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There Is No Try
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It's more than a Training Montage — this is hard work. The hero needs to get to a new level of ability, and fast. Thankfully, he has just the hard-nosed master to teach him. But the hero just isn't up to speed: He never quite lands that punch, his chi flow is too far off to channel that spell, and the master is thrashing him in the process. Then the hero stops and the master gives a brief line that lights a fire in the hero: "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!"/"If you aren't good enough, give up and stop wasting my time," and whoosh. He has it. He lands a blow, he casts the lightning bolt, etc. The master quips, "Beginner's luck," or "Not bad," and launches into another attack (usually demonstrating that the Hero still has some way to go). We cut out and the next time we see the Hero, he has mastered the technique. An abbreviated and harsher version of a Rousing Speech, it is often accompanied by a reminder of what the Hero is fighting for, usually (but not always) framed in a way that insults either the Hero or the person/thing he is trying to save. This is done to get the Hero angry enough that he'll temporarily forget whatever mental hang-up is preventing him from getting this trick right. There is some Truth in Television here; often the mental hang-up is self-doubt - if you don't believe you're capable of performing a given act, it's much less likely that you'll be able to do it. When You Snatch the Pebble... This is also closely related to muscle memory and the Centipede's Dilemma; many complex actions are dependent on subconscious rather than conscious action - putting too much concentration into some tasks actually makes them harder to perform; swimming, riding a bicycle, and of course martial arts. The keystone of Training from Hell and The Spartan Way. Related to Hit Me, Dammit! and sometimes Don't Think, Feel. Compare "No More Holding Back" Speech, in which the hero announces this about themselves to others. |
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In The Matrix, Morpheus's "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" line he delivers while sparring with Neo. It's part of a lesson that Neo will learn by the end of the film that, because the Matrix isn't reality, some of its rules can be bent and others can be broken and, as a result, all it really takes to break past his limits is to believe that he can and "just trying" is a mental block that prevents him from doing so. | |
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In Kill Bill Vol. 2, Pai Mei tells Black Mamba, in response to her inability to punch through a thick board at close range, "It is the wood that should fear your hand, not the other way around! No wonder you can't do it; you acquiesce to defeat before you even begin." | |
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Defied in Chapter 8 of This Bites!: | |
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From the Animaniacs episode "Taming of the Screwy". | |
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In a hilarious exchange in the original The Mysterious Benedict Society book, the crabby Constance Contraire snaps this at George "Sticky" Washington when he uses his nervousness as an excuse for the fidgety gestures he makes that she mistakes for gestures that are supposed to indicate test answers in their cheating on the tests created by the Big Bad of the series, Mr. Ledroptha Curtain. | |
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Yuthura Ban of Knights of the Old Republic mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith aren't all that different. | |
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Silent Bob tries to quote this in Chasing Amy, but Jay punches him in the arm before he can complete it. | |
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Avatar: The Last Airbender: Toph's attitude to Aang whilst learning Earthbending is a definite "There is no try" attitude: "If you're not tough enough to stop the rock, then you could at least give it the pleasure of smooshing you instead of jumping out of the way like a jelly-boned wimp!!" This is because each of the bending disciplines requires a particular quality in the bender, in this case stubborn, willful hard-headedness. | |
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Used by Master Shifu in Kung Fu Panda when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he — at times — seems just a half-pint of green dye short of being Yoda. | |
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In Kill Six Billion Demons, trying to use the power of a Key of Kings is doomed to fail: it takes a moment of absolute certainty. Effectively it involves bluffing the Universe into believing that it's wrong and your version of reality is correct, and the Universe has no patience for a Bad Liar. | |
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Mulan has the titular character taking her father's place in the army and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into Taking a Level in Badass. | |
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In A Song of Ice and Fire, Jon Snow tells Sam to be brave. | |
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Discussed in the pilot episode of The West Wing: | |
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Star Wars Rebels: It examines the trope when Kanan tells Ezra "Do or do not, there is no try!" and Ezra retorts that it makes no sense: "How can I do something if I don't try to do it?" Kanan admits he always had trouble with that one, too, but "Master Yoda sure used to say it a lot!" Later they come back to the mental hang-up explanation for the advice. Kanan will not try to teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi, he will teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi. It later gets a Call-Back when Sabine must learn how to use the darksaber and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which is that she doubts she can even wield it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn." |
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Averted in the final episode of season 1 of Andromeda where Dylan demands of his XO Beka Valentine that "All that matters in life is that you try, promise me you'll try." as she confesses she isn't sure if she can make it to the overrun command center of the ship. | |
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It later gets a Call-Back when Sabine must learn how to use the darksaber and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which is that she doubts she can even wield it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn." | |
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In Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry repeatedly tries and fails to summon a corporeal Patronus. He only gains the ability to do so due to a Stable Time Loop; the first time around, he witnesses what he believes to be his father protecting him from Dementors with a corporeal Patronus. When he re-experiences the moment, he realizes his father isn't going to show up to save him, but realizes he was/is there and therefore can. Dumbledore points out that he has thus discovered an element of his father inside himself. And having done it once, he can do it whenever he wants — for the rest of the series, he thus has access to an ability that usually qualifies one as an Auror. | |
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In Chapter 6 of The Book of Boba Fett, Luke Skywalker is training Grogu, an infant of the same species as master Yoda. At one point, Grogu is having trouble using the Force to jump higher, so Luke tells him, "You're trying too hard. Don't try; do." A short time later, Grogu is doing a much better job of Force-jumping to evade low-powered blaster bolts from Luke's training remote. | |
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The Karate Kid: | |
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Zote the Mighty from Hollow Knight incorporates this in his personal philosophy: | |
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