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Underling with an F in PR
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An underling or ally (usually for a Villain with Good Publicity, Hero with Bad Publicity, or other Slave to PR) who does not get that his boss' orders are meant to be carried out with secrecy and subtlety, that the pretense that the boss is good/reformed/having good goals needs to be upheld in front of witnesses, or that just because the underling is a Card-Carrying Villain doesn't mean the boss is. Often prone to Stupid Evil, Euphemism Buster, and Idiotic Partner Confession. Very likely to be the cause of a Beleaguered Boss. Can be played for Cringe Comedy. Often seen in conjunction with Instantly Proven Wrong (where the underling inadvertently contradicts his boss), Number Two for Brains or Overzealous Underling (where this is a result of the character's idiocy/overenthusiasm), Sparing Them the Dirty Work (who will do dirty deeds behind their friend's back in order to support their cause), and Liar Revealed (where the underling's indifference to the need-to-know policy reveals his boss' machinations). The more intelligent villains may point out that At Least I Admit It when told off for not using code. Leave No Witnesses may ensue, depending on how many people heard the incriminating words. Compare From the Mouths of Babes and Innocently Insensitive for characters who can use age as an excuse. Contrast Pragmatic Villainy. Sister Trope to Minion with an F in Evil and Hero with an F in Good where characters fail an important moral aspect of their job. |
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In one issue of Damage Control, an employee of the Latverian embassy has been embezzling and making up the difference by refusing to pay the bills for outside contractors. This was a Retcon of the memetic comic where Doctor Doom skips the country to avoid paying Luke Cage $200. | |
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Brother Cadfael: In "The Rose Rent", Miles' mother starts boasting about her son's generosity in front of the sheriff, going on about how he gave a pair of his old boots away to a man (who was later found dead). Miles desperately tries to stop her, but by then it's too late: Cadfael and Hugh were wondering why the dead man (and presumed culprit) owned boots that didn't fit and whose distinctive prints were found at the site of the first murder, identifying Miles as the story's culprit. | |
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TaleSpin: "The Idol Rich" | |
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The Simpsons: One episode has Mayor Quimby remember he forgot to deliver Chief Wiggum's bribe for the month and give it to him... in front of most of Springfield's citizens. | |
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Spacetrawler: The GOB have caught up to the Stribs when a new fleet arrives to the Strib's aid. Then one of the Stribs casually reveals they were behind a string of theft and vandalism on their new ally's planet (and keeps going), prompting them to abandon the Stribs. | |
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In Luke Cage (2016), the entire conflict of the first season is kicked off when Cottonmouth’s right-hand man Tone disobeys his orders and shoots up Pops’ barber shop in a clumsy effort to kill a target who’s hiding there, despite the fact that said barber shop is supposed to be neutral ground. This earns Cottonmouth’s gang the ire of both Luke Cage and the entire Harlem community, and things generally go massively downhill from there. Even worse, Pops was a close personal friend of Cottonmouth (which is why he respected this rule — Tone knew this all perfectly well and still considered that it made Cottonmouth look weak) and ends up dying in the shootout, while the actual target gets away, making the whole thing pointless. No points for guessing what Cottonmouth does to Tone after hearing about all this. | |
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In Soviet Womble's "Random Arma Bullshittery Part 9, Womble tries to lead the resistance (known as the Badgers or Moltos Independence Liberation Front to everyone but him) to be morally upstanding and focus on liberating the island of Altis from Russian troops; however, the rest of the ZF note Zero Fucks clan constantly undermine him and his hearts and minds initiative by shooting civilians and one another (in the former case this was because of bugs, the latter because someone went AFK in real life), killing dogs, and then executing Russian soldiers who have clearly surrendered and even using suicide bombers. The former leads Womble to believe that the group have crossed the Moral Event Horizon and eventually, the combined antics of everyone else lead him to declare Then Let Me Be Evil and say "fuck it" from a PR standpoint. When the resistance is eventually wiped out, it turns out that Altis and its citizens decide that the Russian occupation is the lesser of two evils, while the rest of the world condemns them as terrorists. | |
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DuckTales (2017): Other than the leader Bradford Buzzard, every single member of FOWL is a bit too proud of being a Card-Carrying Villain, to the point that when they started recruiting people for his Nebulous Evil Organization, said goons refused to be part of it unless "Fiendish" was added to the acronym. | |
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Joueur du Grenier: During the "Project Hospital" LP, the government-sent accountant is giving an interview assuring that everything is going fine. The head of medicine staggers onscreen, still clutching his (emptied) whiskey bottle to confirm it, why it's been a whole 20 minutes since the last patient died! The consultant shoves him away, says to ignore him because he's always drunk, and then she asks if they could not use that last sentence. | |
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The Pentagon Wars: When a member of the House Armed Services Committee asks General Partridge for a bottom-line figure on how much has been spent developing the Bradley Fighting Vehicle to date, Partridge hems and haws and shuffles through the papers on the table, until his lieutenant helpfully picks out the correct paper for him, getting a Death Glare as thanks. | |
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Ultra Fast Pony: In "Batshy Crazy", Apple Bloom accidentally spoils Applejack's attempt to say she wasn't trying to kill Fluttershy. | |
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In Yakuza 0, while Kuze and his underlings are attempting to interrogate Tachibana as to Makoto's whereabouts, Kuze realizes that Tachibana is too tough a nut to crack with torture and orders his right-hand man Yoneda to stop so that they can try something else, figuring that they won't be able to get any information out of Tachibana if he's too dead to talk. Yoneda, however, is too stupid to think of something else, too violent and sadistic to try and has grown too insubordinate after Kuze's failures throughout the game. When Tachibana subtly taunts Yoneda over this, Yoneda snaps and smashes his face with a sledgehammer, which gets Tachibana killed not long after and Yoneda immediately after. Oh, and Kiryu arrives right after this and mops the floor with Kuze after he sees the state Tachibana is in. | |
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In Far Cry 4, an unnamed minion gets stabbed through the head because of his inability to understand that Pagan Min wanted a target to be captured alive, for diplomatic reasons. (Although since Pagan Min is a sadistic asshole 90% of the time, it's a pretty reasonable mistake.) | |
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In Lethal Weapon 2 and Lethal Weapon 3, the first act involves underlings of the Big Bad in each movie doing something foolish that catches the LAPD's attention (in 2, a traffic stop leads to the LAPD discovering a trunk of Kruggerand currency; in 3, underlings attempt and fail an armored truck robbery with guns that were supposedly already taken in as evidence and destroyed by the police). As both main villains are operating as villains with respectable standing — Arjen Rudd as a South African diplomat, Jack Travis as a land developer — neither are pleased and immediately off said underlings for the trouble. | |
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The Patriot (2000): Colonel Tavington, the field commander of the British dragoons, adopts extremely harsh policies towards the Americans, having wounded enemy soldiers gunned down and setting fire to the homes of non-combatants who sheltered them. General Cornwallis berates Tavington for his savagery, calling it unbecoming of an Officer and a Gentleman and reminding him of the King's wishes that there will be a reconciliation with the colonists (their fellow countrymen) after the rebellion is put down. He later rightfully points out that Tavington's cruelty has directly motivated men like Benjamin Martin to take up arms. | |
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League of Super Redundant Heroes: As Mayor Kurgh is talking with a friend from his Galactic Conqueror days and claiming he's still the merciless dictator from back then, his secretary chooses that precise moment to get some paperwork signed. | |
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Cannonball: One of the side-plots of the film is about a Dirty Cop named Terry cheating his way to victory by flying his Ford Bronco from California to New York, picking up his lover on the way and spending some time to make the lie realistic having sex on a motel. Unfortunately for Terry, said lover is a complete airhead that casually blurts out the scheme when Terry cannot find the champagne to celebrate their arrival at the finish line ("I think we left it on the plane!"), getting them disqualified. The last we see of her is her doing a happy "oops!" face in response to Terry's annoyance as they are swarmed by reporters and race officials. | |
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The Boys: Two supers on the Starter Villain team were putting on an appearance at a children's hospital. Or rather, one put on a show with his Shock and Awe powers, the other raided the supply cabinet. As the team's leader put it later when pictures of this (and the rest of the team's "playtime" activities) have been sent to them: | |
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Subverted in Preacher, where a young Starr is tasked with eliminating two journalists who managed to get info on the Grail and are currently being held in a mental hospital. Starr justifies his blowing up the entire hospital by pointing out that killing just the journalists would posthumously prove them Properly Paranoid. | |
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Mega Man X4: The leader of the Repliforce, called General, announced their intent of exiling into space to give themselves a new home, supposedly without violence. As Repliforce is supposed to be an army that answers to the government to deal with Maverick threatsnote and that, prior to this, they were accused of being responsible for the Sky Lagoon incident, this is met with much suspicion, with the Maverick Hunters (our heroes' group, who, until this point, was Repliforce's ally) declaring the whole Repliforce to be Maverick. Then several elite Repliforce members are dispatched to defend themselves from the Hunters... and two of them, Jet Stingray and Storm Owl, would go on to terrorize cities to distract their attention, basically making their "vow of non-violence" moot and justifying their Maverick branding. | |
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Kaamelott: In "La Révolte", Arthur and Léodagan are negotiating with peasants on strike, in a brilliant display of Léodagan's inimitable take on diplomacy. | |
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Game of Thrones: Roose Bolton's hopes of uniting the North by marrying his son Ramsay to Sansa Stark fall apart because Ramsay rapes and abuses Sansa, which only makes the rest of the North, which is intensely loyal to the Stark family, hate the Boltons even more. When he tries to curb his son's behavior, Ramsay murders him and kills off his wife and child. Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane, the Lannisters' Psycho for Hire, never really cares about his actions on the Lannisters' reputation (if anything, that's what he's there for). But during his duel with Oberyn Martell, he gleefully confesses that he was the one who killed Elia Martell's children, raped her, and smashed her head in (as he smashes in Oberyn's head), which would not have done the Lannisters any favors if Oberyn hadn't pulled a Mutual Kill. |
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Hellboy: Hellboy is a Big Red Devil who's part of a secret government agency charged with eliminating supernatural threats before the public gets wind of them. Hellboy apparently didn't get the memo on that last part, because he enjoys having his picture taken with people, much to the director's chagrin. Note that in the comics, his existence is in no way a secret, and in fact nobody ever bats an eye at his appearance. | |
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Asterix: In Asterix in Corsica, the Roman governor is planning to pull a Screw This, I'm Outta Here with the year's taxes (and leaving the garrison to their fates) when the Corsicans inevitably attack. Unfortunately, the one soldier he uses as his co-conspirator for his idiocy also shouts out the plan unprovoked when two other Romans talk to him, leading to the garrison demanding an explanation, rebelling when they find those explanations unconvincing and putting him in the (very) front line against the Corsicans. | |
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In Casablanca, when Louis Renault closes Rick's Cafe early, his underling Émile undermines his stated reason for shutting the establishment down: | |
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Captain SNES: The Game Masta: Robo is prone to sing his mistress' praises in unexpected ways, such as informing people of how foresighted she is by bringing lots of extra kleenexes when going to meet Crono (kept in her bra where she won't lose them). | |
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Soul Music: Ridcully and Stibbons are trying to study the "music with rocks in" phenomenon, which they do by trapping the music in a box. Unfortunately, Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler (the biggest and least successful conman on the Disc) sees them, and Stibbons starts explaining what they're doing "with the undirected excitement of the true discoverer and idiot", despite Ridcully stomping repeatedly on his foot. Sure enough, Dibbler is next seen trying to replicate the wizards' experiment, but since he's using a crappy Garage Band instead of the actual rock players the results are disappointing. | |
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Our Little Adventure: The Souballo Big Bad Duumvirate run a very PR-conscious evil empire and Path of Inspiration. Their senior agent Janice, however, needs a stern reminder not to do things like summon a Demon to kidnap a reluctant minion's loved ones to ensure their cooperation — at least, not where civilians might learn of it. | |
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Inverted in the Sherlock Holmes story "His Last Bow", where von Bork the German spy mentions that his career was nearly ruined when the German chancellor openly mentioned information that could only have been obtained by von Bork. | |
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The Mountain and the Wolf: While it doesn't cause her any public embarrassment (every time the Wolf opens his mouth, just about everyone finds themselves opposing what he says on general principle), the Wolf would likely have become one of these to Daenerys, as evidenced by his proposal for dealing with the Lannister soldiers. Namely, publicly torturing them to death to ensure her name would only be spoken with fear and dread for all time. Daenerys, who very much intends to rule peacefully, shuts him down in no uncertain terms. | |
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Star Trek: The Next Generation: In "The Hunted", Picard and Troi are berating the seemingly benevolent government of Angosia for its shameful treatment of its war veterans - to wit, locking them away in a Gilded Cage and trying its best to forget they exist, without trying to reverse their Super-Soldier conditioning. Prime Minister Nayrok repeats all of his previous platitudes, about how they studied the conditioning thoroughly and concluded that it can never be completely reversed, and how "the people" chose to "resettle" the soldiers, "for the greater good." Then his adjutant, Zayner, adds, "besides, we may need to use them again someday", effectively admitting that the government never seriously tried to reverse the soldiers' conditioning and assumes (rather idiotically) that if called again, the veterans will take up arms on behalf of the society that discarded them. Picard and Troi are starting to tear a strip off the entire Angosian government when the soldiers come storming into the building. | |
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