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The Gods Themselves
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1972 novel by Isaac Asimov. Features a seemingly perfect solution to Earthling energy needs, a parallel universe with really unusual aliens, and a Lunar colony with separatist tendencies.Extremely atypical for Asimov's work, most of the story focuses on sex note Asimov's science fiction works were known for not featuring aliens, and he mostly avoided romantic plots including never depicting sex, so in a completely out of character book for him, he featured aliens having sex. and a trio of aliens named Odeen, Dua, and Tritt.note More or less the Russian words for "one", "two", and "three". Their species has three genders, and the three of them are a "triad". Dua is of the emotional gender, but she is considered an intellectual compared to the rest of her kind. Their planet is host to two species, divided into "Soft Ones" and genderless beings known as "Hard Ones" (due to the plot-important fact that atomic forces are weak in their universe and Soft Ones have sex by overlapping their bodies).Typical for Asimov's work, most of the book is them having conversations. Dua discusses a recently-built trans-dimensional reactor with one of her mates. He explains that the reactor connects to a universe populated by humans. It turns out that the Hard Ones went to great lengths to convince the humans to build machinery on their end, and the reactor works on the principle of isobar exchange — that is, two substances, each stable in only one universe, decay one into the other and are constantly swapped around.Dua comes to the conclusion that the reactor has minor long-term effects for their universe, because the machine causes the laws of physics to bleed between universes, making their cold and dying stars burn out slower. However, she is is shocked when she comes to a parallel conclusion, that the reactor will cause stars in the human universe to burn faster in a dramatic fashion, possibly causing a supernova in a matter of decades.Meanwhile on Earth, a scientist talks about how the reactor works so that the reader understands the conflict. He is trying to experimentally prove that the sun is burning hotter. Unfortunately, the free, clean energy the reactor produces is far too convenient and he can't get the government to do anything about it. Fortunately, two scientists on the Moon are trying out a third option. | |
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Caused the Big Bang | |
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Caused the Big Bang: The heroes state at the end that the way they are draining the energy from yet another universe (which is all a single star) will eventually cause a Big Bang by making the star go supernova. It is unknown whether it happened in our universe, since spontaneous leakages are quite possible. | |
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Dying Race | |
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Dying Race: Due to their sun running out, the parallel universe civilization numbers only about ten thousand as of the beginning of the story. Dua thinks about "perhaps thousands" of people dying when the Pump explodes the Sun, blissfully unaware that Earth's current population is about 2 billion (used to be 6 billion, but the Great Crisis happened). | |
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Aliens Speaking English | |
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Aliens Speaking English: The first third of the book revolves around the receipt of an alien message by a science historian, Lamont; he recruits Bronowski, a professor of archaeo-linguistics, to decipher the symbols. In the second part, we see the aliens' side of the exchange. The aliens, or at least Dua, master English through empathy | |
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Bizarre Alien Biology | |
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Bizarre Alien Biology: The Soft Ones have three sexes: Rational/left, Emotional/mid and Parental/right, which reproduce by fusing their bodies together at the intermolecular level ("melting"). When a triad of Soft Ones "melt" (that is, mate), they temporarily form a mature solid form (a Hard One) with the fused mind of the three Soft Ones, but don't remember this after they separate (the Hard One does, however, remember its previous periods of consciousness when it is formed again). Nonetheless, this fusion is related to reproduction, being the means by which new Soft Ones are conceived (one at a time) to grow to term inside the Parental of the triad. There is an order to the pregnancies so that each triad will produce at least one full triad of offspring before they grow out of the breeding stage and finally merge permanently as a Hard One. The Hard Ones are genderless and act in a parental/mentor advisory role to the Soft Ones (though the Parental Soft Ones act as parents to the babies when the latter are very young). | |
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Most Writers Are Human | |
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Most Writers Are Human: Asimov purposefully avoided aliens in most of his books, precisely because he was frustrated with this trope. "Aliens" created by other authors never felt realistically alien to him, and his own efforts impressed him no better.note Also, the magazine editor he frequently worked with had an "aliens must be evil" policy, which he found distasteful. As a result, most of his aliens are unabashedly humans-from-other-planets, caused by the plot requiring a species from another planet to work ("Nightfall" can't take place on Earth, or really involve someone with knowledge of the larger universe, for example). His most notable effort at creating truly alien aliens would be for this work, but while they are quite alien biologically, they still sound a lot like humans in character. | |
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Title Drop | |
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Title Drop: The title of the book and the titles of each of the three parts are said by the first part's main character in one quote ("Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain," first said by the German playwright Friedrich Schiller). | |
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Gone Horribly Wrong | |
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Gone Horribly Wrong: The aliens helped humanity build the source of clean unlimited power. Unfortunately, it will blow up the sun and hasten the heat death of the aliens' universe. | |
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Literary Allusion Title | |
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Literary Allusion Title: Takes its title from Schiller's "Die Jungfrau von Orleans". | |
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IKEA Erotica | |
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IKEA Erotica: The descriptions of "melting" and other Soft Ones practices tend to read like this. To someone from the para-universe, though, these accounts would probably be pretty racy. | |
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Title Drop Chapter | |
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Title Drop Chapter: The second of the three parts is titled "The Gods Themselves". The three titles form a quotation that is the epigraph of the whole book. | |
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Tomato in the Mirror | |
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Tomato in the Mirror: Throughout the second part, Dua has learned about how the Electron Pump the Hard Ones have been creating with the aid of beings from another universe (humans) will doom that universe to destruction — and eventually begins attempting to sabotage the effort by sending the messages the first part's characters use to discover the flaw. At the end of the part, when her triad-mates save her from death and reveal that their destiny is to combine into a Hard One, her last individual thought is to realize that she/they were the Hard One who was the Evil Genius driving the project forward. | |
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Older Than They Look | |
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Older Than They Look: A minor example with the Moon people. The low gravity causes the visible signs of aging to appear later | |
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Fusion Dance | |
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Fusion Dance: The Soft Ones come in three different genders (Rational, Parental and Emotional) who use this to have sex and create their mature, final solid form, the Hard Ones. | |
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It Will Never Catch On | |
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It Will Never Catch On: All the people working with Hallam on the plutonium-186 research were afraid to go public in case it would ruin their careers. Then it turned out they got a free source of unlimited energy, and the very public Hallam ended up with all the prestige. | |
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Starfish Aliens | |
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Starfish Aliens: Neither of the alien species is physically described in much detail, but the soft ones are apparently amorphous or gas-like, have three genders, and feed by photosynthesis. | |
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Cryptic Background Reference | |
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Cryptic Background Reference: "Just about the time the Lunar colony was being established, Earth went through the Great Crisis. I don't have to tell you about that." But it apparently killed about 4 billion people. | |
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Out with a Bang | |
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Out with a Bang: The Soft Ones reproduce by "melting", an extended period of time in which they physically merge with their other two partners. Afterwards, one of them gives birth. The children's sexes always occur in a specific order, and all the members of the triad die some time after the birth of the third child (long ago, some triples had six, thus providing the answer to the obvious problem with mathematics. Today, the energy shortage doesn't allow that anymore). Subverted because we eventually discover (along with the viewpoint Soft Ones themselves) that they don't actually die, they permanently merge and become a "Hard One", which up until now the Soft Ones and the reader have been led to believe is a different race. This also occurs temporarily during the other meltings, though the Soft Ones retain no memories of this. | |
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Never Heard That One Before | |
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Never Heard That One Before: Selene (pronounced "sell any") is quick to point out that whatever joke her name brings to mind she's heard it already. | |
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Real Award, Fictional Character | |
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Real Award, Fictional Character: Hallam received a Nobel prize for his work (well, he's actually a Fake Ultimate Hero, but still). | |
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Mister Seahorse | |
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Mister Seahorse: When the Soft Ones breed, the one that actually carries the child is the Parental, and Parentals are consistently referred to by Asimov as "he". | |
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Not of This Earth | |
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Not of This Earth: Plutonium-186. Chemists and physicists are befuddled by an isotope of plutonium whose nuclei shouldn't hold together for more than a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, according to the natural laws of our universe. Then, one scientist realizes that the reason plutonium-186 can be stable is because it brought a bit of the physics of its home universe with it. | |
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Narnia Time | |
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Narnia Time: At the end of the first part, Lamont is wondering why there have been no new messages from the parallel universe for two weeks. The end of the second part reveals the one writing messages took an overly long lunch. | |
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The Resenter | |
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The Resenter: Oh boy. Hallam to Denison at the start and anyone who dares question him later. Denison and Lamont to Hallam. Neville to all "Earthies" and to Selene for being mentally faster than him. And that's just in our universe. | |
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Beige Prose | |
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Beige Prose: A later Asimov work, Gold, has a bunch of frustrated film writers disparately try to cobble together a screen adaptation of The Gods Themselves, cursing Asimov's dialogue laden, non-descriptive, and beige prose the entire way. | |
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All of the Other Reindeer | |
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All of the Other Reindeer: Dua versus the other Emotionals. Lamont kind of comes to see himself this way, too. | |
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Two Beings, One Body | |
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Two Beings, One Body: The aliens merge three into one as a part of their reproductive cycle. | |
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Big Eater | |
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Big Eater: Bronowski's constant snacking. Inverted for Dua, whose dislike of eating (photosynthesising, which is a social activity for Emotionals, and she doesn't get along with the others, which makes her even more reluctant to eat) drives quite a bit of the plot. | |
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Complete-the-Quote Title | |
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Complete-the-Quote Title: "The Gods Themselves" refers to a longer quote from Friedrich Schiller, which makes up the titles of its three acts: "Against Stupidity ... The Gods Themselves ... Contend in Vain." Fitting, since the willful stupidity of certain characters literally threatens to destroy the world. | |
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Unusual Chapter Numbers | |
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Unusual Chapter Numbers: Part 1, "Against Stupidity...", starts with chapter 6 before flashing back to chapters 1-5 (i.e. the story is told out of order, but the chapters are numbered in strict chronological order). In Part 2, "... The Gods Themselves...", all the chapters (except for the last one) are split into three parts (i.e. 1a, 1b, 1c, then 2a, etc.); each letter corresponds to Odeen, Dua, or Tritt, and all of the action in each subchapter takes place at roughly the same time. | |
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Minovsky Physics | |
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Minovsky Physics: Takes the premise of beings from another universe sending an impossible isotope of plutonium into ours, and extrapolates the consequences to drive much of the plot. For instance, the other universe's physics leak into our universe along with the plutonium-186... | |
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Super Breeding Program | |
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Super Breeding Program: One in each universe, as it turns out, though the one in ours is officially over and done with. Officially is the word. Selene points out that it's not easy to ban scientific research, and the Moon has a number of scientists researching the subject. There is some suspicion about her being a descendant of a test subject from the original attempt. | |
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N-Word Privileges | |
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N-Word Privileges: Denison claims he can call himself a Lunar slur for Earthman, because he is an Earthman. | |
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Exposition Intuition | |
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Exposition Intuition: This is a recognized talent on the Moon, called "intuitionism". Selene has it, and it proves really helpful. In parallel universe, Emotionals have it, but only Dua makes real use of it. | |
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Common Tongue | |
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Common Tongue: Planetary Standard, spoken on Earth and Moon. | |
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Dysfunction Junction | |
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Dysfunction Junction: Explored with Earth's politics and academia as the example. | |
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Sex as Rite-of-Passage | |
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Sex as Rite-of-Passage: In the alternate universe, there are three kinds of gaseous people and a kind of solid people. The solid people are the merging — which is their analog of sex — of three gaseous people. | |
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Bait-and-Switch | |
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Bait-and-Switch: At the beginning of Part III, it initially seems as if the protagonist, a scientist who was disgraced after trying to raise awareness about the risks of the electron pump, is Lamont, the protagonist of Part I, before it turns out he is actually Chekhov's Gunman Denison. | |
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When Dimensions Collide | |
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When Dimensions Collide: Because the matter transferred by the Electron Pump alters cosmological constants, it will eventually cause Earth's sun to go nova. | |
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Cultural Cringe | |
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Cultural Cringe: Aggressively averted by the “Loonies�. Soft Ones, especially Rationals, seem to have a straightforward case of this towards Hard Ones. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_91e894b4 | type |
Apocalypse How | |
The Gods Themselves / int_91e894b4 | comment |
Apocalypse How: Potentially a galactic-scale one or worse. However, the para-universe scientists know about it and don't care. They think they can use the energy from Sun going nova and it's going to last them for the rest of their civilisation's lifetime. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_93c04c8a | type |
Future Food Is Artificial | |
The Gods Themselves / int_93c04c8a | comment |
Future Food Is Artificial: At least on the Moon. The para-universe is currently developing "artificial food", which is actually artificial lighting, since they are photosynthetic lifeforms. Dua says it tastes awful, and there are also some urban legends about it being bad for health. By the end of the paraverse segment, the taste problem is solved. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_950bbfa7 | type |
Take a Third Option | |
The Gods Themselves / int_950bbfa7 | comment |
Take a Third Option: In the third part, "...Contend in Vain?", the protagonist discovers another method of generating energy that can be used to cancel the physics-changing side effects of the Electron Pump, conveniently avoiding the choice between dooming Earth to power shortages and dooming the sun to go supernova. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_9943823 | type |
Reactionless Drive | |
The Gods Themselves / int_9943823 | comment |
Reactionless Drive: Asimov managed to come up with a fully thought through mechanism for this that doesn't involve abandoning conservation of momentum. There might not be anything to push against where you are in this universe, but what about the one next door? | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_9dbb9688 | type |
Fantastic Honorifics | |
The Gods Themselves / int_9dbb9688 | comment |
Fantastic Honorifics: The Soft ones address the Hard ones as "Hard-sir" while the Hard ones affectionately call their Rational students "left-dear". | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_aa596c58 | type |
The War of Earthly Aggression | |
The Gods Themselves / int_aa596c58 | comment |
The War of Earthly Aggression: Potentially brewing between Earth and the lunar colony. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_ab173bb0 | type |
Permafusion | |
The Gods Themselves / int_ab173bb0 | comment |
Permafusion: The "Soft Ones" and the "Hard Ones" are the names of two species of aliens that live in a Parallel Universe. The Soft Ones are gaseous beings with three sexes. They have sex by "melting", i.e. by having one Soft One of each sex inhabit the same space at the same time. The Hard Ones have a fixed shape and rule over the Soft Ones. Unbeknownst to the Soft Ones, the Hard Ones are the result of three Soft ones permanently melting into one being, which has the memories of the three Soft Ones that became it but can have a completely different personality. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_af98df4e | type |
They Called Me Mad! | |
The Gods Themselves / int_af98df4e | comment |
They Called Me Mad!: Most of the major achievements of the characters — proving the plutonium isotope is otherworldly, discovering the flaw in the Pump, Dua intuiting how to leave messages for the humans — are made to humiliate their enemies. Denison and Selene manage to earn their victory by being willing to set aside their grudges — Denison decides to let Lamont get the glory of humiliating Hallam, for example. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_b6d4b44e | type |
Lightworlder | |
The Gods Themselves / int_b6d4b44e | comment |
Lightworlder: Everyone born and raised on the Moon, which is why Denison and Selene aren't having sex - he'd break her. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_b7c85c86 | type |
Free-Love Future | |
The Gods Themselves / int_b7c85c86 | comment |
Free-Love Future: The inhabitants of the Moon don't seem to practice marriage. Their relationships are fairly loose - then again, with child permits and children being raised in some sort of a communal way, there's little incentive to try and form nuclear families. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_b7c85c86 | |
The Gods Themselves / int_ba5bd7 | type |
Ignored Expert | |
The Gods Themselves / int_ba5bd7 | comment |
Ignored Expert: No fewer than three Jor-Els attempting to warn Earth of danger. One is an alien and the two others are human. The name of the novel (as well as those of the three parts) comes from the quote, "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_ba8b13ad | type |
Catch-22 Dilemma | |
The Gods Themselves / int_ba8b13ad | comment |
Catch-22 Dilemma: Lamont runs into one. The only way to get the data to support his theory is by getting access to the Lunar particle accelerator. However, no one can get that access against the wishes of Hallam. Going against Hallam is suicide unless Lamont makes him lose power by proving his theory. Subverted in the third part, when it turns out the particle accelerator isn't the only option, since Luna has much cheaper devices which can serve the same purpose. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_bc5e5a8 | type |
Compound Title | |
The Gods Themselves / int_bc5e5a8 | comment |
Compound Title: Title Drop in 3 parts: "Against Stupidity...", "... The Gods Themselves...", and "... Contend In Vain?". | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_bc74ef27 | type |
Berserk Button | |
The Gods Themselves / int_bc74ef27 | comment |
Berserk Button: Never, ever suggest to Hallam that he is not really the inventor of the Pump. One guy got blackballed and driven to revenge for merely bringing it up, in the course of writing a book about what a genius Hallam is. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_c05de85d | type |
Mindlink Mates | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c05de85d | comment |
Mindlink Mates: To an extent, the Soft Ones - members of the triad can sense each other's presence and emotions. Emotionals excel at it, and Parentals redirect this ability towards babies to better sense their needs. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_c446f93c | type |
Artistic License – Nuclear Physics | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c446f93c | comment |
Artistic License – Nuclear Physics: Spectacularly averted and/or subverted: when a radio-chemist discovers a radioactive element that cannot possibly exist under the known laws of physics — it turns out to be from another universe where the laws of physics are sufficiently different that it can exist there! | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_c4c4004a | type |
Treachery Cover-Up | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c4c4004a | comment |
Treachery Cover Up: Hallam is guilty of stealing the work of other scientists, ruining at least two careers due to personal grudges, and hindering all attempts to save Earth from a supernova for the sake of prestige. In the end, it is mentioned that Hallam will lose most of his influence, but will probably retain some honorable position and won't be prosecuted... exposing the greatest genius of humanity as a total fraud will cause too much damage to the prestige of science. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_c83a589c | type |
Luke, I Am Your Father | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c83a589c | comment |
Luke, I Am Your Father: Blink and you'll miss it, but Odeen reveals to Dua that Losten was formed by her parents. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_c83a589c | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c852ac43 | type |
Mars and Venus Gender Contrast | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c852ac43 | comment |
Mars and Venus Gender Contrast: A three-way version for the relationships between Rationals, Emotionals and Parentals, both in general and within the triads. Ironically so for the protagonist triad, since they are less trimorphic than "normal". | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_c9993b95 | type |
Bureaucratically Arranged Marriage | |
The Gods Themselves / int_c9993b95 | comment |
Bureaucratically Arranged Marriage: The Hard Ones actively select triad partners for the Soft Ones. This is to ensure the resulting Hard one has desired characteristics. Marriage also seems to be compulsory, although the Hard Ones take care to pick partners who work well together. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_ca85e684 | type |
Power Trio | |
The Gods Themselves / int_ca85e684 | comment |
Power Trio: Odeen (brains and empathy), Dua (empathy and brains) and Tritt (instinct and initiative). | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_cd170d22 | type |
Space Is Magic | |
The Gods Themselves / int_cd170d22 | comment |
Space Is Magic: Written largely in response to this trope. Asimov once heard Robert Silverberg make up an isotope off the top of his head, plutonium-186. When Asimov pointed out that said isotope does not and cannot exist, Silverberg responded "So what?" Asimov, who was never one to back down from a challenge (even a self-imposed one) decided to work out under what conditions plutonium-186 could be possible. He concluded that it would have to be in a parallel universe where the laws of physics behaved differently than they do here (such as the strong force being a lot stronger than it is in our universe). He went on to figure out how such a universe would operate, and eventually developed his ideas into what he considered his most ambitious novel. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_d17a0ba4 | type |
Living Polyhedron | |
The Gods Themselves / int_d17a0ba4 | comment |
Living Polyhedron: The Rationals and Parentals are ellipsoids and parallelepipeds, respectively. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_d32d01aa | type |
Sterility Plague | |
The Gods Themselves / int_d32d01aa | comment |
Sterility Plague: Dua comes to conclusion the Hard Ones suffer from this due to their sun cooling and the resulting starvation, and that the Soft Ones are a kind of Robot Buddy child substitute they have created to make up for this. She's, needless to say, quite wrong. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_d8dace79 | type |
Asimov's Three Kinds of Science Fiction | |
The Gods Themselves / int_d8dace79 | comment |
Asimov's Three Kinds of Science Fiction: The characters converse about a trans-dimensional reactor that supplies the energy needs of at least humankind and an alien race, each inhabiting their own universe. The extensive conversation allows the reader to learn the intricacies and dire, long-term, unintended consequences of the use of such technology. The reactor exploits the (fictional) isobar exchange, where two identical substances can be swapped between two parallel universes to generate energy — the problem is that it causes one of the universes to approach its heat death sooner, and the other's stars to go supernova easier. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_da3043c5 | type |
Fake Ultimate Hero | |
The Gods Themselves / int_da3043c5 | comment |
Fake Ultimate Hero: Hallam. Everyone believes he is the one to give them the Electron Pump. In reality, the main idea was stolen, while the rest of the work was done by people who were afraid to take credit in time or by the aliens themselves. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_dcbe8a6e | type |
Chekhov's Gunman | |
The Gods Themselves / int_dcbe8a6e | comment |
Chekhov's Gunman: Doctor Denison becomes the protagonist of the third part after only being mentioned in the first part as the person who sank into obscurity after his insult spurned Hallam into his career. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_dd8deee1 | type |
Xenofiction | |
The Gods Themselves / int_dd8deee1 | comment |
Xenofiction: Asimov had been criticized in the past for not having aliens or sex in his novels. This one has aliens, sex, and alien sex. And very alien aliens, at that. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_df6a6ad3 | type |
Speculative Fiction LGBT | |
The Gods Themselves / int_df6a6ad3 | comment |
Speculative Fiction LGBT: Set in a parallel dimension in which there are three distinct genders that also function as guilds/houses that one may be sorted into (rationals, emotionals, and parentals). One of the main characters, Dua, is technically an emotional, but has a lot of a rational in her, so in a way, non-binary (non-trinary). | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_e11b003d | type |
Translation Convention | |
The Gods Themselves / int_e11b003d | comment |
Translation Convention: The entire second section, told about and by Starfish Aliens. The Earth/Moon language used in the other two sections may also be an example. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_e1836adf | type |
Bizarre Alien Sexes | |
The Gods Themselves / int_e1836adf | comment |
Bizarre Alien Sexes: The Soft Ones have three sexes: Rational/left, Emotional/mid and Parental/right, which reproduce by fusing their bodies together and "melting". | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_e1fa333c | type |
Hannibal Lecture | |
The Gods Themselves / int_e1fa333c | comment |
Hannibal Lecture: Senator Burt to Lamont. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_edfacbac | type |
Covert Pervert | |
The Gods Themselves / int_edfacbac | comment |
Covert Pervert: Dua, with her "Left-Em" tendencies and her tendency to merge with rocks. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_fb0382ea | type |
Merger of Souls | |
The Gods Themselves / int_fb0382ea | comment |
Merger of Souls: This is how the Soft Ones in the parallel universe have sex. It's also how the Hard Ones are formed, when the last mating becomes permanent. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_fc50f82 | type |
Intangibility | |
The Gods Themselves / int_fc50f82 | comment |
Intangibility: The Soft Ones are capable of that, to an extent. Dua becomes really good at it after weeks of hiding inside the rocks. | |
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The Gods Themselves / int_fcae81a2 | type |
We Will Not Have Appendixes in the Future | |
The Gods Themselves / int_fcae81a2 | comment |
We Will Not Have Appendixes in the Future: The eugenics-conscious moon separatists want to use genetic engineering to get rid of various organs they consider unnecessary, like molars (the artificial food of the Moon requires little chewing). | |
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