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Sometimes it isn't enough for a villain to be evil. They have to prove their evilness by eschewing all that is good and embracing all that is bad. They'll eat foods that disgust the good guys and laugh at funerals. They may also carry this over to their speech, making sure to only use negative phrases when most people would use a positive one, and correcting themselves if they "slip" ("Oh, goody! I mean, 'baddy.'"). They'll kick puppies for sport, and describe things as repulsive like it's a good thing. They often describe sunny weather as depressing, and vomit at the very sight of rainbows. They may also be prone to do things purely For the Evulz, even petty things like throwing some kids' bikes on the roof. They may be plagued by a Minion with an F in Evil. Makes Your Head A-Splode if you think about it too much. It is a common trait of Card-Carrying Villains. It can also be why Evil Cannot Comprehend Good. If they simply loathe all positive attributes without necessarily emphasizing their negative ones, they're probably more of a believer in Virtue Is Weakness. Quite likely to appear in a Perspective Flip if we see things from the villain's point of view. They can also become a Complete Monster if this trope is taken too seriously in-universe. See Nightmare Fetishist for the non-evil version. May be seen as an exaggerated Subtrope of Deliberate Values Dissonance. Compare Above Good and Evil and What Is Evil?. Villains whose strong point is not logic will sometimes use both tropes to justify this. See also Bizarro Universe, Mirror Universe, Blue-and-Orange Morality, and Naughty Is Good. Not to be confused with So Bad, It's Good. noreallife Examples |
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Preacher (2016): Hell's administration enforces this by punishing any of the damned who show kindness or help others. They have a standard to uphold. | |
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Terrible Writing Advice discusses tropes and cliches to provide terrible writing advice as good advice in a sarcastic fashion. The narrator frequently says that any deep and meaningful discussions should be avoided at all costs, especially if it gets in the way of the Romantic Plot Tumor. | |
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Megamind had the title character raised in jail, at one point being taught to cheer burglars and boo policemen. He also has a conversation with Minion that ran on this theme, ending with "You don't know what's good for bad!" | |
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During his 2003-'04 heel run, Kane condemned his half-brother, The Undertaker, for becoming the "American Bad Ass" (a patriotic biker) and thus turning his back on his satanic past. Kane claimed that in his family, ceasing to be a "monster" was an unforgivable sin. | |
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Demons in the novel Eric. On the first occurrence, a footnote notes that "Demons have a distorted sense of values." | |
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Season 5 of Samurai Jack has the Cult of Aku, a deranged group of Aku worshippers who see him as a benevolent creator god and see Jack as an evil force of destruction. The Daughters of Aku are likewise raised and trained on this very premise, and are brainwashed to believe that killing Jack will save the world. Interestingly, Aku himself holds no such delusions about who he is: he understands perfectly that he's an evil bastard, and simply shamelessly revels in it. The brainwashing actually leaves the door open for Ashi's Heel–Face Turn, as she does genuinely want to do good, but the lies and abuse she's endured have left her very skewed on how to do that. Once she sees Jack's kindness and how happy the people and creatures he's helped are, it isn't hard for her to join Jack's side. | |
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What Did I Do to Deserve This, My Lord? runs on this trope in several ways. For instance, according to the Almanac, the bait left by Heroes to kill monsters isn't dosed with poison as one would expect, but just very good, tasty meat, that kills monsters due to not being poisonous. The small percentage of bait that actually heals them is poisoned. If a Pure variation of a monster appears in your dungeon, it is a problem, because they are too nice and have lost their "ill will", making them as weak as the base monster and removing their apparent desire to breed. This is bad enough on its own, but Pure monsters are a warning for far more serious dungeon problems - they only appear when you've screwed up your ecosystem so badly that a species has been forced to adapt to resist its most common cause of death and keeps dying of that cause anyway. | |
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Demons in Disgaea do this; it's mostly played for comedy. Disgaea demon logic can be an odd thing. Since bad is good and good is bad, they might act good in order to be bad. For example, in Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice, the setting is a school where slackers, cheaters and bullies are considered honor students, while students who actually attend class and do volunteer work are considered delinquents. There are demons that purposely try to be "delinquents" because they think it makes them look badass. Disgaea 2 had the Dark Court system, where the player's characters can receive Subpoenas for various activities (like "Playing Too Much", "Being Too Rich" or simply getting too strong). Upon entering the court gate, the character(s) will be slapped with a Felony Count, which gives benefits such as increased EXP gain, lower shop prices and better sell prices. However, there are downsides: sending a character with an active Felony Count up to battle the Dark Sun in the Dark World will instead empower all enemies on the map, and Adell having an active count in addition to other modifiers can land the player a bad ending. |
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The Addams Family are a lesser version of this. Specifically, they find disgusting things lovely, and torture as good family fun. But they are very polite and try not to comment on those weirdos with the sickening love of flowers. This had the side effect of making them very progressive for the time, since they didn't judge anybody for anything. The plot of one episode of the original series revolves around Pugsley suddenly becoming a 'problem child' in the eyes of his parents, by joining the Boy Scouts, playing baseball and adopting a stray puppy. | |
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On Freaktown, the inhabitants of the title town consider being called things like "cute" and "beautiful" to be insults, while words like "ugly" and "gross" are seen as compliments. | |
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X-Men: Call one of the Spineless Ones a fat, lazy slob, and he will take it as a compliment, and their ruler, Mojo, is the worst, or to his species, best. A longtime foe of the X-Men, he's an absurd parody of corporate greed, ruling a race that's proud of being couch potatoes. | |
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The Dimension of Pain demons from Sluggy Freelance are like this big time. They can't stand the scent of flowers, consider relaxing massages a form of torture, and will refuse to use anything they deem too "efficient and functional." | |
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Almost every Care Bears villain. (Which is why the Care-Bear Stare is so effective.) Beastly even quotes the trope name as a catchphrase, albeit because he needs to remind himself of it since he's not very good at his job. | |
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The New Scooby-Doo Mysteries episode "A Halloween Hassle in Dracula's Castle" had Igor turn out to have disguised himself as the Ghost of Van Helsing because he was sick of being constantly ordered to clean up the other monsters' messes and wanted to scare the other monsters away so he could be free to make as many messes in the castle as he wanted without having to clean them up. The other monsters are not only not mad about Igor's underhandedness but are even impressed by it, with Igor cheerfully stating how "unhappy" he is to hear his friends praise how mean he was being to them. | |
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There are hints of this in the vermin's behaviour in Redwall, though it doesn't entirely define them and some of them have expressed good traits (though that really just throws their horrible behaviour into sharp relief). A Villain Song in Triss expresses the GIB&BIG view specifically: | |
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The Hidden: When the evil parasite inspects a warehouse storing guns and stolen antiques belonging to some criminal he just murdered, he turns on a record player which proceeds to play a folksy jingle. After listening to it for a few seconds he angrily destroys the record; his evil taste in music apparently doesn't extend beyond death metal. | |
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Robotomy: The entire culture on Insanus is that being violent and destructive is normal, if not outright encouraged. Blastus painting a picture of his mom and him hugging is treated by his mother as filthy pornography, and the robots with faulty psycho-chips are Insanus' equivalent to special-ed children. They send those kids on a rocket into one of Insanus' suns because they're not violent enough by the planet's standards. | |
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Justice League of America: The Mirror Universe of the Crime Syndicate of Amerika works this way. People talk about "Moloch below" and swear by The Antichrist in casual conversation. It's more like "Bad is Good and Good is Weak," though. | |
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Underworld: The theme park in The Baskervilles where "bad is good and good is bad." For instance, if you put on a play and everyone cheers at the end, it was a bad play. Also, when children living in Underworld rebel they do it by playing with harmless toys, picking flowers, etc. | |
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The Dark Ones from Murderess, whose traditional blessing is, ‘May the streams of blood guide you, and may ye aye find the dark in every sunny day,’ seem to qualify. | |
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Looney Tunes: Witch Hazel is "deathly afraid" of getting pretty as she grows older and is always asking her magic mirror who's the ugliest one of all. Much to her horror, a potion turns her into a gorgeous redhead. | |
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Mortal Kombat 11: A pre-match dialogue between Jade and Mileena suggests the latter has this view. | |
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In Dr. Zitbag's Transylvania Pet Shop, there were several occasions that played with the idea of monsters regarding good things as bad and vice versa. In "Food Glorious Pet Food", Dr. Zitbag's octopus botches a batch of his pet food and unleashes a sweet-smelling scent through all of Transylvania, resulting in Officer Deadbeat wanting to turn Zitbag in for health code violations. "Double Trouble" has Dr. Zitbag attempt to woo the Exorsisters by infesting their weed garden with harmless plants so they'll ask him to get rid of the harmless plants with his Moletergeist. The episode "Transylvania Excess" deals with everyone in Transylvania being terrorized by a bunch of cute and saccharine animals. |
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The Blue Meanies in Yellow Submarine replace positive words with their negative counterparts whenever speaking positively about something. For example, instead of saying "yes" when their armies are ready to invade, the Chief Blue Meanie reminds Max to say "no" instead. | |
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Dungeon Keeper basks in this trope, adopting "It's good to be bad" as it's motto and having your counselor sneer and loathe at the abominably cheerful and benevolent settlements your army is about to ravage and then glorify the desolation and despair it inflicted. | |
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Several villains in Captain Planet and the Planeteers outright thrive in polluted conditions and suffer in healthy ones. This is mainly empowered ones like Duke Nukem (who enjoys radiation) and Captain Pollution (who is empowered by all kinds of pollution, but is hurt by pure elements), but Hoggish Greedly's sidekick (who is an ordinary human) complains at one point that "all this fresh air is giving [him] a headache". | |
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Rick and Morty: "Amortycan Grickfitti" features a clan that behave this way to an extreme that annoys everyone around them. They end up befriending Jerry because they find his obnoxious nature charming, only for them to turn on each other when he overhears them talking trash about him in the bathroom. | |
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From the Austin Powers soundtrack, "Dr Evil" by They Might Be Giants: | |
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In Freefall, Sam Starfall is a member of a scavenger species that considers theft, deceit and underhanded methods to be admirable qualities, similar to how humans admire physical strength. When Florence mentions she will have to hack into the comment servers in order to save the robot population from a "bug fix" that will deprive them of free will, he asks her to alter his criminal records... and add a few particularly interesting thefts of his the police has failed to notice. Also, Florence is coming to the horrifying realization that underhanded tactics, outright criminal acts and the support of some very selfish, rotten people (like Sam) is the only way to save the day, because the moral and legal methods are blocked by the real villains, forcing her to say Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right!. | |
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Meg in Supernatural revels in being a demon and serving Lucifer in earlier seasons and expresses a distaste for her turn toward helping the heroes in later seasons. She also finds a dash of the dark side an attractive quality in Castiel, the angel. | |
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Evil Jim, Earthworm Jim's evil clone claims to love the taste of orange juice after you've brushed your teeth, which Jim hates. Not played completely straight, since when Jim tells him that since Jim hates losing, Evil Jim must revel in it, but Evil Jim says that he shouldn't be so literal. | |
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Most villains from Power Rangers. The most prominent are the early ones, like Rita and Lord Zedd. For evilness' sake, her last name is Repulsa! Then there's her brother, Rito Revolto, and their dad, Master Vile. Just in case you forgot what side they're on. Villains were even addressed as "Your Evilness" for the first several seasons. |
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In Kushiel's Legacy, The Mahrkagir's motto is "Ill thoughts, ill words, ill deeds", in homage to the evil Anti-God he worships. Ironically, it bars him from his own god's priesthood, since prospective members have to eat a loved one's heart and he doesn't even know what love is. In a further irony, as soon as he falls in love with Phèdre for that exact purpose, she kills him. | |
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Oscar the Grouch from Sesame Street is like this at times, hating anything nice. (Except children, like most of the cast.) He once got into a bit of a logical conundrum when he realized being mad made him happy, and being happy made him mad, "Which makes me happy, which makes me mad, which makes me happy, which makes me mad..." He even had a song about this: |
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Discworld: Demons in the novel Eric. On the first occurrence, a footnote notes that "Demons have a distorted sense of values." While dwarfs for the most don't fit in here (good is good and bad is bad to dwarfs — it's some of the expressions of that that are reversed), they do 'put darkness for light, and light for darkness' (and low as good). They are, after all, cave-dwelling miners — digging lower into the mountain is a good thing, and light blinds you (so being enlightened is a bad thing). |
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In Blue Core, The Syndicate known as the Anell House consider themselves the good guys because they exploit the propensity of Void Affinity users, especially their family sub-branch, the Ells, towards addictive behaviors by addicting them to drugs and other vile things and then using that addiction to force them to become assassins, and see Sienne Ell, who managed to escape this fate and lead a good and upright life, Happily Married, as an evil they most capture or kill, and to make it worse, they see all the countries of the continent of Orn as unspeakably vile for daring to cast out all their agents, refusing to heed their whims, because they repeatedly sent assassins after the royal families in those countries in the first place, for little reason, or no reason at all. | |
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Final Fantasy XIV has a mild example in the world of the First, which was 9/10ths oblierated by a Flood of Light (which was accidentally caused by some would-be heros) and the remaining areas have been plagued by Endless Daytime, and swarms of angelic-looking murderous Sin-Eaters for more than 100 years since. The inhaibtants therefore revere darkness and the night sky (the 'sunless sea') and are a little jaded with traditional concepts of virtue, and often use 'sinner' as a friendly term of address. | |
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Kingdom Adventure: While giving his spying report to Zordock, Dagger says that the protagonists are up to something good...and then says "And that's bad, right?" Zordock agrees. | |
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In one episode of The Muppet Show, they performed "The Devil Went Down to Georgia". The Muppet Devil took offense when Kermit told him his performance was "pretty good". | |
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Absolutely Anything: The Council it turns out define "good" as dealing death and destruction, so they judge Neil guilty as he doesn't use his powers for that (i.e. he's "evil"). | |
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Chez Geek has a Goth expansion, where the victory points are renamed from "Slack" to the thematic "Gloom." Hence, increasing your Gloom is good, and decreasing it is bad. | |
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The Magic Key: The trolls from “Troll Talk� have this approach to manners- what would be polite to a human is rude to a troll, and vice versa. | |
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In Homestuck, Caliborn claims that spewing abuse at Jane is the cherub equivalent of complimenting her, since cherubs don't have positive emotions. She's not convinced. It also turns out he's unable to even type positive words. If he tries to, it quickly becomes random button mashing. In Alternian culture, what humans associate with scariness and menace is considered normal and pleasant, and vice versa. Thus, a soothing white and lavender pastel color scheme is something only a very Goth troll would have in their room, and staying up during the day is freaky. Much of this simply has to do with the fact that trolls are nocturnal and the planet's sun is intensely harmful, so they associate darkness with (relative) safety. | |
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Guardians of the Galaxy: In Guardians of the Galaxy (2020), Rapskullion, the evil villain of the planet Muscular and sworn enemy of the heroic prince Noblor, declares that to him, bad is good and good is bad. Which is, therefore, ironically, good in his eyes. | |
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Rolie Polie Olie has Gloomius Maximus, who wants to suck the fun out of everything (he even has a Villain Song about it in The Movie). | |
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The Order of the Stick: Sabine and Nale in this strip have the standard All Girls Want Bad Boys vs. Single Woman Seeks Good Man conversation, but entirely flipped. In spite of the nature of the trope, Loki and his followers seem to be a non-evil version. (Loki appears to be Chaotic Neutral.) Loki's priestess Hilgya explains that Loki offers a loophole for dwarves who don't want to live by the Lawful Good standards of honour. Dwarves who didn't live with honour go to a bad afterlife with Hel, but for those following Loki's teachings, being what's normally called dishonourable counts as being honourable by following the teachings of their deity. |
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Literally inverted in ECW, where the heels were considered good and the faces were considered bad. | |
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In the Wizards of Waverly Place episode "Don't Rain on Justin's Parade—Earth," Alex Russo becomes increasingly distressed at the realization that she is becoming good under the tutelage of Mr. Laritate. She is pleased and relieved at the end of the episode when he calls her an evil genius. | |
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Red Dwarf's episode "Backwards" sees our heroes stuck in the Parallel Universe where things are happening, you guessed it, backwards. When Lister and Cat finally find Rimmer and Kryten they want to stay for this very reason. | |
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Played perfectly straight in Overlord series. The main voice of this is Gnarl. | |
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Yet Another Fantasy Gamer Comic: A mom is called to school by the worried schoolteacher; her son does his homework, is nice to his classmates and cleans up after himself. The woman (a gnoll, by the way) is really worried until he snarls at her that he hates her and wishes she was dead. Then she realizes that there is some hope for her son! | |
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Blip: An incubus nearly dies of a purifying infection, and his heart transplant needs to be corrupted before it starts functioning. | |
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In the climactic scene of The Devil's Advocate, Satan tries to convince his bastard son that God is a hypocrite and a tyrant for giving humans free will and then punishing them when they make the inevitable wrong moral choices — while Satan, on the other hand, is the true loving father-figure who accepts humans despite all their flaws and is willing to give them whatever they wish as long as they are loyal to him. | |
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A variation occurs in the second The Archives Of Anthropos book, Gaal the Conqueror, when Pan forces Eleanor to dance and sing in her sleep, "Lunacy, lunacy, madness is sanity, truth is profanity . . ." | |
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The villains for the PJ Sparkles pilot cartoon are probably the most distilled version of this trope. The Cloak and his wife Betty revel in the dreary Twinkle Town, enjoy spreading filth, and get a headache and indigestion, respectively, when exposed to sunlight. So they're not pleased to find that PJ has suddenly made Twinkle Town match its name. | |
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Dungeons & Dragons: In fifth edition, hags "perceive ugliness as beauty, and vice versa." They revel in having a hideous appearance and sometimes go out of their way "improve" upon it by picking at sores, wearing skins and bones as decoration, and rubbing refuse and dirt into their hair and clothing. | |
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Sodom and Gomorrah: Queen Bera tells Lot that "What you call sin, I call virtue" when he asks her to repent her sins. | |
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Harry Potter: Hermione gives this a try in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, saying cheerfully, "Horrible morning, isn't it?" when she goes into Borgin & Burkes posing as the kind of Dark witch who would be their typical customer. A mild example with the Marauders' Map, which activates with the passcode "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good," the "no good" generally being pranks and mischief (rather than anything truly evil), which the Marauders considered high achievements, but of course are considered bad from a disciplinarian perspective, since they often violated school rules. Played more darkly in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, however, when it appears that their definition of mischief also extended somewhat into bullying, which is objectively bad, plus a "prank" which nearly led to the death of another student. They did rather grow up after that, though. |
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Rosario Vampire: Brightest Darkness: The original, evil Falla Cii was firmly convinced that, as a power-hungry, bloodthirsty warmonger, she deserved to be the queen more than Luna, whom she outright criticized and viewed as unworthy to have the crown for being a Nice Girl. In Act IV chapter 11, after successfully tricking Luna into restoring her magic, Falla openly complains about how much "nice crap" she had to do just to get Luna to cooperate. | |
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Dan and Mab's Furry Adventures: Demons have a weird sort of Blue-and-Orange Morality that sits on the borderline between this and Might Makes Right. So destroying things and killing/eating people because you feel like it is good, but restraining yourself and caring what others thing about is bad.note Founding and improving a town for centuries just so you can raze it yourself for street cred when it goes corrupt is definitely bad, and yes all the demon nobles totally do it. A recurring example is that Kria is disappointed that her daughter does everything she can to act with Being sensibilities, meaning she doesn't go on rampages and break the furniture: |
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On Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, when Keiko and Jake were possessed by Pah-Wraiths they described them as beings of pure hate. After Gul Dukat was possessed by a Pah-Wraith, he said he could feel its love for him and the Bajoran people. | |
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In the Book of Isaiah in The Bible, the prophet has some pretty harsh condemnation for those who do this sort of thing, making this Older Than Feudalism: A few verses later, as an example of this sort of immorality, he also pronounces woe on corrupt judges "who acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice for the innocent". |
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In The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!, King Koopa likes being called "Your repulsiveness," and similar lines, and whenever Princess Toadstool insults him he invariably responds with "Thank you." | |
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In The Transformers: The Movie, the Quintesson court sends defendants plummeting to certain death in the Sharkticon tank by finding them "innocent". | |
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Batman: The Joker occasionally has this mentality. He values enemies more than friends, and by his twisted logic he and Batman are bordering on being secret lovers. He also thinks that laughter is the appropriate reaction to all the misery and suffering in the world. Sure, that's insane, and he's happy to admit that. After all, in a world like this, insanity is the only rational recourse open to us. In Judgement on Gotham, The Scarecrow is able to incapacitate Judge Death by injecting him with a formula that causes him to hallucinate his greatest fears — fluffy bunnies, pink ponies, and other cute things. |
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In one episode of Super Mario World (1991), King Koopa tells his kids that they shouldn't go to school, because they might learn good citizenship, and he wants them to grow up to be 'sneaky, two-faced, cheating illiterates'. The kids then exploit this by telling him that he forgot lying, which he agrees is an excellent trait. Then they go to school despite promising not to, as they were just told that lying is good. | |
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Dr. Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb. In one episode, he tries to keep a news clip of him saving a kitty from being seen by his colleagues to protect his evil reputation, for just one example. In another one, Doof was out of ideas so he decided to create a good-idea-inator to give him a good idea but, because of the trope, he instead made a bad-idea-inator. A worried-sounding Doof, on the non-appearance of his nemesis Perry the Platypus: |
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El Tigre: The Adventures of Manny Rivera: Pumo Loco, Manny’s grandfather, is a Card-Carrying Villain who encourages his grandson to do bad things. In the episode “Pumo Licito�, when Manny overhears his parents talking about moving Grandpapi out of the house due to him being a bad influence on Manny, he and Frida steal his disguise and pose as him doing good deeds so his parents won’t think he’s bad after all. When word gets out, Pumo Loco is so ashamed and humiliated by his new “heroic� reputation that he decides to leave Miracle City altogether. Later, when he finds out that Manny and Frida went behind his back and that his son and daughter-in-law were thinking of kicking him out, he is actually proud of them for being so deceitful. | |
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Magica de Spell seems to hold these beliefs, particularly when allied with Mad Madam Mim (which does have a precedent in her own movie). | |
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Mad Madam Mim in The Sword in the Stone. According to her Villain Song, she "take(s) delight in the gruesome and grim", and she tries to kill Arthur because Merlin "sees something good in you...and in my book that's bad!" After she loses the Wizard's Duel and is laid up sick, Merlin recommends lots of rest and sunshine, and Mim complains, "I hate horrible, wholesome sunshine!" | |
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Used in an episode of Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz, with the wicked witch of the west calling her niece, Wilhelmina, a good girl, "and by good I mean bad." This causes one of the flying monkeys to get confused when she asks them to follow Wilhelmina and make sure she's up to no good. | |
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Earth X: X-51 attempts a True Neutral version of this after Uatu the Watcher convinces him to pretend to delete his human programming. Surprisingly, Uatu doesn't see through him. | |
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In the concept album of Jekyll & Hyde, Hyde invokes this, nearly verbatim, in "The World Has Gone Insane". "Bad is good and good is bad! Sacred is profane, and it's wiser to be mad - in a world that's gone insane!" Also invoked in the entire song "Good n' Evil", which features lyrics like "It's easier by far from the way that things are, to remain good and evil, then try to be evil and good". |
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Final Fantasy: Unlimited: Earl Tyrant, representing chaos, is dismissive of the Comodeen's wish for order. As far as he's concerned, the only order that really matters is the one he wants. | |
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In Super Mario Bros., Bowser Koopa has some minor traits of this, with at least one example present in the spin-off Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, where he loves Thwomp Volcano for being "hot, stinky, dangerous, and one humongous fire hazard". King Koopa (his cartoon alter-ego) invoked this trope a lot more often, however. Liking Thwomp Volcano could just be a case of narcissism though. | |
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Homestar Runner: Strong Sad pulls this off, but swapping happy and depressed rather than good and evil. In the Halloween cartoon "Happy Hallow-Day", being outdoors for several hours on a sunny day (against his will) starts to cheer him up—which just serves to scare him. In "A Folky Tale", Strong Sad's folk-hero alter ego Saddy Dumpington seems to think that miserable and depressing things (like admitting that he made a squirrel's relatives into soup) are great news, while silly things (like a weird snake) are miserable and depressing. |
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Likewise, The Secret of Platform 13 features Odge, a hag. While her mother and sister are all properly ugly, warty creatures, she looks distressingly normal, save for heterochromia, one blue tooth and a bump on her foot which will hopefully grow into an extra toe one of these days. Like all hags, she can cast minor curses, but she has to struggle with it a bit. | |
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Girl Genius: Castle Heterodyne, having the possible personality of evil, bloodthirsty, and megalomaniacal Faustus Heterodyne, acts in this manner. The Heterodynes and their servants, the Jaegermonsters, subscribe to a variant of this. A "good" Heterodyne is the sort who goes around committing as many mad acts of science as possible, therefore when Europhrasia Heterodyne betrayed her lover the Storm King, and destroyed the Shining Coalition in the act, ruining Europa's last chance for peace for over two-hundred years, this made her "good" in the eyes of the Jaegers, and whatever family of hers happened to be alive at the time. The Jaegers, after all, do consider the evil Heterodynes to be "de fun vuns." |
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The Rolling Stones "Sympathy for the Devil": | |
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The witches in Macbeth: "Fair is foul and foul is fair." | |
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Murky from Rainbow Brite, who hates colorful things and wants the world to be gray. | |
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Superman: Superman's enemy Bizarro does this, but not on purpose. It's pathological for him. Bizarro (usually, it depends on the writer) carries this over into his speech patterns, which makes it tricky for readers to figure out what he actually means. (It's apparently hard for the writers, too, which is why not all of them bother.) Bizarrogirl is also backwards, although she's a little smarter than most, however, and as fighting alongside Supergirl she learns the difference between saving lives and ending them. |
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Danganronpa: Monokuma/ Junko Enoshima, the Mastermind, has this perspective towards hope and despair, and takes it to the point of Blue-and-Orange Morality; everything that causes and spreads despair is a moral good, while everything that spreads hope and combats despair is bad because it's boring. In fact, she is positively ecstatic to lose at the very end, relishing the chance to experience the despair of such an intricate plan failing at the very end, while Makoto's refusal to give in is met with fear and disgust. As revealed in the second game and anime, thanks to her manipulating and brainwashing them, she's made Class 77-B to think just like her and transforms them into the terrorist organization, the Ultimate Despair. Nagito Komaeda is a borderline example. He loves hope and hates despair, but because of his Unluckily Lucky nature, he tends to think that tragedies are good, because his entire life has been a merry-go-round of catastrophe leading into good fortune (i.e. he gets kidnapped and finds a winning lottery ticket in the bag his kidnappers put him in), so he thinks that experiencing despair will just lead to more hope after the despair has been overcome. |
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Kim Possible: In the series finale, Drakken and Shego team up with Kim and Ron against an alien invasion: In another episode, Kim gets Shego's help by threatening to publicize her past life as a superhero, which would ruin her evil reputation. |
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The Doomsday Crisis Line: Choosing the "good options" will lose you money, while picking the bad options gains you money. | |
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Time Bandits: | |
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Requiem Vampire Knight: In the over-the-top Crapsack World that is the dark world of Résurrecion, the more cruel a person was in life, the better rewarded they are in the death, while the innocents or those who committed minor sins suffer the worst. The protagonist used to be a Nazi soldier who was cruel enough to become a vampire - the ruling elite of Résurrecion composed of people like Dracula, Attila the Hun, Caligula and Nero to name a few. Yet, because he still retained a sense of honor and chivalry, he is regarded as a degenerate freak by his fellows. | |
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The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron, Boy Genius: When Evil Jimmy returns, he makes an entire Evil Twin planet, whose society is based around evil. While infiltrating it, Jimmy gets into trouble every time he does something good. Saving a woman from being hit by a car results in that woman calling the police on him, and politely thanking Evil Ms. Fowl is treated as though he'd just said a swear word at her. | |
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Prince Phobos in W.I.T.C.H. (2004) despises bright, happy things, and so naturally commissions artists to make the bleakest, dreariest pictures they can. It is mentioned, however, that the reason he hates bright, happy things is because he thinks it will inspire his followers to have hope, and consequently rebel against him- so he has a reason for going in for dreariness and misery, albeit a despicable one. | |
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A lot of quick-fire gags in the dialogue in Helluva Boss are based on this — for example, Blitzo telling Loona in a proud voice that her human disguise "look[s] awful," or Stolas formally "cursing" the Harvest Moon Festival. | |
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The Grims, the villains of The 7D, are a pair of card-carrying fairy-tale villains who hate goodness. Hildy is disgusted at having to do good deeds while posing as a good witch in "Hildy the Good", and both Hildy and Grim are horrified when they experience "joy" during the Christmas Episode "Jollybells". | |
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The Shushu of Wakfu run on this being an Always Chaotic Evil demonic race that lives for destruction. Words like "despicable" are considered compliments and cute things are abhorred. | |
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In A Song of Ice and Fire, both Sandor Clegane (the Hound) and Jaime Lannister speak and behave this way, but find it less rewarding over time. | |
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Played for laughs in The Good Place, where Bad Place demons use insults instead of compliments in addition to aiming to do bad as effectively as possible. To them, "You suck donkey butts" is incredible praise. One of the webisodes from "The Selection" has Shawn's underlings welcome him back to a meeting by farting, much to his gratitude. Also deconstructed with Bad Janet; Janets are anthropomorphic databases of all the knowledge in the universe, and while Good Janets are incredibly helpful, Bad Janets never provide any help, instead choosing to insult their users. | |
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A one-off joke in Good Omens, where the demon Crowley 'blesses' under his breath when frustrated. Crowley also receives ''deprecations" rather than commendations from Below, for an evil job done well. |
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Moral Orel: This is basically what's wrong with Clay; he's psychologically wired to believe that pain is a form of love, which leads him to abuse his family and subordinates while believing he's showing how much he loves (and hates) them, making lying easier than breathing. This manages to ruin most of the town when he shoots his own son (the protagonist) in the leg and uses his mayoral connections to bail himself out. Getting karmic punishment still hurts him but it's clear that he needs the suffering for comfort. | |
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In Nine Goblins, goblin compliments work this way. They'll only complain about something if they really appreciate it. For things they actually don't like, they go for a Stiff Upper Lip. | |
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According to some legends, Sodom and Gomorrah had laws punishing citizens who did good deeds. Jewish Midrash, for instance, describes how Sodom executed people for giving to the poor. | |
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In Bad Magic, a followup to the Secret Series, when Clay says a bad word when he is very young that he picked up from somewhere, Max-Ernest explains to him that it's a bad word and Clay wonders why it's bad. Max-Ernest explains that bad words are words that hurt people's feelings. From that day, however, they develop a sort of code, in which between them, "bad word" means "magic word." | |
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In Darths & Droids, General Hux (Ben) tells Kylo Ren (Sally) that he has good news and bad news, and Ren replies "Give me the bad news first. I like bad news. I like everything bad." Hux then snarks that given the plan, she must like bad ideas too. | |
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The Little Witch: The finale reveals the belief of the big witches that a good witch does bad things with magic. | |
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The Spear: A latter-day Nazi says Hitler to have deplored "the Christian good" as oppositional to his mystical racial supremacism. | |
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In Touhou Project there's Seija Kijin. As an amanojaku (which doubles as a yokai and Japanese slang for a really contrary person), her nature is based entirely on the reverse of everyone else, to the point where she can even reverse the screen. She likes what others hate and hates what others like. Nobody likes her, and she likes it that way. | |
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The Yugopotamians from The Fairly OddParents! have this not only culturally, but as part of their biology: for example, chocolate is poisonous to them, but manure is a delicacy. They tend to be more like Anti-Villains, however, only attacking Earth when they at least think they have a good reason. (For example, Halloween, when all the candy made them think Earth was planning an attack.) Well, that and the fact that Timmy accidentally created a planet-destroying super weapon with his wish to make Halloween costumes real. | |
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Boris and Natasha in Rocky and Bullwinkle take acknowledgment of their dishonesty and general evilness by others as flattery, as will Fearless Leader, whereas words like "purity", "innocence", and "honor" are considered on par with harsh swearing. In one episode, Natasha is giving Boris CPR (or something) while reciting, "Out goes the good air; in comes the bad." In another, the following exchange takes place: |
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For pirates in Knights of All Realms ugly is considered attractive and beauty is considered weak. Patchface the Pirate yearns for the heart of the Pirate Hage, the ugliest and most wicked woman on the seas and is ashamed of his natural good looks, hiding them with his mask to protect his reputation. | |
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In Cowa!, vampire Paifu and ghost José play tag and José creeps Paifu out by pretending to be an angel, full of love and peace. In this world however Humans Are the Real Monsters and many monsters are Card-Carrying Villains at best. | |
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The Amazing World of Gumball: In "The Wicked", Mrs. Robinson sings her own version of "My Favourite Things" from The Sound of Music; among the things she lists as "giving her delight" are toothaches, heartburn, the smell of garbage, and basically everything else that makes other people miserable. | |
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Played with in The Screwtape Letters. Demons explicitly say that some "good" qualities—like courage, devotion to a goal or cause, et cetera—are actually necessary for great evil. Containing no good would not be being evil, it would be not existing. This fact really, really annoys them, though. As Screwtape puts it, "Nothing is naturally on our side!" Every good quality has to be twisted and perverted before it's useful to them. That said, they still think of "over" as lesser and "under" as greater (Screwtape is an Undersecretary in the Lowerarchy, and they respect and serve Our Father Below). | |
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In the Rainbow Magic series, the goblins have this mindset, treating the smell of pond scum as perfume and being terrified of puppies and other cute animals. | |
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The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Mr. Hyde. '...sorrow is like fine wine....' | |
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Lexi from A.N.T. Farm | |
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Khrima of Adventurers! challenges when his henchman plays "Nice" in a game of Scrabble, attempting to pronounce the word as "nee-kay". | |
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Evil Diva: The title character's parents sometimes slip up and tell her to be good — that is, obedient to their directions to be bad. | |
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Spider-Man: Normie Osborn, Harry Osborn's son, and grandson of Norman Osborn, had always thought Spider-Man was evil and sided with the Goblins in their attack against the web-slinger. This came to an end in Go Down Swinging after Normie witnesses Norman attempting to murder his mom, Liz Allan, and Spidey saved her. Horrified at his grandfather's actions and realizing he was becoming a monster, too, he began to attack his grandfather until Harry slammed a Goblin Glider into Norman's chest. | |
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Bizarrogirl is also backwards, although she's a little smarter than most, however, and as fighting alongside Supergirl she learns the difference between saving lives and ending them. | |
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The Infinity Train is a system, it gradually turns out, dedicated to helping individuals with their own problems. It is also, at the time the series takes place, really not working like it should, and in the time it's been more distressingly out of touch than it already was, a passenger (properly met in season two) started actively going the other way and swaying impressionable young people to driving their quantifiable "number" up by actively turning to what the train, not without cause, considers "bad". | |
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The Princess Bride: Rugen takes delight in torture and imprisonment; while he's The Dragon instead of the villain, he's a far, far more vile character for his open and brutal sadism. Even he, though, is repulsed by the concept of draining fifty years out of Wesley— unless it's only that now he doesn't have a subject for his torture experiments. |
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A Robot Chicken sketch features Bo deciding to act citizenly when Rosco is behind them. He pulls in and gives out his license at will, but Rosco is so used to the boys breaking the law, he thinks it's some trick and shoots him. | |
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AC/DC's "Bad Boy Boogie": | |
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Good Omens (2019): The demons often speak this way, such as saying "All bad" in place of "All good". This causes some confusion when Ligur tries to report that Crowley is "up to no good." He means he might be a traitor, but Hastur just assumes he's doing his job right, since he's not supposed to be doing good. | |
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In Pibgorn, when Pibgorn tells Drusilla she learned from the best — she hastily corrects to the very worst. | |
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Duke Everlue in Fairy Tail considered Lucy ugly. Lucy. He claims he hires only the most beautiful women to be his maids, but all four (five counting Virgo) are so horrifically ugly that it's probably for the best that he does like them. | |
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In Steven Universe: and the Hunters of Arcadia, Jasper accuses Jamie's moral code as being nothing more than "[parading] around deceit and craveness like its a virtue." | |
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In The Omen novelizations Damien Thorn gives "his curses" to his worshippers and kindly promises them to "see you all in Hell". | |
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In Barbie & The Diamond Castle, the extended version of Lydia's Villain Song is like this. | |
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Batman (1989): The Joker joins Vicki Vale for a "date" in a museum café and looks over her portfolio of photographs. He dismissively flips through some shots of fashion models ("Crap, crap, crap...") before coming to a group of photos depicting mass graves in a war-torn foreign land. He reacts as if they are works of great beauty and genius. About a minute later, he brings his death-masked girlfriend in to show to Vicki and removes the mask, revealing that the other woman has a heavily scarred face. He calls this "a living work of art." | |
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Most players in Barony want to collect Blessed items (which are more powerful than normal) while avoiding Cursed items (which are less powerful, and also impossible to willingly remove). Unless you're playing as a Succubus or Incubus, for which Cursed items work like Blessed items do for eveyone else, while Blessed equipment is unremoveable. Being demons, they're also harmed by the Holy Water that heals most of the other playable races. | |
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Doctor Who: "Pyramids of Mars": A more subtle example occurs in "Blink": "Asylum of the Daleks" has one that nicely encapsulates the nature of the Daleks: |
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Doctor Who | hasFeature |
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In A Witch's Tale, Liddell leans more on the mischievous side, thinking torture instruments are awesome, romance is hackneyed, and that ancient, destructive magic is just what she needs to be a great witch. | |
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In Backstroke of the West Allah Gold (Anakin) voices his beliefs about heroes to Ratio Tile (Obi-Wan), and it may have something to do with the former's Face–Heel Turn: | |
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Jimmy Two-Shoes: Lucius Heinous VII as well as all the other Heinouses (except Beezy). Not only does he regularly talk about making people miserable in the same way people talk about making people happy, he is only ever proud of Beezy when he does evil things. Heloise certainly qualifies, as this exchange from "Carnival Lucius" indicates. |
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Boris and Natasha: "It's Good to Be Bad" is the title of a song in the movie, a quote by Boris, and a tagline for the film. | |
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In the series finale, Drakken and Shego team up with Kim and Ron against an alien invasion: | |
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In Afterlife (1996), the effectiveness of your Hell decreases if you make it too convenient and efficient for the souls that go there. As your advisors point out, the strategies that make a Heaven successful generally don't apply in Hell. You'll quickly get to find this out when Jasper berates you for making Hell's roads too straightforward and efficient rather than snarling them into a confusing mess, and it goes further from there. | |
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Eddie Riggs does this while trying to control a Tainted Coil Overblesser in Brütal Legend. | |
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In David Near's videos, Laughing Jack notes violent ends as "happy endings" and is disgusted by what's genuinely sound. He doesn't see any point in watching a toy train if it isn't exploding or running anyone over, he thinks love is "nothing but a sick, twisted game of manipulation," and considers a Happily Married couple celebrating their relationship as "some such nauseating filth". | |
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In 3 Slytherin Marauders, Tom Riddle is terribly embarrassed about being sorted into Gryffindor — the house of "goodie-two shoes" and "cannon fodder". | |
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Part of the Team Rocket trio's original motto from Pokémon: The Series mentions they want to "denounce the evils of truth and love". Although according to their rival squad of Cassidy and Butch, it's actually a botched version of the real motto which says to "denounce the goodness of truth and love". | |
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Sepulchre: Felix Kline, devotee of Sumerian god Bel-Marduk, venerates "the superiority that comes from corruption". | |
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Played straight in Seven Stones by Genesis. | |
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Saddam Hussein, as depicted on South Park. He loves Hell so much that when Satan finally decides that he's had all he can stand of Saddam, he banishes the dictator to Heaven (which in the South Park universe is populated only by Mormons). Saddam is immediately shanghaied by a troupe of actors who are just about to stage a play about how stealing hurts the thief as well as the victim, and he is dragged off screaming in despair. | |
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The Powerpuff Girls: Issue #68, "Micro Managing", has Blossom enlisting help from Mojo Jojo in defeating the Micro-Puffs (three mischievous sprite versions of the girls from another dimension) who have been brainwashing Bubbles and Buttercup into thinking they're the leader of the team. | |
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Sabrina the Teenage Witch: The early comics had witches operating on this principle and performing mean tricks on mortals. Sabrina's the exception and often got in trouble for doing good deeds. She's also considered homely due to an "ugly curse" thanks to the witches' backwards thinking. | |
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In the Millennium (1996) episode "Somehow, Satan Got Behind Me", a group of demons who appear as elderly men to regular humans discuss their work with each other in a late-night coffee shop. When one of them rudely asks for a cup, the clerk gives him his order after peeing in it. The demon apparently think this is hilarious and later commends the clerk for it. | |
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The Addams Family: The Addamses display this, in keeping with their Black Comedy villainous ways. For instance, Gomez asks Morticia whether she's unhappy-she smiles pleasantly and says "Oh yes." | |
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In The Darkside Detective, this is a feature of the Dark World. At one point, a denizen of the Darkside temporarily trapped in the normal world tells McQueen that she's scared out of her wits because there are no Giant Flyers swooping through the skies, nobody is being pursued by shadow-men, and "nothing, and I mean nothing is on fire!" | |
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This is lampshaded and exploited by Huey, Dewey, and Louie in the Quack Pack episode "The Boy Who Cried Ghost", where they frighten the monsters by wearing the cutesy Halloween costumes they got stuck with and having their uncle Donald pretend to be a baby, reasoning that since monsters are hideous they would be horrified of cute things. | |
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In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, bad guys often celebrate evil as though it were a religion. Spike once makes a reference to helping Giles "out of the evilness of his heart". | |
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In Demon: The Descent, as part of their Blue-and-Orange Morality, Demons literally reverse the status of the Virtues note Charity, Faith, Fortitude, Hope, Justice, Prudence, Temperance and the Vices.note Envy, Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, Wrath This is because they are essentially Clarke's Third Law-level AI who've gone rogue. Unlike humans, they don't possess instinctive desires and aren't used to being free-willed beings with a proper sense of self. Thus, selfish behavior is meaningful (i.e. fills your willpower bar) to a demon because it asserts their freedom and their status as sentient beings whose desires are equal to humanity, while virtue isn't much (just gives you a willpower point back) because it's not so much actual altruism as falling back on old habits from when they were just computer programs. So Greed is good, because the demon needs stuff to survive on Earth, while Charity is bad because you're acknowledging humans as being more worthy of it than you. Humility is bad because the nature that you're accepting is yourself as the God-Machine's mindless drone, while Pride is good because being a demon is basically lying about being a real person until reality starts to believe it. | |
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In LazyTown, one of Robbie Rotten's songs is "Good to be Bad." | |
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Igor is set in this kind of world. | |
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Characters in Baldur's Gate will react according only to their alignment and your reputation in a quite straightforward and dichotomic way. No matter the methods you use, a low reputation is always seen with favor by evil characters even at the cost of being hunted by guards around every corner, while a good reputation is despised even if it brings wealth and prestige. So, if you murder innocents, slay children, summon demons in the middle of a city and become the most hated public enemy no. 1, thus causing your reputation to drop, evil characters will comment with satisfaction about how the party is going and will always stay loyal (even those whose background stories don't portrait them as children-murdering psychopaths but only as self-centered individualists, as the label "evil" covers a broad spectrum of different personalities in a D&D-based system). But if you do too many honorable things and your reputation gets too high, they will first start to complain about the lack of progress and then leave never to return. In the sequel, the city of Ust Natha is based upon this very trope. Its society encourages selfishness, opportunism, racism, brutal slavery, murdering political rivals in order to get a promotion in the social ladder, sacrificing "friends" for a gain or even discarding children who disappoint their parents because "I have other children that can do better than you". Kindness and altruism are not only seen as despicable signs of weakness, but also considered a threat to the order and norms of the community itself, and a good reason to kill you if you don't adhere its strict rules. In the third game, if the Dark Urge asks Evil Mentor Sceleritas Fel the worst thing they've ever done before their Laser-Guided Amnesia, Sceleritas will say with horror that the Dark Urge once gave a beggar some coin and didn't even physically or verbally abuse the beggar. | |
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In The Creation Alchemist Enjoys Freedom, the main character's birthplace is a country that deifies combat prowess and looks upon non-combat gods given jobs like his [alchemist] with contempt and ridicule, to the point that noble houses routinely disown their non-combat progeny. This is bad enough, but his father takes it one step further and finds Thor's attempts to use his job to better the world as absolutely shameful, does everything humanly possible to hide the boys' merits and drive the boy to suicide, and sees it as supremely honorable when he gets the idea to banish the boy to what he sees as certain death by sending him off against his will to the Demon King Territory, and repeatedly brags about it, expecting praise. | |
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Hater and Peepers from Wander over Yonder run on this to the point where an outbreak of "happiness" on their ship (caused by Wander distributing presents amongst the Mooks) is treated like The Virus and unfolds from their perspective as a horror film. | |
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In Dinosaur Comics, Evil T-Rex from the Mirror Universe describes his glee thus: | |
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Villains in Charmed can harbor this attitude at times. For example, during one of Cole's attempts to get Phoebe back in his mad downfall period Piper once asked him how he could be so evil. His reply? | |
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The Lion Guard has a song about it called "The Worst Hyena We Know" by Janja looking down Jasiri positive traits believing Hyenas shouldn't be friendly and nice. | |
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The Tick: The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs At Midnight tries to play it off to the cops like he's just an electrician, but he can't help himself, following it up with: "bad is good, baby! Down with government!" He's full of that sort of thing. | |
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The Wartmongers, a race of toad-like creatures on The Smurfs (1981), are a variation; not all of them are evil (though most of the ones the Smurfs interact with are villains) but in their society, "pleasant is disgusting and disgusting is pleasant". For example, they think being ugly and covered with warts is attractive, and consider the adorable Pussywillow Pixies repulsive; also, they don't like the thought of clean water, but are fond of mud and grime, and they turn their nose at food that other folks like while eating rather unpleasant things. | |
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My Little Pony: The Movie (1986): Hydia, the Big Bad, a wicked witch who's always berating her daughters Reeka and Draggle for not being wicked enough, and alongside views things like sunshine, flowers, niceness and love as repulsive concepts while adoring grime, dank, darkness and cartoonish villainy. At one point, she threatens to force-feed them banana splits if they didn't tell her what has gone wrong with the Smooze. In "The End of Flutter Valley", she goes through with a similar punishment by forcing them to eat donuts. | |
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Pluto from Heaven's Design Team is a Nightmare Fetishist with a rather skewed idea of what is and isn't "cute". One of her attempts at designing an "adorably uncute" animal is a creature that eats feces and poisonous plants, screams at strangers, and has sharp claws and bifurcated genitals (which she considers cute), and also has fluffy fur and big round ears (which she considers uncute), resulting in a koala. | |
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A mild example with the Marauders' Map, which activates with the passcode "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good," the "no good" generally being pranks and mischief (rather than anything truly evil), which the Marauders considered high achievements, but of course are considered bad from a disciplinarian perspective, since they often violated school rules. Played more darkly in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, however, when it appears that their definition of mischief also extended somewhat into bullying, which is objectively bad, plus a "prank" which nearly led to the death of another student. They did rather grow up after that, though. | |
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Kingdom Hearts 3 Re:Final Stand: Braig in a nutshell. In chapter 38, he states that he joined the guard at Radiant Garden to be a conqueror and for the thrill of the fight, and openly says he preferred the rule of Hanako, a tyrant who was universally despised by her subjects, over Ansem, a Reasonable Authority Figure who kept the peace. | |
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The inhabitants of Halloweentown in The Nightmare Before Christmas. They say "How awful" when they see something they like and Dr. Finklestein says "Curiosity killed the cat" when he is praising Jack for wanting to do scientific research. Subverted when Jack's girlfriend Sally is — in all seriousness — trying to tell him that his plan to take over the Christmas holiday will likely end in disaster, which is something he does not want. Jack, at one point, has to correct the Mayor while they're making preparations to make their own Christmas. |
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This is how the devils speak in H-E Double Hockey Sticks: | |
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Spy Kids: In the climax, Floop is given the task of reprogramming all the robot children to no longer be evil. Not having time to rewrite their entire code, he instead implements a "binary switch," reversing their understand of right and wrong. Therefore, their originally programmed orders to be obedient Enfant Terribles are reinterpreted as being the very thing they should never do. | |
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