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Oblivious Mockery
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Sometimes, whether or not the universe is realistic, some actions are deemed either ridiculously dangerous, idiotic, or downright impossible to pull off. Nothing to be really proud of in any case. The characters talk about such actions and, soon enough, Alice will wonder out loud (probably sniggering) − "Who would be stupid enough to do that?" What she doesn't know is that Bob, to or in presence of whom she said it, actually did the stupid thing in question. Whether he succeeded or failed miserably, he will either not answer anything or pretend to agree with Alice with an embarrassed expression; he may even be personally proud of it. If the viewer knows it, A Smile Ensues: it's a form of Continuity Nod. What makes this trope funny is the fact that Alice says it totally innocently, without any clue she is mocking someone within hearing range. Hence the Oblivious Mockery. In some cases, Bob may reveal out loud that he did said action, and may or may not try to justify himself. Basically, this follows this kind of pattern: Can overlap with an in-universe Old Shame or be a type of Dramatic Irony. Compare Oblivious Guilt Slinging, Insult Friendly Fire, Innocently Insensitive and I Resemble That Remark!. Contrast Noodle Incident, where the characters vaguely talk about an event they know but the viewer doesn't. Contrast and compare Who Would Be Stupid Enough?, when Alice tempts fate and is proven right away that someone is stupid enough, and Schmuck Bait. See also It Will Never Catch On. The inverse trope is Right Behind Me, when Alice talks dirty about Bob without knowing he's, well, right behind her. Compare I'm Standing Right Here, where the person is still right there, but the mockery is less oblivious. See also More Insulting than Intended, where the mockery is intentional but to a greater degree than the mocker knows. Compare Dropping the Bombshell. |
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In Mrs. Doubtfire, Daniel mocks a terribly boring kids show host, and wonders what idiot put him on the air. The guy he says this to is the company president and he put him on the air. Luckily, he agrees with Daniel's assessment. | |
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In Super Effective: He says this while standing next to Red, who just happens to have chosen fire. |
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In one episode of The Simpsons, Luann Van Houten thinks Marge and her husband Kirk are having an affair. When she confronts Homer on this he laughs and tells her "no woman would want to sleep with that loser" before remembering who he's talking to. | |
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There's a Blue Beetle comic where Batman shows Jaime the Brother Eye satellite which went berserk and created an OMAC army in Infinite Crisis. Jaime asks what kind of person would build a machine like that, and Batman asks him not to let Green Arrow hear him say that (Batman was the one who built it). | |
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In one chapter of Naruto, having heard that Jugo went to Orochimaru voluntarily, Suigetsu comments that only someone completely nuts would throw himself into Orochimaru's arms. Right next to Sasuke, who threw himself into Orochimaru's arms for the sake of his revenge. | |
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Batman: Black and White: Near the beginning of "Devil's Trumpet", an old bluesman comments about "the soulless crap that these records stores blare at you", gesturing at a nearby store playing the latest popular jazz album — not knowing that the man he's talking to is the headline performer on that very album. | |
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In Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Trials and Tribulations, a museum worker says that any intelligent person would think that the writing on an urn belonging to a clan whose founder was Ami Fey would say "Ami," and would reassemble the urn to say that if they broke it. Unknown to her, the person who broke the urn reassembled it incorrectly with the name spelled wrong and is now standing next to her. | |
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In Sunset Boulevard, writer Joe Gillis complains to the producer Sheldrake that Betty Shaefer, a script reader, would have turned down Gone with the Wind; only for Sheldrake to reply "No. That was me". | |
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In Jay's Journey, Omelio wonders aloud what sort of pirate would be dumb enough to deliberately blow up his own ship... in the presence of the pirate who did exactly that. | |
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Several gags in Curb Your Enthusiasm rely on this. Typically, someone tells Larry David how rotten they think George Costanza is or how a plot of Seinfeld was unbelievable because nobody would act that stupidly. They don't realize that George was based on Larry and that many "unbelievable" Seinfeld plots were based on things Larry actually did. | |
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Best of Three: What ultimately made Helen get over Grant was an incident in English class. He ended up writing scathing insults, such as "startlingly devoid of imagination", on poems that he was unaware Helen wrote. Helen realized that he was an "acute asshole" all along, and throw away her book of poetry about him. Grant has a Jerkass Realization and apologizes, mending his relationship with Helen. | |
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Schlock Mercenary has a few, such as this: | |
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In Turnabout Storm, during the investigation, Rainbow Dash gives Phoenix Wright the key to the victim's hotel room and reveals that she found it under the welcome mat. She then notes that only an idiot would hide their spare room key there. Phoenix smiles, nods, and makes a mental note to move his key when he returns home. Fluttershy of all ponies gets a couple moments of this when she first meets Phoenix. First, she's legitimately afraid of the spiky "beast" on Phoenix's head, then when she mistakes Phoenix for an actual phoenix we get this exchange: |
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Ultra Fast Pony. "Winning" has the scene (for context, Applejack and Apple Bloom are both Irish): | |
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In Fate/strange Fake, the Snowfield Saber dismisses the idea of using the Holy Grail to rewrite his time in history, saying that such a wish is "nothing to wish on the Grail about". As it happens, that was the franchise's first Saber'snote and this Saber's inspiration to boot, so double oblivious original wish. | |
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Seinfeld: In "The Wallet", Jerry throws away a watch given to him by his parents because he didn't like, but it was later found by Jerry's uncle Leo who takes it for himself. This follows up to its continuation episode "The Watch" where Jerry is having dinner with his parents and Leo. Leo proceeds to show off his new watch and says "What kind of idiot would throw away a perfectly good watch?' | |
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In the Death Note fic Lies On Yamamoto the oblivious school friend gets into a debate with Light Yagami on how Kira Didn't Think This Through: | |
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Early in the Ben 10 What If? episode "Gwen 10", Gwen gets the Omnitrix stuck on her wrist and turns into Heatblast. Ben, who remembers going through this before, warns her about the danger of using fiery powers in the middle of a forest. She immediately responds that only an idiot would set the forest on fire. Naturally, that's exactly what Ben did in the first episode. | |
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In one episode of Daria, Daria lets Trent talk her into getting her navel pierced. When Jodie finds out, she thinks it's pretty cool "As long as you didn't do it for some guy." causing Daria to say "Uh, no, that would be wrong." | |
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In the fifth case of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ema Skye finds an ostentatious trophy in a prosecutor's office and declares the owner "must be a real stuck-up jerk!" Said jerk is her crush, Miles Edgeworth, and he arrived just in time to hear every word. | |
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Words May Hurt: When Aizawa complains about how Midoriya only earned Rescue Points during the practical portion of U.A.'s Entrance Exam, Endeavor (of all characters) doesn't see the problem with that, remarking that it would be much more of a warning sign if someone only earned Villain Points, taking down enemies without any regard for those around him. He's blissfully unaware that Bakugou did just that. Making this worse is that the main reason for this meeting in the first place is that Aizawa was attempting to get Midoriya expelled from the Hero Course by framing him for how Bakugou injured another student, something that Saito immediately brings up, to Endeavor's shock. | |
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Darths & Droids; The Imperial officer who brings Luke in after his surrender on Endor mocks his parentage- to Vader. Luke points out the recently-revealed relation. | |
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From Get Smart: | |
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In Fairy Tail, Gray does this a couple of times to Mirajane, such as when he complains about the drawings she made for rebuilding the guild hall, not knowing that she was the one who drew them. | |
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Doctor Who: In "The Unicorn and the Wasp", when the Doctor and Donna try to solve a murder mystery with Agatha Christie, Donna states how unlikely this scenario is by comparing it with "meeting Charles Dickens, on Christmas, while surrounded by ghosts". Which is something that happened to the Doctor, before he and Donna met. | |
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Steven Universe: Future: In "Bluebird", Steven shows Amethyst some crude crayon drawings which he believes were made by Bluebird Azurite, and rants to her about how terrible they look. Amethyst reveals that she was the one who made those drawings and runs away crying. | |
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In Hajime no Ippo, a flashback shows us how Genji Kamogawa hardened his fists by punching large wooden logs into a hill. Later in the manga, Ippo hits logs into a hill with a hammer to train his leg and body muscles. Itagaki tells Kamogawa about this training. | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: In "Gone", Xander mocks Spike by saying that only a nutcase or a complete loser would sleep with him...in the presence of Buffy who's done just that the night before. The comment gives her an added incentive not to confess what's happened to her friends and forestall her Destructive Romance. When Ben is being fired for not turning up for work for two weeks in "Tough Love", this dialogue happens with a supervising doctor: |
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Ace Attorney: In the fifth case of Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, Ema Skye finds an ostentatious trophy in a prosecutor's office and declares the owner "must be a real stuck-up jerk!" Said jerk is her crush, Miles Edgeworth, and he arrived just in time to hear every word. In Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Trials and Tribulations, a museum worker says that any intelligent person would think that the writing on an urn belonging to a clan whose founder was Ami Fey would say "Ami," and would reassemble the urn to say that if they broke it. Unknown to her, the person who broke the urn reassembled it incorrectly with the name spelled wrong and is now standing next to her. |
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In I Love Lucy, Ethel's birthday is coming up, and Lucy is stunned that Fred is planning to buy her a toaster, she ends up convincing him to buy her a pair of pants. When she opens up the gift, she's not thrilled about them, saying she actually wanted a toaster, and wonder's who the idiot was who convinced Fred to buy them. Let's just say that the rest of the episode revolves around Lucy and Ethel fighting. | |
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Played with in Friends: Rachel & Monica discover a message on Ross's answering machine from Emily, Ross's ex-wife. Emily is having second thoughts about her upcoming marriage to someone else. They debate whether or not to erase the message - Monica wants to, Rachel doesn't. | |
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