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Someone who is involved in the production of a work is known for interacting with the fans. For example, they take some time writing a production blog or answering fandom's questions, or regularly appear at conventions. All of a sudden, this person stops doing so because some fans become so thick and heavy (and ugly) that this previously fun activity has become a burden and is no longer enjoyable. The fans complain to and about the creator, hassle them to an unbearable level, constantly ask questions that the creator has already stated they will not be answering, and generally do obnoxious things in the name of their fandom. Complaints often arise from Schedule Slip. For example, it's been pointed out that very few people who make webcomics are making money from their craft; most of them are doing it as a hobby. When things in real life pop up, such as health issues, it's always the webcomic that has to go first. Making matters worse, this can sometimes result in an Internet Counterattack and Complaining About Complaining. In some cases, this tends to induce Artist Disillusionment, ending in a "take that!" statement from the author to the fanbase within the work, sometimes in the presence of a Straw Fan. If it proceeds beyond that, it can ultimately end in the author simply quitting the whole work, and in extreme cases retiring from writing altogether. This is Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things. Related to Dear Negative Reader, Writer Revolt, and Why We Can't Have Nice Things. Common scenarios that can lead to this include Trolling, Flame Wars, Unpleasable Fanbase, Internet Backdraft, Ship-to-Ship Combat, Rule 34 – Creator Reactions, Video Game Perversity Potential, Disproportionate Retribution, Fan Dumb, and Hate Dumb. Be Careful What You Wish For is often invoked. One of the many results of G.I.F.T. Contrast Role-Ending Misdemeanor, for when it's the creators' own misbehavior causing problems and leading to cut privileges. |
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Morgan McGill, who played Lynn Loud Jr. in A Loud House Christmas, experienced harassment on the internet from several The Loud House fans who criticized her for not looking entirely like the character. These Loud House fans made insults and jokes targeted at McGill's appearance and acting skills, threatened to ruin her social media presence, and stated she should've never been chosen for the role of Lynn to begin with. They initially thought McGill was an adult woman playing the character, said she had a large forehead and looked and acted too feminine to portray the tomboyish Lynn, and accused her of not being a real athlete, which was proven false by her mother. In particular, one fan accused her of being racist and homophobic, and even sent obscene artwork of Lynn to McGill, who was 13 years old at the time. They had additionally started a petition and attempted to contact Nickelodeon to get McGill kicked off the movie before it released. Some have speculated the bullying McGill faced was the reason why she did not come back to reprise the role in the movie's spin-off series, The Really Loud House. | |
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For a short time at the beginning of Season 3, Frederator made weekly Adventure Time recaps called "Mathematical" for each episode that would also include themed caller segments. Then, the recap for the episode "What Was Missing" referenced the Marceline/Bubblegum pairing and asked for feedback, causing an explosion from some fans (from Shipping Wars, to general homophobia, to shippers calling one of the show's writers a homophobe because he didn't like the recap, etc.), to the point where the Mathematical channel was deleted from YouTube, along with all the recaps, and Fred Seibert himself posted an apology for all the craziness. The controversy died down in later seasons, when Word of Gay finally confirmed that the duo at least used to be an item. | |
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Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater wrote the song "Never Enough" from the 2004 album Octavarium in response to the more rabid parts of the fan base who kept criticizing and complaining and asking for more and more without realizing that the band's members are humans with lives. Other than that, even though the albums tend to divide the fan base, this hasn't had any real ill effects on their relationship with the fans, though one could assume the "demanding and never happy" type of fan isn't liked much by them. | |
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Ultimate Spider-Man (2012)'s critical reception eventually resulted in the fanbase attacking the creators and Jeph Loeb. After a certain amount of time, Loeb or Marvel ended up taking down Loeb's Facebook page.note Later on, there was speculation that wasn't really Loeb's Facebook page, just something a Ultimate Spidey hater made so other people could have a place to vent, and no one's entirely sure what the real story is. | |
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Ratfist: When political discussions in the Shout Box started turning into flame wars with every new page, Doug TenNapel disabled comments below the pages. However, this led to the creation of an off-site Ratfist forum. | |
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Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics) has seen head writer Ian Flynn having to deal with real-life troubles around the comic by closing them off more than once. Ship-to-Ship Combat, along with Executive Meddling in several areas, is what convinced comic writer Ian Flynn to permanently end any ideas of Sonic and Sally being a couple when the comic was rebooted. Flynn just couldn't take the shipper comments anymore. Ken Penders became the anti-Christ in the fandom's eyes when Penders sued Archie for rights to characters that he created within the comic. The fandom started throwing multiple insults his way, which also didn't go over well with Flynn, since he felt it made everyone look bad. Flynn's official forum now bans somebody if they make any mention of Penders whatsoever because Flynn doesn't want any more trouble with it. This also killed a thread on Flynn's board talking about the Lara-Su Chronicles after fans went into a panic over a number of tweets from Penders which led them to think that Penders was trying to kill the Sonic comic outright. Penders' page on this very wiki has long since been permanently locked as a result. |
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The creator of Be The Seadweller Lowblood posted a poll to determine which character would be shown next, Vriska or Kanaya. Both options were tied for quite a while, then Vriska suddenly took over. The creator decided foul play was involved, took neither popular option, and stopped using polls, declaring this: | |
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Gigi D.G., author of Hiimdaisy and Cucumber Quest, was formerly very interactive on social media but began lessening their online presence around 2015. While part of the reason was due to dealing with personal issues at the time, it also stemmed from their artwork and Tumblr posts being subjected to a lot of pushback and nitpicking from disgruntled followers. | |
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The third movie in The Gamers series, which focuses on geek culture, has a group trying to do this on purpose In-Universe. The plot focuses on a card game where each faction has varying mechanics and win conditions, and the tournament champions get to decide the outcomes of each season's story events. The villains are a group of "Stop Having Fun" Guys exploiting an overpowered and story-breaking deck build to dominate the competitive game. They also deliberately play up every "toxic gamer" stereotype, with an emphasis on blatant misogyny, for the sole purpose of making the community around the game an unpleasant experience. The villains' motive for all of this toxicity is to drive out everybody who enjoys the game for more than its pure mechanics. | |
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After riots broke out in Mexico City during screenings of consecutive Elvis Presley films, the government responded by banning all Elvis films for over a decade. | |
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The production crew for The Simpsons ignore legitimate complaints of Seasonal Rot thanks to picky fans who used to frequent alt.tv.simpsons and nitpick episodes that were actually good.note Comic Book Guy's catchphrase "Worst episode ever" originated from a review of the Season 4 episode "Itchy & Scratchy: The Movie"; in modern times, Season 4 is considered by most fans to either be the beginning or the height of the show's "golden age", depending on who you ask. | |
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My Little Pony: Fighting Is Magic was shut down because someone nominated it for a side-tournament at EVO, the biggest fighting game tournament in the world. Games for side tournaments at EVO are determined by a popularity poll, so people began to vote for Fighting is Magic. Both EVO staff and the game's developers asked the voters to stop nominating it; the EVO crew didn't want the devs to feel pressured to complete the game, while the devs urged fans to show support for Skullgirls instead. In spite of this, the fans kept voting for it. Unfortunately, this caught Hasbro's attention in a way that couldn't be openly overlooked like with other fan projects. Hasbro had to respond with a cease and desist letter in order to protect their trademark, and just like that, the entire project went up in smoke. It would eventually be resurrected and retooled as the original game Them's Fightin' Herds years later, but getting there required some very brazen moves on the fandom's part. | |
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The Tigers had all videotapes of a 1968 concert for NHK destroyed after fangirls went wild and caused several injuries and damage to the arena. | |
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My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (IDW) used to include background cameos of fan-made Original Characters as a little Fandom Nod. This was dropped after Annual 2014 included a cameo by a character created by an artist named Cutosphere, who was infamous among MLP fans for her open hatred of the Brony fandom, which caused a massive fandom meltdown that overshadowed everything else about the issue. | |
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Katey Harvey used to enjoy reading reviews of her matches, saying it allowed her to see her work from the fans' perspectives and what she could do to improve. After one too many posts dissing her weight - even after she'd done interviews detailing her pasts with eating disorders and body image - she stopped reading them for the sake of her mental health. She also took the time to slam one review of her return match that focused entirely on her weight - when the reason she'd been out of the ring was a serious injury that meant she couldn't use her arms for months. | |
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The site shut down user comments for The Dark Knight Rises after people posted death threats to critics who gave the movie a negative review. Rotten Tomatoes would later completely remove the option to comment on reviews altogether. | |
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Calvin and Hobbes: Bill Watterson would occasionally sneak signed copies of comic collections into his local bookshop. He stopped when they started showing up on eBay. Rumor has it that one of the reasons Watterson stopped doing Calvin and Hobbes was because his "fans" effectively stole the trademark for Calvin away from him. You know all of those cutesy "Calvin is praying" or "Calvin is Peeing on Something" stickers you see on the back windows of all those trucks and cars? They weren't authorized by Watterson (who licensed a very small amount of merchandise, and nothing like those stickers). By the time the cartoonist found out about them and moved to stop their production, they'd become so ubiquitous and widespread that a judge told him he'd effectively lost his own trademark because he didn't act fast enough. The Other Wiki states that people selling such things were forced to change the caricature to avoid infringement. Not that it would have changed his anti-consumerism stance on Calvin and Hobbes goods and general strong intent to have the "brand" fade away as much as possible. |
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Rotten Tomatoes: The site shut down user comments for The Dark Knight Rises after people posted death threats to critics who gave the movie a negative review. Rotten Tomatoes would later completely remove the option to comment on reviews altogether. Rotten Tomatoes shut down the "want to see" audience ratings for pre-release films after review-bombing campaigns against Captain Marvel and the ninth Star Wars movie occurred prior to their releases. They implemented a ticket authentication system to ensure that all reviews were made by people who had actually watched the films they're reviewing, to prevent spam and organized hate campaigns against specific movies. It was right around the time that Captain America: Civil War came out that Rotten Tomatoes began clamping down on the ability of users to give reviews, thanks to rumors that Marvel and Disney fans were flooding the site with positive reviews before the film came out in order to make it look better than Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice. |
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Springtrap and Deliah: One of the biggest factors in Quinn's Creator Breakdown and eventual deletion of her account was some fans continually pestering and rushing her to complete the comic's endings, even after saying multiple times that she wanted nothing to do with the comic anymore (admittedly in comment sections entirely unrelated to the comic which could be easily missed and not in an official post). | |
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Todd Kauffman, character designer/director for Total Drama and creator of Sidekick, had a chatbox on his blog which he used to answer questions for his fanbase. Then, despite—or perhaps because of—his warnings not to imitate him or else he would delete the chatbox, a huge ginormous number of impostors went on all at once one day in May 2011. The chatbox was deleted soon after, but he started a new one in early June. | |
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Trevor Strnad posted a rant on Facebook around the release of Everblack that decried the illegal downloading of their albums, stating that the fans weren't sticking it to the man by downloading their music but were instead hurting them, as they were in that spot where they were big enough to live off of their music without having to consider day jobs but were nowhere near big enough to be anything even resembling rich and that they needed physical sales to prove that they were still relevant and retain strong label sales; if album sales fell below expectations, the likelihood that the label would start to consider them "old news" would rise significantly and could jeopardize their chances of continuing to receive support from the label. The responses were predictable; plenty of people (many of them musicians) agreed with both the statement and the sentiment behind it, while others took it upon themselves to shower them with abuse and accuse them of being whiny, entitled rock stars who saw the fans as piggy banks and were just getting mad that they weren't yielding enough. | |
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Despite making a name for herself on social media, Becky Lynch essentially dropped off the face of the Internet after her pregnancy was announced, due in large part to some very vocal portions of her fanbase being a little too obsessed with her expectant baby and her relationship with fiancé Seth Rollins (to the point of making fake Instagram pages for the unborn child, including Photoshopped edits of the baby's ultrasound.) | |
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In the fall of 2013, Beneath the Massacre had their set cut short by the venue in what wound up being their last appearance in New York until 2020 due to many incidents of people crowd-killing, hate-moshing, and generally being inordinately violent in the pit towards non-participants. The band tried to get the venue to let them continue, but the venue declined, declared that the night was over, and told everyone who wasn't a member of the band to leave. Patrons who were there that night said that the crowd-killing was so out of control and people were getting so pissed off that the room felt like a powder keg, and it was likely a matter of minutes before the room erupted into an all-out brawl if the venue hadn't stepped in. | |
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The reason that the development of reliable modding tools for Mario Kart 8 (and Deluxe) is stalled is because of tons of low-effort mods or unreasonable requests that only contribute some cheap YouTube montages to that game's modding community. These are dubbed "meme mods"note Despite its name, this applies to anything the community merely dislikes, like cartoon characters and fad-dependent franchises (like Angry Birds). and are generally loathed by the community, with those who are fine with such mods only accepting them if it's apparent that a lot of work was put into it. | |
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Rich Burlew, the artist and writer of The Order of the Stick, frequently has to contend with the fact that he doesn't perfectly follow the rules of Dungeons & Dragons, since the comic is supposed to have an RPG Mechanics 'Verse based on D&D's 3.5 Edition. Eventually, Burlew got sick of all of the comments on the subject, leading to a forum post where Burlew chastised the Vocal Minority of people who just wouldn't shut up about it, with Burlew saying he cares more about making a visually interesting and entertaining fight scene than properly following each and every rule.invoked | |
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Rotten Tomatoes shut down the "want to see" audience ratings for pre-release films after review-bombing campaigns against Captain Marvel and the ninth Star Wars movie occurred prior to their releases. They implemented a ticket authentication system to ensure that all reviews were made by people who had actually watched the films they're reviewing, to prevent spam and organized hate campaigns against specific movies. | |
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Raise Your Voice Against Liars: Co-writer Naruwitch permanently shelved the FanFiction.Net version of the story due to excessively toxic and homophobic reviews (the author went on record that she is not homosexual, but will not tolerate the reviews posted for the story). When the harassment continued even after it was discontinued, she abandoned the story entirely, handing it off to co-writer BeeTeeDubya14, who also brought in the help of DSpaceZ and BetterOffAlone. It then went further when the team Restricted the version on Archive Of Our Own so that only those with an account can even read the story, as the site otherwise allows anonymous comments. | |
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It was right around the time that Captain America: Civil War came out that Rotten Tomatoes began clamping down on the ability of users to give reviews, thanks to rumors that Marvel and Disney fans were flooding the site with positive reviews before the film came out in order to make it look better than Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice. | |
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It's been rumored the Flind arc of Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic was designed to introduce furry characters, then brutally murder them at the end of the plotline, as a result of constant questions about the strange lack of furry presence in a D&D comic. Outside of the minotaur and the sphynx, there's nobody who'd count as "furry", and it seems like it's going to stay that way. | |
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Marvel Cinematic Universe: After the success of Thor, and even more so with The Avengers, Tom Hiddleston used to have a very good relationship with his fans. He would personally update his Twitter multiple times daily with songs that he liked, poetry, interesting/funny things from fans, and so on; and he had spend quite a bit of time with them when in-person, taking time out to sign every autograph and take every picture requested of him. However, one too many transgressions from "fans" caused Hiddleston to suddenly become notably distant. Such incidents included: camping en masse outside his hotel when shooting on location, constantly linking him to Rule 34 fanart of himself, tricking him into meeting with them by posing as someone he worked with, posting his home address online, and immediately flooding any woman that was photographed alongside him with death threats. His Twitter is now updated perhaps once every other month (if that) with very generic things like promotion for his work in the Marvel Cinematic Universe note The team in charge of the MCU is well known to want their talent to be on social media. or involving his role as an ambassador for UNICEF, and it's been a while since anybody's managed to get a picture with him. | |
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When the Dungeons & Dragons Fourth Edition Player's Handbook 2 was released in 2009, a digital copy was bought and distributed for piracy within minutes of the product going live. This was the last straw for Wizards of the Coast, who responded by discontinuing any and all .pdf format sales of their books. They also sued eight people involved in the distribution. Ironically, every single D&D book release was still scanned and pirated, just with being a small delay. It wasn't until 2013 when WOTC returned to the .pdf market, though the company is still reluctant to release major books for 5th edition D&D in this format. | |
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Disturbed used to answer fan questions on message boards, spending the most of their time being badgered to prove who they were. The sad thing is, this was started by David Draiman with the other band members saying it wasn't worth trying till they eventually warmed up to the idea at David's urging. With the relationship soured, they'll probably never do this again. | |
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Randy Blythe of Lamb of God explains why he had to deactivate his Twitter account. It came down heavily in part to this. | |
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Avatar: The Last Airbender creators Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko make very few con appearances because their fans were stalking them and harassing the voice actors about fan shipping. They reject any invitation to a convention other than the San Diego Comic-Con due to its high security. | |
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The Ren & Stimpy Show creator John Kricfalusi used to host regular AIM chats with the fandom, and post Q&A sessions on certain Ren and Stimpy message boards. At first, the chats and question sessions went well. However, after a large amount of "heckling" and being drowned out with constant clamoring requests of "Do you like this show? What do you think of this show? What's your opinion on anime?", etc. (Mostly done for the purpose of troll-baiting his opinionated statements against animated shows he doesn't like) and moderation not stepping in when people got out of hand, he dropped this method of communication altogether. He later created his own self-moderated blog to talk about various subjects (such as drawing or animated character theories), and he does participate in comment discussions there. However, he has made far fewer overt statements about cartoons he does not like, focusing more of his attention on simply praising the inspirations he does admire. | |
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Due to the rowdy and often hostile behavior of the Steven Universe fandom, this occurred somewhat frequently among the show's staff: Though he would eventually bring it back, writer Matt Burnett deleted his Tumblr account after several fans heckled him regarding the retcon of Pearl's sudden dislike for human food. A parody account on Tumblr titled "didyouknowstevenuniverse" would troll fans by posting clickbait-esque facts about the show, such as saying Pearl and Lapis would be killed off. The blog runner briefly shut down the account when some fans thought the "facts" were real and began harassing the show runners, before later reopening it and adding a disclaimer that the posts were meant to be jokes. After the episode "Keystone Motel" aired, several fans found out there was an actual motel with the same name and began posting fake reviews based on events from the episode, such as saying there was no water in the pool in addition to scorch marks at the bottom. While somewhat funny, Matt Burnett had to step in and tell fans to stop, since too many of those reviews would risk giving the motel a bad reputation. Writer and storyboarder Jesse Zuke (formerly Lauren Zuke prior to coming out as nonbinary) had to delete their Twitter account following an episode that showed two characters, Lapis and Peridot, living together. Fans said that Zuke was favoring a relationship between the two, as opposed to the Amethyst and Peridot pairing that was supposedly hinted at in a previous episode (an interaction between them had appeared to fans to contain "sexual tension"). Eventually, it escalated to fans accusing Zuke of queerbaitingnote hinting at LGBT+ representation to court queer viewers but never following up on it, despite the fact that Zuke's bisexual and the relationship as it appeared in the show was between two female characters anyway. Zuke then deleted their Twitter account, saying, "I decided I don't want to be accessible to thousands of people who think because I work on a TV show that I owe them myself all the time." The entire incident also resulted in Peridot's Twitter account posting far less frequently, since Zuke was the one running it. |
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Area 11, while still fairly involved with their fandoms, used to be even more involved through the official Facebook fan group, being members of it (for admin purposes) and joining in with the general fun, posting memes and so on. This changed when a fan somehow worked out the email address of Sparkles*, spammed him and then did something which resulted in the hashtag "Kill Colin" being spread note fans in the group are not keen to elaborate on what precisely that was supposed to mean. The band are no longer members of the group, but do still lurk there, so it's not as total a loss as it could have been. | |
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Gunnerkrigg Court: Tom Siddell used to occasionally make GC-themed desktop wallpaper for the fans.note Sometimes a larger version of a panel from the latest page, and sometimes completely new art. When some fans complained that he wasn't also making widescreen versions of these pictures, he decided to stop altogether. Siddell also used to respond to reader's queries on a "Questions for Tom" thread on the Gunnerkrigg Court forum. He stopped, not so much because people asked the same questions, but rather because other readers would jump in and answer the questions themselves, making it a "Questions for Whoever Feels Like Answering" thread. He took his question-answering to a formspring account. However, when fans began repeatedly asking questions on topics he had stated he wasn't going to answer, and then getting combative over his not answering, Siddell deleted his formspring account. Fortunately, some months later, Siddell decided to give it another shot and reopened his formspring account. |
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Brooke McEldowney had Comics.com turn off the commenting feature for his 9 Chickweed Lane comic after a few Trolls made persistent homophobic and misogynistic remarks while another posted links to 9CL strips with pornographic dialogue substituted for the original. | |
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S. E. Case, the creator/artist of Cheap Thrills, experienced Artist Disillusionment while she was in the middle of making the fourth chapter. The ensuing Schedule Slip resulted in a part of her readership making repeated and unrealistic demands for further updates to the comic that bordered on harassment. This caused S. E. to call them out on her FurAffinity page shortly before she abruptly stopped the strip altogether that December, confirming the cancellation on her Tumblr blog six months later. Five years later, S. E. re-emerged with a Continuity Reboot of the comic as Rigsby, WI, this time with the characters all in human form. | |
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Chainsaw Man had an oft-profane and politically incorrect Brazilian scanlation become popular before the manga was officially released. Seeing the crass version of "THE FUTURE IS BEST!"note "O futuro é pica!", pica being a slang for penis that is also used to denote something awesome, akin to "the shit" not appear in the dub led to fans of this version harrassing Guilherme Briggs, whose character said that line, and ultimately making him quit social media and leave the character for good. Note that he wasn't even involved in the translation (or even directed the voices) of the show, he just voiced the character and that's it. | |
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Due to a violation of an embargo on reviews of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo being published that was in effect before an established date, David Fincher has stated that none of his future films will be screened for critics. | |
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Following the disruption of a Hyperdimension Neptunia the Animation screening by a psycho with a knife attacking Rie Tanaka, Chiyomaru Shikura, the president of 5pb., issued this statement: | |
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A number of people who rip models from licensed games with Frozen characters have concerns over pornographic works and the "Elsanna" fanship between protagonists Elsa and Anna (which is highly controversial, as it concerns an incestuous relationship between two sisters). As a result, these model rippers either put their rips under a restrictive license which prevents people from using the models in M-rated works or they keep the models entirely to themselves. While said models aren't even theirs in the first place and it's still possible for them to get a cease-and-desist, the restrictions are put in place largely because they don't want to risk attracting any more unnecessary attention from Disney's legal team with raunchy Frozen edits. Given the film's somewhat smeared reputation due to the rise of illicit depictions of children's characters, this is understandable. | |
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Star vs. the Forces of Evil: During a panel at the Gallery Nucleus, some of the show's staff aired a sneak peek of the new opening sequence for Season 3, and warned the audience they would likely never show sneak peeks again if any of them recorded it and leaked it to the Internet. Much to their disappointment, someone did it anyway. However, sneak peeks of future episodes were still done at San Diego Comic-Con due to the show's status as a flagship series. | |
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A (now former) member of the Persona modding community, pioziomgames, made much of his mod creations and tools private, only allowing other people to republish them if he trusted them. Even then, not all apply. The reason for this is pioziomgames' hate of the fandom. This naturally frustrated other modders that were looking forward to his tools, like his (closed-source) model editor. | |
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Bob Skir of Beast Machines also had a closer relationship with the fans than most official entities, but the on-line community was so harsh towards the series he co-wrote, that he decided to break up. He didn't attend the fan conference he and his partner Marty Isenberg were invited to either (nor did Marty). Thus, they are both still among them. | |
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Massive criticism towards Velma forced Warner Bros. to copyright claim posts on Twitter about the show, and turn off comments on its trailer on YouTube. | |
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The early 2011 comments shutdown at the blog The Source at DCUniverse was the direct result of a flame war about who was faster: Superman or The Flash. | |
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Ciro Nieli, the man behind the 2012 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot, signed up on a high-profile message board on the subject. After only a few posts, he announced that he was leaving and never coming back, due to being outright bullied over tiny perceived foibles over and over, including one user that posted many times, complaining about the same exact thing in each post leading to dozens of messages in between his visits about the same thing, from the same person. | |
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This is the reason why there are no more forums for VG Cats. In addition to endless requests for games to be parodied or mocked, the series' notorious Schedule Slip was a frequent target of forum posters, resulting in a ton of Flame Wars. Eventually, the creators and mods got sick of dealing with it all, and just permanently shut down the forum.invoked | |
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Charli XCX's third studio album — years after her previous one, and coming off the hype of a series of EPs and mixtapes — was in production since 2015 and expected to be released sometime around 2018... and then in late 2017, her Google Drive was hacked, and over 200 files worth of demos and release-ready songs (as well as promotional artwork) came frolicking out into the internet. While the leaks were widely loved by fans, Charli was devastated, and when combined with label interference as a result of it, she decided to reboot the album into Charli, which would be released in 2019 containing all-new songs. Despite retaining pride in the leaked material, she's actively refused to release them legitimately as she considers them irreparably "tainted", with only a handful of songs managing to evade this principle. | |
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Michelle Czajkowski, creator of Ava's Demon, was driven off of tumblr by the abuse they received after stating that there were no asexual characters in the comic and refusing aggressive demands to include some. | |
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In 2015, CBS and Paramount gave a lawsuit towards the creators of Prelude to Axanar when it was revealed that the creators were actually profiting from the Star Trek name in the process of making the follow-up movie Star Trek: Axanar. The shoddy defense at first was "they didn't know what they were doing was wrong...because we had no Guidelines" So CBS and Paramount set up specific guidelines for making fan movies, effectively and permanently killing fan continuations and feature-length movies, and ending a decades long silent Gentleman's Agreement between CBS and fan-films. The guidelines state that all creators, actors and all other participants must genuinely and deliberately consist only of amateurs, can't be compensated for their services, and can't be currently and/or previously employed in any Star Trek media or any of CBS nor Paramount Pictures’ licensees. Crowdfunding is allowed... but it has a hard cap of $50000. The fan-films must also be up to 15 minutes long or in two parts that, when combined, cannot go beyond half an hour, with no follow-ups or remakes whatsoever, even if Star Trek is removed in the follow up or remake to try and cheat that rule. One known casualty is Star Trek: Renegades, which ended up stripping itself of all of its Star Trek connections and going fully original. | |
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For a very long time, the Foo Fighters refused to play "Big Me" live, because whenever they did, they'd be pelted with Mentos, because its music video spoofed Mentos ads. They started playing it live again after their "Foozer" tour alongside Weezer in 2005-06, as Weezer covered it with great acclaim. | |
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While he permits it to be written, the author of Tales of the Questor makes it a deliberate policy to never, ever read fanfics of his comics, because he knows he would go mad from the desire to dive in and re-edit... | |
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An in-universe example from El Goonish Shive: Susan opted to disable comments on the video review show that she makes with Elliot after repeated comments mocking her for being "lanky", to the point where some people even told her to eat a sandwich. | |
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Tess Stone, the mind behind Hanna Is Not a Boy's Name, revealed a spoiler on the true nature of Ples Tibenoch to a select few fans, confident that they wouldn't go and spread it around the fandom. Three guesses what happened there. | |
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Shaman King is considered one of the better dubs that 4Kids Entertainment produced, since the series wasn't Bowdlerised as much as other works that 4Kids had under their umbrella. However, since Shaman King revolves around death and features heavy violence, it also attracted ire from Moral Guardians at the time. Coupled with having a bad timeslot and the company's negative reputation, the show flopped in the United States, and is ultimately what led 4Kids to continue their usual censorship and localization practices for future dubs.note Their next dub was One Piece, which is infamous among anime fans as one of the most Macekred English dubs in anime history due to a combination of the moral guardians and the fact that they were forced to make it to retain the rights to Ojamajo Doremi. Hilariously enough, this show has been released in Latin America by Televix Entertainment prior to 4Kids in USA, and both companies coincidentally used to work together in sublicensing shows in Latin America. In contrast, Shaman King aired uncut in LA directly from the Japanese masters, however they still managed to broadcast other titles later under 4Kids with the same Bowdlerization as ever. | |
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My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic: John de Lancie had to shut down production on bonus features for his Bronycon documentary due to rampant piracy. After the disaster that was Las Pegasus Unicon, which saw the convention run out of money to pay the guests followed by the "Las Pegassist" crowd-funding effort's check bouncing, both Tara Strong and Nicole Oliver opted out of attending conventions for at least a year. Voice actors now only try to attend the larger cons due to other commitments. In Strong's case, this sentiment later changed. She was later seen at a couple of smaller cons due to several fans openly offering to serve as protectors, but she works on a strict cash-only basis for autographs. My Little Pony: Fighting Is Magic was shut down because someone nominated it for a side-tournament at EVO, the biggest fighting game tournament in the world. Games for side tournaments at EVO are determined by a popularity poll, so people began to vote for Fighting is Magic. Both EVO staff and the game's developers asked the voters to stop nominating it; the EVO crew didn't want the devs to feel pressured to complete the game, while the devs urged fans to show support for Skullgirls instead. In spite of this, the fans kept voting for it. Unfortunately, this caught Hasbro's attention in a way that couldn't be openly overlooked like with other fan projects. Hasbro had to respond with a cease and desist letter in order to protect their trademark, and just like that, the entire project went up in smoke. It would eventually be resurrected and retooled as the original game Them's Fightin' Herds years later, but getting there required some very brazen moves on the fandom's part. The Grand Finale of the show was accidentally aired early outside of the show's home country. After it happened, director Big Jim Miller started receiving death threats from people who were mad about the leaks (which he had no control over), or who were mad about details that came from the episodes (in particular the reveal that Grogar wasn’t real). This would lead to Miller putting his Twitter account on private, with several bronies starting the hashtag #ThankYouJim on Twitter in an effort to show that the rabid fans were a Vocal Minority. |
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The Little Foreigner: On January 25, 2021, the fic's original SpaceBattles.com thread was closed by a moderator after several people wrote posts insulting each other and the author and telling them to kill themselves. Fortunately, the fic's Sufficient Velocity.com thread is still open, and on February 2nd of that same year, the thread was reopened. | |
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The Grand Finale of the show was accidentally aired early outside of the show's home country. After it happened, director Big Jim Miller started receiving death threats from people who were mad about the leaks (which he had no control over), or who were mad about details that came from the episodes (in particular the reveal that Grogar wasn’t real). This would lead to Miller putting his Twitter account on private, with several bronies starting the hashtag #ThankYouJim on Twitter in an effort to show that the rabid fans were a Vocal Minority. | |
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Ghostbusters (2016): Following the racist and sexist remarks included among a torrent of hate against the film before it was even released, director Paul Feig and a number of others in charge of the film responded by impartially censoring any criticism of the film, even legitimate critiques, as bigoted. This resulted in the controversy surrounding the film becoming even worse. Leslie Jones, who portrayed Patti, was driven off Twitter when trolls intentionally bombarded her with terribly racist tweets just for appearing in the movie, and then later hacking her website and leaking nude photos of herself. |
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Fred Perry went on a short hiatus after a rabid fan pushed an old lady and her grandson out of the way and threw down some cheesecake when he tried to deny he "took commissions for that sort of thing". | |
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The late Derrick J. Wyatt, for a time, stopped accepting questions about his work on Ben 10: Omniverse or any questions on his take of his Ben 10 universe, and closed his DeviantArt account, due to a mix of redundant questions, angry hate mail from fans of Alien Force and Ultimate Alien, and the stressful forced rushing of production towards the end of Omniverse. All of which made him swear off Ben 10 forever, to the point that he temporarily closed all questions, though were later reopened on his request that they have nothing to do with Ben 10. He also swore off the Teen Titans questions and said that he would never watch the show because he was heavily blamed for Teen Titans Go!, despite having nothing to do with the writing or production of the show. Eventually, Wyatt finally began answering questions about Ben 10 again (if only because Duncan Rouleau of Man of Action Studios has a similar Q&A blog), with the fandom being cautious not to aggravate him again, and due to the reboot now being the new focus of the fanbase, which caused the fans to be more forgiving and not as hateful towards Omniverse as before, Wyatt is more forgiving in return. | |
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The South Park episode "Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus" received so many angry replies from fans incensed that it aired as an April Fools' joke instead of "Cartman's Mom Is Still a Dirty Slut", the episode that supposedly reveals the identity of Cartman's father, that Comedy Central rarely reran it until 2016. | |
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This was the reason why RPG World never got an ending as Ian Jones-Quartey was tired of fans complaining about the comic. Compounded with him being busy with his animation career and dwindling interest to draw the comic, Jones-Quartey abandoned it and never looked back. Despite this, he was content to leave the site running until it became a haven for an exceptionally rabid collective of trolls. When the trolls retaliated at Jones-Quartey's later input to the site, he took down the archive entirely. Thankfully, the OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes episode "A Hero's Fate" gave fans a proper closure to the webcomic. | |
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Karen Traviss of Star Wars Legends fame/infamy had been involved with the fandom, but contention arose over her supposed establishment of the Grand Army of the Republic consisting at a mere three million clones for a galactic scale conflict. Some people took issue with it, which is reasonable, but those that did almost exclusively blamed her, which isn't. The result was a massive multi-board Flame War that included both sides insulting each other, hate sites, Dear Negative Reader posts, coining of derogatory nicknames for their detractors, accusations of favoritism/nepotism/sexual bribery, and ultimately culminated when one nutjob made a machinima video of himself brutally murdering a mock Traviss and her fans over his concern for the numbers (and disingenuously called it "satire"), which made the StarWars.com board moderators nuke everything associated with the... "discussion". What makes this entire debacle even worse is that if either side bothered to simply read the Attack of the Clones novelization, some of the bickering could have been avoided since (at the very least) her detractors wouldn't have put so much time and energy going after someone who, by their own admission, doesn't have the authority to make the changes they wanted. | |
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The Family Guy episode "Turban Cowboy" features one scene where Peter drunkenly runs over runners of the Boston Marathon, and another where Peter unknowingly sets off a bomb when he attempts to use a cell phone. The episode aired just a month before the April 2013 bombing at the real Boston Marathon. Fox responded by pulling the episode from everywhere it could legally be viewed from in the U.S.; a video remix, which made it look like Peter bombed the marathon, only made things worse. To put this in perspective, the show's notoriously irreverent creator, Seth MacFarlane, was utterly disgusted by the video remix. | |
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Shotaro Tokunou, the creator of New Game!, has stated that he will no longer respond to fan letters because some fans have resold fancy paper boards that he had specially drawn and sent after receiving letters. Those paper boards were being raffled around at online auctions. | |
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Mika Yamamori, the creator of Daytime Shooting Star, used to respond to fans on Twitter but has since then been reluctant to reply to any comments unless she feels they are important to her readers. The problem mainly came from two incidents: the first problem was when she discovered that the reason why she had so many international fans respond to her was because of unofficial translations when a fan commented on Chapter 69 before Margaret, the magazine that published Daytime Shooting Star, went on sale in Japan. The second problem was the massive Ship-to-Ship Combat as the series was concluding, where international fans kept leaving very heated comments on her Twitter account. The pressure got to the point where she had to put it on private until the final chapter was published. Today, she rarely responds to her fans, especially if the comments are not in Japanese. | |
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A rare in-universe example comes from Transmetropolitan, where main character and gonzo journalist Spider Jerusalem mentions that the final straw that led him to abandon his career, lock himself into a heavily fortified cabin in the wilderness and spend five years "... taking pot shots at fans and paparazzi, eating what I kill and bombing the unwary." was when a group of fans wrestled him to the ground in the street in an attempt to mug him for one of his internal organs. One wonders if this was self-referential on Warren Ellis' part. | |
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The author of The Good Hunter removed the fanfic from FanFiction.Net to avoid drama that involved Kenkou Cross (the author of the Monster Girl Encyclopedia series) and MGE-related fanfics. As of now, it has been archived onto Fichub and uploaded to Archive of Our Own under the username SixtyThreeNineteen. | |
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The cast and crew of Voltron: Legendary Defender have had plenty of encounters with the show's fanbase, and not all of them were positive ones: Ironically for a show with very little romance, Legendary Defender is infamous for having one of the largest and most toxic Ship-to-Ship Combat in any modern cartoon series. A lot of it stemmed from the inconsistencies regarding the ages of the main cast and the fact that one of the main characters (Shiro) is gay, resulting in a lot of accusations of endorsing or engaging in pedophilia and homophobia from all across the board. When the staff members and voice actors stepped in to try and assuage the ship war, fans began redirecting their frustration towards them. Josh Keaton (the voice of Shiro) now no longer responds to any questions or concerns regarding shipping and co-showrunner Lauren Montgomery stopped sharing ship-centric artwork on her social media. The voice cast began lessening their appearances and/or started enforcing strict rules at fan events due to repeated harassment or to prevent potential harassment. In one infamous case, Jeremy Shada (the voice of Lance) nearly got in legal trouble when a fan secretly recorded him revealing spoilers about the show during ECCC 2018. Studio Mir, the animation studio behind the series, stopped giving out tours to the public when one fan attempted to blackmail them to make Klance canon using photographs taken by another separate fan. |
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Yoshiki of X Japan was chased off the Internet for much of 2009 and half of 2010 in a massive flare of Internet Jerk and Internet Counterattack that originally started when he cancelled a planned concert in Paris. He came back to the Internet in 2010 on Facebook and Twitter, and is currently back but is still occasionally bothered by trolls. | |
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Durandall once deleted Kyon: Big Damn Hero from FanFiction.Net, then left that site altogether, because of criticism (not of his work, but of himself) that he received from some users of the site. He later realized that this was excessive, apologized, and reuploaded the fic. | |
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A trend called "Gentleminions" arose during the theatrical run of Minions: The Rise of Gru, where large groups of young men would go to see the movie dressed in formal attire. Unfortunately, due to some of the groups engaging in rowdy behavior that disturbed other moviegoers (such as starting mosh pits or throwing bananas at the screen), many theaters started turning away formally dressed people from their screenings of the film. | |
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Transformers: Designer Aaron Archer used to be a regular poster on a message board, with his own section where he would answer questions. Then someone had to go moan at Hasbro, allegedly because Archer was unprofessional and rude, almost certainly actually because the complainer was jealous that another board had such a major draw. Hasbro promptly declared that it was over. Bob Skir of Beast Machines also had a closer relationship with the fans than most official entities, but the on-line community was so harsh towards the series he co-wrote, that he decided to break up. He didn't attend the fan conference he and his partner Marty Isenberg were invited to either (nor did Marty). Thus, they are both still among them. |
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In the fanmade system PokéRole, a Pokémon based tabletop RPG, the reason why users can't post Fakemon (fan-made Pokémon) to the official Discord is that a former dev had a public meltdown over not having his Fakemon be included in the base system. The devs won't stop people from making Fakemon, but refuse to have it shared on their Discord. | |
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Rumor has it that one of the reasons Watterson stopped doing Calvin and Hobbes was because his "fans" effectively stole the trademark for Calvin away from him. You know all of those cutesy "Calvin is praying" or "Calvin is Peeing on Something" stickers you see on the back windows of all those trucks and cars? They weren't authorized by Watterson (who licensed a very small amount of merchandise, and nothing like those stickers). By the time the cartoonist found out about them and moved to stop their production, they'd become so ubiquitous and widespread that a judge told him he'd effectively lost his own trademark because he didn't act fast enough. The Other Wiki states that people selling such things were forced to change the caricature to avoid infringement. Not that it would have changed his anti-consumerism stance on Calvin and Hobbes goods and general strong intent to have the "brand" fade away as much as possible. | |
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