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True Believers (Webcomic)

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The 2008 Platypus Comix miniseries True Believers takes place while the characters from the website's flagship comics have gone on strike. The Head Executive tries to tide readers over with a Spider-Man comic, hoping he could get away with featuring characters he doesn't own when the characters he does own won't cooperate. The resulting story became Platypus Comix's Take That! against Marvel Comics' reviled One More Day comic, which had concluded two weeks earlier. In a 48-page, two-month-long, Roger Rabbit-ish storyline, Spidey and Mary Jane Watson fight to save their marriage from being wiped out by their own editor, Joe Quesadilla — a vicious Quesada caricature.
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Jumping Off the Slippery Slope
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Jumping Off the Slippery Slope: As the story progresses, Joe goes from an editor doing a questionable (putting it mildly) job to an outright supervillain, going so far as to hypnotize Mary Jane into committing suicide and present Peter with a Sadistic Choice (see The Final Temptation).
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Brainwashed and Crazy
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Brainwashed and Crazy: Joe Quesadilla takes control of Mary Jane's mind and tries to make her kill herself.
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Chekhov's Gun
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See also Chekhov's Gun above.
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Death Is Cheap
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Death Is Cheap: Comic book characters "always come back", as Mary Jane explains after a revitalization. Happens to Spider-Man himself too, during his Despair Event Horizon detailed below.
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Crisis Crossover
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DC gets criticized for relying too heavily on generic and lengthy Crisis Crossovers.
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Reality Warper
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Reality Warper: Joe Quesadilla
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Smart People Wear Glasses
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Smart People Wear Glasses: Daredevil wears glasses despite being completely blind. This is the exact reason he gives for this.
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Fat Bastard
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Fat Bastard: Quesadilla has a noticeable beer gut and is a very unpleasant person.
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Bookends
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Book Ends: The comic begins and ends with Spidey having to save MJ after she gets kidnapped.
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Death Trap
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After the Head Executive's intro, the comic begins by revealing that Doctor Octopus has once again kidnapped Mary Jane. He boasts to her that when Spider-Man comes to the rescue, he will fall into the Death Trap he planted underneath the floor. To Doc Ock's dismay, MJ then reveals that Spidey was waiting in the hypothetical wings for him to reveal what he had up his sleeve. Spidey proceeds to pull Doc Ock into the trap, then take back MJ.
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Disney Villain Death
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Disney Villain Death: Quesadilla makes two attempts at causing MJ to fall to her death. However, they both become subverted.
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A Wizard Did It
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A Wizard Did It: After the Ret-Gone of Joe Quesadilla drastically improves "the real world's continuity" and the comic book industry, Peter remarks that he can't believe the aforementioned Chekhov's Gun could cause such a great effect. MJ reminds him, "It's magic, Tiger," so Peter exclaims, "Yeah, it's magic! We don't have to explain it!"
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Disney Death: Mary Jane after Joe Quesadilla tries to kill her, following Peter's refusal of The Final Temptation, since again Death Is Cheap for Marvel characters.
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And the Adventure Continues
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And the Adventure Continues: On the last page, Peter and MJ walk off into the sunset. Green Goblin then swoops in and whisks her away.
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Divided for Publication
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Divided for Publication: An early treatment for the comic treats it as a trilogy, but the finale ended up getting divided into two parts.
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Author Powers
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Author Powers: Joe Quesadilla can change anything in the Marvel Universe with a flick of the pen.
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What Happened to the Mouse?
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What Happened to the Mouse?: The Platypus Comix Character Strike doesn't get brought up again after the first page. The return of the flagship series' characters a week after this storyline's resolution made up for that, but this still became the only comic released during the Strike in which the Head Executive does not appear on more than one page.
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Ret-Gone
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Ret-Gone: Joe Quesadilla and (unintentionally) Ben Reilly, after Mary Jane performs a retcon with the stolen stamp.
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The Big Damn Kiss
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The Big Damn Kiss: The only kiss that Peter and MJ get to share in this whole story follows MJ defeating Joe Quesadilla once and for all. It is accompanied by what looks like an aura surrounding the couple, and Cherry Blossoms falling, the latter much to the duo's confusion.
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Never My Fault
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Never My Fault: Joe Quesadilla is quite adamant about this. Even as he sends MJ plummetting to her (apparent) death:
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Continuity Reboot
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Continuity Reboot: After getting rid of Mary Jane, Joe Quesadilla also undoes the last 30 years of storylines to make Peter unemployed and living with his aunt.
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One True Love
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One True Love: Stan Lee tells Spider-Man that he and Mary Jane were literally made for each other.
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Suspiciously Apropos Music
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Suspiciously Apropos Music: As Peter dances with MJ the Friday evening after Quesadilla announces plans to erase their marriage, the song being played is Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers' "Mary Jane's Last Dance". Peter points out the irony of the song's lyricsnote mis-reproduced; the chorus says "one more time to kill the pain", rather than "one more night to feel the pain", but MJ informs him the song's actually about smoking pot.
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ToonTown
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Toon Town: Storagetown, where comic book characters go when their publishers don't want to make books about them anymore.
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Take That!
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Take That!: In addition to all the potshots taken at Joe Quesada's ego and questionable business decisions... DC gets criticized for relying too heavily on generic and lengthy Crisis Crossovers. Joe Quesadilla admits he felt surprised that Kirsten Dunst's treatment of Mary Jane in the Spider-Man Trilogy didn't cause MJ to lose any fans. Some time after Peter and MJ secede from Marvel, MJ grows desperate for another acting gig, and tells Peter that she might go into fanfiction. Peter warns her that she'll "throw away [her] decency" if she does so.
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The Final Temptation
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The Final Temptation: During the climax, Quesadilla offers Peter the revivals of Uncle Ben, Richard and Mary Parker, and/or Gwen Stacy if he lets him erase the marriage. He nearly accepts, but after deciding he wants MJ to be happy, he asks her what to do, then follows her request to decline the temptation.
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Precision F-Strike
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Precision F-Strike: After Peter tears up the paper Joe Quesadilla used to brainwash MJ, she tells Peter, "Kick his ass." There's another from MJ even before at the start, when she finds out that Quesadilla was the one who ordered their marriage to be undone: she calls him a "f***ing snake".
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Berserk Button
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Berserk Button: When Quesadilla declares to Spidey that if necessary, he'll kill MJ in order to break them up, Spidey becomes so enraged, he grabs Quesadilla's clipboard, and tears up the notes.
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Shout-Out
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Shout-Out/Reference Overdosed: After Spider-Man rescues MJ from Doc Ock, he threatens, "I'll get you next time, Spider-Man...Next tiiiime!" A Right-Hand Cat meows afterward to complete the homage. MJ asks Peter to kiss her upside-down. In a twist, he tries flipping her upside-down for once. Peter says that the last time he felt anxious about the writers' decisions, he lost Gwen Stacy. In lieu of a wedding photo, MJ framed one of the covers◊ of the wedding issue of Spider-Man. Joe Quesadilla drops MJ into an interdimensional portal. Joe Quesadilla's right-hand woman, Miss Teschmacher, shares a last name with one of Lex Luthor's accomplices from the Superman Film Series. DC decides to kill Batman. An African-American version of Lois Lane appears a few times, in reference to a story in which she disguised herself as a black woman.
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Corrupt Corporate Executive
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Corrupt Corporate Executive: Joe Quesadilla shows no qualms with putting Spidey's and MJ's happiness or MJ's life in danger for the sake of boosting comic sales.
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Cerebus Syndrome
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Cerebus Syndrome: Platypus Comix author Peter Paltridge said that "True Believers" started out as a less dramatic story for the fourth week of the Character Strike. He first published the early chapters under the Self Deprecating title, "Peter Paltridge, The Amazing Spider-Hack."
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Hoist by His Own Petard
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Hoist by His Own Petard: After the Head Executive's intro, the comic begins by revealing that Doctor Octopus has once again kidnapped Mary Jane. He boasts to her that when Spider-Man comes to the rescue, he will fall into the Death Trap he planted underneath the floor. To Doc Ock's dismay, MJ then reveals that Spidey was waiting in the hypothetical wings for him to reveal what he had up his sleeve. Spidey proceeds to pull Doc Ock into the trap, then take back MJ. See also Chekhov's Gun above.
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Battle Couple
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Battle Couple: Peter and MJ become one as they protest Joe Quesadilla.
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Despair Event Horizon
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Despair Event Horizon: After Spidey discovers that Quesadilla erased everything that happened in the last 30 years, he asks Doctor Octopus to Mercy Kill him. He gets better, "five miniseries, three crossovers, and one apocalyptic battle later."
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Godwin's Law
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Godwin's Law
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Homage Shot
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Homage Shot: In a Shout-Out to Dallas, Spidey wakes up in bed, walks into the bathroom, and finds Venom in his shower. Some panels of the surprise party various comic characters hold at the end in honor of Peter's and MJ's anniversary closely resemble the party held at the end of One More Day.
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Rage Against the Author
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Earn Your Happy Ending
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Earn Your Happy Ending: Do they succeed? Yes!
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True Art Is Angsty
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True Art Is Angsty: In-universe, Joe Quesadilla claims this as his reason Spider-Man would sell better if Spidey weren't Happily Married.
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A Wizard Did It / int_d7a84730
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And the Adventure Continues / int_d7a84730
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Death Is Cheap / int_d7a84730
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Disney Villain Death / int_d7a84730
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First Law of Resurrection / int_d7a84730
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Rage Against the Author / int_d7a84730
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Surprisingly Happy Ending / int_d7a84730
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The Final Temptation / int_d7a84730
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True Art Is Angsty / int_d7a84730