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Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_content_3'); })Villains generally have big egos, and they love to gloat. Given the chance, they can't resist the temptation to insult the hero or to revel in their own wickedness when they think they have the upper hand. A particular brand of Evil Gloating favored by those who enjoy relating their many evil deeds is to describe in detail to the hero how the villain has murdered the heroes' friends or loved ones, preferably in the most unpleasant way possible. Sometimes the villain does this to mess with the heroes' emotions, or because he wants to frighten them, or he enjoys reliving the memory, or he just plain loves causing pain and can't resist the chance to confront the hero with this source of anguish. Villains who love to Break Them by Talking thrive on this. However, it is important to note that this trope often has the tendency to backfire on the villain in question. Not only relevant to the dangers that Evil Gloating can cause, a villain who mercilessly mocks the hero about how he just butchered their True Companions has a tendency to cause an Unstoppable Rage or just give the hero that extra incentive to fight back that he needs to put the villain to his end. And woe to the villain who inadvertently awakens a Mama Bear or Papa Wolf by gleefully telling them they just killed their kids... Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_content_2'); })That said, a reasonably common variation is that the person invoking this trope is actually trying to commit Suicide by Cop, and either deeply regrets what they did deep down, or even were totally innocent of the crime and are just trying to provoke a reaction for some end. Usually takes the form of the phrase "Would you like to hear how he/she died?" but doesn't have to, the villain may just start giving lurid details unbidden about the last moments of the person they've killed, possibly accompanied by an Evil Laugh, or make things up about how the victim begged for death, or outright lie about killing them entirely just to generate a reaction. It can be combined with a Post-Rape Taunt for extra Kick the Dog factor. Also bonus points for trying to describe their murder as an Undignified Death, mainly by making their victims out to be cowards. Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_content_1'); })This is also a prime way to push the Relative Button. The exact opposite, on the other hand, is But for Me, It Was Tuesday, wherein the villain can't even remember who it was he killed, never mind how they died, which shows that they've killed so many that they stopped caring about it as well as Lack of Empathy Examples: |
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The Dark Knight Saga: Falcone gives one to Batman in Batman Begins. This earns him an especially choice headbutt from the Batman later on. Of course, in this case Falcone is wrong and Chill was obviously just trying to sound tough to his mob-boss cellmate (or Falcone was lying). Not only is that not what happened; Bruce knows it wasn't because Bruce was there. The Joker does this to Detective Stephens in The Dark Knight after his first approach fails (Stephens is enough of a veteran that he knows he can't teach a complete psycho a lesson in human decency), although he seemed to have been purposefully trying to provoke him to violence, seeing how he did shoot most of the cops he'd killed up to that point. He's definitely provoking him, as the Joker wants to get Stephens close enough to use him as a Human Shield. |
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In Worm, Jack Slash loves to do this to the friends and family of his many and varied victims, though when Golem, whose entire family he has killed or subjected to a Fate Worse than Death corners him, he doesn't bother because Golem pulls a Shut Up, Hannibal!, making it clear that he's not interested in talking. | |
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One of Pigma's possible dialogue pieces while facing him and the rest of Star Wolf in Star Fox 64 gives a slight bit of detail into his killing of Fox's dad. | |
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Frozen has Hans leaving Anna for dead in the castle after having her heart (accidentally) frozen by Elsa so that he can usurp the throne. He confronts Elsa fighting through a vicious storm, telling her how her sister froze to death because of her powers, leaving Elsa to grieve as he prepares to strike her dead. Her life is only spared when a barely alive Anna rushes in to shield her from his sword, an act of love that saves them both. | |
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Voldemort does this again during the last battle in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when he thinks he's finally succeded in killing Harry, brings Harry's body back to Hogwarts, and then tells a false story to all of the fighters inside the castle about how Harry was killed while trying to escape the battle and save himself. Once again, no one actually believes him. | |
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Bleach has Mayuri Kurotsuchi describing to Ishida in horrific detail, what happened to the Quincy during his experiments on them. The one that really makes it personal is when he described what happened to Ishida's grandfather, and even produced a graphic picture of his remains. Having spied on Uryuu for a while before revealing himself, Mayuri seemed to know exactly who Uryuu was. However, he had no idea just what Berserk Button he had pressed until Uryuu one-shot him in revenge. | |
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The Defenders: Elektra Natchios needs Danny to use the Iron Fist to break down a wall, so she provokes him by taunting him about her slaughter of the monks in K'un-L'un. | |
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Dexter tells Miguel Prado he killed his brother before killing him. | |
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In Batgirl: Future's End, Bane goaded an unnamed warlord's bodyguard into attacking him by describing how he killed his mother and wife and then made himself an espresso while their bodies cooled. | |
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In the "Fallen Angel" episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003), the Purple Dragons have caught Casey, who clearly intends to be Defiant to the End, screaming insults and threats even while locked up: | |
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Justice League. In "Hereafter", Superman is stuck in a Bad Future with Vandal Savage, who took over the world only to accidentally destroy it in the process. Vandal has been the last man on Earth for 30,000 years and so has had plenty of time to regret his actions, so he's not engaging in Evil Gloating. Yet the detached manner in which Savage describes killing Green Lantern and the rest of the League all those millennia ago is even more chilling. Superman, who only left his friends a few months back when he was transported to the future, is so infuriated he seriously contemplates killing Savage on the spot, though it would do no good. | |
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Kimbley pulls this on Major Miles in Fullmetal Alchemist. Considering it's Kimbley, this may be less trying to antagonize Miles as it is a twisted way to try and connect with him. And of course, Miles was only pretending to take it personally to keep Kimbley distracted. Also used by Envy in the manga and Brotherhood to brag to Mustang about how easy it was to kill Hughes by taking the form of his wife. Of course this backfires. Literally. |
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Falcone gives one to Batman in Batman Begins. This earns him an especially choice headbutt from the Batman later on. Of course, in this case Falcone is wrong and Chill was obviously just trying to sound tough to his mob-boss cellmate (or Falcone was lying). Not only is that not what happened; Bruce knows it wasn't because Bruce was there. | |
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In the Highlander episode "Innocent Man", Sheriff Crowley does this to Duncan MacLeod: "Your friend died on his knees, begging for his life." | |
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Harry Potter: When Harry confronts Voldemort for the first time in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Voldy starts by telling him "you'll meet the same end as your parents... they died begging me for mercy...." But when Harry doubts that version, Voldemort quickly agrees that Harry's parents did indeed fight courageously... and still goes on to describe how they died. Which, ironically, did involve Lily begging for mercy before she died...mercy for him to spare Harry's life. The Dementors do this to Harry sort-of-unintentionally: as they force people around them to repeat their worst memories, Harry hears his parents' final moments every time he gets near them. Worse, Harry is almost unwilling to let go of hearing them, as he's never heard their voices. Voldemort does this again during the last battle in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when he thinks he's finally succeded in killing Harry, brings Harry's body back to Hogwarts, and then tells a false story to all of the fighters inside the castle about how Harry was killed while trying to escape the battle and save himself. Once again, no one actually believes him. |
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In Supernatural, Azazel's purpose in ordering the killing of Sam's girlfriend Jessica was to drive Sam to The Dark Side, and this works better if he admits to Sam that he was responsible, sooner or later. The demon who did the actual killing, Brady, also brags about having done so, and his motive appears to be significantly more about evil for its own sake than his master's. | |
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A Dark Brotherhood quest in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion gives you the option to do this to a target, telling him that his mother "bled like a pig" when you killed her. This serves as a convenient way to get him to attack first so you can kill him without getting a bounty from the nearby guard. | |
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In World of Warcraft Cataclysm's Dragon Soul raid, Deathwing, when facing Alexstraza, taunts her about how he turned many members of her flight into mindless Twilight drakes, and how painful a process it was. She, with forced stoicism, says they are no longer of her clutch, and the raid has to kill them. | |
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Early in the movie we learn that a Toon murdered Teddie, Eddie Valiant's brother. When the killer is revealed: | |
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The Order of the Stick: Vaarsuvius, Drunk on the Dark Side as the result of a Deal with the Devil, does this to the Ancient Black Dragon (who's trying to get revenge for V's killing of her son) during their confrontation. Nale boasts to his father, Tarquin about how he killed the latters' best friend Malack: Inverted by a vampire who, knowing that Roy feels guilty over the death of his baby brother, decides to taunt him by asking for more information about the accident that killed him: |
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Randall of The Walking Dead: Michonne not only tells Sam and her family how he killed their father, but he even cruelly jokes and laughs about it to their face. | |
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A non-villain example occurs in The Crow: Salvation when Alex Corvis gives his deceased girlfriend's sister a detailed account of how her sister was raped and murdered in order to convince her that he was Wrongly Accused. | |
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The Joker does this to Detective Stephens in The Dark Knight after his first approach fails (Stephens is enough of a veteran that he knows he can't teach a complete psycho a lesson in human decency), although he seemed to have been purposefully trying to provoke him to violence, seeing how he did shoot most of the cops he'd killed up to that point. He's definitely provoking him, as the Joker wants to get Stephens close enough to use him as a Human Shield. |
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There's a couple of rather nasty one for the Human Noble origin from Arl Rendon Howe in Dragon Age: Origins: "Your parents died on their knees. Your brother's corpse rots in Ostagar; and his brat was burned on a scrap heap, along with his Antivan whore of a wife. And what's left? A fool husk of a son likely to end his days under a rock in the Deep Roads". You can find out later that Fergus is alive, though it will hardly be obvious. | |
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In Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Guy of Gisborne tries to goad Robin into a fight by talking about killing his father. "Your father died cursing your name and squealing like a stuck pig!" | |
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In Assassin's Creed: Revelations, Swami tells Altair that, right before Altair's son, Sef, was killed, Swami told Sef that it was on his Altaïr's orders, so that he died thinking his father had betrayed him. | |
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While exploring Kellogg's memories in Fallout 4, he's shown taking revenge on a gang for the murder of his wife and infant daughter. The voice heard in the hallways only has a downplayed version of this trope to say: | |
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Hansel does this to Balalaika in Black Lagoon when describing how one of her men died — given how insane he is, whether or not it was an attempt at enraging her or just his general sadism is anyone's guess. Whichever way, Balalaika's response was probably not one he was expecting. | |
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In a rare heroic case, in Die Hard, John McClane shouts at a bad guy, "You should have heard how your brother squealed—when I broke his FUCKING NECK!!!" | |
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In Smallville, Desaad taunts Oliver by saying how Chloe died screaming his name, provoking Oliver into pummeling him. She is not dead, and Oliver's reaction is what Desaad is counting on. | |
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In The Flash, Wally pursued Bart Allen's Evil Twin Inertia after Inertia's scheme to steal Bart's Speed Force caused Bart's death. When Wally finally got his hands on Inertia, the little jerk spitefully and gleefully told Wally that Bart "died screaming like a little bitch". It doesn't end well for Inertia. | |
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In Mass Effect 3, If Kai Leng killed either Thane or Kirrahe during the Cerberus attack on the Citadel, he'll make it a point to say that they died like cowards during his boss fight in Thessia. Of course, considering that those cases were Heroic Sacrifices and Kai Leng is not above throwing gunships and mooks at Shepard during their fights and running when things do not go his way, it just makes him look like a Hypocrite, which Shepard calls him out on when s/he's fighting him for the last time completely shutting him up. | |
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Just before the Sonya vs. Kano fight from Mortal Kombat, Kano taunts her by brandishing his Raptor knife, and mentioning how he used it to put a big smile on Sonya's partner, "ear... to ear," before murdering him. | |
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Banshees in Fable II sometimes taunt your hero by saying something calculated to cause them as much sorrow as possible. Occasionally, this trope will come into play: | |
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In Snow White and the Huntsman, Finn raped and murdered the Huntsman's wife. Finn admits that she fought well, but claims that she died cursing her husband for not being there to protect her. Right after he says this, the Huntsman impales him on a tree stump. | |
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Lethal Weapon 2. Martin Riggs, the protagonist with a dead wife issue is about to be killed, and Peter van Horscht sits down to tell him a couple of things. Needless to say, since Riggs is a Determinator, and this revelation is essentially Riggs' Berserk Button, it doesn't turn out well. |
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Gauron from Full Metal Panic! loves to do this. He's shown doing this to a minor character, and does this in a more notable instance to Sousuke during TSR. Towards the minor character, Gauron laughs and tells the guy that he's the last one, and that some of his comrades died crying and begging for their life. This pisses the guy off enough to send him into a berserk rage. Too bad he's just a small side character that ends up getting blown up. And in TSR, Gauron volunteers a (fake) detailed description of how Kaname died to Sousuke. Including how her cute uniform was in tatters, but that she never begged for her life, and that her last words were "I'm sorry" to Sousuke. This pisses Sousuke off to the point where he shoots the hell out of Gauron. Which was exactly what Gauron wanted, the Manipulative Bastard. | |
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On Lost, Psycho for Hire Keamy gloats about killing Ben's daughter and is promptly stabbed to death by him a few minutes later. | |
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A non-evil example happens in an episode of The Cleveland Show. When Cleveland accidentally runs over the Tubbs' dog and is afraid of telling them, Tim advises him to confess and "don't leave out any details". He does...by thoroughly and graphically describing how the dog died. | |
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Ga-Rei -Zero-: Yomi gives the rundown of the named characters she's killed under the Sesshouseki to Kagura before their penultimate confrontation. Like how most of them begged for their lives. And how much she enjoyed it. | |
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In Joker's Last Laugh, while getting brutally beaten by Nightwing, the Joker gives one of his best lines ever. | |
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Curtis Blackburn does this to his partner Pedro in one of the more infamous (and horrific scenes) in killer7. "Your wife... has a mole in a very unique place..." | |
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In Rush Hour 2, as Lee has Ricky Tan at gunpoint and Carter shows up, Ricky asks Lee if he would like to know how his father had died. Carter tells Lee not to lose his temper, but when Ricky insults Lee's father, Carter goes "Okay, now he's gone too far. Shoot his ass, Lee!". | |
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Gladiator: "They tell me your son squealed like a girl when they nailed him to the cross. And your wife moaned like a whore when they ravaged her again...and again...and again." | |
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Dragon Ball Super: During the Future Trunks Saga, Goku Black, being an alternate version of Zamasu who used the Dragon Balls to pull off a Grand Theft Me on an alternate version of Goku, does this to the "main" Goku, revealing that after stealing the alternate Goku's body, the very first thing he did was kill the other Goku, and then his family. | |
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Diary of a Hitman (1991). Forest Whitaker plays the eponymous hitman, who's hired to kill the ex-wife of the client, and her baby. The hitman isn't happy about this, so taunts the client with this trope when it's time to pick up his payment (as it happens, he hasn't killed either one.) | |
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A Song of Ice and Fire: During the duel between Oberyn Martell and Gregor Clegane, Martell tries to get Clegane to admit to the murder of Martell's sister and her children. Clegane finally admits it once he's got Martell trapped in a bear hug. | |
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In One Piece, Diamante asks Rebecca this before callously explaining how he killed her mother. | |
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In Code Geass, Lelouch, the main character, in his Zero guise, does this to Euphemia, about her half-brother, Clovis. in episode 8. "He begged pathetically for his life with the same tongue that ordered the death of countless Elevens," but he was still her brother. Extra tragic considering that Lelouch is actually also their half-brother, and Clovis and Euphie loved him more than any of their other siblings did. | |
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Taken to extremes with Dark General Argon in Sailor Nothing. For additional measure, he takes the time to deconstruct the heroes' motives in the process. As it turns out, he is intentionally trying to make the hero as enraged as possible because it's the only way she'll ever be able to kill him. | |
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In The Voyage of the Jerle Shannara. Cree Bega puts Ahren Elessedil through this during the lead-up to their final Knife Fight, asking him if he'd like to know what happened to his crush, Ryer Ord Star, after she was handed over to Cree Bega and his henchmen. | |
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Game of Thrones: After Sandor Clegane's rather impressive battle with Brienne of Tarth in the Season 4 finale; he tries to pull this on Arya, so that she would give him a quick death, by commenting on what he did to her friend Mycah the butcher's boy and talking of how he should have raped Sansa. It doesn't work at all, and he is left screaming for Arya to come and kill him. | |
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In Sard Harker, Hirsch tries this on Don Miguel with respect to Don Miguel's fiancée, as a show of bravado after being captured, but is interrupted before he can go into detail. | |
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The Princess Bride. The Man in Black tells Buttercup about the last moments of her love Westley (there's more to it than that, however): | |
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In Deus Ex: Human Revolution, we have this. | |
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Fuminori does this to Kouji in Saya no Uta. | |
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The Hateful 8 had Warren's tale of how he forced General Smithers' son to walk naked in the snow for hours, then perform oral sex on him before he died of exposure. Whether or not it's actually true or just Warren trying to goad Smithers into picking up the gun he left next to him so he could kill Smithers and claim self-defense is anyone's guess. | |
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Seymour does this in Final Fantasy X when he describes how he slaughtered the Ronso tribe. | |
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Doctor Who has a rare case of a heroic character using this against a villain, when Rose Tyler taunts a Dalek by telling it how she killed the Dalek Emperor in the previous season. | |
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Heroic version in Eclipse, when Edward taunts Victoria about how he tore James to pieces and burned his body, in order to enrage Victoria enough to break cover and attack him recklessly. | |
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Robin Vol 1: When Clyde Rawlins finally gets to confront Edmund Dorrance, who had killed his wife and children, Dorrance gleefully starts describing their deaths when he realizes who he is, then when Rawlins lunges at him, continues describing their deaths as he beats Rawlins to death. | |
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Criminal Minds: One team of unsubs tortured women to death and then sent DVDs to their families. The Boston Reaper threatened to do this to Jack: "I'm going to find that little bastard son of yours and show him your dead bodies and tell him it's all your fault." |
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A villain does this to Jubei in Ninja Scroll: The Series; he is lying and just trying to piss Jubei off to help him kill a parasite in him. | |
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Fable: Fable: The Lost Chapters added some extra dialogue during what was the final boss of the original, where Jack of Blades taunts you about killing your father. Banshees in Fable II sometimes taunt your hero by saying something calculated to cause them as much sorrow as possible. Occasionally, this trope will come into play: |
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Frank Nitti tells Elliot Ness how he killed Jim Malone in The Untouchables. It doesn't end well for Nitti. | |
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Happens in the Tracker pilot. Rhee gloats that Cole's daughter "went slowly", and Cole responds with "So will you" and proceeds to make the life force collection very slow. Apparently it's more painful when done slowly. | |
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In Highlander, the Kurgan gloats over killing Connor's mentor. "Ramirez was an effete snob who died on his knees..." he says, and then reveals a terrible secret that was kept from Connor for almost 450 years that the Kurgan raped "Ramirez's woman" after he killed him . . . the woman was actually Connor's wife - it's that part that hits home. The Kurgan then deduces (correctly) whose lover his victim was, and claims she never told Connor because the Kurgan was a better lover . . . the more likely reason was to prevent her husband getting himself killed in a Roaring Rampageof Revenge against an enemy who had killed an opponent with over 1000 years more sword-fighting experience than Connor. | |
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Another heroic version occurs in The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (2015). Napoleon Solo has to get Victoria Vinciguerra to respond to his radio signal in order to zero in on her location, so he tells her that he killed her husband (true) and that he begged for mercy and gave her up (untrue). | |
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Heroes and heroines usually don't do this but Buffy taunts The Mayor into chasing her by reminiscing about how she stabbed Faith a day or so ago. It works. | |
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Played with in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, when Moriarty is the one who breaks the news to Holmes that Irene Adler is dead. He presents Holmes with a bloodstained handkerchief and claims she died from a rare strain of tuberculosis, but Holmes reads between the lines and deduces that Moriarty had her poisoned. Turned around in a way with Sherlock doing it to Moriarty. While Moriarty targeted some one close to Holmes, there really wasn't such a person to Moriarty that Sherlock could exploit (Moriarty being a sociopath, and Holmes really isn't that kind of guy anyway). Moriarty does, however, have a vast fortune from his covert war profiteering that Sherlock completely depleted in a brilliant sleight of hand, and Sherlock described in detail how he did it. And then he scores a discovered checkmate. |
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Dragon Ball Z: Arriving on the battlefield after his resurrection, Goku sees the dead bodies of his friends, but one is missing. Cue Nappa gloating about how one fighter (Chaotzu) blew himself up in a futile attempt to defeat him. This is the moment which inspires the "Over Nine Thousand" meme. After incapacitating Goku, Frieza lies to Gohan and claims that Goku died begging for mercy and crying like a baby. Dragon Ball Super: During the Future Trunks Saga, Goku Black, being an alternate version of Zamasu who used the Dragon Balls to pull off a Grand Theft Me on an alternate version of Goku, does this to the "main" Goku, revealing that after stealing the alternate Goku's body, the very first thing he did was kill the other Goku, and then his family. |
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In The Last Witch Hunter, Belial taunt Kaulder over the phone about how he killed Miranda. | |
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The soldiers in Broken Saints do this to Oran just before the fight. | |
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Breaking Bad's has this as possibly Walter White's biggest and cruelest Kick the Dog moment in the entire series. After letting Jesse be taken to be tortured by the neo-nazis, still angry over Hank's death, Walter decides to stop Jesse just long enough to tell him that he saw his girlfriend, Jane, overdose and choke to death. He mentions that he could have saved her, but decided not to. Jesse is so broken by this revelation that he doesn't even try to fight back anymore. Earlier, Gus Fring also did this to Hector "Tio" Salamanca, telling him face to face that he poisoned the whole Cartel (naming all the members who died) and Hector's grandson Joaquin was killed, finishing his speech introducing Jesse, who's Joaquin's killer and saying that the Salamanca name will die with Hector. The incapacitated Hector could do nothing but cry in anger. |
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The Lion King has Scar doing this during the final battle to Simba, who was blaming himself all movie for the death of his father. Which is all the provocation Simba needs to turn the battle around and kick Scar's ass. | |
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In the Safe Ending of Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors, Ace decides to tell Snake how great it was to kill his sister. This results in Snake, after taking six shots from Ace's gun, getting up and pinning Ace down inside an incinerator that's about to turn on, killing them both. | |
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