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Sometimes in fiction, it appears as if family names are absurdly enduring. It might make sense for royal or noble families to have names go on for generations, but it doesn't make as much sense for others, especially because the way surnames are inherited varies by culture and time period. China has had family names since 2000 BC, while in the West, surnames fell out of fashion after the collapse of the Roman Empire, if they didn't just use patronymics to begin with, like many Germanic and Celtic tribes. In England, nobles didn't get surnames until the Norman Conquest in the 11th century and commoners did not get them until the 14th century. Even family names that can be traced back some generations are likely to undergo some alterations or translations somewhere down the line, especially if they immigrate to a country with a different common language. In the United States, immigration officials have long had a habit of changing the names of non-English immigrants to something they can pronounce. Yet, fictional surnames can remain relatively unchanged for hundreds, even thousands of years. Often seen because having the Same Surname Means Related. Compare Lineage Comes from the Father. See also Ancestral Name and King Bob the Nth. Not to be confused with Overly Long Name. Examples |
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In Angels in America, the full name (not just the surname) "Prior Walter" has been passed down as a family name for centuries, including one in the Bayeux Tapestry (11th or 12th century). | |
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In the Chzo Mythos, almost every character who has a last name has an ancestor or descendant (or both) in the form of another character. And in each and every case, these characters all share the same last name, despite being separated by up to five centuries. | |
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In Runaways, Nico's family, the Minoru clan, dates back at least as far as the 15th century; one of her ancestors was part of Agatha Harkness' coven. | |
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The Belgariad: In Polgara the Sorceress, The Ageless title character strikes up an Odd Friendship with a workman named Killane and hires him as her estate manager. His descendants, the Killanesons, work for her for the next 600 years. | |
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The Simpsons: "The Saga Of Carl" reveals Carl's adopted Icelandic family, despite being regular folk and pariahs, have held the surname Carlson for over a thousand years to the point they still get the blame for their ancestors being perceived as cowards who abandoned the defences and allowed Viking Raiders to massacre their kinsfolk. This is made all the more absurd by the fact that Icelandic surnames don't work like other cultures' family names. | |
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Loonatics Unleashed: Ace Bunny finds himself being targeted by one Electro J Fudd, a "sportsman" with cloaking technology. Lexi Bunny is able to trace the Fudd lineage all the way back to the Stone Age when a Fudd died on a hunt after being stepped on by a dinosaur. The Fudd bloodline apparently considers hunting their raison d'etre, they tend to perish on a hunt, but they're smart enough to breed before going out after their quarries. | |
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Night World: The Harman family have kept their surname for thousands of years, dating back to the family's founder, Hellewise, in the Stone Age, though it should be noted that originally their surname was Hearth-Woman (which was originally treated more like an inherited title) and over the centuries it morphed into Harman. The family has been known as the Harmans since the 17th century at the very least. It helps that witches are matrilineal, so surnames are passed from mother to daughter, and female witches are far more common than male witches. Some Harmans who became separated from witch society have different surnames due to adopting patrilineal naming conventions, though they're still considered Harmans. The Redfern family named themselves after their prehistoric founder Red Fern and have retained this name up to the present day (1990s). In their case, this is a bit easier to maintain, considering they're vampires and so can potentially live for centuries. It's also explicitly stated that Hunter Redfern decreed that his daughter Garnet and her descendants would bear his surname to keep the family line going, as he officially had no male heirs (although another of his daughters, Roseclear, followed witch conventions by taking her mother Maeve Harman's surname). |
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Harry Potter: While many old wizarding families in Britain did experience name changes through the centuries (e.g. the Gaunts were direct descendants of Salazar Slytherin but did not carry the Slytherin name), some can trace their surnames back over a thousand years. Justified, since wizards tend to live longer and thus are better able to pass on their family names, and certain wizarding families (usually those associated with Slytherin House) became obsessed with proving their blood purity, so kept strong records. Sirius Black states that the House of Black could trace their name back to the Middle Ages, and many members intermarried to "keep the line pure", not something he was particularly proud of. With his death, the Black family name died out, though their blood lives on in the Tonks and Malfoy families. Armand Malfoy arrived in Britain with William the Conqueror as part of the invading Norman army. The Malfoy Family has since lived on the same plot of land for ten consecutive centuries. The Potter name traces back to the 12th century, when Linfred of Stinchcombe became known as "The Potterer", passing his name to his son, Hardwin Potter. |
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Captain Harlock: In both Arcadia of My Youth and Dimensional Voyage continuity, the Harlock family has stated to be existence since the middle ages, with members depicted in the 19th century and both world wars bearing the same surname, meaning the family name has largely been unchanged since for almost 2,000 years by the time it got to the Pirate Captain that we know. Tochiro's family the Oyamas at least dates back to the 19th century, and implied to be much older than that. | |
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In Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the episode "Bar Association" reveals that O'Brien (a man in the 24th century) has an ancestor from the 19th century named Sean O'Brien. | |
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In between Tales of Symphonia and Tales of Phantasia, the Fujibayashi name has remained unchanged for thousands of years - four thousand according to the most popular Fanon. | |
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The Cooper Clan from the Sly Cooper games are a family of raccoons who were all Karmic Thieves, making their living stealing from less honorable criminal elements. Their family have lived and traveled across every corner of the Earth, detailing their techniques and accomplishments in a book named the Thievius Raccoonus. Their earliest known ancestor who made the book was Slytunkhamen Cooper I, a thief who stole from corrupt noblemen as early as 1350 BC in Ancient Egypt. Thieves in Time would reveal that the Coopers have been thieves as early as 10,000 BC, a Prehistoric raccoon named "Bob" Cooper having been an egg thief for his clan in the Stone Age. | |
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Girl Genius: The House of Heterodyne was established over a thousand years ago by Genghis Ht'rok-din. While the name has evidently changed a bit, most of Agatha's ancestors from what appeared to be the Middle Ages have been referred to by the surname "Heterodyne." | |
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The Back to the Future animated series features a member of the Tannen family as the antagonist of almost every episode, regardless of when in time that episode takes place. Counting only those with the unmodified surname of "Tannen", this extends from Goodman Tannen from 1692 all the way to Ziff Tannen from 2091. | |
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In The Real Ghostbusters, two of Egon's ancestors (one seen in "Egon's Dragon" and the other seen in "If I Were a Witch Man") still have his last name, Spengler, despite being around in the medieval age. | |
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BattleTech: The names of each of the Great Houses that control the Successor States: Davion, Kurita, Steiner, Marik, and Liao, all go back centuries. House Kurita, the family that controls the Draconis Combine, traces its name all the way back to Terra in the 20th century! | |
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Secret Histories: The Drood family are an Ancient Order of Protectors (or Ancient Conspiracy, depending on whom you ask) dating back from the present day to Roman Britain, when they began as a Druid splinter sect. | |
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In Reflections of Eterna, the four Ducal houses (Alva, Oakdell, Epine, Pridd) and most of their vassal clans essentially trace their family names all the way back to the creation of the world by the four creator deities whose mortal representatives they are supposed to be. This is justified in-universe by a magical law dictating that no Duke can die unless there exists a male heir to pass on their title and powers to. According to the same law, when the Dukes start dying without heirs, it spells the impending End of the World as We Know It. | |
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The Elder Scrolls series: The Septims were the ruling dynasty of the Third Tamriellic Empire, lasting for over 400 years. Every single recognized monarch in that span (not counting a select few regents-turned-monarchs) bore the Septim surname. Even real-life dynasties that last half of that span rarely keep the same "surname" (or equivalent, like a house name) as they usually, eventually pass through a female line, causing it to change in most cases. House Tharn is a noble Nibenese family who has been impacting Tamriel for thousands of years. Tharanus Ye Redde-Hand is believed to be the founder of the line in the 1st Era when Cyrodiil was still part of the Ayleid Empire. Later members including Chancellor Abnur Tharn (who plays a role in The Elder Scrolls Online along with numerous other Tharn family members) and Jagar Tharn (Big Bad of Arena), whose death seems to have finally brought the family line to an end. Many of the noble Dunmeri (Dark Elf) families of Morrowind can trace their origins back to the nation's founding under Indoril Nerevar, who was an adopted member (via his marriage to Almalexia) of the still-extant Great House Indoril, some 4000 years prior. In Morrowind itself, you can meet Dunmer NPCs (ranging in plot importance) with the surnames of some of the other Great Houses and other historically significant figures like the Tribunal Temple Saints. |
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In A Song of Ice and Fire, noble family names last a very long time. The Stark name lasts about 8,000 years as of the start of the series. Though, this is according to the Maesters: according to author George R. R. Martin, their recordkeeping isn't nearly as good as it's cracked up to be. History in ASOIAF is prone to exaggeration for various reasons, not least of which is wanting to make the incumbents look better. | |
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Fairy Tail: The name Heartfilia goes back at least four hundred years, as shown with Anna Heartfilia, and has continued on since into the present day of the series, as shown with Anna's present-day descendants, Layla and Lucy Heartfilia. | |
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In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a throwaway gag reveals that there was "an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine" which means that Zaphod Beeblebrox's father was Zaphod Beeblebrox II, his grandfather was Zaphod Beeblebrox III and so on. In Life, the Universe and Everything, in a historical flashback scene set billions of years ago, we meet a Zaphod-like character called Zipo Bibrok 5 x 10^8. | |
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In the first Blackadder series, in the year 1485 Prince Edmund decides to call himself "the Black Adder." In every other iteration of the series the protagonist, a direct descendant of Prince Edmund, is named Edmund Blackadder, even as the family's social status descends; his servant is also always named Baldrick. | |
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The Underworld series has a fairly absurd version of this. Michael Corvin, the Living Macguffin of the first film and secondary character in the others, can trace his family name back millennia to the very first Vampire. The whole reason he's targetted as a potential candidate in the first place is because his last name is similar to that of the first Vampire. | |
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Teen Wolf: The Argent family can supposedly trace their ancestry back to an Argent who hunted werewolves in 1767. | |
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Fruits Basket: The Sohma Clan dates back thousands of years, to the time of the creation of the Eastern Zodiac. Ever since the original "god" of the zodiac died, certain members of the Sohma family have been possessed by the spirits of the 12 zodiac animals, the cat, and the god (though they were not usually all alive at the same time until the generation alive during the series). | |
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Klaus (2019): The town of Smeerensburg houses two families: the Krums and the Ellingboes. These two families have been in a big feud for generations, and even have art from previous generations of their fights. How long have these two family names been fighting? Let's just say their oldest depiction of the feud is from a cave painting. | |
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The surname Kinnison, in the Lensman series goes back to ancient Atlantis (in the form "Kinnexa") and from there forward to 20th-century Earth and then to the undated far future of Kimball Kinnison's time. In the GURPS Lensman setting book it's implied that the name goes all the way to a pre-human plains ape named Kinah. | |
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Artemis Fowl: The Butlers have been, well, butlers to the Fowl family for centuries, the first known one (Virgil Butler) being servant, bodyguard, and cook to Lord Hugo de Foley sometime in the Middle Ages, leading to in-universe speculation that the job title comes from the family name.note In fact, it comes from the Old French boteiller, the man in charge of the bottles of wine. | |
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Arrowverse: The Legends go back to feudal Japan and met the man who forged Tatsu's sword. His family name is also Yamashiro. | |
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In The Apprentice, the Student, and the Charlatan, while ponies usually don't use last names, there are a few exceptions, such as Twilight Sparkle, whose distant ancestor Starlight Sparkle is the matriarch of the Sparkle family and was born close to 1000 years prior to when the fic takes place. In addition, slightly enforced by the various noble unicorn houses that have been around for 1,200+ years, such as the Novus family and the Lulamoon family. Sometimes members of the family do take on the family name as a surname, such as Comet Novus (Starlight Sparkle's father) or Ray Novus (protagonist Nova Shine's father), or most members of the Lulamoon including Trixie, her father Tantalus, and the clan matriarch Lucia. | |
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Star Trek: The Next Generation: In the episode "Journey's End", Captain Picard learns of one of his ancestors from the 17th century, which is about 700 years past. This ancestor was a Spaniard named Javier Maribona Picard, while Captain Picard has long been established as a Frenchman. | |
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