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One day, someone decides to create a work of fiction which turns out to be a huge success. To cash in on its success, numerous spinoffs and licensed material might be produced that are centered on that particular work, with many of them claiming to be canonical with the original work. But then from out of nowhere, the creator decides to produce their official follow-up which flat-out contradicts what happened in the spinoff material. Looks like the writer of that one tie-in book was too hasty with killing that seemingly unimportant character. Or they incorrectly predicted how the aftermath of the original story would turn out. Alternatively, spin-offs or other additional material created for an on-going Long Runner is eventually contradicted when the original work visits the same subject. In the case of an anime contradicting the on-going manga it's adapting, it's common for the anime to outright ignore their version and pretend it never happened. This usually happens because the creator is unaware of the spinoff material (after all, it may have faded into obscurity during the Sequel Gap) or because they have deliberately chosen to retcon the spinoff out of existence, or there was simply miscommunication between the creator and the tie-in writers. When it comes to fandom if this happens, at best it'll just be considered an Alternate Continuity. Avoiding this trope is often the reason why Filler material has so little substance to it. See also Overtook the Manga. This may result in Canon Foreigner. Compare Series Continuity Error, where two or more installments of the same branch of a franchise unintentionally contradict each other. See also Early-Installment Weirdness and Continuity Snarl. Often results in Characterization Marches On when a character from the original work ends up behaving differently in the followup than they are depicted in the spinoffs. Not to be confused with Schrödinger's Canon, where there's still a chance that the spin-off in question might be considered canonical. The Fanon counterpart to this trope is Outdated by Canon, and for mere fan theories it's Jossed. See also Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight. |
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The Terminator films ignore the expanded universe materials, including novels, the Future War toyline, the TV series, the ride, and the origin story introduced in a crossover. | |
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The Rise of Skywalker ignores Poe having encountered jumptroopers earlier in Star Wars: Poe Dameron and Luke's X-Wing being non-operational in The Last Jedi Visual Dictionary. The reveal that Snoke is an artificial "strandcast" created on Exegol during the time of the Empire ignores the novelization of The Force Awakens claiming that Snoke witnessed the rise and fall of the Empire. | |
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Star Trek Online is set in a version of Star Trek's 25th century extrapolated from canon as it stood after the release of Star Trek (2009) (plus some material incorporated from the Star Trek Novelverse). Since its 2010 release, several new Trek TV series have been made, and while Cryptic Studios does its best to incorporate them into game-canon, Star Trek: Picard's story is mostly ignored because its 2397 date directly conflicts with prior game-canon on multiple levels starting with the 2387 supernova: the game went with Star Trek Countdown's explanation that the star was a distant one called Hobus, whereas Picard states it was the Romulan sun itself that blew. Cryptic has declared the game an Alternate Continuity to Picard. | |
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In the DEATH BATTLE! episode "Zuko VS Shoto Todoroki", Boomstick is grossed out as he describes the Arranged Marriage between Endeavor and Rei, claiming that Endeavor "popped out kids until he got the right Quirk combo", which implies that Shoto is a Child by Rape. Chapters released after this episode reveal that at first, Endeavor and Rei truly loved each other, and the relationship only turned abusive after Shoto's birth, disproving the theory that Endeavor raped his wife. | |
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Girls und Panzer has the Ribbon Warrior manga spinoff which began prior to the release of Der Film and Das Finale. As a result, the manga has several divergence with the main storyline, especially in regards to how BC Freedom High School was handled. | |
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Dumb and Dumber To ignores plot details from the prequel, When Harry Met Lloyd, and the animated series where Harry and Lloyd go on further adventures with the Mutt Cuts Shaggin' Wagon and their pet beaver Kitty. | |
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Speaking of Broly, while his three movies could comfortably fit into the original story even today, in 2018 Dragon Ball Super: Broly would come out that completely reinvents his characterization and his first meeting with Goku and Vegeta, which now takes place much later as an unambiguously canonical story. | |
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Alien: Covenant puts the final nail in the coffin of the Alien vs. Predator films by revealing the xenomorph, as we know it, didn't exist until the events of Alien: Covenant, as they were created by David mucking about with Engineer biotech. | |
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Injustice: Gods Among Us had a prequel comic book series written by Tom Taylor showing us in detail how this game's version of the DC Universe ended like it is and revealing the fate of characters not addressed in the game. However, the sequel Injustice 2 ignores and/or changes various details from the comic very blatantly (such as the reason of Robin/Damian Wayne's defection to Superman's side, the fate of the Teen Titans (who were alive but imprisoned in the comic but are stated to be dead in the game), and the characterization of some characters such as Poison Ivy (who had a soft spot for Harley in the comic but attempts to coldly kill her in the game's story mode) among many other details). | |
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A great example is the first piece of EU/Legends fiction, the novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye, which was published between A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. It was intended as a possible TV Movie canonical sequel by Lucas in the event that A New Hope didn't pan out. Amongst other things, Luke and Leia are implied to have a budding romantic/sexual relationship, and Luke is portrayed as a Lovable Rogue with a knack for lying. | |
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Any portrayal of the Space Jockeys (now known as Engineers) in the Alien, Predator, or Alien vs. Predator expanded universe prior to the release of Prometheus is guaranteed to fall under this trope, such as the Xenomorph-Space Jockey hybrid in the comic Aliens: Apocalypse and in the game Aliens: Infestation. | |
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Various videogames based on Shrek in earlier years filled up their rosters by introducing fairy tale characters that weren't in the movies. Some of them were then introduced in later movies, with completely different designs and characterizations. One example is Humpty Dumpty, who appeared in Shrek SuperSlam and Shrek Smash N'Crash Racing with drastically different designs between them and made his first canon appearance only later on in Puss in Boots (2011). | |
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My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (IDW): Effort was made to keep the comic stories and events in line with the canon of the animated series — according to the comic artist Andy Price, the "comics are canonical until [the] show contradicts [them]" according to Hasbro — and most that fans would point out were just minor details that could be glossed over. However, the show contradicting the comics is something that has happened fairly often, overriding both stories as a whole and important details of other ones. My Little Pony: FIENDship Is Magic: The Dazzlings issue covers their backstory and how they came into the human world to be the villains of Rainbow Rocks. However, in the seventh season, a different and incompatible account of how this happened is shown and scrubs away the comic's canon. "Reflections": The story's setup involves Celestia and Starswirl having adventured to parallel realities in the wake of Nightmare Moon's banishment by using the magical mirrors Starswirl had created, until Celestia fell in love with an alternate version of Sombra and Starswirl closed off the mirrors to prevent excessive cross-universe entanglements. The Season 7 finale, "Shadow Play", however establishes that Starswirl had vanished when Luna and Celestia were still children and before they became the rulers of Equestria, requiring him to have been long gone when Luna became Nightmare Moon and making it impossible for him to have played the central part he did in the comic's backstory. "Siege of the Crystal Empire" has the return of King Sombra, who was supposedly killed off at the start of season three. The writers of the comic assumed the TV writers were done with him, and so brought him back with both a backstory in the aforementioned "Fiendship is Magic" mini-series as well as resurrecting him for the arc. Fast forward a few years to the show's final season and Sombra is revived at the start of the season and acts as the villain for the first two episodes, completely ignoring the comic's story. |
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Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack! and Godzilla: Final Wars reference Godzilla (1998), ignoring Godzilla: The Series where Zilla returns as a cyborg and the Godzilla hatchling grows up to fight additional monsters. | |
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My Little Pony: FIENDship Is Magic: The Dazzlings issue covers their backstory and how they came into the human world to be the villains of Rainbow Rocks. However, in the seventh season, a different and incompatible account of how this happened is shown and scrubs away the comic's canon. | |
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Spider-Man: The New Animated Series, which was an animated follow-up to the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man film, depicts Dr. Curt Connors becoming The Lizard, and then seemingly falling to his death. These are never brought up in Spider-Man 2 or Spider-Man 3, which came out after the series finished its run and feature Dr. Connors alive and well. | |
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Given that Incredibles 2 leads off with fighting and defeating the Underminer and then goes into Helen becoming family breadwinner and Bob adapting to being a House Husband, the film ignores the comic adaptation and the Rise of the Underminer game in favor of only needing the audience to be familiar with the previous film (and, optionally, its spin-off, Jack-Jack Attack). | |
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Star Wars: The Clone Wars had a curious example of this with the Mandalorians. George Lucas's original plan had been to depict them as a planet of pacifists, which would have wiped out pretty much all the existing EU lore about them. Dave Filoni instead persuaded Lucas to synthesize the existing lore with his current vision, resulting in a canonical depiction fundamentally rooted in Star Wars Legends, with the pacifist "New Mandalorians" represented by Duchess Satine Kryze being merely one faction among many. Though it did mean the then-current Republic Commando Series, one of the sources Lucas and Filoni drew on, ironically had to be cancelled because its storyline no longer fit canon. | |
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Iron Man: Armored Adventures had one singular promotional comic with two stories. One featured Iron Man battling the Living Laser, which didn't get contradicted. The other, featuring S.H.I.E.L.D. agent versions of Hawkeye and Black Widow, did get contradicted by the show, which introduced them as criminals (at first). Interestingly, the Black Widow in the comic is blonde, so you could argue that it's supposed to be Yelena Belova as opposed to Natasha Romanova, but Hawkeye is explicitly identified as Clint Barton in the comic. | |
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When The X-Files returned to television in 2016 with a six-episode miniseries event, it ignored The X-Files Season 10 comic book series by IDW Publishing that was billed as the continuation of the series. | |
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The Lion King: Six New Adventures was a series of licensed book sequels based off of The Lion King. They starred Simba's son Kopa and gave info on things like Simba's grandparents and Scar's youth. Come the direct-to-video sequel The Lion King II: Simba's Pride and Kopa has been replaced with a daughter named Kiara. The series The Lion Guard also features a different backstory for Scar (and, though it acknowledges that he had a different name once, it doesn't outright call him "Taka"), though whether the cartoon is canonical to the films or is in an Alternate Continuity is up for grabs. | |
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The final release of Baldur's Gate III more than twenty years later pretty much directly discards some of the most contentious discontinuities with the novels, namely the characterization of Jaheira and Minsc, and thus indirectly rejects anything else from those books. It is also a long awaited return of the franchise that was much publicized and for which the IP owners invested a lot, a sign that videogames are now considered an important part of the lore, reinforcing the status of the original games as canon sources. | |
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The X-Men Film Series ignores plots introduced in the tie-in comics and video games, this caused problems since many of them tried to fix plot holes introduced in the film series, which is loaded with them, but removing these spin-offs from continuity meant those plot holes were opened again. | |
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Mortal Kombat X and its sequel Mortal Kombat 11 ignores the tie-in comic book series' events and characterization of the characters. | |
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The Mortal Kombat comics by Malibu depicts Noob Saibot as a separate entity from the original Sub-Zero, who unlike the games, survives the first tournament and doesn't die until the second one. The true identity of Noob Saibot as the original Sub-Zero was not established in the games themselves until Mortal Kombat: Deception. Furthermore, the live-action TV series Mortal Kombat: Conquest took it even further by having Noob Saibot as an Outworld warrior who co-existed alongside Sub-Zero's ancestor during the Great Kung Lao's lifetime, which would make him over hundreds of years old during the present time of the games. | |
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The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones was launched immediately following the success of Raiders of the Lost Ark. While most of the stories are standard Indy fare, the writers made the understandable assumption that Marion would be a recurring character and she features prominently in much of the run, taking a job with Marcus as head of PR for the museum and often accompanying Indy on his adventures. This it makes it almost impossible to reconcile the series with later movie continuity. | |
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Haruhi Suzumiya: Emiri Kimidori's Image Song, which was released after the first season of the anime aired but before the tenth volume of the original light novel series, paints her as someone who wants to connect with humans and make friends but can't due to being a humanoid interface. However, the tenth volume reveals that she's actually largely indifferent to humanity and refuses to do anything that isn't ordered by the Entity, not even when her fellow interface Yuki's personal safety is at risk. | |
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The first three movies of Resident Evil Film Series had novelizations which were written by Keith R. DeCandido and got subsequently ignored with the release of Afterlife, Retribution and especially The Final Chapter, the latter of which reveals that Umbrella deliberately caused the Zombie Apocalypse whereas in the prior novelizations it was established as a freak lab accident that went out of Umbrella's control. | |
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Zatch Bell! licensed games like Konjiki no Gash Bell!! Makai no Bookmark always portrayed Zeno as being able to cast the Baou Zakeruga spell or some variant of it just like his brother Zatch can. Zeon only becomes prominent very late in the series, where it is revealed that his beef with Zatch is precisely because the younger twin was the one entrusted with this single-user ability despite Zeno being the Child Soldier undergoing a Training from Hell under the King's orders. | |
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King Kai's exposition also explained that the Saiyans were cavemen who settled on planet Plant and renamed it after their king Vegeta, with Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans and Dragon Ball GT elaborating that they slaughtered the native Tsufuru/Tuffle people and seized their technology in the process. This would later be overwritten by Dragon Ball Super, establishing that the Saiyans were always on their homeworld (originally named Sadala) with no Tsufruians, and remained somewhat primitive. The Broly movie also suggests that King Cold took them into his service three generations before Frieza destroyed the planet, rather than Frieza himself doing this just one generation earlier. | |
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After the new Frieza destruction backstory was revealed, Toei made a TV special depicting the last stand of Goku's father Bardock as he realizes Frieza will destroy it, which Toriyama liked enough to give Bardock a cameo in the manga when Goku finally met Frieza. This would be contradicted by Dragon Ball Minus chapter in Jaco the Galactic Patrolman, with Toriyama giving these events a different take where Goku is sent away deliberately and Bardock is a softer character. This would be solidified in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, which incorporates Minus as part of the opening backstory scene. | |
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Gundam: Yoshiyuki Tomino wrote a novel called Gaia Gear, which operates on the assumption that nothing of relevance happened for nearly 200 years following the events of Char's Counterattack. Needless to say, several sequels like Gundam F91 and V Gundam were produced (some of them with Tomino's involvement) which contradict this, and while Gaia Gear hasn't officially stricken from canonicity there's no way it can fit into the timeline anymore. The gap between Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack and Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn was originally filled in by an interquel duology consisting of the manga titles Across the Sky and Last Sun. Their primary connection to the main animated series is the presence of the RX-0 Unicorn Gundam 03 Phenex, the third Unicorn unit that was lost after its NT-D system went haywire and caused the suit to run off to unknown regions. However, Mobile Suit Gundam Narrative, released after the two manga series, contradict their events in the way the Phenex is characterized; while Last Sun portrays it as a bloodthirsty monster, Narrative (itself an adaptation of the final chapter in Unicorn that the original anime did not cover) reveals it contains the uploaded consciousness of Newtype Rita Bernal, who is a Nice Girl that would never willingly attempt to hurt or kill another human. |
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Disney's Stitch: Experiment 626 was a prequel game released just two days before the original Lilo & Stitch film was released, showing the lives of Dr. Jumba Jookiba and Experiment 626 (Stitch) before their arrest, with 626 collecting DNA for Jumba to use for making more genetic experiments. However, Lilo & Stitch 2: Stitch Has a Glitch had a flashback scene that retconned the game out of the canon, establishing that Jumba and 626 were arrested just shortly after the latter's creation. | |
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007 Legends, which is a tie-in to Skyfall, features a level loosely based on the film On Her Majesty's Secret Service, where Daniel Craig's incarnation of James Bond meets and confronts Ernst Stavro Blofeld. This is contradicted by Spectre, which has Craig's Bond meet Blofeld for the first time. | |
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One Piece: The anime adaptation uses a lot of Filler and extends scenes in order to pad out the runtime in order to prevent it from overtaking the manga. However, some of these filler scenes and extra-canonical story arcs contradict later plot revelations. The Warship Island story arc, the first filler arc in the anime, the Straw Hats encounter a species of dragon, but this contradicts the Thriller Bark Arc where Zoro expressly says he doesn't believe in dragons, and the Punk Hazard Arc, where the Straw Hats canonically encounter dragons (artificially created by genetic engineering) and exclaim with shock that they can't believe dragons are real. The anime-only G8 arc introduced the Vice Admiral Jonathan, who is one of the most laid-back and reasonable Marine officers seen so far, even offering unconditional clemency to all the Straw Hat members without a bounty (at the time), something no other Marine has ever offered any pirate. It's mentioned Jonathan is the protégé of Admiral Akainu. This was when only the names of the Admirals had been revealed, so it clashes heavily with how Akainu is actually portrayed, an incredibly vicious General Ripper introduced killing a thousand innocent people on the off-chance one criminal might have been among them, killed Marines for not continuing to kill pirates in the midst of battle, and once got into a death match with a fellow Admiral who disagreed with his brand of "Justice". The idea of someone like Jonathan being his protégé is almost unthinkable. A filler episode of the Davy Fight Back Arc had Chopper use two Rumble Balls within a short period of each other. This contradicts a later reveal in the Enies Lobby Arc where it's shown that consuming more than one Rumble Ball within six hours of the first causes Chopper to lose control of his transformations, a consequence not shown in this earlier filler episode. The 4Kids dub excised the Laboon Arc, editing the footage to make the whale into a giant iceberg that Luffy casually blasts out of the way with one of the Going Merry's cannons. The reason for this modification isn't clear, but had the dub continued into the Thriller Bark Arc, it would've caused a very significant plot hole, as they meet a man who has a very plot-significant bond with that whale. The anime added an additional scene to Hody Jone's backstory in the Fishman Island arc, showing human slave traders kidnapping one of his friends and beating him and the rest up for trying to stop them. This directly contradicts a major twist later in the story arc, where it's revealed that humans never did anything to Hody, his hatred of them is completely secondhand, due to the bad environment of the district in which he had grown up. |
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Ghostbusters: Ghostbusters: Afterlife ignores the animated series as well as video game continuations of the films, as paranormal activity hasn't been reported in thirty years. | |
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Castlevania: Circle of the Moon began development as a standalone Gaiden Game separate from the series's main timeline, but as its storyline was not explicitly contradicted by the main series, it wasn't impossible for its events to have taken place after all... that is until Order of Ecclesia was released, its events occurring within a similar time period as Circle of the Moon and thus making it extremely difficult for the two to occur in the same continuity. | |
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X-Men: The Animated Series: Bishop, like his comic book counterpart, was introduced as a time traveler seeking to root out a traitor among the X-Men who would destroy the team from within and lead to his Bad Future where mutants are persecuted, and all signs pointed to Gambit. The "traitor" turned out to be Mystique disguised as Gambit. She was defeated and life returned to what passes as normal for the X-Men. But in the comics, the storyline lingered for quite some time and the traitor was revealed to be none other than Professor Xavier himself as his Superpowered Evil Side Onslaught. | |
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Pirates of the Caribbean: According to prequel books, Jack Sparrow used to work for the East India Trading Company and was made captain of the Wicked Wench, until he refused to transport slaves, resulting in Cutler Beckett branding him a pirate and sinking his ship (which would later become the Black Pearl thanks to Jack's deal with Davy Jones). The movie Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales however shows Jack becoming a pirate captain after inheriting both his magic compass and the Wicked Wench during a fierce battle against the pirate hunter Armando Salazar, and cementing his position as captain by defeating Salazar. | |
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Men in Black II ignores the animated series where Agent J and Agent K continue to have adventures, and follows the ending of the first movie instead. | |
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The Jurassic Park films have ignored the video games and comics, despite being promoted as official continuations of the story. Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom at least reuses the name of the Isla Nublar volcano from Jurassic Park: The Game (Mount Sibo), but everything else is dubiously canon at best due to being made before the Jurassic World reboot trilogy. | |
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The gap between Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack and Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn was originally filled in by an interquel duology consisting of the manga titles Across the Sky and Last Sun. Their primary connection to the main animated series is the presence of the RX-0 Unicorn Gundam 03 Phenex, the third Unicorn unit that was lost after its NT-D system went haywire and caused the suit to run off to unknown regions. However, Mobile Suit Gundam Narrative, released after the two manga series, contradict their events in the way the Phenex is characterized; while Last Sun portrays it as a bloodthirsty monster, Narrative (itself an adaptation of the final chapter in Unicorn that the original anime did not cover) reveals it contains the uploaded consciousness of Newtype Rita Bernal, who is a Nice Girl that would never willingly attempt to hurt or kill another human. | |
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TRON: Legacy ignores TRON 2.0 and the tie-in comics. | |
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Adventure Time: Marceline and the Scream Queens introduces Canon Foreigner Keila, who is a vampire like Marceline. Later down the line, Adventure Time's "Stakes" arc would establish Marceline as the last and only vampire in Ooo. | |
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The Han Solo Trilogy: Like much of the Star Wars expanded universe, the 2010s movies ultimately knocked this series out of canon: the end of Bria's arc in Rebel Dawn was superseded by Rogue One before the entire series was rendered non-canonical by the release of Solo. Even before that, at one point, narrative text identifies Boba Fett as having been born Jaster Mereel (as had been established in Tales of the Bounty Hunters and generally accepted as his background at the time). The trilogy was published just a few years prior to Attack of the Clones establishing Boba as a clone of Jango Fett, with later material such as Star Wars: Bounty Hunter establishing Jaster as Jango's mentor. Boba then used his name as an alias. | |
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The Infinite Loops has a handy explanation for this: expansions and variant loops. See, the unknown disaster that caused the loops forced most of the multiverse to re-start from backups — i.e. their media in our world. Because of this, anything that isn't explicitly stated in canonicity varies from loop to loop (i.e. the Walled Kingdom shifted locations frequently because the canonical world map of Attack on Titan was only revealed later and is a spoiler to boot, and Gilda's backstory was usually something very different from Griffonstone). Loops sometimes get 'expansions' (i.e. continuations of the media) that can stabilize more of the loop — which, out of universe, is the writers taking new canonicity into account. It's usually fairly well-worked in, with stories of loopers coping with baseline deaths and the loss of what they considered their childhoods. | |
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The Young Adult Buffy the Vampire Slayer book Halloween Rain, the third Buffyverse book ever written, has Buffy fighting for her life during All Hallows Eve, when the forces of evil are at their strongest. Days before its release, the show had its own Halloween episode — which established that not only is there nothing particularly supernatural about Halloween, but most demons actually take the night off, making it the most normal night in Sunnydale. | |
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In the Ultima series, the latest game tends to reflect the status quo, becoming more noticeable in Ultima VIII and Ultima IX, where the character customization options are no longer available and it turns out the protagonist has always been a blonde haired human male, ever since the days of Sosaria according to Ultima Online. | |
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Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends, the sequels to Halloween (2018), directly contradict the novelizations of 2018 and Kills. The most glaring example is the novelization of 2018 mentioning Myers house being demolished and replaced with an orchard, yet come Kills, and the house is revealed to be intact, inhabited and becomes the place where the third act sets off. | |
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The Journal of the Two Sisters is a companion book for My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic written by one of the show's writers. The canonicity of the book has been pulled into question due to inconsistencies with later episodes of the show. For example, the book states that other alicorns existed in the past and it's heavily implied Celestia and Luna were born alicorn. Season 6's "The Crystaling" implies that Flurry Heart is the first alicorn ever born in Equestria. The book's writer - who doesn't work on the show anymore - tries to handwave this as the sisters being born before Equestria. The episode "Shadow Play" also strongly counters the book by depicting the Tree of Harmony as younger than the book does. | |
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Baldur's Gate did this to the very infamous novel that was licensed at the same time and released one year... after. The thing is that the novel only shared a few starting and final details, because it was based on a very early script without much developed yet, and completely invented the rest. Therefore, the game managed to discontinue whatever was written even before the novel was published. Anyway the results of the latter left much to desire and are despised by fans even today. The problem is, since videogames are a minor media in the Forgotten Realms lore while books are major sources, technically it would be the novel that supersedes the game... but then comes Baldur's Gate II that totally ignores whatever was plotted in there. Then the same writer releases a novel for it, ignoring again what the game developers did. Thankfully, the fans so reviled and despised those books that years later other official Forgotten Realms material such as Legends of Baldur's Gate have quietly discarded the novel's narrative and characters in favor of ones closer to their game incarnations, though the name of the novel protagonist (Abdel Adrian) is still considered canon according to Murder in Baldur's Gate and comments from Forgotten Realms creator Ed Greenwood (it is supposed, although never confirmed, that this name has always been an unofficial internal name at Bioware since the days of the early drafts, and the novel only recycled it). The final release of Baldur's Gate III more than twenty years later pretty much directly discards some of the most contentious discontinuities with the novels, namely the characterization of Jaheira and Minsc, and thus indirectly rejects anything else from those books. It is also a long awaited return of the franchise that was much publicized and for which the IP owners invested a lot, a sign that videogames are now considered an important part of the lore, reinforcing the status of the original games as canon sources. In the adventure module Murder in Baldur's Gate for the pen & paper RPG, it is stated that the main character of the two games was attacked by a fellow Bhaalspawn and although the victor of the fight remains unknown, a giant soul-sucking monster eventually emerged from the confrontation, which was slayed by other adventurers, freeing Bhaal's essence and allowing him to return, albeit in a weakened, not fully divine form. This discontinued whatever ending for Throne of Bhaal was chosen, since either the protagonist absorbed the essence and became a full god, or renounced it, becoming a normal mortal without anymore the taint of Bhaal. |
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The Saw franchise received a prequel comic book titled Saw: Rebirth to tie into the release Saw II, which detailed the backstory of John Kramer and was considered canon by the films' writers at the time. Saw IV, which brought a new writing team to the franchise, rendered the comic incompatible with the film canon due to the new writers making a drastically different version of John's backstory as one of the film's main storylines. This new backstory would be further built upon in later films. | |
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The anime adaptation of Saint Seiya introduced several elements that contradicted the Manga. The most noteworthy example would be Hyoga's master. The anime introduced a Canon Foreigner called the Crystal Saint as his master, only for the manga to reveal that it was actually the Gold Saint Aquarius Camus. The Anime tried to patch this over stating the Camus was the master of Crystal Saint, before the Hades ovas ignored the latter entirely. | |
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