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Creator Backlash
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Creators aren't always proud of their work. Sometimes, a more extreme version occurs — a creator ends up despising their past work, whether it's an obscure work that didn't catch on and may not have many redeeming qualities in the first place, or a popular work that is loved by fans, much to the creator's dismay. Fandom is an interesting entity. Nobody can quite tell how people will react to anything, making the creation of a popular work a crapshoot. However, it's assumed that most creators hold an equal or greater amount of affection for their work than their fans. After all, they had to actually make it in the first place. So obviously, anything that's popular must be something the creator likes, right? Not quite. See, the creators are people too, and even if they're the origin of a particular work, that doesn't stop them from holding such a strong negative opinion about it. This is what is referred to as creator backlash. It's the most high profile form of hatedom possible, since it's the very creator(s) of the work denouncing it. As they bring up their feelings of hatred for their work in interviews, public forums, and their other creations, it brings a certain amount of discord into being a fan when the very source has denounced it. It might even trigger feelings of betrayal, or resentment that the author has (apparently) become a holier-than-thou hypocrite. It can take on many forms and for many reasons. Perhaps an obscure work they made before becoming famous left a bad taste in their mouth. In addition, creators may feel their work has been ruined by Executive Meddling. Another reason could be that the creator didn't really intend for it to become so popular, only making it to pay the bills and fund their more serious work (perhaps even getting forced into continuing it). Perhaps people completely miss the point. Perhaps it has them typecast to a sickening level. Perhaps the project that they put a lot of effort in gets pathetic reactions from fans. Perhaps they were going through a rough time while making it. Perhaps they thought it was great at the time but, in hindsight and with a more "mature" perspective, think otherwise. Perhaps it has become their only work that is generally known, casting them as a "One-Hit Wonder" in the eyes of the majority. Maybe they thought they could have done better. Maybe they begin to think The World Is Not Ready. It is quite common for creators who start early to simply grow out of their early work. Added to which is the common artistic trait of always wanting to move on: the criticism is just an expression of boredom; been there, done that. Or perhaps they just really do hate the work they created after all this time; maybe their personality (or the effect the work has on today's society) really has changed that much. The reasons are as myriad as the reasons a fan might choose to like their work in the first place. Not all creator backlash is permanent, though. They can just as easily choose to later embrace their work when they get over whatever was troubling them in the first place. This seems to be quite rare, however. When it does happen, it usually seems to occur after a lengthy period of time has passed between appearing on the show and the present. And, of course, no matter how bad the backlash is, the artists rarely return any of the cash they've made from a work. Compare Old Shame, for when a character in a work of fiction regrets something they did in their past, which may include an in-universe case of Creator Backlash. Compare and contrast Self-Censored Release (where the work in question has questionable history which its creators would like to dispose of) and see also Magnum Opus Dissonance and Disowned Adaptation. Overlaps with Canon Discontinuity if the creator removes a disliked work from the series canon entirely. In the most extreme cases, the creator will attempt to Bury Your Art, in which they hate a work so much that they go the lengths to make sure it isn’t publicly available. Not be confused with Creator Breakdown or Artist Disillusionment, though they can definitely overlap with this. Artist disillusionment is against fans while this is against works. And definitely not to be confused with creators getting their backs lashed. This can sometimes result in creators going uncredited for their part in the work, with some going as far as removing their name from the credits. |
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Information Society's vocalist Kurt Harland says this about the video for "How Long": | |
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In a crossover with this, literature, and animation, Berke does not like A Wish for Wings that Work, an Animated Adaptation of his 1991 Christmas book of the same name (which in turn uses the Opus character from Bloom County and Outland). | |
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Despite his prolific reprinting of past The Far Side strips in books, calendars, etc. there are a rather high number of Far Side comics, mostly from the early years, that Gary Larson doesn't like and are almost never reprinted. The epic every-strip-ever collection released in 2014 remains the only place to see them. | |
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deadEarth is popular on RPGnet for its hilariously So Bad, It's Good "radiation manipulations". Its reputation has prompted its original author make a post, where he reflects on how his 19-year-old self took his first venture into tabletop gaming too seriously where he went afterwards. | |
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In the book Nothing Like a Dame, Audra McDonald is shown to not necessarily be embarrassed by Ragtime (it did win her her third Tony), but that the experience was so emotionally draining she can't even watch other productions of it. | |
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Similar to BrokenTeapot, cartoonist Tom Preston (creator of So... You're a Cartoonist? fame) used to go under the pseudonym "Catty N" and drew a lot of inflation fetish art during his early years. Preston has since distanced himself from the inflation fetishist community and instead sticks to humor comics, even once saying "yes I was once Catty N, lets just forget that ever happened." His past has become a major Never Live It Down among his detractors though, who often reference his Catty N years in art mocking him. Even some artists in the inflation fetishist community have been vocal about their dislike of Preston, saying Preston did not leave the community on good terms and was supposedly a real Jerkass to other fetish artists in his early years. The fact Preston has become infamous for issuing DMCA takedowns of his Catty N art on imageboards and other sites has only contributed to his Hatedom. | |
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Benthelooney disowns every video that he has made during the first season of his Rant series. Before he started using a script, and also disowns a fair amount of his pre-cancellation rants. | |
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Jon Graham, creator of Arby 'n' the Chief, stated on his blog while working on Season 6 that since learning some things in film school, he now looks back on the first 3 seasons of the series with regret due to how unrealistic and overly-silly they are in comparison to his work on the more drama-based series it became towards its end. As a result, he implored fans to simply disregard the events of the earlier season for said reason. This however made the series's abundant plotholes that much more confusing and unexplainable. | |
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Being a product of its times, there are more than a few examples of this stemming from the Old World of Darkness: Later editions of Vampire: The Masquerade did their damnedest to sweep everything from the Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand supplement under the carpet. Werewolf: The Apocalypse: It's probably easier to list the various Tribes who weren't this at some point, to the fans if not the producers, given how much of them tended to rely on ethnic or subculture stereotypes. In fact, more than one fan has suggested that this is precisely why the Spiritual Successor, Werewolf: The Forsaken, cast out all ideas of using ethnicity or subculture (feminists, the homeless, etc) as a basis for werewolf tribal cultures. One of the most infamous would probably be the Fianna, a very stereotypically Celtic werewolf tribe whose history in Ireland had some significant ties to the IRA. Come 9/11, terrorism didn't look so daring and dashing anymore, and the Revised edition of their tribebook severely downplayed the connection between the IRA to the tribe, if not condemning the group outright. Before the Fianna's IRA connections were comparable to 9/11, the Black Furies were amongst the most embarrassing of the Tribes, being essentially a faction based on being Straw Feminists — and huge hypocrites to boot. Their second edition tribal book drastically altered its flavor from its predecessor, although unlike the Fianna there was never any formal authorial apology. World of Darkness: Gypsies was embarrassing for its racist stereotypes and reliance on the whole Magical Romani concept. Later sourcebooks that dealt with the Roma pointed out the book's stereotypes, and explored how actual Roma would likely deal with the supernatural. |
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Jacob Lenard, creator of Mugman, suffered from creative burnout in the series' final years and grew to dislike much of the earlier episodes. Several changes were made in the final episodes, such as the removal of longtime characters Teanna, Johnny and Papa, complete retooling of character designs and character dynamics and a re-make of an earlier episode. Eventually, after growing tired of the aimless direction of the series and fan backlash, brought the series to a close. Mugman would briefly be brought back in "Welcome to Wedgewood" shortly after the original series' cancellation, but that show would also be cancelled just after one episode due to Lenard's dissatisfaction with it. | |
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Jump Start creator Robb Armstrong had Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, provide a positive blurb for his 2016 book Fearless: A Cartoonist's Guide to Life, as he had long considered Adams a friend going back to The '80s. That changed in 2023 after Adams went on a racist rant on his YouTube show that was seen by many as calling for the return of segregation. Upon hearing Adams' comments, Armstrong urged any fans who owned his book to take a black marker and use it to cross out Adams' blurb, declaring that That Man Is Dead when asked to describe his former friend. | |
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Not the straightest example, but Brian Kendall has apparently a love/hate relationship with that one flash movie he made, The Demented Cartoon Movie. Much of the "hate" part comes from the amount of effort he thought he could put more into this movie. | |
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Dilbert: Scott Adams released a series of Dilbert strips that are really contrived to give Dogbert an arch-nemesis named Bingo the Cow Herding Dog in order to give Hollywood some material to work with. It would have turned the strip into something only other cartoonists like. This was during the strip's early years that focus more on Dilbert's antics at home than at work. You can read them here. In a twentieth anniversary collection, Adams included some comics he wrote for Dilbert as practice before trying to find a syndicate. Before listing the examples, Adams wrote "At the time, I thought puns were the highest form of humor. Forgive me." His seventh anniversary collection ("Seven Years of Highly Defective People") includes a meandering Sunday strip captioned with the annotation "I hate this comic. I was tired." |
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Cracked.com has Inventors Who Can't Stand Their Own Creations. | |
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Calvin and Hobbes: One of the primary reasons Bill Watterson decided to stop drawing the strip in 1995 was pressure from Universal Press Syndicate to commercialize his work, with Watterson noting that if Universal wanted to, they could have licensed his characters without his permission or continue drawing the strip with a new artist, so he decided to discontinue it because he had achieved all he could in the comic strip business. Nevertheless, in spite of his efforts, numerous unauthorized products have made their way into the market, with window decals depicting Calvin praying before a cross, and taking a whizz on various automobiles' and sports teams' logos. Within the strip itself, Watterson came to dislike the title arc of Weirdos From Another Planet!. He considered the Martian backgrounds too cartoony and the Green Aesop too Anvilicious. He also disliked the strip where Calvin pretended to be a god that smote his creations, since the restrictive Sunday format ruined what he planned. He even had mixed feelings about being able to design his own Sunday layouts when he realized how hard it was to come up with ideas and layouts that were easy to follow, and how the new Sunday strips took two or three times as long to draw as the old ones. Watterson claims he regrets introducing Calvin's Uncle Max. His reasons are that Max didn't have much of an identity, he didn't bring out anything new in Calvin, and the awkwardness of Max not being able to address Calvin's parents by their first names (which Watterson, as a matter of principle, didn't want them to have). |
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Alvin-Earthworm, creator of Super Mario Bros. Z, has been incredibly annoyed by fans constantly asking him to work on new episodes, to the point where he has completely stopped working on the series. He claims that it's not forever. He wasn't lying. He's started making him again and most of his fans are listening, seeing as it seemed like they made him quit the Internet. He still updates his DeviantArt account, although you may wish to be cautious before observing it. The comments sections still partially consist of SMBZ fans asking for more. He created a second account as well. His first post stated that so much as mentioning SMBZ on that account is a blockable offense. | |
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Before Garfield, Jim Davis did a short-lived comic called Gnorm Gnat. Davis thought it was funny. Not a lot of other people did. After one editor told Davis that "no one can relate to bugs", he gave up. The only times Davis brings the comic up now is when he's mocking it as "one of his biggest mistakes". This was lampshaded in one of the Garfield book collections. A gag comic at the end of one book was titled "Top 10 Comic Strips Jim Davis tried before Garfield" where Number 2 on the list was... Gnorm Gnat. The number one comic strip "tried" was Garfield being a living toaster. | |
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Sesame Street: Longtime writer and puppeteer Joey Mazzarino (most famous for performing Murray Monster) left the show after its 46th season, unsatisfied with the changes that the show was going through. While neither Jim Henson nor Frank Oz dislike Sesame Street (both devoted at least a few weeks a year, Jim until he died and Frank until the late 1990s, to shooting new material with their respective characters), Henson disliked how it typecast him as a children's performer, even telling creator Joan Ganz Cooney over the phone that "[she] ruined [his] life." Similarly, Oz was very hesitant to discuss it or his Muppet projects until recently, as he was worried that it would overshadow the work he has done as a director. |
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A lot of the creative teams behind the various entries of the Transformers Aligned Universe didn't want their work in the Aligned continuity in the first place, which goes to explain a lot of the creative license and various continuity issues between each entry. By the time Prime ended, the Binder of Revelation, the Universe Bible, had ended up completely ignored (and even before then, the IDW comics had already established too many character backstories for it to have been feasible to use anyway). | |
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Exalted The much-reviled Scroll of the Monk, for writer Dean Shomshak. The first thing he did upon becoming an Ink Monkey was apologize for writing it. A number of the current writers, like Holden Shearer and John Mørke, have stated that in hindsight, they really wish they hadn't done about half the things that went into late second edition, because they feel the focus on high-Essence play and the spectacular and cosmic stuff papered over the pulp fantasy the game was actually supposed to be about. |
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Journey was highly dissatisfied with their music video for "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)", to the point that they refused to do any videos for their next album, Raised On Radio. | |
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Dom Fera, of The Lazer Collection fame. The series often completely overshadows the rest of his work. He expressed this sentiment in Lazer Collection 4. That said, he doesn't hate the Lazer Collection, he just thought it was ridiculous that people expected him to put out 4 so soon after 3. | |
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Gary Gygax said that he regretted a number of rules that he felt pressured to put in various versions of Dungeons & Dragons, singling out psionics, the monk class and weapon speeds and effects versus armor as egregious examples. | |
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Derrick Dishaw, author of Empire of Satanis denounced the game on his blog in 2018, calling it "an amateurish mess of cliches and something even worse- running in the opposite direction of cliche- only to hit a brick wall at top speed." | |
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Later editions of Vampire: The Masquerade did their damnedest to sweep everything from the Dirty Secrets of the Black Hand supplement under the carpet. | |
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Dogs in the Vineyard forms a fascinating example, in that it was well received by critics on launch and retains a generally positive reputation as a thoughtful examination of religion in RPG form with interesting mechanics. Its author, Vincent K. Baker, now seems to despise it and wants to let it die, as he feels it doesn't clearly condemn the religious targets he was aiming at. | |
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As reported by the book Brick by Brick, certain unnamed higher-ups at LEGO felt this way about their non-traditional series like BIONICLE, feeling its story-driven nature, ball joint-based building system, and at times overly dark and violent story stood against everything the company represented (some of these were also major concerns regarding their Star Wars sets). Within the BIONICLE franchise itself, writer Greg Farshtey hated Vakama's forced betrayal-arc in the 2005 plot, which was pushed by the team producing that year's Direct to Video movie. Greg allegedly yelled at them, but his arguments were ignored, and he had to somehow fit the arc into his book series. | |
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The biggest example from Fantasy is doubtlessly the Pygmies (the name itself being inherently iffy not helping...), who were a faction starting in second edition. By third edition, their appearance and culture would just seem like shockingly racist caricatures of the people of the African Congo these days and they unsurprisingly ended up entirely unmentioned within the game's fluff or crunch as the years went on. A Blood Bowl comic mentioned them having a team that was beaten and eaten by the Amazons team who took their spot at the tournament as if to say "No, the Pygmies will never be brought back". The team being eaten in the Gaiden Game is the last mention of them. | |
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Matt Wilson, creator of Bonus Stage, seems to hate his most famous creation, or at least, all of the fans. He had stated after the end of the series that he hardly, if ever, plays video games any more. Also, he is embarassed by the poor animation quality of many of the episodes, and doesn't find a lot of the jokes funny anymore. | |
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He kept a great deal of Bloom County's first two years out of publication for years because he thought the strips were dated, unfunny, poorly drawn, derivative of Doonesbury, or some combination thereof. Finally, in the late 2000s, he began releasing complete anthologies of the strip, complete with running commentary. Even in the commentary, he is highly critical of his own work, saying that he had no idea which direction the strip would take until around 1981, when Opus the penguin became a permanent cast member. | |
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Werewolf: The Apocalypse: It's probably easier to list the various Tribes who weren't this at some point, to the fans if not the producers, given how much of them tended to rely on ethnic or subculture stereotypes. In fact, more than one fan has suggested that this is precisely why the Spiritual Successor, Werewolf: The Forsaken, cast out all ideas of using ethnicity or subculture (feminists, the homeless, etc) as a basis for werewolf tribal cultures. One of the most infamous would probably be the Fianna, a very stereotypically Celtic werewolf tribe whose history in Ireland had some significant ties to the IRA. Come 9/11, terrorism didn't look so daring and dashing anymore, and the Revised edition of their tribebook severely downplayed the connection between the IRA to the tribe, if not condemning the group outright. Before the Fianna's IRA connections were comparable to 9/11, the Black Furies were amongst the most embarrassing of the Tribes, being essentially a faction based on being Straw Feminists — and huge hypocrites to boot. Their second edition tribal book drastically altered its flavor from its predecessor, although unlike the Fianna there was never any formal authorial apology. |
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The Object Lockdown team really hates Drago, especially series creator Wuggolo. They felt that he didn't really fit in the show's cast despite the fact he's a dragon action figure. No wonder they sent him on a Long Bus Trip in "The Cream of the Crop." | |
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Burnie Burns has come to regret rushing season 3 of Red vs. Blue so they'd change to Halo 2 the same day the game came out, specially at how overworked he got. Two of his replacements had moments, with Miles Luna regretting injuring Carolina's leg to sideline her in Season 12, and Joe Nicolosi coming to hate how in Season 15 he made VIC's Heroic Sacrifice a parody of Epsilon's in season 13. | |
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Moderately-popular DeviantArt cartoonist BrokenTeapot initially used to draw comics and characters involving kink-driven material, mostly related to Hypnofetishism as either his own pieces or fan-commissions. Somewhere along the line he has since become ashamed of them in general, criticized the attraction and attention he had gotten from said fetishes, and went on to draw almost predominantly video game-related parody one-page comics. Later, he would begin a Castlevania-inspired spoof called "Nosfera" which become relatively popular. Soon after eventually finishing the ongoing comic, he would go on to write a surprising post about how it "sucked" and stated he would begin doing it over. He's currently in the process of doing just this. | |
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Magic: The Gathering has its share of old shames, specifically: Urza's Saga block, which was massively overpowered and created the most unfun standard environment in history, according to Mark Rosewater the only block where "The entire team got called into the boss's office and got yelled at." To a lesser extent, any other overly format-dominating cards/archetypes. On the other end of the spectrum there are Fallen Empires, The Dark, and especially Homelands, widely considered the weakest sets. The game, at the time, had been having problems with overly powerful cards, and had corrected too far in the opposite direction. Fallen Empires also has the distinction of being overprinted as well, making cards and packs next to worthless. Magic originally was supposed to be played for "ante": Each player, after shuffling but before drawing their hand, took the top card of their deck and set it aside; the winner of the game got both cards. This made the game a target of anti-gambling laws, and Wizards would eventually do away with the ante rule (and ban cards that dealt with ante). Wizards tries very hard to keep that link between its game and gambling under the table (although it could be theorized that the game's strategic elements make it the perfect "gateway game" to poker, as evidenced by David Williams et al.) A number of older cards were very blatantly racist, like Invoke Prejudice, which depicted a knockoff Ku Klux Klan. While updated production standards ensured such cards wouldn't be created in future, they hung around as uncomfortable background facts of the game until 2020, when they were banned from all official tournament play and had their art unpersoned from Gatherer. |
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In-universe in Fly by Night. Joey Storms has so little confidence in his writing ability that his producers banned him from his own shows for distracting the audience with loud yawns and groans of despair. He's also frustrated by the fact that nobody dares criticize his work due to how many successful playwrights are in his family. | |
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Misteroo of Arfenhouse fame had the message "I despise my creations" plastered all over the Disaster Labs website. | |
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A similar thing happened with Pygmalion - higher-ups wanted to change the ending to one in which Eliza and Higgins got married, so it could have a standard happy ending, rather than letting Eliza leave Higgins to marry Freddy. George Bernard Shaw would not be happy about the musical adaptation. | |
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The various rights-holders for the various Rupert Bear media pretend Rupert and the Diamond Leaf never existed due to a certain plot point involving racial stereotypes, as it unfortunately compromises the racial harmony that has always featured in the Rupert stories (even the characters considered Fair for Its Day have aged much better, such as Tiger Lily). This didn't stop The Daily Express from reprinting the story in April 2020, but with the offending plot points excised. | |
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Peanuts: Charles M. Schulz frequently said he was somewhat embarrassed by the first few years of Peanuts. As a result, several hundred strips from the early 1950s were never reprinted in book form during his lifetime, only seeing the light of day via Fantagraphics' Complete Peanuts series. Schulz also hated the title "Peanuts" which the syndicate imposed on him, and to the end of his life never missed an opportunity to call it "the worst title ever thought up for a comic strip." This is why the animated specials and other adaptations released in his lifetime never have "Peanuts" in the title. Schulz grew to dislike the character Pig-Pen over the years, due to his one-joke nature and his difficult character design. What prevented the character from being written out of Peanuts like so many other characters that Schulz had grown bored with was the huge amount of fan-mail that he consistently received for him. It's telling that Pig-Pen's final appearance in the strip shortly before it ended had the usually proud character show embarrassment for his dirty nature. |
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Warhammer: Warhammer 40,000: In the now-defunct official Games Workshop webboard, posting anything about the Squats would typicaly result in the thread being deleted, and the thread-starter banhammered. It's a common joke that there is a special clock in GW's office counting down to a Squats re-release, but anytime someone asks the GW team to bring back Squats, they have to reset the clock. Predictably, a segment of the fanbase has decided that Squats and Zoats were the bestest thing since sliced squig, and mourn their disappearance as further evidence of GW having lost their soul. Games Workshop has tried to covertly resurrect the Squats in the form of the Demiurg, a race of Space Dwarves under the Tau Empire. The Zoats have returned in Warhammer's Storm of Magic supplement, as summonable monster allies. A number of third-party manufacturers have even begun making Warhammer-compatible "Space Dwarfs," such as the Forge Fathers by Mantic Games, and numerous fan-made codexes exist to make Squats compatible with the current version of the game. Games Workshop does not allow third-party figurines and fan-made codexes in official events, however they do allow vintage Squat figurines to be used as long as they are drafted and played under different, "acceptable" army's official rules (typically making Squat units into a reskin for the Imperials). In 2022, what was pitched as an April Fool's joke turned out to be real - the Squats were announced as coming back as a full faction, called the Leagues of Votann. Warhammer: The Firmir, a race of Cyclopean monsters that were essentially entirely excised from the fluff and had their army discontinued. Much of this might have to do with the questionable way they reproduce. Recently they've gotten little minor references in the rulebook, a summoned monster in Storm of Magic and a few Forge World models, but a new book is highly unlikely. Chaos Dwarves also seemed to be going that way, but they recently started get large amounts of reference in the fluff, mostly due to their proximity to the Ogre Kingdoms and their popularity with older players. Every time there's even a hint of something new coming, everyone will declare it's the Chaos Dwarves. The biggest example from Fantasy is doubtlessly the Pygmies (the name itself being inherently iffy not helping...), who were a faction starting in second edition. By third edition, their appearance and culture would just seem like shockingly racist caricatures of the people of the African Congo these days and they unsurprisingly ended up entirely unmentioned within the game's fluff or crunch as the years went on. A Blood Bowl comic mentioned them having a team that was beaten and eaten by the Amazons team who took their spot at the tournament as if to say "No, the Pygmies will never be brought back". The team being eaten in the Gaiden Game is the last mention of them. |
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Warhammer 40,000: In the now-defunct official Games Workshop webboard, posting anything about the Squats would typicaly result in the thread being deleted, and the thread-starter banhammered. It's a common joke that there is a special clock in GW's office counting down to a Squats re-release, but anytime someone asks the GW team to bring back Squats, they have to reset the clock. Predictably, a segment of the fanbase has decided that Squats and Zoats were the bestest thing since sliced squig, and mourn their disappearance as further evidence of GW having lost their soul. Games Workshop has tried to covertly resurrect the Squats in the form of the Demiurg, a race of Space Dwarves under the Tau Empire. The Zoats have returned in Warhammer's Storm of Magic supplement, as summonable monster allies. A number of third-party manufacturers have even begun making Warhammer-compatible "Space Dwarfs," such as the Forge Fathers by Mantic Games, and numerous fan-made codexes exist to make Squats compatible with the current version of the game. Games Workshop does not allow third-party figurines and fan-made codexes in official events, however they do allow vintage Squat figurines to be used as long as they are drafted and played under different, "acceptable" army's official rules (typically making Squat units into a reskin for the Imperials). In 2022, what was pitched as an April Fool's joke turned out to be real - the Squats were announced as coming back as a full faction, called the Leagues of Votann. |
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Warhammer: The Firmir, a race of Cyclopean monsters that were essentially entirely excised from the fluff and had their army discontinued. Much of this might have to do with the questionable way they reproduce. Recently they've gotten little minor references in the rulebook, a summoned monster in Storm of Magic and a few Forge World models, but a new book is highly unlikely. Chaos Dwarves also seemed to be going that way, but they recently started get large amounts of reference in the fluff, mostly due to their proximity to the Ogre Kingdoms and their popularity with older players. Every time there's even a hint of something new coming, everyone will declare it's the Chaos Dwarves. The biggest example from Fantasy is doubtlessly the Pygmies (the name itself being inherently iffy not helping...), who were a faction starting in second edition. By third edition, their appearance and culture would just seem like shockingly racist caricatures of the people of the African Congo these days and they unsurprisingly ended up entirely unmentioned within the game's fluff or crunch as the years went on. A Blood Bowl comic mentioned them having a team that was beaten and eaten by the Amazons team who took their spot at the tournament as if to say "No, the Pygmies will never be brought back". The team being eaten in the Gaiden Game is the last mention of them. |
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Early on, Pearls Before Swine was a webcomic. Most of it was re-drawn/re-written and published to newspapers, but quite a few were also left out. Stephan Pastis republished some of those webcomic strips that were left out in a book, and spent most of the time pointing out how Out of Character everyone was and how bad the art was (even for his minimalist stick-figure style). | |
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A despairing outburst by Richard Wagner from 1878 (while he was working on Parsifal), as recorded by his wife Cosima in her diary: | |
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FreezeFlame22 has gone on to state how much he regrets The Koopa Kids, the first series he ever made when he was very young (13 when it started and 16 by the time it ended). The series ran for three seasons from 2013 to 2016, and while it amassed a decent fanbase, FreezeFlame22 came to dislike his own creation, regarding it is a poorly written embarrassment and regretting many of the decisions he took with it, such as the terrible writing for the characters (especially the Koopa family being portrayed as the good guys even though they all come off as terrible people most of the times), the crude visuals and voice acting, non-sensical lore and plotlines, and comedy that feels forced and unfunny (some of which hasn't aged the best) among other things. Because of this, Freeze decided to cancel the series in 2016, rebooting it a year later as Bowser's Koopalings, a project which he is much more satisfied with. | |
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Just about all the creatives involved in the Masters of the Universe toyline despised the name "Masters of the Universe." They initially wanted a Protagonist Title, but switched to the name "Lords of Power" due to believing they needed to sell the other characters. Then Executive Meddling demanded a switch away from that name, due to believing it sounded "religious." "Masters of the Universe" was a name they came up basically last-minute, and they felt it sounded terrible. | |
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Homestar Runner parodies it with this comment: | |
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In-universe example in a sketch on John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme, which portrays Johann Pachelbel as utterly sick of his Canon in D, and constantly protesting that he has written other works. (This is Rule of Funny; in Real Life, Pachelbel's opinion of the Canon is unknown, and it only achieved its current popularity in The '70s, some 270 years after his death, following a 1968 recording by the Jean-François Paillard Chamber Orchestra.)note The piece was also used a lot as background music in Carl Sagan's pop-astronomy hit Cosmos, which helped it climb out of relative obscurity to become one of the half-dozen or so classical themes that everybody knows how to hum | |
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Adam Ellis drew a comic of himself killing off one of his earlier comics. In said comic, someone told their annoying friend to "let people enjoy things". This was often used about perfectly innocent stuff, like the Star Wars Prequels, but many also used it to promote hate and racism and act hyper-defensive of legitimate or constructive criticism. On his Twitter, Adam has also stated that it was being used by pedophiles. | |
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The Senet cards from Cyberdark Impact set from the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG for having an obscure rule created to accomodate mostly weak cards, namely that cards cannot be moved from the position they were played at on the game mat. Konami later admitted that the mechanic was a disaster because no one cares about card position or moving cards around, especially for convenience with the latter. Card-position-matters mechanics were, however, brought back with a vengeance with the introduction of Link monsters; presumably, Konami figured that making the mechanics much more central would bypass the issue. | |
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Robert Benfer seems to have grown into this as his KlayWorld series drew to a close. While it was clear he enjoyed doing it for a number of years, he eventually changed the name of his YouTube channel and stopped producing these videos completely, despite their popularity. In a video he released explaining that the series was going to end, he sounds exhausted with the Klay World series and mentions that the only reason he kept making them was to fund his other projects. | |
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Minilife TV: An In-Universe example comes from the episode "Br*ck People Say!", where Chris admits the episode isn't very good and that he and Ian are only making it in an attempt to get more views. | |
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Some longtime puppeteers (including some no longer affiliated with the chief group of Muppets, such as Frank Oz) supposedly expressed dissatisfaction during the production of The Muppets (2011), feeling that it was too serious for the Muppets. Rumor has it that former Kermit the Frog performer Steve Whitmire threatened to have his name taken off the film if the original ending (Tex Richman being revealed to be Kermit in disguise the whole time, as a way to bring the crew back together) had been used. | |
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