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Harsher in Hindsight is a certain event, plotline, joke or saying where a later event (in the story or real life) comes up to make it worse. It can lead to episodes or issues being pulled or held from re-running if executives want it to be Distanced from Current Events. This leads to a rather heartwrenching moment and makes some people feel uneasy when they view the event in the original work. It is different from Does This Remind You of Anything?, which is for works released shortly after the tragic event, and where the similarity in the plot is intentional. Note, however, that there is usually a delay between the creation of a work and the day when it finally becomes available to the public, and sometimes a tragic event similar to a point from the plot takes place in the meantime. Sometimes the work is slightly modified to avoid this effect, but sometimes doing so would change it so much, or would demand so many resources, that the work is released anyway as it was initially conceived. Compare Distanced from Current Events, Life Imitates Art, Cerebus Retcon (elements that were originally comedic or light-hearted are later deconstructed and played as tragic). Note that if the event in question is something inevitable, such as an actor dying after having played a character who was killed off, that's not necessarily this. We all have to go at some point. It would only be this trope if the death was somehow similar to how they died onscreen. It is also possible that an actor portraying a sympathetic character turns out to be a heinous person in real life, but that is not enough to deem all of their scenes as harsher in hindsight; the moment in the work must be somehow related to their heinous actions then felt worse because of the scandal. And if a work references something that already was an issue back then, but "recently" became more relevant, such as police racism and brutality, contagious illnesses, or natural disasters, there needs to be specific details in common with the real life event for it to be worth listing here. Contrast Hilarious in Hindsight (though Black Comedy makes some overlap possible), Heartwarming in Hindsight. This trope usually relates to certain events and plot twists, so beware of unmarked spoilers! Note: Examples can only be added once the event that makes them harsher has ended. In particular, anything related to a widespread disease, basic hygiene, hoarding of any kind, or something similar to social distancing doesn't inherently mean that there's a connection to the COVID-19 Pandemic. Please don't add examples of this nature. |
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Their episode on Mrs. Doubtfire, recorded before Robin Williams' death, manages to avert this for the most part, given that they do praise Williams for being talented when he does more than just riff countless impressions, and mention that the fault lies more with the bad script and director Chris Columbus for not trying to rein him in. Nonetheless, some moments are... disquieting, to say the least. | |
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Mom Can't Cook! Discusses this several times: After spending all of the Zenon: Girl of the 21st Century episode joking about how they have no idea what the connotations of the film's expression "blow an O-ring" are, they note in the next episode that they got many emails telling them that the Challenger disaster was caused by a part called an O-ring failing. Both of them are baffled as to why Disney would add this very dark piece of slang into a kids' film (Zenon was adapted from a book, but "blow an O-ring" was a Disney original, so to speak), and seem to consider it an example of this trope. This is brought up in the decription for the episode on Zenon: The Zequel as well: When discussing First Kid, they bring up how the titular kid is just talking to and agreeing to meet up with strangers online, and his bodyguard's only concern is if he's told anyone his real identity. The fact that Cadet Kelly was made and set in 2002, a year before the disastrous Second Gulf War, draws quite a bit of attention from the hosts, who assume all the characters were shipped off to Iraq the next year and suffered horribly. |
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In-story example from Hello from the Hallowoods. Watching Little Mikey get bullied is hard enough on its own, but then we find out two of the bullies picking on him for his "boyfriend" are together as adults, and at least one of them is still dealing deep-seated internalized homophobia. Relistening to the bullying scene becomes darker knowing it's not only coming from a place of self-hatred, but one that hasn't gone away after more than a decade. | |
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The We Hate Movies podcast: The Running Gag in their episode for She's All That is "Do not worry about Paul Walker!" Their episode on Mrs. Doubtfire, recorded before Robin Williams' death, manages to avert this for the most part, given that they do praise Williams for being talented when he does more than just riff countless impressions, and mention that the fault lies more with the bad script and director Chris Columbus for not trying to rein him in. Nonetheless, some moments are... disquieting, to say the least. In the Deep Impact episode (recorded before Williams' death), they suggest that he might have been one of the elite few selected by the government to survive the asteroid in one of the underground caves for "comic relief," with one of the guys groaning "Good Lord. I'd commit suicide if I was locked in a cave with Robin Williams." In the The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day episode, the guys riff on Troy Duffy's feud with Harvey Weinstein and strongly side with Weinstein as the better person, saying that while Duffy is an arrogant hack who makes too many Gay Panic jokes, Weinstein is just a mean studio exec who makes great movies. Weinstein would, a few years later, be accused of a spree of sexual assaults and other crimes, making him even more of a pariah than Duffy. |
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When discussing First Kid, they bring up how the titular kid is just talking to and agreeing to meet up with strangers online, and his bodyguard's only concern is if he's told anyone his real identity. | |
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In the Deep Impact episode (recorded before Williams' death), they suggest that he might have been one of the elite few selected by the government to survive the asteroid in one of the underground caves for "comic relief," with one of the guys groaning "Good Lord. I'd commit suicide if I was locked in a cave with Robin Williams." | |
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The July 2020 issue of Empire magazine had a list of "50 Greatest Movie Heroes" which included Black Panther, ending the entry with "long may he reign." Three months later, Empire was doing a massive tribute issue following the shocking passing of Chadwick Boseman. | |
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MAD: In the "20 Dumbest People, Events, and Things" for 2008, Amy Winehouse's destructive behavior was listed at number 11. The end of the entry stated: "It makes us wonder if her next full-house appearance will be at a funeral home." About two-and-a-half years later, Winehouse was found dead in her London flat at age 27. In 2019, the “Dumbest thing� of the year was the assumption that MAD would stop publishing new material completely after firing most of their staff. They insisted new issues would be a mix of first runs and reprints. Which was true...at a 20-80 split. And only for a few more months. |
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The Four Gospels: Matthew 25:8-9 has become more disturbing from World War II to this day. | |
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Episode 32 of Hat Films' podcast Hat Chat was named after (and had a long segment related to) a Russian space experiment on the impact of zero-gravity on geckos having sex. During the segment, they joked the geckos would probably all die horribly. The satellite eventually returned with all occupants having frozen to death. This is perhaps Hilarious in Hindsight now that Smith owns three geckos. | |
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The June 1993 Disney Adventures cover featured Michael Jackson carrying a delighted Pinocchio (his favorite Disney character, according to the magazine) on his shoulders. Two months later, Jackson was first accused of child molestation and in the years to come his Neverland Ranch would be compared to Pleasure Island, where young boys were free to play but had to pay a horrific price for their fun — including at his 2004-05 trial on a second set of charges. Similarly, all the "Pied Piper of Pop" accolades that flew around him in The '80s turned sour in the wake of the accusations, as people remembered what happened to the kids he enchanted. (A Cracked back cover in '93 spoofed this with Jackson as "The Pied Piper of Encino".) | |
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RiffTrax: During the commentary of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, either Mike Nelson or Kevin Murphy makes an offhand comment about Heath Ledger dying of a drug-related matter. Although this was released back in 2006 while he was still alive, anyone who's heard it after the unfortunate events of January 2008 when Ledger died of a sleeping pill overdose has to just cringe. On the The Avengers (2012) commentary, when Loki grabbed Tony by the neck after talking about "performance issues", Mike Nelson said "Yes! Choke him before he goes full Robin Williams! Thank you". This was two years before Williams hanged himself. |
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The Bible: The Four Gospels: Matthew 25:8-9 has become more disturbing from World War II to this day. Book of Genesis: Genesis 8:7-12 talks about Noah's Ark during the time when the whole Earth is already submerged in floods. On August 7, 2012, much of Manila, Philippines was submerged in floods due to heavy monsoon rains. Given the Bible's enormous length and scope, there is almost always a passage somewhere that brings contemporary events to mind — people see analogues to the Roman Empire in the European Union, to "the four horsemen" in Genghis, Subotai, Kublai and Ogedai Khan, etc. |
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The fact that Cadet Kelly was made and set in 2002, a year before the disastrous Second Gulf War, draws quite a bit of attention from the hosts, who assume all the characters were shipped off to Iraq the next year and suffered horribly. | |
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Naturally, any TV Guide cover featuring Bill Cosby comes off much worse today. Notably, in 2013, he was chosen to represent TV of the 1980s for covers marking TV Guide's 60th anniversary, less than a year before the horrific reports of his crimes came to light. | |
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Jokingly invoked in the parody commentary for Batman & Robin, where, while in-character as director Joel Schumacher and writer Akiva Goldsman, the guys brought up the fact that R. Kelly contributed to the film's soundtrack. They jokingly noted that Kelly was still a respected and well-liked singer during the late 90s, and that all the disturbing details about his personal life and sexual misconduct made it difficult for the movie to secure a rerelease to celebrate its 20 year anniversary. | |
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On the The Avengers (2012) commentary, when Loki grabbed Tony by the neck after talking about "performance issues", Mike Nelson said "Yes! Choke him before he goes full Robin Williams! Thank you". This was two years before Williams hanged himself. | |
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In the Analyze Phish miniseries of podcasts on the Earwolf Radio Network, comedy writer Harris Wittels and Scott Aukerman attend a 2013 Phish concert in a final effort to get Aukerman to appreciate the band. Before the show, Wittels takes Aukerman around to various drug dealers who provide purportedly psychotropic substances to help get Aukerman in the zone. Through it all, the two comedy writers joke around and make light of Wittels' familiarity with drug culture. The episode did not get released until almost a year after it was recorded due to Wittels checking himself into rehab, and he died of a drug overdose in 2015. | |
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My Brother, My Brother and Me: One episode featured a brief bit involving a Robin Williams impersonation which ended in an implied suicide. This episode was released shortly before Williams's death by suicide. The podcast's creators expressed regret over this bit, and removed it from the version of the episode currently available on the show's feed. Another episode had a bit where Travis jokingly suggested that Kevin Spacey was being forced to make terrible movies like Nine Lives (2016) because someone was using damaging information to blackmail him. The following year, Spacey was outed as a sexual predator who was accused of having harassed numerous young men, including Star Trek: Discovery actor Anthony Rapp, who claims he was only 14 when Spacey tried to seduce him. |
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In the parody commentary for Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2, Tim Batt jokingly claimed that Scott Baio has a close relationship with American law enforcement because he's been arrested so many times. The following year, former child actress Nicole Eggert alleged that Baio molested her on the set of Charles in Charge. | |
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The Worst Idea of All Time: Jokingly invoked in the parody commentary for Batman & Robin, where, while in-character as director Joel Schumacher and writer Akiva Goldsman, the guys brought up the fact that R. Kelly contributed to the film's soundtrack. They jokingly noted that Kelly was still a respected and well-liked singer during the late 90s, and that all the disturbing details about his personal life and sexual misconduct made it difficult for the movie to secure a rerelease to celebrate its 20 year anniversary. In the parody commentary for Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2, Tim Batt jokingly claimed that Scott Baio has a close relationship with American law enforcement because he's been arrested so many times. The following year, former child actress Nicole Eggert alleged that Baio molested her on the set of Charles in Charge. |
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Like most podcasts produced through a network, Mystery Show ends some episodes with promos for the network (Gimlet Media in this case) and their other shows. Starlee gushing about her employers and their other projects can be uncomfortable considering their somewhat bitter separation after the first season. | |
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Book of Genesis: Genesis 8:7-12 talks about Noah's Ark during the time when the whole Earth is already submerged in floods. On August 7, 2012, much of Manila, Philippines was submerged in floods due to heavy monsoon rains. | |
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During the commentary of Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, either Mike Nelson or Kevin Murphy makes an offhand comment about Heath Ledger dying of a drug-related matter. Although this was released back in 2006 while he was still alive, anyone who's heard it after the unfortunate events of January 2008 when Ledger died of a sleeping pill overdose has to just cringe. | |
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While the infamous Sports Illustrated Cover Jinx is often the source of laughs, it can also go the other way. It can't be counted how many times SI features a cover of an athlete with talk of having a great season only for them to suffer a season (if not career) ending injury (sometimes when that very issue is still on the stands). Obviously, any cover featuring O.J. Simpson as everything right about football has a much different meaning today. The 1998 "Sportsman of the Year" issue featured Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa, whose home run race had invigorated baseball, dressed like classic Greek Olympians. Today, both men are known to have been taking performance-enhancing drugs during their careers, tarnishing their legacy. In late 2012, SI did a cover story on Notre Dame player Manti Te'o losing both his beloved grandmother and his long-time girlfriend in the same week. It led to a huge outpouring of support to Te'o and pushed his fame. Months later, it would be revealed Te'o's girlfriend never existed with him claiming he'd been "catfished," others believing he had made the whole thing up and the magazine among many with egg on their face. In a 2014 60th anniversary issue, SI noted they had devoted nearly a dozen covers to Lance Armstrong, hailing his heroic recovery from cancer to win seven Tour de France races. This included naming him Sportsman of the Year 2002 Sportsman of the Year and how he was a great ambassador to sports. Thus, they were as rocked as everyone when in 2012, Armstrong confessed to having been taking PED's through his entire career, leading to him being stripped of all those victories, banned from cycling, and destroying his heroic image. The 2020 Baseball Preview special hit newsstands and subscribers on the weekend of March 13...the same weekend the COVID-19 Pandemic caused mass shutdowns of the United States and curtailed the MLB season to a 60-game schedule. The 2021 Olympic preview issue featured Simone Biles on the cover and speculating how many gold medals she'd win. While the issue was on the stands, Biles had to pull out of several events due to various health and mental issues (including her aunt dying) as well as intense public pressure. |
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