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There are many who were raised religious, and — even though their life has moved away from adamantly following their religion's doctrine — are still really concerned with their religion and/or cite it often. This comes up very frequently in any Good Girls Avoid Abortion conversation, as when a female character will suddenly be revealed as a "good Catholic" who just can't do it. This also pops up a lot with many comedians, directors, and musicians. Even though they may be lapsed, converted to another religion, or are now atheists, religious imagery and topics often still appear in their works. There are also certain N-Word Privileges: a comedian who tells you they were raised religious is probably going to make a lot of religious jokes or observations about their faith, which might be deemed more offensive if it came from someone else. And if you were trying to be offensive, you'd want to offend something you've known and experienced all the reasons to dislike it the most. For whatever reason — perhaps because Christianity is Catholic — this is particularly common for those who were raised Catholic, and there seems to be no common Protestant equivalent to this trope, even though people paying lip service to their family or culture's religion is as old as religion itself. One possible explanation for this is that Catholicism, much more than Protestantism, is considered by some to be a part of one's ethnic and cultural identity in addition to being a religion, especially for those whose national heritage is tied to the Church (such as people of Irish, Italian, Polish, Hispanic, or Filipino descent); Informed Judaism pretty much works this way, as well. Another possibility is that compared to Protestantism, the Catholic Church places a somewhat stronger emphasis on iconography and ritual; this can then become a rich source of material for former Catholic authors who may no longer remember the subtler doctrinal aspects of Catholicism, or who also may require an easy cue for their non-Catholic audiences to recognize. The third probable answer is the fact that it used to be rather difficult to formally abandon membership in the Catholic Church, and since 2010, it's impossible, which means that the Church still considers practically all lapsed Catholics as members of its flock whether they like it or not. (That baptism leaves quite the indelible mark on the soul...) Yet this trope is by no means unique to Catholicism. There are Eastern Orthodox, Lutheran, LDS, Jehovah's Witness, Jewish, and even Pentecostal and Baptist equivalents of this trope. This is especially common in Russian works, where the Orthodox Church is an institution and has a huge influence on the culture, but is largely seen a means to an end (usually for marriage) and otherwise does not greatly impact individuals' personal lives. In much of Northern Europe, this applies to Finns, Norwegians, Swedes, and Danes who are registered as members of their national Lutheran Churches, even though many rarely attend. The same largely applies to the Englishnote To a degree also to the Welsh, while Scots are a little more religiously diverse, being split between Catholicism and multiple related varieties of Protestantism, who might causally refer to their church as "COE" (the Anglican Church Of England) There are various shadings of this. A "Sunday Catholic" is someone who attends Mass regularly, and may or may not follow Church doctrine closely; a "Christmas and Easter Catholic" is someone who attends Mass only on those holidays (and maybe such events as weddings and funerals), again regardless of how closely they hold to Church doctrine; a "cafeteria Catholic" is a usually derisive term for someone who chooses which of the Church's teachings to follow or ignore; an "ex-Catholic" or "recovering Catholic" has left the Church, may or may not self-identify or have formally converted to another religion, but still has the cultural baggage of having been raised Catholic; a "cultural Catholic" or "non-practicing Catholic" still identifies as Catholic due to family or ethnic heritage but really doesn't adhere to the religion itself; and a "lapsed Catholic" or "fallen-away Catholic" is the Catholic Church's own term for all of the above, except perhaps the "Sunday Catholic" (depending on how much they hew to Church doctrine and how much any differences can be justified as legitimate theological argument—which is, truth be told, rather a lot). Compare and contrast Ambiguously Christian. See also Ambivalent Anglican. These characters (and creators) commonly invoke Love Is Like Religion. |
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Huntress, aka Helena Bertinelli, of the Batman family and Birds of Prey, doesn't bring it up often, but she wears cross jewelry and prays before she fights Lady Shiva, possibly to the death. Her faith has varied in strength over the years, from non-existent (an important plot point in one story) to firm (but never devout). The strength of her faith is used as a symbol of how much hope and optimism she has for the future. In bad times, her faith declines. For example, after causing the death of a mob boss who knew her identity, she throws away her cross. In good times, her faith is stronger. For example, she plans on attending Mass after getting her teaching job and feeling accepted by the Birds of Prey. | |
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This is perhaps the most important theme in Brideshead Revisited; Catholicism has left an indelible mark on the souls of the errant Flytes (Lord Marchmain, Sebastian, and Julia), and all of them are eventually and almost inevitably reconciled with the Church. | |
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Runaways: Nico Minoru has a strange relationship with her Catholicism: she seems to look back on it fondly, but the fact that her parents were trying to raise her to be a good Catholic while being terrible criminals unnerves her. She used to be an altar girl. Her family has been Catholic since at least the 1900's, when her ancestor Witchbreaker hunted "sinners" alongside the Adjudicator and Black Maria. She's functionally non-religious, but turns back to her faith for comfort and security, something she bonds over with Victor. | |
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On House: Chase was raised Catholic, and in the Season 1 episode "Damned If You Do" it is revealed that he attended seminary before becoming a doctor. It's always interesting when the episode has nuns in it or otherwise mentions religion and God. He zigzags from one end of the belief/skepticism spectrum to the other throughout the series. One season 8 episode sees him fall in love with a novice nun patient and try to lure her away from the Church. His efforts actually get a What the Hell, Hero? from House himself. House tries to make things difficult at dinner with Cuddy and her mother by telling her mother he's an Atheist, (because his not being Jewish didn't do it). She's unfazed and tells him that half the Jewish people she knows are Atheists. |
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Played for comedy with Mac in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, who only remembers his Catholic faith when he wants to complain or to criticize other people. In one episode Charlie and Mac are both okay with pre-marital sex and abortion but refuse to use birth control because "we went to Catholic school." | |
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In the Emberverse, Juniper MacKenzie was raised Catholic, and other characters observe that, despite having converted to Wicca, she still seems to be carrying her Catholic Guilt. | |
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Edmund McMillen, the creator of The Binding of Isaac, was raised around Catholics and once compared the faith to Dungeons & Dragons. He cites Catholicism's morbid and violent imagery as influential on Isaac's development. In the game, there are many homages to Catholic teaching, such as the Seven Deadly Sins Isaac must defeat, the Rosary, the Bible, and even the Wafer. | |
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Curb Your Enthusiasm occasionally has Larry, a firmly secular Jew, experience a culture clash with friends and relatives who actually practice. In one episode, he has a conversation with an man who keeps peppering his speech with Yiddish, prompting an annoyed Larry to start responding in gibberish. In another episode, an Orthodox houseguest grills him on where his milchig plates are, to the utter confusion of his Shiksa Goddess wife. | |
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In the Stephanie Plum series, both Stephanie and her sister Valerie mention still having guilt instilled by a Catholic upbringing, even though neither actively practices the faith. | |
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Ultra Fast Pony. In the episode "Faith to Faith": | |
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Jean Floressas des Esseintes from A Rebours is a French aristocrat who moves off to a house in the countryside; he had a Catholic upbringing and was instructed by the Jesuits. At some point, he abandoned the faith and turned to the philosophical ideas of the German pessimist Arthur Schopenhauer. In spite of this, des Esseintes still owns some Latin works by the early Catholic authors, and he could not help but connect Schopenhauer's pessimistic outlook with the resignation from the Imitation of Christ. At the end of the novel, he accepts that he has to go back to Paris (as his doctors told him), and he ultimately resigns himself to God. | |
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These Words Are True and Faithful: Ernie identifies as a Catholic but does not observe that faith or even know anything about it beyond what he half-remembers from CCD. | |
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Four Lions: Omar, the guy who gathers his friends together into a Muslim terrorist cell. He cares very much about his Muslim identity, which is why he's forming the terrorist cell, but in reality he basically lives life like an assimilated British person, treating his wife as an equal and wearing Western clothing. | |
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The A-Team has Templeton Peck, who was raised in Catholic orphanages. Most certainly falls into either the lapsed or recovering groups, as he had no qualms with impersonating a priest if the con asks it of him. | |
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Household Gods: Nicole was raised a Catholic. Though she's lapsed, the contempt Roman pagans have toward Christians even so strikes hard given her background. | |
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This comes up from time to time in Yes, Minister with most of the main characters being culturally Anglican without demonstrating any real interest in religion beyond what is expected for a person in their position. The episode The Bishop's Gambit deals with this quite a bit. As PM Hacker has to appoint a new Bishop and the candidate that the Church of England wants is basically an atheist, despite being a member of the clergy. Sir Humphrey insists that this is fine since most senior clergy are atheists anyway and that the Church is more of a cultural institution than a religious one. |
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Cut and Run's Nick O'Flaherty is Irish Catholic. He makes no mention of going to church and isn't really shown praying, but he's apparently practicing enough to stop dead in the middle of an armed chase scene after running by a church and realizing he might be about to kill people on Easter Sunday. He makes sure to cross himself before his friends pull him back to the chase. | |
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Good Omens parodies this with the Satanic conspiracy working to bring about armageddon. Unlike the sort of self-proclaimed Satanists that you occasionally hear about on the news (described by Crowley as random mortal psychos who give even demons the creeps), rank-and-file members of the Ancient Conspiracy treat the Black Mass the same way that less devout Christians treat church: just a cultural tradition that you participate in once a week and then forget about the rest of the time. Even the nuns running the hospital where The Antichrist is delivered seem Affably Evil—all the better to present themselves as normal nuns to the American diplomat whose baby they plan to swap with the Antichrist (not to mention the local couple whose kid is accidentally replaced with the Antichrist instead). | |
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Brian, Rowan, and the rest of the Fitzpatrick siblings from Rhapsodies. Neither appears to practice, but they still use the Virgin Mary's name in vain and get dragged to confession by their mom. | |
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Game of Thrones: Davos starts out as an atheist, but still instinctively invokes the Seven while seeing something as shocking as Melisandre getting heavily pregnant within days and giving birth to a shadow monster. He later comes to believe in her powers because of this (though he's still no fan of her god). | |
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In Dogma, in the beginning, Bethany doesn't believe in God and works at an abortion clinic, but still goes to Mass every Sunday. | |
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The Wire When union boss Frank Sobotka and Police commissioner Stan Valchek butt heads over whose stained glass window will be added to the new Nave of the church, but it's implied neither man attends mass. Jimmy McNulty also is very ambiguously Catholic whose faith only seems to rear its head when he spurns Bushmills as Protestant whiskey. The drug game of Baltimore also has shades of this in the "Sunday Truce" it respects for the sabbath. Avon and Slim Charles are not churchgoing men either, but both are appalled that Stringer Bell lets two gunmen violate the truce by shooting at Omar and his mother as they attend church. |
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The Looming Tower: O'Neill is a lapsed Catholic but one of his girlfriends is devout and the weight of his sins is very heavy on his shoulders. He cares enough about it that rather than just divorce his wife (which could result in his excommunication), O'Neill pursues an annulment, but it doesn't work. | |
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The John Wick franchise uses lots of Christian imagery and terminology, such as Continental grounds considered consecrated and those who fall foul of the rules declared excommunicado. However, none of the characters express any real belief and discuss the afterlife as something that may or may not exist rather than definite. | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer has Caleb, a serial killer who used to be a priest. He now serves the First Evil as The Dragon but still wears the clothes of a priest because he "can't turn his back on where he comes from." He also condemns secular public schools and says misogynistic things. | |
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Tim Drake and his late father Jack both fall into this category in Angel of the Bat, though Tim eventually finds much of his faith again. Though she wasn't raised with the faith, by the end Cassandra is a deeply spiritual cafeteria Catholic mostly as a result of her pansexuality and the girl she starts dating. Even the author, who calls himself a deeply religious man, is also a big proponent of God Before Dogma. | |
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Jennifer's Body: Needy appears to be nominally Catholic since her mom crosses herself after talking about Jesus' crucifixion; later, she calls on God along with a couple of saints while fighting Jennifer. | |
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Cole St. Clair in Wolves of Mercy Falls Series is heavily implied to be this, without the title "Catholic" ever being used. He is seen holding a rosary, "Fingers grasping the beads as if the gesture was familiar" and later, an interviewer questions his belief in God, quoting Cole's former role as a choir boy. Given that Cole is now a Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll poster child, he is very much the lapsed sort. | |
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In one episode of John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme, Finnemore describes himself as having some version of this, which is precisely why he's more comfortable making jokes about Christianity than Islam: | |
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Raimi from Broken Saints has a lot of snark reserved for supposedly supernatural practices and is far from reverent in his inner monologue, but still has a crucifix on his wall at home and carries some Catholic guilt. | |
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Jack Killian from Midnight Caller is a lifelong Catholic, although he isn't very devout. | |
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On 9-1-1, Eddie, who is notoriously anti-superstition to the point of mocking his colleagues who believe in the supernatural, nonetheless still has his Roman Catholic upbringing so deeply ingrained into him that finding out that his girlfriend Marisol once nearly became a nun results in him wanting to avoid sex with her because "God is watching" and "has eyes on the ground" via Marisol. At one point he even sees her as the Virgin Mary complete with Holy Backlight. | |
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The Dracula Tape, Dracula is revealed to be actually a Traditionalist Catholic as religious artifacts don't have an effect on him, but he admits not being practicing anymore at the time he tells his side of the story. Still, he takes great offense at seeing communion wafers weaponized by Van Helsing and delightfully deconstructs how he got them wrong. | |
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The Goldbergs aren't exactly observant Jews - they have a seriously not-kosher diet involving seafood, pork and dairy sauce, often together - but have bar-mitzvahs, respect festivals like Channukah, and where weddings happen, they are in synagogues or with a Rabbi in attendance, under the canopy. Otherwise, religion doesn't figure. Grandfather Pop-Pops has complained in a restaurant about his family eating traife food, and in public insisted on his right to a kashrut choice. He has also protested about the Goldbergs celebrating Christmas in everything except name. Otherwise he has simply not bothered. | |
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