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Sometimes, we can't just say something is bad. Perhaps we are being nice, or perhaps we are in a situation where negative comments are frowned upon. It could be that we are expected to give a positive response. Or maybe we’re just Trolls or Caustic Critics who feel like being clever with our insults. Break out the faint praise! To damn something with faint praise is to point out that something is mediocre or worse by praising it in ways that make its weaknesses clear. To say that a computer "looks sleek" as the primary point of praise would indicate that it is not that amazing when you actually use it as a computer, for example. To describe a person as punctual when asked about how they perform at work carries the heavy implication that this is their only valuable trait. An alternate version of the trope (frequently used in Caustic Critic reviews) is to condemn something by praising it in comparison to something else that's widely accepted as being not at all good. For example: "This movie has a more coherent plot than Plan 9 from Outer Space." Related to many Insult Tropes; can be the result of a Compliment Backfire. May take the form of an Overly Narrow Superlative or a Trivially Obvious statement. May also, in a funeral setting, result from Never Speak Ill of the Dead if the deceased is not particularly missed. The Four-Point Scale may result in this, as high scores are given to things that are just okay so that fans see a 7 or 8 as a "bad" score. Second Place Is for Losers is also related, as a second place trophy by definition means you didn't do as good as the first place winner. Compare Damned By a Fool's Praise and The One Thing I Don't Hate About You. See also Wants a Prize for Basic Decency, So Okay, It's Average, Not Like Other Girls, and You Are a Credit to Your Race. Contrast with Stealth Insult, which also damns people through "praise" – in that case, though, the praise is illusionary rather than merely weak. Sarcasm Mode is also a sister trope. Those who confuse faint praise with actual praise will claim that It's Not Supposed to Win Oscars. If the "praise" itself is of bad quality rather than damning something of bad quality, then it's Half-Baked Niceness - an overlap can happen if both the praise and the subject it's damning are poor. |
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In Worm, Gregor the Snail has this to say about Cauldron, a group of Well Intentioned Extremists who have explained that they plan to save the world. | |
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In A Little Lily Princess, Miss Minchin, head of the Boarding School Sara attends, is stern and strict at the best of times, and actively cruel to the servants at worst. She treats Sara well at first, but after Sara's father dies deep in debt, she forces Sara to become a servant to repay her debts. Near the end, after Sara finds out that she's once again wealthy, Miss Minchin tries to flipflop back to being "nice" to Sarah, claiming everything she did was for Sara's own good, but Sara isn't fooled for a moment. Despite this, Sara acknowledges that Miss Minchin did provide for her, concluding that "She was not kind, but she was not deliberately vicious, most of the time." | |
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In Trial by Jury the Judge's ex-wife is described by her father as being able to pass for forty-three, in the dusk, with the light behind her. | |
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In their stage performances, veteran Irish folk group The Dubliners would often credit their late member Barney as being "probably the best banjo player in the whole of the Dubliners." | |
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Miracleman: In the final battle, Miraclewoman tries to fight the maddened Kid Miracleman. Miracleman's internal monologue notes that "of the two, she was more graceful and controlled, more skilled and more intelligent in her attack, her moves more subtle and precise. Judging by those terms, I'd say she won." It then becomes very clear that those are the only terms under which it could be said she won that battle, as he casually defeats her in about three panels. | |
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Nova: One issue in Nova (2007) features an inversion of this, where the titular character ends up being praised by faint damnation. When he's hooking up with his old friends from the New Warriors, they gently make fun of the fact that he's grown far beyond them after he Took a Level in Badass in Annihilation, comparing him to being the one guy in the band who actually got famous. Nova attempts to nod off the praise by calling back to an earlier issue when he met the Silver Surfer and basically got his ass kicked... at which they point out that casually having a hostile encounter with the Silver Surfer and living to tell about it is pretty damn indicative of how strong he's become, and joke about it as if he just met a major celebrity. | |
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In one Dumb_RWBY comic (later turned into a RWBY Chibi skit), Weiss is writing to her sister about Ruby. However, because Ruby is, in order, using a chicken on her scythe to play with her Precious Puppy and eating a cookie through her nose, all Weiss can say is that Ruby's "Interesting" and "A person." This would explain Winter's "How appropriately underwhelming" remark when she met Ruby in the series' Volume 3. | |
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In the penultimate episode of DEATH BATTLE! Season 6, Deadpool vs. The Mask Wiz and Boomstick do this on purpose to annoy Deadpool as payback for when he annoyed them in previous episodes, downplaying his strength to that of a normal human (such as his "Feats" of standing up and holding a gun) while Wade tried to point out the more impressive feats of pulling a 6 ton helicopter or kicking foes through concrete walls, he ends up getting mad when they downplayed his speed to a similar degree, pointing out that he was outrunning a plane at the time. | |
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Frequent in Mom Can't Cook!, due to the usual quality of the material under review: Actors are frequently described as "doing the best with what they were given". Although Luke does at one point declare that that's probably the best you could ask for. When noting how Cadet Kelly has a lot of scenes that amount to nothing, we get this gem: Get a Clue was the third film Lindsay Lohan had to make as part of a contract with Disney. Luke imagines that after having seen it, families would have turned to each other and just gone "well, everyone filled their contractual obligation there." They agree that Ready to Run was quite good simply for having a coherent plot with actual acts and good directing. As they note, this is coming right after the complete nonsense that was in Get a Clue the previous week. An example also crops up in one of the movies under review: they note that in Alley Cats Strike, Todd's line that people will see Ken because he's "real and [he's] there" falls under this trope. |
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The box of the film Dragon Kingdom lists a review quote claiming that it has "more dragons than The Hobbit films combined!" Ignoring that the presence of lots of dragons isn't exactly a universal standard of quality, those remotely familiar with The Hobbit will tell you that there's a grand total of one dragon that appears. So basically, the most positive thing they could say about the film is that there are at least two dragons in it. | |
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The Simpsons: "That house is on fire!" "'Motivated seller'!" | |
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The doctor's announcement after Dominic Deegan's physical exams. | |
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In Puffin Forest Ben made a video about 4th Edition D&D, which is generally hated by fans. Ben wanted to make his video more upbeat but the more he wrote the more he remember just how aggravating it was to play. He consciously stops at one point to try and come up with a good thing to say about 4e and can only point to the books having good formatting. | |
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Smogon is fond of this, when dealing with Joke Character Pokemon. Particular examples include noting Telepathy Wobbuffet to be "easily the best death fodder in the tier", the reason to use Castform being that it is "the PU Pokemon with the most diverse colors and coolest STAB move", or Luvdisc with Charm becoming "a very sturdy physical wall able to survive two Caterpie Tackles." | |
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Josie and the Pussycats: In one comic, all the Pussycats can say about a band that wanted to open for them is "Um... they have nice hair." | |
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Apparently the best that whoever designed the DVD case for Beverly Hills Chihuahua could come up with was "The Greatest Chihuahua Movie of All Time." Considering that the only real competition for that title are the sequels, that's not a difficult feat. | |
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Stand Still, Stay Silent: Sigrun, trying to describe Mikkel's accuracy with a gun as nicely as possible, goes for "not too bad for a blind person." | |
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Scott Pilgrim: Knives Chau takes this route when telling the newly formed Shatterband what she thought of their first performance ("You guys have so much potential!"). Young Neil opts for Brutal Honesty instead. Ramona at one point tells Scott that he's the nicest guy she's ever dated.note Every Ex Scott has encountered at this point has tried to kill him, and later we learn that the only ex Ramona had that wasn't evil was also a dick and dumped her. |
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RWBY: While Ruby is grumbling to Yang on their first night at Beacon that "it's weird not knowing anyone here", Yang replies, "How about Jaune? He's...nice!" There is a short but distinct pause as she visibly searches for a positive descriptor she can use with sincerity. The protagonists are talking about a Faunus criminal. Weiss makes disdainful remarks about him, to which Yang replies, "They're not all bad!" When Nora is espousing her team's achievements, she mentions "Glynda barely yells at us any more!" |
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Shrek: Shrek: As Shrek leads Donkey through a swamp, Donkey complains about its miserable state and wonders aloud who would be crazy enough to live there. Shrek replies that this is actually his home. Donkey immediately showers the swamp with (rather weak) compliments. In Shrek 2, Fiona's parents are shocked that she has married an ogre, and she is asked where she lives. |
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In Chaplin, Charlie admits that he's marrying his very young lover because he thinks she's carrying his child. When he insists "she's really not that bad", his friend quips "Spoken like a man madly in love." | |
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In Office Space, Tom has an idea for a fad toy he calls the "Jump to Conclusions Mat." Peter flat out tells him it's a terrible idea. Later on in the film, Tom is showing off a finished prototype of the mat. Peter, trying to be kind, says "It's... exactly as you described." | |
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After spending a lot of time complaining about the story for Metroid: Other M, he praises the gameplay with faint damnation: | |
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In Kill Bill, Bill, when asked for his opinion about the Bride's fiancé (whom he later more honestly describes as a "fucking jerk"), says "I like his hair." | |
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Familiarity with this trope causes confusion in this scene from When Harry Met Sally..., in which Harry tries to set up his friend on a blind date with Sally: | |
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In Bridget Jones's Diary, Jeffrey Archer makes a Celebrity Cameo as himself at a book launch. Bridget, who's giving the introductory speech, spots him in the crowd just after she's described the book her company is publishing as "the greatest book of our time" ... and goes on to tell Archer that "yours aren't bad either". | |
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The Elusive Dr. Bowman of Freefall inverts this. He remarks that the Ecosystems Unlimited chief at his facility is "Dumber than von Neumann," and that he can't think more than five moves ahead in chess. Given that the former was one of the most brilliant men of the twentieth century, and the latter is well beyond most amateur Chess players, most humans would take those as backhanded compliments. Of course, given the doctor is a brilliant Neurologist and AI specialist, it's possible he still means them as insults. | |
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In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin reasons that Santa will deem him nice because he hasn't committed any heinous acts such as murder. | |
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The Dutch Comedy show Koefnoen did a similar sketch where two obnoxious yuppies "translated" every selling point a real estate agent gave them, ("Good access by car and public transport." "Highway through the back yard, foundations ruined by the subway line.") turning into a "The Reason You Suck" Speech. As they walked away satisfied, they decided they were going to buy it anyway. | |
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Rotten Tomatoes' critics' consensus for the film Vampires Suck by the Seltzer and Friedberg duo, who are notorious for making unfunny spoof films, reads: "Witlessly broad and utterly devoid of laughs, Vampires Suck represents a slight step forward for the Friedberg-Seltzer team." (Keep in mind, the film's score is a 4%.) | |
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One particular Garfield strip went thusly: | |
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In The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Doctor Frank-N-Further asks his servants on their opinion of Rocky, his latest creation. While Riff Raff and Magenta offer lavish praise, Columbia enthusiastically says "He's okay!" The doctor doesn't appreciate that. | |
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From Homestuck, regarding Jack Noir Another one from Jane, comparing build grist to the fruit Gushers they look like: |
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The Order of the Stick Soon Kim's final appraisal of Miko's deeds as "You have done... adequately. By destroying my Gate, you have ensured it can no longer be used for evil purposes. You have fulfilled your oath to defend this one gate... technically." As Miko considered her deeds to be the carrying-out of a divine higher destiny to save the world, it's pretty obvious this wasn't what she expected... and as they were the result of paranoid delusions and directly led to the Big Bad escaping, it's similarly obvious that Soon is trying to be as nice as possible about it. When Crystal and Haley first met each other, the nicest things they could say about each other were insincere compliments about the other's boots and haircut, respectively. The two have wanted to kill each other literally from the moment they first met. |
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Dance of the Dead: An accidental version. While they're surrounded by zombies, Gwen finds out Steven had wanted to go to prom that afternoon. Steven says that he chickened out due to believing she would have said no and Gwen replies (with an earnest smile) that if it was a choice between being at prom with him and being chased by zombies, she would have chosen him. Steven takes it in the spirit it was meant rather than how it came out. | |
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This is Spın̈al Tap: One critic praises the band as "very punctual". They're also quite proud of their reputation as "England's loudest band." | |
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In Shiny Days Sekai tries to defend her work ability by saying she didn't break a plate one day recently. She's so bad that when Setsuna takes over for her, she manages to be a far better employee almost instantly despite her poor social skills and initial problems, eventually earning even the praise of difficult customer Manami Katsura. | |
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During spoiler:Gillian Loeb's funeral]] in The Dark Knight, Mayor Garica struggles to find a nice thing to say about him, given he openly admits during his eulogy'' that he got angry calls about the man and his policies,before saying that Loeb was dedicated to the law and didn't munce words. | |
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xkcd inverts this neatly with the UNIX 2038 problem. Online Communities 2 does this with its Alt Text by way of Overly Narrow Superlative. |
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Don't Worry Darling seemed to inspire a huge competition among film critics over who could come up with the most lukewarm endorsement of the film. | |
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The Eternals: The Titan Accord Experiments tried to create a new generation of Eternals, an artificial race normally bound by an Immortal Procreation Clause. The two Eternals born of the experiments were Thanos and his brother Eros, better known as Starfox. Thanos is described in the histories as a "mass-murderer on a universal scale". Starfox, a hero and member of The Avengers, simply as a "moderately successful adventurer". The experiment is deemed a failure. Much, much later, Starfox gets to read the histories and see how dismissively they describe him. | |
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The Transformers: Robots in Disguise: Starscream exploits this a bit, noting that he is "the best leader in the history of Cybertron." In a vacuum, this would be pretty high praise, and seem rather gracious to his reign (which was seriously corrupt, marked by constant disasters and scandals, and ended with him being given a life sentence), but everyone else was a warmonger, an imperialist, a segregationist, or a downright supervillain, so "best" is more like "least awful" — and all he had to do to earn that was to not try and kill everyone at any point. | |
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His Judging By The Cover series discussed this when critiquing the poster for Fantastic Four (2015), along with Polish the Turd. | |
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A prison tattooist in Something*Positive has the slogan "Come see Edna! You won't get hepatitis!" This strip, though Davan probably meant it as a compliment. |
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The Pirates of Penzance: Frederic worries if Ruth is not as beautiful as other women are, and the pirates struggle to say good things about her: The Major-General unknowingly does this to himself in his song. His military knowledge includes impressive things like being able to "tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin" and knowing more about tactics than "a novice in a nunnery". Several of his other boasts are unimpressive if you know what he's talking about — for instance, he knows "the croaking chorus from The Frogs of Aristophanes." The Croaking Chorus in question is just the Greek onomatopoeia for "frog noise." So it's basically "ribbit." |
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An excerpt from Veronica's diary in Heathers: | |
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In Bloom County, at the Premature Eulogy for Steve Dallas, Portnoy pompously begins a speech "about the finer qualities of our good, deceased friend." After two Beat Panels, Opus (who in the previous strip makes a quixotic effort to Never Speak Ill of the Dead) suggests, "He could spit forty feet." Portnoy quickly and loudly wraps the speech up: "For which we loved him like a brother. Good night." | |
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In The Great Ace Attorney, shortly after Ryunosuke and Susato meet Inspector Gregson. Herlock Sholmes' famed rival. | |
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In Cinema Snob Reviews Frozen (a fan comic where The Cinema Snob reviews Frozen), Snob says that Dogs is still a step up from a zombie confederate film (which he considers some of the worst films he ever reviewed). | |
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For the Deal or No Deal adaptation, the "pro" which also shows up in the cons section, is that " There are voice samples from Howie Mandel" | |
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The Punisher MAX: In The Platoon, Cuong is second in command of a frontline military unit, and when asked what his good points are, Colonel Giap merely says that Cuong loyally follows his orders and that Cuong's father is a general. | |
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Rick and Morty (Oni): Morty considers it a win that Rick would rather kill a bunch of robot doppelgangers of him at Rickworld than him specifically. | |
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Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures: In "Appetite for Adventure", Obi-Wan tells poor Dex (who put himself through hell getting Dractuvian Cave Slugs to serve his friend) that the only reason Obi claimed them to be the best thing he ate on Dractu was because the food there is all disgusting. | |
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In General Protection Fault, after Ki recalls how her former fiancé Sam had apologized for trying to rape her, she says, "I'll give him credit for seeming sincere," but mentions that she couldn't forgive him and that she called off the engagement. | |
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Girl Genius: When Martellus usurps the throne of the Storm King from his cousin Tarvek (mostly by killing anyone who tries to take it from him), numerous factions scheme to put Tarvek back in power. Nobody really has any idea what kind of king Tarvek would be or expects anything particularly impressive from him, but everyone agrees he can't possibly be worse than Martellus. | |
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In Tucker & Dale vs. Evil, Tucker's not great at pep-talks. | |
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Ruddigore: Robin is talking to Rose about Richard, beginning by saying he'll "stand up for Dick through thick and thin!" However, every single thing Robin says about Richard, although masquerading as a compliment, is, in fact, nothing of the kind. When Rose asks Robin whether Richard is like most sailors in that he is "worldly", he says, "And what then? Admit that Dick is not a steady character and that when he's excited he uses language that would make your hair curl. Grant that — he does. It's the truth, and I'm not going to deny it. But look at his good qualities. He's as nimble as a pony, and his hornpipe is the talk of the Fleet!" When Rose asks if Richard drinks, Robin says, "Well, suppose he does, and I don't say he don't, for rum's his bane, and ever has been. He does drink — I won't deny it. But what of that? Look at his arms — tattooed to the shoulder!" Finally, when Rose wonders whether Richard would cheat on her while he was away on a sailing voyage, Robin says, "Granted—granted—and I don't say that Dick isn't as bad as any of 'em. You are, you know you are, you dog! a devil of a fellow--a regular out-and-out Lothario! But what then? You can't have everything, and a better hand at turning-in a dead-eye don't walk a deck! And what an accomplishment that is in a family man!" |
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A New Hope: Biggs praises Luke as "one of the best bush pilots on the Outer Rim". While his confusion with the rampant signals in the Falcon when they first encounter the Death Star makes it clear Luke is inexperienced with starfighters and starships more generally, the fact is he's genuinely an Ace Pilot and one of the only survivors of Vader's ambush. To call him a "bush pilot" is either to dramatically underestimate the bush or to really oversell it. Ditto for the Outer Rim. | |
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In the JT Music rap battle between the Heavy and Zarya, Heavy takes a moment to take a jab at his teammate the Scout. | |
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In Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, Wesley Stickler, a college student with a knack for Feigning Intelligence, recalls a professor saying, "At least you have good eyesight, Stickler. I'll give you that," and is dumb enough to think it's genuine praise. | |
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Shrek: As Shrek leads Donkey through a swamp, Donkey complains about its miserable state and wonders aloud who would be crazy enough to live there. Shrek replies that this is actually his home. Donkey immediately showers the swamp with (rather weak) compliments. | |
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In Shrek 2, Fiona's parents are shocked that she has married an ogre, and she is asked where she lives. | |
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"It subverted our expectations" has colloquially become a Stealth Insult online, thanks to the rather contentious The Last Jedi and how it, for better or for worse, went out of its way to drop plot points established in the previous film or have character twists for the sake of twists. Basically if you're thoroughly unimpressed by a twist or the direction a work has taken, well at least it subverted your expectations right? | |
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In The New Champion of Shazam!, Fawcett Community College does this to itself, with a video that starts off by saying that it's the perfect place to complete your education if you don't want to leave Philidelphia, or go to a different school in Philidelphia, and ending by boasting that the college has been nominated for "some awards". | |
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One of Tony's patrons who requested The Cat from Outer Space for Patron Request Month on Escape from Vault Disney! only said in his explanation "It's definitely a movie." | |
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney In the second game, near the end of "Farewell, My Turnabout," the Judge does this to Matt Engarde, when it seems as though the person's guilt can no longer be proven. In the third game, Godot, the primary prosecutorial rival, is a coffee addict who drinks 17 cups per case. However, when he discusses the rather awful restaurant Tres Bien, he has this to say about the expensive coffee. In Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, Wesley Stickler, a college student with a knack for Feigning Intelligence, recalls a professor saying, "At least you have good eyesight, Stickler. I'll give you that," and is dumb enough to think it's genuine praise. In The Great Ace Attorney, shortly after Ryunosuke and Susato meet Inspector Gregson. Herlock Sholmes' famed rival. |
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Keith Moon, The Who's Cloudcuckoolander drummer, once made the bold claim that he was "the best Keith Moon-type drummer in the world." | |
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An old DC Adventures sourcebook featured profiles of various Golden Age characters, with added commentary by supervillain Captain Nazi. Mr. America's profile declares "perhaps his most impressive talent is his unrivaled mastery of the bullwhip," to which Captain Nazi responds by simply repeating the words sarcastically—after all, claiming to be a Badass Normal on the basis of being an Improbable Weapon User in an era where guns and superpowers exist is pretty sad. | |
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Parodied in The Emperor's New Groove, where Kuzco insults a row of girls with offhand remarks, most of which are directly insulting, but to the final one he says, in very sarcastic tones, "Let me guess, you have a great personality?" Even better is the fact that they all look identical. The fact that the other girls have to physically restrain the last one to keep her from attacking Kuzco shows that she's well aware it wasn't a compliment. | |
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When noting how Cadet Kelly has a lot of scenes that amount to nothing, we get this gem: | |
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In The Complete Works of William Shakespeare (abridged), when discussing Shakespeare's Apocrypha (also known as "the lesser plays", and sometimes simply "the bad plays"), the Reduced Shakespeare Company hasten to add that Troilus and Cressida is "hardly crap at all". | |
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The quality of the infamous Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie can be gleaned from the fact that the best review the marketers could find for the back of the DVD case was “Loads of teen appeal!� | |
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In one strip of Foxtrot Paige gives her English essay to Roger for reviewing instead of Andy. Roger proceeds to compliment the penmanship and neat margins of the paper while saying absolutely nothing about the content of the essay itself. Paige doesn't seem to mind, as she proclaims to her offscreen mother that she prefers her dad's critiquing style. | |
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The Wikipedia page for Gotti claims "Gotti was panned by critics, who lamented the writing, aesthetics, and performances, although its use of makeup received some praise." | |
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Legion of Super-Heroes: The Legion normally explain to tryout members why they aren't accepted, such as poor temperament, weak powers, or lack of control. In the case of Arm-Fall-Off Boy, they forgo any criticism and just thank him for being willing to show up. | |
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In Hairspray, Tracy's mother thanks Velma Von Tussle for letting Tracy appear on her TV show (she didn't, actually; the decision had been made without her and she protested vehemently). Velma replies, "Well, Tracy has certainly... redefined our standards." | |
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DC Super Hero Girls: In the graphic novel "Space Out", Green Lantern Jessica Cruz botches her first combat simulation. Coach Wildcat tries to reassure her: "Don't worry about it, kiddo. It wasn't the worst first try I've ever seen." | |
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In one Boy Meets Boy strip: | |
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They agree that Ready to Run was quite good simply for having a coherent plot with actual acts and good directing. As they note, this is coming right after the complete nonsense that was in Get a Clue the previous week. | |
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Disney's Aladdin: An unintentional example of this nearly trips up our hero. A lot of the things Jasmine says about Jafar in the Show Some Leg scene are Trivially Obvious, i.e. he's tall and dark or his beard is twisted. Her tone of voice just makes them sound like compliments since by then, he isn't really paying attention. |
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In Amadeus, this trope practically defines Mozart's relationship with Salieri. In one scene he says to Salieri, "I did some variations on a piece of yours. A funny little tune, but it yielded some good things." In another scene, after Mozart attends a performance of Salieri's music, Mozart compliments him with "I never knew music like that were possible. One hears such sounds and what can one say, but - Salieri!" | |
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Cabin Pressure: Martin responds to Arthur's Christmas gift with "Thank you, Arthur, it's just what I... least expected." Douglas gives Martin a job reference stating that "other than myself, there is no one at MJN whose skills as a pilot I rate higher." They're MJN's only two pilots. Arthur thinks pretty much everyone is, in his words, "brilliant", so when he's asked to describe his father and the best he can come up with is "he's all right", Martin's immediate reaction is "God, he must be awful!" Later in the same episode, Carolyn greets Arthur's father (her ex-husband) with "Hello, Gordon. How necessary to see you." |
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One article on the AV Club noted that the best thing about the Tiger Electronics R-Zone was that it cost thirty dollars. It went on to name it "a better fashion statement than a gaming console"... before noting that the R-Zone looked incredibly stupid to wear, calling out this trope by name. | |
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In Poor Pretty Eddie, Liz's opinion on Eddie's off-key singing is "It's better than lots that I've heard before." | |
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Anastasia: | |
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Homestar Runner: Strong Sad's character bio on an old character page (which can still be found in the museum) goes like this: In the Strong Bad Email "rock opera", an Easter egg shows the "rave reviews" for Strong Bad's rock opera include reviews like "SBEMAIL! is a triumph of some sort!" and "SBEMAIL! is better than a goat!" |
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A review quoted on the back cover of a Lensman novel by E.E. "Doc" Smith reads: "Fine for science fiction addicts." It's like an endorsement for methadone. | |
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Coco: When Héctor and Miguel learn the former is the latter's long-lost great-great-grandfather, Héctor laments that he's a pretty poor excuse for one. When Miguel tries to reassure him that two seconds ago he thought he was related to a murderer and Héctor is a total upgrade by comparison, Héctor is not convinced. | |
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The trailer for Bébé's Kids ends with the line "It's animation..." Gives you an idea of the overall quality if this is the best they can say about it. To be fair it's actually supposed to be "it's animation... with an attitude" but a technical glitch caused it to cut off. This was later fixed, but most (including The Nostalgia Critic who popularized the glitched version) would agree the original glitched trailer was a lot more accurate than the fixed one. | |
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Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation reviews video games, and despite the Accentuate the Negative theme of his reviews, tries to come up with a few compliments. For FIFA 2013, though, he just had this to say: After spending a lot of time complaining about the story for Metroid: Other M, he praises the gameplay with faint damnation: From the same review, on the topic of the box blurb proudly announcing "Features Fully Voiced Movies!": His Judging By The Cover series discussed this when critiquing the poster for Fantastic Four (2015), along with Polish the Turd. One of his categories in "Games of the Year" is "Top 5 Blandest" (reflecting So Okay, It's Average titles). In 2017, he handed the #3 spot to Destiny 2, noting that "sorry you couldn't be higher on the list, but hey, there is something appealingly ironic about coming third in a mediocrity contest." |
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The Unshaved Mouse refers to child voice actors who did less-than-stellar work as "very nice young ladies/gentlemen doing their best." From one of the "Bats vs. Bolts" reviews: |
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Mick Foley tells a story in one of his books about Owen Hart's feud with Dan Severn. Evidently, when Mick asked Owen how his match went with Severn, Owen replied with "He's a nice guy." When Mick repeated the question, Owen responded again with "He's a nice guy." | |
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In the Strong Bad Email "rock opera", an Easter egg shows the "rave reviews" for Strong Bad's rock opera include reviews like "SBEMAIL! is a triumph of some sort!" and "SBEMAIL! is better than a goat!" | |
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Interstitial: Actual Play: It crops up when the party encounter Merlin in Twilight Town. He thinks the dropout from Yen Sid's class is Edith rather than Criss, and Criss defends her by claiming that she doesn't have nearly the potential Yen Sid looks for in a student and would never be taught by him. Again near the end of the first season. While trying to brag about his companions, Criss gives impressive images of Edith and Roxanne and then implies the most interesting thing about Marche is that he can drive a car. |
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Katawa Shoujo: When discussing grouping with Misha and Shizune, the former being the least academically gifted of all the main characters, Hisao says that Misha's handwriting is nice. Akira says the best part about visiting her parents' house in Scotland was that it was by the beach. She hasn't forgiven them for leaving them behind in Japan years ago. |
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The Little Mermaid: Eric is presented with a large, extremely gaudy statue of himself and raises his eyebrow, less than pleased, while his dog Max snarls at the statue in complete disapproval. | |
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An example also crops up in one of the movies under review: they note that in Alley Cats Strike, Todd's line that people will see Ken because he's "real and [he's] there" falls under this trope. | |
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Captain America: When Cap meets John Jameson, son of J. Jonah Jameson, the conversation quickly turns to how ol' J.J. feels about most superheroes. John assures Cap that his dad once said something nice about him. Once. (and by Jonah standards, that's practically gushing.) | |
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Muppet fan site ToughPigs reviewed the Rich Little episode of The Muppet Show, and they clearly didn't enjoy the guest star, saying that the episode's best joke is Kermit calling Rich Little a "master impressionist." | |
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Mr Puntila and His Man Matti: After Puntila, while drunk, has said about the attaché, fiancé of his daughter Eva, that he "isn't a man", Eva defends the attaché in conversation with Matti as "an intelligent and kind man whom you can't judge by his appearance, or by what he says or what he does." | |
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