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The opposite of Hollywood Pudgy. Basically, the media's tendency to present women far skinnier than the average person as attractive, healthy and average/normal. If you were to take these people and compare them with a random selection of people, it would become obvious that many of them are much thinner than average. Often they will have an extremely small waist, very shallow ribcage, weak hips, and extremely narrow shoulders that very few women in the real world can possess. Women considered "fit" enough to be shown on TV generally fall into the fifth percentile when it comes to shoulder width and rib cage depth. These are hereditary traits that no woman can actually control and that have nothing to do with actual physical fitness. Yet these women are the ones who Hollywood shows as "average", especially if they have unrealistically enormous breasts (that are almost definitely implants) hanging just above that extremely narrow waist. For men the opposite holds true. Any male who isn't sporting a six-pack, ripped pecs, or biceps as thick as oak trunks is often portrayed as, or is implied to be, scrawny and weak, even if the character is supposed to be fourteen years old. (The opposite may be true in cultures that favor the Bishounen archetype for male beauty.) Again, if you were to take these guys and compare them with a random selection of men in the real world, their bodies would not be seen as very average-looking. Ditto in animation, video games, and a great many comics, doubly so because they aren't required to find living people who have the desired looks. In fact, being unconstrained by human physiology allows non-live-action media to exaggerate features; see also Noodle People, Most Common Superpower and Heroic Build. This is quite possibly a side effect of the entertainment industry's tendency to cast, and then depict, an entire slate of attractive people, except for when the plot demands otherwise. Subtrope of Hollywood Beauty Standards. Contrast Hollywood Pudgy and Hollywood Homely. Compare Informed Attractiveness. |
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Brie Bella has gotten hateful comments hurled at her by fans claiming she looks like a stick insect and "needs to eat something". This is ignoring the possibility that she merely just looks much thinner because she is next to a lot of very curvy and muscular women on Total Divas. The twins have said in interviews that Brie is naturally slimmer proportioned than Nikki. Additionally Brie is a vegan so she's bound to be a little less curvy than her sister. Showing how Hate Dumb really is in effect, her sister Nikki has gotten the reverse of this and been referred to as "the fat twin".note Back when they became identical models, Nikki had to do daily ab and cardio workouts to match Brie's naturally skinnier frame Total Divas does show the effects of this trope. Brie panics about an upcoming photoshoot and tries to get her sister to do a juice cleanse with her. As in drinking nothing but smoothies for 30 days. While a cleanse is often a good idea if one wants to detox after too much junk food, it's the sort of thing that should just be done for 2-3 days at most. | |
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Buffy: One of Sarah Michelle Gellar's stunt doubles talked about how hard the popularity of this was on female stunt doubles. The stunt double was previously a suit actor for the Pink Power Ranger and several of the monsters at different times, and, despite being the double for wispy gymnast Amy Jo Johnson and willowy dancer Catherine Sutherland, it gave her a little more room in terms of body shape (since the identity-obscuring costume and scenes shared with a team of muscular male stunt actors always made her look smaller by virtue of perspective.) However, she went to Buffy, and as the "Lollipop" look (as she called it) came in vogue in Hollywood, she said she had a hell of a time matching body-type with Gellar and still being healthy enough to do her job. She also said that Rangers switched over from an American to an Asian stunt team around the time she left for possibly the same reason (she mentioned the male actors they brought over from Japan and Korea were about the same size she was, right after she mentioned she was sweating herself down to nothing doing fight scenes in the California sun under several feet of foam rubber.) Average-sized Amber Benson was criticized for her weight on fansite boards, despite being only large compared to her thin costars. |
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House. Particularly Thirteen (Hugh Laurie is skinny—which given the fact he had been a rower at Cambridge makes sense—but any perception of sexiness arises out of his scruffy beard and big blue eyes). Lampshaded in-verse a few times with Cameron. "All right. You weigh 90 pounds because it makes you healthier?" At one point, House "jokes" that Cameron is too thin to be menstruating. |
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V2009 series. Justified for the Visitors. For the humans, not so much. | |
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A.J. Lee has faced similar comments, though not to the same extent. She is naturally very petite and again looks much thinner than she actually is in comparison to the more voluptuous Divas on the roster. For added effect, her Chick Busters partner Kaitlyn is a former body builder. So of course AJ is going to look anorexic next to her. AJ is even known to crack jokes about frequently being mistaken as Older Than They Look. And weirdly enough, in her autobiography, she claims she was eliminated from NXT because "no one wants to fuck you". | |
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Film Brain of Bad Movie Beatdown attempted to criticise Hollywood Pudgy in Bride Wars - a scene where Kate Hudson's character is tricked into gaining too much weight to fit into her wedding dress - but ended up falling headlong into this trope (he remarked "Kate Hudson would look healthy if she put on five pounds"). In recent years this has come to be seen as just a backhanded form of body shaming. | |
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Taken to the extreme in The Simpsons. In the episode "Sleeping With The Enemy," we see a child model who weights so little she's reputed to have gone back to her birth weight, and becomes too thin to see should one look at her from the side. | |
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The girls in Winx Club have small waists and really wide hips (their hips are drawn even wider from Season 5 onward). Kinda justified for the main characters and their magical friends (with their magical insect wings, it doesn't seem so strange that they have an insect-like body structure). | |
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Nine Perfect Strangers: Masha's backstory has been changed so that she wasn't Formerly Fat and nothing is made of her extremely restrictive diet. Despite Nicole Kidman's thinness, it isn't treated as remotely unusual and is portrayed as healthy, rather than in the novel, where it was the result of an extremely strict regime. | |
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The Devil Wears Prada had Anne Hathaway initially told to gain ten pounds, but they changed it around so that she had to lose that amount instead - and would be padded for Andy's pre-makeover scenes. She and Emily Blunt were constantly starving during production (as Emily's character is continually trying to lose weight). | |
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The male counterpart would be newer G.I. Joe figures. If blown up to full size, they would have roughly 25-inch biceps. For comparison, jacked-as-all-hell Mark McGwire had about 22 inches at his peak, and Hulk Hogan, at his steroid-laced hugest, would brag about his 24-inch, which were really only around 21-22 inch, "pythons". | |
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Defied by Jennifer Lawrence when she starred in The Hunger Games, as she refused to lose weight to play Katniss. In the book it's a plot point that District 12 is starving, so Katniss is quite thin, but she opted not to send a negative message to impressionable young fans who would miss the context. | |
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Averted in Double Homework. Not one of the girls is super thin. In fact, Rachel (whom the protagonist dated before) has an athletic build, the protagonist says flat-out that he finds the average-bodied Daniela attractive, and in Lauren’s epilogue, he mentions her curves as his favorite thing about her body. | |
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Katey Harvey detailed an instance where she was told that if she needed to be hired by a major wrestling company, she'd have to lose weight to fit the 'Diva look'. She also detailed suffering from an eating disorder as a teenager, and getting praise for her figure when she'd been starving herself - and that getting over those insecurities to gain muscle was especially tricky. | |
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Esmeralda of The Hunchback of Notre Dame is the opposite case, where she has a very curvy body and is quite voluptuous for someone who lives on the streets and has to dance for change. | |
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LayCool referred to Maria Kanellis as "the underfed redhead" while they were also mocking Mickie James for being overweight. Giving this some uncomfortable Reality Subtext, Maria has confessed that she was told she was "too fat" by management. | |
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Nicely subverted in Ringer, as former prostitute and drug addict Bridget attempts to assume her healthier twin sister's identity, and everyone comments on how much thinner she is, which they largely don't see as a good thing. Of course it is still Sarah Michelle Gellar that they're talking about. | |
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Bridget Jones presented a Values Dissonance example. To pass as the British everywoman (who obsesses over a weight of 125-138 lbs), Renée Zellweger had to put on 20 pounds to carry the part. This wasn't much of an issue in Britain, but in America this put her outside the realm of "Hollywood starlet." Renee had to lose the weight before she could get Hollywood jobs again, surprising many British fans of the film with her rail-thin physique. She gained the weight back for the second film but not the third - and there was a line from Bridget mentioning that she was now at her ideal weight. | |
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Beyonce expressed backlash to the figure she maintained for Dreamgirls, saying she was relieved to be able to gain weight after it was over. She had to lose twenty pounds for the role. After having twins in 2017, she's said she's come to live with the fact that she'll never be as thin as she once was and finds it liberating. | |
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America's Next Top Model. All of them. Even the contestants portrayed as "big" or "full figured" are fantastically curvy but nowhere near fat. | |
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Becky Lynch likewise flirted with being a bodybuilder before she returned to wrestling in 2012 - before giving it up because she felt the weight levels she was expected to maintain were not healthy. | |
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The Suite Life of Zack & Cody had an episode where Maddie and London were respectively convinced that they were too fat and too skinny. Refreshingly they were taught An Aesop that binge eating to gain weight is just as unhealthy as excessive exercise to lose it. | |
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Big Little Lies: In both the book and series, Jane is portrayed as a compulsive exerciser. In the book, this is made clear to be a side effect of an eating disorder she developed after being raped, which led to her losing a lot of weight. In the series, it isn't commented upon, nor is it treated as abnormal, and in fact Jane's (thin) frame causes her to blend in perfectly with the other women. | |
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In the Vampire Academy series, the Moroi vampires are naturally tall and svelte. Lead character Rose notes that while Moroi have a body humans idolize, in turn most Moroi women covet the more curvaceous figures that humans and dhampirs have. In the spinoff series Bloodlines, human Sydney has body image issues by comparing herself to skinny Moroi women. In the first Bloodlines novel, a fashion designer convinces Jill to be one of her catwalk models due to her Moroi physique. |
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Sophia from Melody is extraordinarily petite. | |
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Ciem Webcomic Series: Ciem is the closest to this that Machinomics are capable of committing. Almost every female character uses the same custom "Barbie" mesh (Zenman's Curvy Default Replacement at Mod The Sims, with size B breasts.) Candi herself is extremely prone to narrowly avoiding being the poster girl for Hollywood Thin, especially as a teen. Her sisters, however, are implied to be slightly curvier with their clothes off; though there is little evidence in the written canon. Then again, since her sisters aren't superheroes, their being thinner is tolerated, if not actually justified: not having Candi's job gives them an excuse to be laz y(-ier). | |
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Michelle McCool faced massive insults from fans while she was getting pushed. She had a massive Hatedom that called her "Skeletor" because of her thin body type. On the flip side, Bryan Alvarez accused her of having an eating disorder, stating it was the reason she had been hospitalized sometime prior to Wrestlemania 23. Michelle denied the eating disorder story plenty of times, stating that the reason was ignoring health problems out of fear of losing her spot on television. For the record, Michelle is 5 ft 10 and was billed at 128 lbs. | |
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Clever show that it was, Sabrina: The Animated Series featured a character design for the girls that was just unsettling as far as their skin-and-bones stature was concerned. And the show even had an episode where two girls desire to lose weight to fit into a pair of jeans that only come in one size. Admittedly it did deliver An Aesop about body image but Harvey going on about a "creepy skinny girl" and Hilda and Zelda calling the model "scrawny" is undermined slightly by having Sabrina and Chloe being almost just as twig thin normally. | |
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CM Punk was later on the receiving end himself in WWE, where he was called a "Skinny Fat Ass" by Kevin Nash. In the wake of the Chris Benoit paterfamilicide, US news media put a spotlight on WWE and its drug issues. In a preemptive bypass to the buffer Straight Edge Punk's presence would have been to the inevitable criticism, reporters made sure to emphasize Punk was "half the size" of the other wrestlers in WWE. | |
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Daisy Jones & The Six: In the book, Daisy is heavily implied to have an eating disorder that manifests in her only eating one meal a day in order to maintain her thin frame. In the series, no mention of her having an eating disorder is made. The one scene that shows it (where Daisy goes to a hamburger place on a date and doesn't eat) in the book is changed in the series so that she actually eats two hamburgers. She stays extremely thin. | |
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Barbie is probably the most famous offender of this trope. Countless studies have been done trying to determine what she would look like if she were a real woman. They all say a wide variety of different things, but most come to a conclusion that can be summarized thus: "She would be extremely unhealthy, and her body type is virtually impossible for a real woman to attain." To be exact, they said that she would be unhealthily thin, six feet tall in her bare feet, have feet too small to walk with, and have a long, serpentine neck. This◊ is a good image showing just how ridiculous Barbie's proportions really are. | |
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The casts of My Little Pony: Equestria Girls and Littlest Pet Shop (2012) couple this with cartoonishly oversized heads and legs that would occupy two thirds of their height were it not for said oversized heads. | |
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My Year of Rest and Relaxation: Rava desperately wants to be thinner despite being a size 4 and is jealous of the narrator's thinness (she is significantly thinner than a 4). The narrator is also treated as beautiful by everyone (including herself), while she seems unimpressed by Rava's appearance. | |
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Nearly every woman in the show Tripping the Rift. All of them, human and alien alike, have wasp waists and massive racks. T'nuck's race is the major exception. (Sort of) justified in the case of Six, as she's a gynoid created to appeal to repressed nerds. |
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Subverted in Anger Management where Adam Sandler's character is confronted with a girl who's sensitive about her weight and thinks he's calling her fat. He tries to say she could stand to gain a few pounds, but this just makes her even angrier. It later turns out she was an actress hired to annoy him. | |
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Death Note volume 13 lists the height and weight of every major character. For some reason, they all seem to be underweight. Special mention goes to Light and L, who are both 5'10 and weight 119 and 110 pounds, respectively. | |
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Lost, which does this for both men and women (with the exception of Hurley). | |
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Kim Possible: In one episode, Kim states that Bonnie is 105 pounds. Her height is never stated but she looks taller than 5'3. 105 is underweight even for an active cheerleader. Despite this, Bonnie doesn't look nearly as small as she's stated to be. | |
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Clair Leonelli in Heat Guy J. The artist (Nobuteru Yuki) draws thin people to begin with, but really played it up with Clair. (It's especially noticeable with his dark clothes and sickly pale skin. Justified, as he's the resident ill boy in this anime. Averted in the manga, where he's still thin, but no more so than any other character, and not sickly looking. | |
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Merida in Brave is not an example in her film as while she's slender, is not impossibly so and has a figure justified by her love of horse riding and archery. However the Disney Princess merchandise received criticism for making her waist thinner to go with a controversial Girliness Upgrade. | |
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Mulan uses this to show the hypocrisy and inconsistency of the standards Mulan has to live up to. When preparing to meet the Matchmaker, Mulan is told that her future husband would prefer a girl with a tiny waist (as they tie a sash tightly to make her waist smaller). Upon seeing her, the Matchmaker immediately says she's too skinny. | |
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For some of the Disney Princess characters, it actually makes sense for them to be thin in-universe (although Author Appeal was clearly the main intent). Snow White and Cinderella grew up in poverty as servant girls. Aurora and Belle likewise had modest upbringings in the countryside. Ariel and Pocahontas are established to be very athletic and adventurous. Of course in the 2000s, one of the most common criticisms of the franchise was the 'unrealistic body' message the characters were sending to young girls. | |
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Anne Hathaway refused to say her methods for losing weight in Les Misérables (2012) - she lost twenty five pounds in a short space of time - as she didn't want fans trying to emulate them. The point for the weight loss was that Fantine was starving to death on the streets. | |
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Ally McBeal was this trope at its extreme. Portia DeRossi has recently come out about her anorexia issues stemming from the show. Callista Flockhart was no fatty either. | |
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Dawn Marie admits to being a stress eater and that her body type in WWE came about from excessive dieting (and she's admitted to not being a fan of exercise). When there were talks of her returning to WWE, she said if she were to she would need months of notice - in order to plan a diet to get to the ideal weight for TV. | |
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The eponymous character of Nana. She's so thin as to be one of the Noodle People; one has to wonder how she got pregnant in the first place! | |
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Discussed in The Screwtape Letters. Screwtape mentions that Hell's newest program on sexuality is to proclaim that being unnaturally thin is natural and attractive. | |
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To play the role of an anorexic girl in To the Bone, Lily Collins had to lose around 9kg | |
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Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis lost about 10 kg to play the Black Swan | |
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Nearly every female character in Danny Phantom has a small waist, generous rear end, and curvy legs. Even the dead ones. And his middle-aged mom. | |
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Subverted with Alexa Bliss, who started training at WWE right after some time as a body builder. She was dangerously underweight as a result and was told she had to gain ten pounds before she could train. Alexa has also admitted to struggling with an eating disorder in her youth - which she was able to overcome through getting into fitness. | |
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In the 'Diva Era', Kelly Kelly was considered the ideal body type - with Kaitlyn (mentioned above) saying that Vince McMahon prefers waify bodies like her. Kelly's body type came from ten years of gymnastics, where she admitted to doing nothing but training and had to constantly watch what she ate. | |
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Love Island: All the contestants are extremely ripped in the case of men and very skinny for women. It's become a point of controversy that they've never had a plus-size or even slightly bigger than very thin contestant. | |
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That's So Raven has an episode where Raven tries to model a dress she designed for a Fashion Magazine - only to discover the magazine photoshopped her to be thinner on the cover. They get a professional to model the dress on the catwalk, which Raven crashes. Refreshingly, rather than demonising the thin model, they have her also criticise the magazine's blatant use of photoshop. | |
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Aya Brea was hit with this in the third installment with Aya originally being more curvaceous (but still not at all unrealistic), having her body being a twig, compare the artwork◊ and then check◊ the models◊, the latter ones she has a much petite frame, compared to her original depictions. | |
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Family Guy takes aim at this - in one episode, Kate Moss is depicted as so thin as to be two-dimensional◊. She's blown out of the window by a stiff breeze◊, and falls through a gap in the floorboards◊. In another episode, Lois becomes a model, and is given diet pills by her agent in order to 'keep up' with other models. She and other models compare the visibility of their ribcages◊, and play tunes on them with xylophone mallets. |
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Hiko Seijuro in Rurouni Kenshin. He spends a lot of time pumping iron to offset the side-effects of the Hiten-Mitsurugi Ryu, to the point where he has weights put into his trenchcoat. As a result, he has biceps the size of tree trunks, washboard abs, and huge pecs. Contrast this to his student, Kenshin, who does not spend as much time weight-training (and, while not flabby or scrawny, is nowhere near as muscular as his teacher.) | |
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