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This is a form of boast wherein Bob claims that he is the best at something by listing people who are well-known for being good at that thing and then declaring them inferior to himself. It's generally a sign that Bob is a Narcissist or a Small Name, Big Ego character — whose faith in his own superiority will be proven very false very soon — or otherwise Feigning Intelligence, but sometimes Bob really is that good. Note that the insulted persons do not have to be Real Life experts; they could be characters known for their skill in-universe. In this case, their fame will have to be established beforehand to get the best use out of this trope. For the even more outrageous claim that Bob is better than God, see Blasphemous Boast. For actual anti-platonism (which is the position that "abstract entities" don't exist) see Meaningless Meaningful Words. Distant cousin to Famous, Famous, Fictional, where a fictional person is established as a great [whatever] by having his name placed next to two Real Life [whatever]s, albeit without the unfavorable comparison. Compare Wrote the Book, where someone claims to have written the book on something or invented it because they are or think they are so good at that thing. |
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In Aladdin: The Series episode "Getting the Bugs Out", would-be world conqueror Mechanicles introduces himself as the "Greatest of the Great Greek Geniuses!" He immediately buttresses this pronouncement with "Archimedes? An amateur! Socrates? Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk..." | |
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Thrax, an anthropomorphic virus, in Osmosis Jones: "Ebola is a case of dandruff compared to me!" | |
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House has occasionally referred to other respected members of the medical community as "idiots". A rare example of this being Justified, as House usually does turn out to be smarter than they are (at least in that he's able to solve some puzzle they can't, House himself does some pretty stupid things for a guy as smart as him). | |
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On one episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Charlie participates in a trial of intelligence-enhancing drugs. While riding high on superintelligence, he casually insists that, Stephen Hawking, while talented, is really more of a celebrity than a scientist. This is especially funny when we learn that the drug was a placebo, which had no real effect on intelligence but skyrocketed Charlie's arrogance. | |
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Discworld: Wyrd Sisters has an instance where this is used, but the character in question is being described by the narration rather than doing the bragging himself. | |
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In H.Bomberguy's critiques of the works of Steven Moffat, including Sherlock and his final episodes of Doctor Who, part of his central thesis is his belief that Moffat appears to view himself as cleverer or superior to the original source material and often goes out of his way to prove it, often in ways that end up suggesting a certain amount of contempt or dismissiveness for the original material, inadvertently or otherwise. In Bomberguy's view, this ironically often just proves to trip Moffat up, as his ideas of "smarter and more interesting" tend to just end up as overwritten Complexity Addiction and style-over-substance gimmickry, whereas the original material usually just focuses on telling a simple, straightforward story with a hook that is often a lot cleverer in its simplicity. | |
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One episode of Profit has Jim Profit comment on how a spider carefully weaves its web, an invisible inescapable trap... Before stepping on it, calling it an amateur. | |
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Calvin and Hobbes: Calvin claims he's too smart for school and as proof claims: | |
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In The Usual Suspects, when preparing for an impressive sniping feat, MacManus mumbles to himself, "Oswald was a fag." | |
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3rd Rock from the Sun: | |
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Reed Richards is widely regarded as the smartest human in the universe. Even his enemies — The Wizard, The Mad Thinker, The Mole Man, and others — have great respect for his intellect, if only because they think he is the one man on Earth capable of appreciating what they have done. But then we get Doctor Doom, the one man in the entire Marvel Universe who thinks Reed is a hack, a fraud, and a complete and utter moron, and is fairly fond of reminding everyone in earshot of his feelings Every. Single. Issue. | |
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In A Study in Scarlet, Dr. Watson praises Sherlock Holmes by comparing him to Edgar Allan Poe's C. Auguste Dupin and Emile Gaboriau's Monsieur Lecoq. Holmes counters that "Dupin was a very inferior fellow" and "Lecoq was a miserable bungler." | |
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Three stories of The Adventures of Barry Ween, Boy Genius begin with the titular character quoting a famous intellectual and then proceeding to insult him. | |
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Mr. Mechanical from Freedom Force is a disgraced architect with an army of giant robots trying to destroy a city both because of its "inferior designs" and because they "sabotaged" one of his buildings (in truth, the building collapsed on its own). In his final rampage, he makes insulting remarks about Gropius and Frank Lloyd Wright. | |
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Also involving Reed: The heroes who have used the name Ant-Man get their powers from mass-shifting "Pym Particles" discovered (and named) by the original Ant-Man, Hank Pym. At one point in the Dark Reign era, in front of both of their respective teams, Reed makes the claim that he knows more about Pym Particles than Pym does. Hank's response? | |
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Hannibal Lecter is a world-renowned brilliant clinical psychiatrist, but he has nothing but disdain for his own field. He frankly states to Clarice Starling that he doesn't consider it a science, criticising it as "puerile", and comments that most psychology departments are filled with "ham radio enthusiasts and other personality-deficient buffs". | |
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In The Sword in the Stone, Madame Mim brags about being a better wizard than Merlin, "The world's most powerful bungler." | |
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At one point in the film adaptation of Watchmen, Adrian Veidt of Veidt Enterprises boasts to the heads of major corporations that he's worth more than all of them combined and can "buy and sell them all three times over". At least one of the other corporate representatives Adrian is addressing directly is a Real Life figure—Lee Iacocca, who is known for having revived the Chrysler Corporation in The '80s. | |
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In an urban legend/conspiracy sort of way, PAYDAY 2 has an example in the form of Duke comparing their current opponent, the ancient crime syndicate known as Kataru, to be of enough influence, reach and power that they make both the Illuminati and the Freemasons look like enthusiastic amateurs. | |
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In The Real Ghostbusters episode "Russian About", one of the Soviet professors declares "Einstein — fraud, phooey!", prompting Egon to argue with him. | |
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In Portal 2, after being called a "moron" one too many times, Wheatley decides to prove his intelligence by reading Machiavelli (or claiming to, anyway) and commenting on how easy it was. | |
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According to the killer in Mindhunters, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, and Ted Bundy are "tired old hacks." | |
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The Princess Bride: While boasting of his intelligence, Vizzini claims that he's much smarter than Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates. While his long speech is just a ploy to convince the Man in Black that he's deduced which of the cups is poisoned, he does seem to believe that he's that intelligent. | |
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When Deep Thought from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy mentions that it is the second most advanced computer, its operators name some other advanced computers that exist in the universe, but are casually dismissed with comments like "A mere abacus; mention it not" or "That computer could talk all four legs off a donkey, but only I could persuade it to take a walk afterward." | |
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In Tony Hawk's American Wasteland, the main character says this in reference to a well-known badass named Iggy Van Zandt: | |
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Stargate Atlantis: Rodney Mckay considers himself the smartest person in two galaxies and believes his own birthday to be as significant as Newton's and Einstein's. | |
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Baldur's Gate: Edwin gives us this if you repeatedly annoy him: Uniquely, Edwin can have a chance to face off Elminster and prove his claim and the trope. He spectacularly fails. Elminster is no moron, and he proceeds to strip Edwin of his magical abilities and turn him into a woman for good. |
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The murderous ghost in The Frighteners is obsessed in death, as he was in life, with racking up the highest body count of any serial killer in history. Whenever he passes one of their records, he crows with joy about it. His last words in life were "Got me a score of 12, sir, one more than Starkweather." Later on, his astral form brags about beating Gacy, wants to beat "the Russian cannibal"note a heavily implied Andrei Chikatilo because "the record should be held by an American", and says he can't wait to break Bundy's record so he can rub it in his face. | |
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Fantastic Four: Reed Richards is widely regarded as the smartest human in the universe. Even his enemies — The Wizard, The Mad Thinker, The Mole Man, and others — have great respect for his intellect, if only because they think he is the one man on Earth capable of appreciating what they have done. But then we get Doctor Doom, the one man in the entire Marvel Universe who thinks Reed is a hack, a fraud, and a complete and utter moron, and is fairly fond of reminding everyone in earshot of his feelings Every. Single. Issue. Also involving Reed: The heroes who have used the name Ant-Man get their powers from mass-shifting "Pym Particles" discovered (and named) by the original Ant-Man, Hank Pym. At one point in the Dark Reign era, in front of both of their respective teams, Reed makes the claim that he knows more about Pym Particles than Pym does. Hank's response? |
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