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A person who commits an act of Self-Punishment Over Failure is somebody who, in the face of defeat, decides to discipline themselves, either to make a point or to make amends to somebody... generally themselves. Now, why would somebody do something like that? They all share one thing in common; they all screwed up and decided to take it upon themselves to punish themselves for their mistakes, as opposed to letting others deliver a sentence. However, why they'd do it can vary. For starters, you have your ultra-loyal Mook to whom this trope may evoke the most common examples. While most of them live in fear of displeasing their superiors, these people are so loyal to their bosses that, if they fail, they aren't going to wait for them to have to figure out an apropos punishment. They'll do it themselves, because to them, failure is the ultimate sin. However, other Mooks who do live in fear of their evil overlords may decide it upon themselves to seek personal retribution, but not because they feel it's justified. They'd rather jump off a cliff than head back to Evil HQ and have to endure whatever torturous session the Big Bad has in mind for screw-ups. In a choice between two deaths, they'll take the easier way out. See also The Mob Boss Is Scarier. A sidekick or supporter of a heroic character or team may have accidentally done something wrong. They could've accidentally injured the hero before the fight, leaked vital information to enemy forces, or invoked an allergic reaction by bringing the wrong sandwich. Feeling dejected and despondent, they seek an adequate remedy that, in their minds, will say to them "I'm sorry, so I'm going to teach myself a lesson". Somebody really, really screwed up. Their error in judgment or bad timing allowed an unfortunate circumstance to happen, which may bring forth ruin. If there's not a whole lot they can do to undo their mistake, the only way they can feel that they did something about it is by doing something to themselves. The reaction to what they did can vary from person to person, but rarely does the self-inflicted punishment involve attempting suicide. Usually, the most common examples simply involve the person sentencing themselves to an apropos penalty, such as going into a "prison" of sorts or working extra-hard from then on out. In serious cases, where failure brings forth dire consequences, this can be justified as an understandable response, but there are times where the mistake and the response to making it are very disproportionate. However, do note that these tropes involve a character's response to hindering another... if they decide to punish themselves after failing to achieve their own goal or dream, then it doesn't necessarily count because their mistake only hindered themselves. A common characteristic of people who put Honor Before Reason; in this case reason is learning from your mistakes and moving on, but your overarching sense of moral honor demands you to inflict "retribution" upon yourself. Compare You Have Failed Me (when the boss does the punishing for his subordinates), The Atoner (when it's done over a long term), Martyr Without a Cause (when they would like to sacrifice themselves for petty reasons), and Self-Restraint (which may not be because of failure). Contrast Self-Disposing Villain (when a villain doesn't mean to "punish" themselves for getting defeated) and My Greatest Failure. Supertrope of Yubitsume, Seppuku, and has overlap with Self-Harm. |
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Reverend Dimmesdale in The Scarlet Letter whips himself with a Cat of Nine Tails to punish himself for sinning. | |
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Castle: In one episode, Alexis Castle grounds herself for a week after she jumps a subway turnstile without paying. | |
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In the Disney Animated Canon short cartoon "Plutopia", Pluto dreams that he's being served by a cat butler. When the cat makes a mistake, he demands that Pluto punish him, and when he doesn't, he beats himself up and even tries to shoot himself. | |
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In The Simpsons episode "Homer The Smithers", Waylon Smithers (who had already showcased himself to be absurdly loyal to Mr. Burns) takes his failure to protect Burns from a drunk (but very friendly) Lenny and accidentally not letting Mr. Burns be able to do a Junior Jumble (because he laminated the newspaper) so badly that he tries to drown himself in a water cooler. Mr. Burns then demands Smithers take a vacation, which makes things worse for both of them. | |
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The Redeemer: Malakev, having failed his master Klovis the Redeemer during a Duel to the Death on cranes (he messed up the controls, nearly killing Klovis), immediately asks to look up his appropriate punishment in the Liber Excruciatus once Klovis returns. Klovis denies him this, but promises that it is only a reprieve, and even spares Malakev when an artifact causes Klovis' men to attack him. | |
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The robots Qwerty and Dvorak as well as Helix from Freefall beat themselves with mop handles on page 338 because they tried to delay fulfilling the First Law of Robotics, getting Mr. Kornada to safety, in an attempt to save Florence (an Uplifted Animal, thus not registering as "human" to their hardwired safeguards) from drowning in frigid water. Qwerty even remarks that he'll need his guilt chip overclocked. | |
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In one episode of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Mr. Herriman, in his desperation to hide his carrot addiction, makes up a rule about no standing on rugs as an excuse to send some friends to their room without supper before they catch him. Wilt sees this and, noting he's standing on a rug too, asks Mr. Herriman if he should also go to his room. Mr. Herriman angrily tells him to figure it out himself, resulting in Wilt spending the rest of the episode trying to figure out how to punish himself without breaking any other rule Mr. Herriman pulls out of his tail. | |
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Starship Troopers: After getting a fellow trainee killed, Rico quits the academy... but quickly joins back up when the Bugs drop an asteroid on his hometown. | |
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One Piece: After Luffy and Zoro defeats the corrupt and megalomaniac Marine Captain Morgan, his subordinate Lt. Ripper decides not to capture them but tells them to go away from the island. While they're grateful to our protagonists for doing what they did, because they're still pirates and Ripper intentionally let them go, he then punished himself, along with his subordinates, with no lunch for a week. | |
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The zealous monk Silas from The Da Vinci Code routinely flogs himself and wears a painful cilice each time he pursues a lead to the Holy Grail only to encounter a dead end. Guided by his Teacher (Rector), Silas has killed Jacques Sauniere at the Louvre and the Mother Superior at Saint Sulpice yet came away with no further clue. | |
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In the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog episode, "So Long Sucker", when Scratch and Grounder return to Robotnik's fortress after a failed attempt to catch Sonic, Grounder brings back the pieces of their planes and accidentally drops them on Robotnik's foot. Just to save Robotnik the trouble of doing so, Grounder kicks himself in the butt. When he and Scratch try to explain the situation to Robotnik note that an alien creature from another dimension sucked up Scratch's plane with his Vacuum Mouth, Robotnik doesn't believe it and demands that Grounder keep kicking himself. | |
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My Name Is Earl: The episode "Sweet Johnny" revolved around Earl trying to make amends with an amateur daredevil named Sweet Johnny. Because Sweet Johnny suffered a series of head injuries achieved so Earl could have sex with his girlfriend, he had developed a Groundhog Day-type mental condition. When Earl realized that, by being aware of this condition, Sweet Johnny would rather kill himself, Earl decided to not complete this item and instead circled it as a permanent reminder of what he did to Sweet Johnny. | |
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In Turning Red, Mei starts hitting herself when she thinks she and her friends will fail to raise enough money to reach their goal. | |
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Diamanda Hagan: This is a Running Gag on this show. Diamanda always orders her minions to obey her. When she disagrees she tortures or shoots them, or lets them provoke agony on themselves as a matter of punishment. | |
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Red Dwarf: Played with in the episode "The Beginning" when one of the Simulants fails in his task and the lead bad guy hands him his sword and tells him he knows what to do. The lieutenant who failed then stabs himself with it, only to be told that he was only expected to clean it and to stop jumping to conclusions. Kryten does this a lot, including almost shooting himself over his actions when his guilt was removed in "Polymorph". |
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Vorkosigan Saga: In Winterfair Gifts, Armsman Pym puts himself on extended night duty after he failed to detect the poisoned necklace among Ekaterin's wedding gifts. It also serves as a reward for man who had caught the poisoning attempt, as it means he doesn't have to serve on the night shift for a while. | |
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Yellowbeard: When El Segundo makes a mistake when talking to his Bad Boss El Nebuloso, he begins hitting his head against an object in the hope that El Nebuloso won't kill him. El Nebuloso then asks him what he's doing. | |
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Harry Potter: Dobby, the house elf under the Malfoy family, actually intentionally tells Harry about important things that the latter should know, against the family's orders. He still bashes his head on hard things over doing this, though. It's also revealed that self-punishment is SOP for house elves, with Dobby hurting himself so often that his master doesn't bother keeping track. | |
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Farnese from Berserk practiced self-flagellation whenever she was in a self-loathing mood, which often happened when she did something she felt was a sin. Part of it was also her repressed sexuality and sadomasochism. Thankfully, she gets better about things. | |
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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: In the episode "The Ship", a contingent of Jem'Hadar commit suicide for allowing a Founder to die. | |
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In Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade, the boss of Chapter 7x, Beyard, poisons himself rather than face the Black Fang's wrath for failing to capture Nils and Ninian. | |
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In The Internship, intern Yo-Yo Santos plucks his eyebrows when he fails at something, as his Tiger Mom taught him to do. | |
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Pokémon Colosseum: Trudly and Folly, the first two of Cipher's goons you face in the game, opt to turn themselves into the police rather than face punishment from their boss for failing a second time. | |
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In ''The Secret of Platform 13',' the three nurses Lily, Rose and Violet defy orders by taking the infant Prince through the gump; he winds up getting kidnapped, and he can't be recovered until the gump opens again in nine years. The King and Queen are too nice to punish the nurses, so they move into a cove and punish themselves by eating nothing but rotting food, sleeping on hard rocks, and constantly dipping their body parts in freezing water. When the rescue part finally goes to retrieve the Prince they wait right by the gump with a big box of bananas, desperately waiting for when their punishment can end. | |
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In Saving Mr. Banks, Walt Disney points out to PL Travers that life is a long sentence for her to give herself for failing to stop her dad from drinking himself to death. | |
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Naruto: Occasionally Played for Laughs with Rock Lee, who punishes himself whenever he fails a training goal... typically with even more training. | |
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Futurama: In "The Duh-Vinci Code" Animatronio, a wooden robot built by Leonardo da Vinci, flogs himself after telling the Planet Express crew about a fountain where da Vinci's secrets may be found. | |
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Pokémon Ranger Shadows of Almia: During the final fight against Team Dim Sun on their cargo ship, the player has to fight off waves of grunts while their leader takes on the admin. Each time the player defeats the grunts, they all unanimously decide to jump into the ocean and swim home as punishment. | |
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This is John's fate at the end of Brave New World, punishing himself in isolation (and with whips) for falling into the temptation of sex before eventually hanging himself. | |
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Avengers: Endgame: Thor becomes a recluse, spending his days playing Fortnite and drinking himself into obesity, after failing to prevent Thanos from wiping out half of all life in the universe. | |
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Pokémon: Pokémon Colosseum: Trudly and Folly, the first two of Cipher's goons you face in the game, opt to turn themselves into the police rather than face punishment from their boss for failing a second time. Pokémon Ranger Shadows of Almia: During the final fight against Team Dim Sun on their cargo ship, the player has to fight off waves of grunts while their leader takes on the admin. Each time the player defeats the grunts, they all unanimously decide to jump into the ocean and swim home as punishment. |
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In Episode 21 of Sonic X, a robot launches itself into the distance after failing to stop Sonic. It ends up crashing into Egg Fort II. | |
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RWBY: Scars: After failing to kill Qrow and Ruby for Salem, Tyrian punishes herself by repeatedly smashing her head against the floor to the point where she bleeds. | |
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In My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic, Princess Luna was corrupted by jealousy and tried to plunge the world into eternal night; the opening episodes of the show involve the main cast restoring Luna to her right mind. The season 5 episode "Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?" reveals that Luna felt so much guilt over her villainous past, she created the Tantabus—a monster that inhabits Dream Land and turns all of her dreams into nightmares—solely to punish herself. | |
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In the Doctor Who story "Death to the Daleks", a Dalek self-destructs in guilt because it had let a prisoner escape. | |
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In The Wire when one of Omar's robberies from the Barksdale Organization goes wrong and gets a member of his gang killed, he is deeply remorseful for having insisted on doing the robbery despite signs that the Barksdales were beefing up security due to his prior attacks and does a bit of atonement by putting out a lit cigar in his palm. | |
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Monty Python's Flying Circus: One sketch inverts Unsatisfiable Customer and the personnel of a restaurant all go despairingly berserk and eventually commit suicide because they deem a slightly badly washed fork a colossal failure to their professionalism. | |
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Hunter × Hunter: Deciding to play with his prey as usual, Chimera Ant King threatens the board game champion blind girl Komugi to cut off her arm should she fail to continue winning a match after match against his quickly learning self. She says that the board game is all there is to her, so she'd rather they take her life in such a case. The King concludes his resolve so far was insulting in comparison. As an offer of apology, he punishes himself immediately, by tearing off his own arm with his other hand. | |
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In The Black Cauldron, the Horned King often chokes his toadie Creeper when things go wrong. When Creeper has to tell him that Taran escaped, he chokes himself to save his master the trouble. | |
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In League of Legends, Yasuo was framed for murdering his master Souma and spent years searching for the true killer. When it finally comes to light that Souma died in an accident, the local council seems ready to let bygones be bygones — Yasuo, however, thinks he should have been there to prevent the accident and exiles himself in punishment. | |
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Samurai Sentai Shinkenger: Whenever Ryunosuke would feel that he had failed his lord, he would do something over the top to punish himself as he begged for forgiveness (banging his head on the ground in apology, jumping into a waterfall-styled fountain, etc.) | |
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Katz goes through one of these in Monster Lab (2021) episode 7. After his My God, What Have I Done? moment in the previous episode, he makes himself go through public humiliation. Everyone around him finds this really unnecessary. | |
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On Buffy the Vampire Slayer, a group of vampires called the Three attack Buffy and Angel, who defeat them. Their code of honor insists that they then offer their lives to the Master in penance. He comments that their deaths will give him little pleasure... then kills them anyway, because hey, a little is better than nothing. | |
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In The Apprentice, the Student, and the Charlatan, Nova Shine is prone to this whenever he feels he's made a mistake. At one point, he loses his cool and screams at Twilight for attempting to pry into his private life, but then spends the rest of the afternoon confined to his room rather than sightseeing. In another moment, he and his father fail to make amends and he ends the night by losing his cool with them as well, but then spends the next week in a self-imposed exile in Twilight's basement. | |
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House of Anubis: In the third season, Alfie lies to Amber about her receiving a call from a New York fashion school because he doesn't want her to leave. After breaking down from the guilt, he tells her the truth and she's upset at him for a while. When they meet up in the hallway, she's holding a glass of milk, and he dumps the milk on his head as a self-punishment. | |
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In Explorers of Gor we see a trial conducted by jungle emperor Bila Huruma. | |
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In Alex Rider, Snakehead, Yu's henchman, killed themselves to avoid punishment for failing him. | |
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In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Peak Performance" Data loses at a game, surprising everyone including himself. He relieves himself of duty and hides in his quarters doing one self-diagnostic after another. As he tells Picard, "I have not been able to isolate the problem. I might make a mistake." Picard has to tell him that it's possible to lose without making a mistake and that this is a part of life. | |
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