982 Europe-only release of Killers.) It is considered an Old Shame by a seemingly shameless band, as they performed very few songs from the album live.Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_mobile_ad_2'); })
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Fanfare
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Fanfare: The titular second song from the original 1981 album, the first on the 1997 Remaster, both preceding "Just A Boy"
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All There in the Manual
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All There in the Manual: The story of The Elder leading up to the events that take place in the album are in the liner notes.
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Power Ballad
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Power Ballad: "Odyssey".
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Crapsack World
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Crapsack World: "A World Without Heroes" tries to describe such a world as this.
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New Sound Album
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New Sound Album: See the description in the intro.
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As the Good Book Says...
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As the Good Book Says...: "Dark Light"
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Special Guest
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Special Guest: Lou Reed co-wrote "Dark Light", "A World Without Heroes" and "Mr. Blackwell".
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Artifact Title
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Artifact Title: The music on the album was originally meant to be the soundtrack to a film called The Elder.
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Miniscule Rocking
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Miniscule Rocking: "Fanfare" is under a minute and a half long.
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Reincarnation Romance
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Reincarnation Romance: Implied in "Odyssey":
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Step Up to the Microphone
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Step Up to the Microphone: Ace sings lead on "Dark Light".
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Record Producer
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Record Producer: Bob Ezrin, who also worked on Destroyer and later Revenge.
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Pep-Talk Song
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Pep-Talk Song: "I"
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Meaningful Name
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Meaningful Name: Invoked and inverted:
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Epic Rocking
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Epic Rocking: "Odyssey" and "I" are both over five minutes long.
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Instrumentals
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Instrumentals: "Fanfare" and "Escape From The Island".
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Comic-Book Adaptation
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Comic-Book Adaptation: An unofficial comic book adaptation of the album's story appeared in a 1998 KISS-related magazine.
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Badass Creed
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Badass Creed/Heroic Vow: "The Oath".
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Ancient Order of Protectors
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Ancient Order of Protectors: The Elder (a.k.a. The Order Of The Rose).
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The Chosen One
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The Chosen One: The Boy, who is addressed in the song "Only You".
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Spoken Word in Music
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Spoken Word in Music: "Finale" closes out the album with The Order speaking to Morpheus about The Boy.
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Rite of Passage
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Rite of Passage: The quest that the Boy undertakes is implied to be one in "Under The Rose".
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Big Bad
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Big Bad: Mr. Blackwell, from the eponymous song.
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One-Letter Title
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One-Letter Title: "I".
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One-Man Song
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One-Man Song: "Mr. Blackwell".
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I'm Not a Hero, I'm...
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I'm Not a Hero, I'm.../Just a Kid: "Just A Boy".
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"The Villain Sucks" Song
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"The Villain Sucks" Song: "Mr. Blackwell", sung from the POV of his underlings who don't like him.
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Angst
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Angst: Expressed by The Boy in "Just A Boy"
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Cover Version
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Cover Version: "Odyssey" was written by Tony Powers, as a guest contribution.
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One-Word Title
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One-Word Title: "Fanfare", "Odyssey" and "Finale".
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Drugs Are Bad
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Drugs Are Bad: In "I": "Don't need to get wasted, it only holds me down." (Also a Take That! to Ace Frehley.)
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Everything Is an Instrument
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Everything Is an Instrument: The instrumental bridge of "I" consists of nothing but snapping of fingers — possibly because they were expecting a guitar solo, but they couldn't find anyone to replace Ace Frehley at the time.
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Determinator
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Determinator: The Boy, in the song "I".
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Dark Is Evil
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Dark Is Evil/Light Is Not Good: "Dark Light".
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Vocal Tag Team
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Vocal Tag Team: Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons on "I".
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Fading into the Next Song
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Fading into the Next Song: In the original 1981 album release, it's "Just A Boy" —> "Dark Light". In the 1997 Remaster, it's "Just A Boy" —> "Odyssey".
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