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Double Standard: Rape, Divine on Mortal
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Gods are powerful, and back in the old days they generally considered morality to be a quaint little custom that was not their style. When they weren't partying up at Mount Olympus or playing Russian Roulette with thunderbolts, the Greek Gods could be found making out with mortals, resulting in the birth of demigods. Unfortunately, they often didn't wait for consent, or indeed even care. This comes from two rationales: Values Dissonance: Personal attention from a super-being you worship? Getting to become the mother of a demigod? Consent? Someone somewhere at some time might say the mortal was a rape victim but the mortal in this position would be deeply offended by the accusation. They may not have been told beforehand but would have consented anyway. Might Makes Right: The attention is not appreciated but the gods can treat the mortals in whatever way they please because they have Omniscient Morality License or simply because their divine status means that the human has no recourse. In myth, there are conflicting accounts of many of these examples. A story of a god's relationship with a mortal woman can be interpreted in one way as a sexual predator assaulting a woman, and in another as a game being played by two lovers, Depending on the Writer and the interpreter. In addition, some ancient Greek sources don't differentiate seduction and rape, leading to interpretations that all gods never had consent, even in stories where the god is the one seduced. There were many ways in which the gods of old would "know" desirable mortals. These can generally be divided into two types: Direct: The divinity explicitly rapes or ravishes the mortal. Sometimes the god disguised himself so that the woman thought she was sleeping with her husband. Sometimes it was just outright rape. You name it, Zeus/Jupiter did it, and many other gods and goddesses did so as well. Indirect: The divinity impregnates the mortal in a manner that does not appear to involve conventional intercourse. One popular method was to do it as a cloud of shimmery mist. In case you're wondering, mortal women were far from being the only targets of not-so-holy intentions of the gods; many goddesses — and not a few gods, for that matter — were known for doing the same thing to mortal men. This trope applies not just to gods, but also to demigods and others with Divine Parentage. It is a staple of Greek Mythology. Nowadays, it's mostly a Forgotten Trope. Compare Muggle in Mage Custody, which is when a supernatural entity holds a mortal in captivity (with or without romantic subtext), and which is also something of a double standard (just like rape, it would be a criminal offense if an ordinary human did it to another, but is often considered normal and just when a magician or a god does it to a human). See also Double Standard: Rape, Sci-Fi. When the relationship is less one-sided, that's Divine Date. |
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In the X-Men Crack Fic Shuffle or Boogie, it's revealed that the Phoenix Force possessed Jean Grey's body so it could sleep with Scott. Of the several people present, only Jean herself objects to this note and Scott never finds out about it. | |
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In Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream, Bottom is the victim of a supernatural practical joke, and has the head of a donkey. Titania, the fairy queen, is the victim of another practical joke, dosed with a love potion, and forced to fall desperately in love with the next thing she sees. That would be the aforementioned Bottom. As soon as love-mad Titania casts eyes on Bottom, she wants him. Bottom, (who's having a bad day) decides to head home, not realizing that she's a fairy queen, and fairy queens aren't used to hearing the word "No". The scene of her capturing Bottom is never played as anything but hilarity, not say, kidnapping and sexual slavery. | |
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Things I Am Not Allowed to Do at the PPC: Discussed in rules 559 and 560, which instructs agents to avoid getting caught alone with Zeus or Aphrodite. The rule about Zeus states that the matter is to be taken seriously, even though Zeus engaging in hanky-panky with mortals is perfectly in-character for him; the possibility of a demigod being raised in HQ, where everybody has a tenuous grasp on sanity, would make for a very bad scenario. | |
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Toyed with in the French movie Immortal which involves the Egyptian god Horus forcing himself on the only woman on Earth able to bear his child using mind control. The guy whose body he possessed to do this was less than pleased, and it remains a bitter point of their love triangle (since the possessed guy starts falling for her). Horus himself states he doesn't see it as rape after getting an earful from Nikopol, and when further pressed on it points out that he's Above Good and Evil. At the end, she bears Horus' child, allowing him to cheat his fellow gods, and Nikopol goes to see her again. | |
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Happens to Odysseus in The Odyssey. After Circe had turned all his men into animals, Odysseus attacked her with his sword. She was surprised by this, but laughed at his futile attempt to fight and made him her lover. Afterwards his men were turned back into people and they all quite happily spent a year feasting on her island. The alternate myth has Odysseus raping Circe (on the advice of Hermes) after using a magic plant to become immune to her powers. | |
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Something*Positive alludes to this: | |
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In Berserk, Griffith undergoes a horrific transformation to become the godlike entity Femto, and his very first action was to rape his former comrade Casca. Now, a few brave fans - some of which are very diehard Griffith fans - have tried to explain or even justify Griffith's actions, one of which falls into the Omniscient Morality License rationale, since Griffith subsequently used the body of Casca's demonically corrupted child as a vessel to reincarnate himself into the physical world in two years time. Of course, there are a LOT of holes in this theory, ranging from the very rules of causality in the Berserk mythos, to the very sadistic and humiliating degree of the rape itself, so it's safest to say that Griffith did what he did For the Evulz. | |
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Played with in the TRON fic Invasion: Mercury (Program) corners Jet (User) and interrogates him, at first threatening his life, and then changing tactics. Jet sees little option but to comply with her wishes. Mercury didn't know what Jet was at the time, and mistook his energy patterns for agreement. | |
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In EverQuest, Innoruuk, the God of Hate, disguised himself as a regular dark elf male and impregnated a woman on the night of the Blood Moon festival that the dark elves celebrate every so often. Ceremony states that the female is supposed to ritually kill her mate as a sacrifice in Innoruuk's name if they have sex on that night. Of course, Innoruuk could spare a mortal body of some random dark elf, but the woman eventually gave birth to Lanys T'Vyl, Innoruuk's daughter and future Demi-Goddess of Strife. | |
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Possibly happens in the play Angels in America. It may or may not be a dream or vision when the Angel appears before Prior, but he claims this is what she did to him, not to mention that she had eight vaginas. He seems rather blasé when talking about it, especially given he's in love with someone else and gay, but then, the hell he's put through in the first act is most likely much worse. | |
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In The House of Night, despite the fact that Kalona radiates Darkness, females of all ages are still pretty keen on him. Even when the fact that he has raped women before is mentioned, it is conveniently ignored. Probably helps that Kalona has a Brainwashed and Crazy effect on people. | |
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#Blessed: Subverted. Despite the dubious consent of Joanna initially accepting the contract to date seven gods, she is the one who holds all the power and can set all the rules. | |
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In Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, Mouser got raped by the Goddess of Pain (which he sort-of enjoyed). She's a goddess—what are you going to do? Complain? | |
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Menandore has her way with Udinaas against his will in Midnight Tides, making use of the Might Makes Right approach. The resulting child plays a big role later in the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. | |
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In Lucifer, Jill Presto is impregnated by the Basanos, the living personification of the Tarot. When she has the chance, she leaves Eikon, the Fetus Terrible, to die in another dimension, but it turns out she was carrying twins. The other one, Noema, gets Brought Down to Normal and is born as a human child. | |
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According to one issue of Hellblazer, the conception of Jesus was carried out by having the Archangel Gabriel rape Mary. He didn't particularly enjoy the experience, which makes him vulnerable to Ellie seducing him later. | |
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Deconstructed in a John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme sketch, wherein Zeus tries to seduce a woman, but because he's in the form of a swan, she's less than attracted to him. | |
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Discussed and criticized often in The Camp Half-Blood Series. One example comes from Percy Jackson's Greek Gods. | |
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Age of Bronze: As the point of the comic is "The Trojan War minus divine interference", several deconstructions occur: Helen's mother Leda was supposedly seduced by Zeus in the form of a swan. In fact, she's just insane. Cassandra's curse of disbelieved prophecy came, not from refusing Apollo's advances, but from the fact that she and her brother were raped (as children) in Apollo's temple, the pedophile jeeringly claiming no one would believe them. Most sons and daughters of gods are actually normal humans with "son/daughter of the god" being a title bestowed upon priests and priestesses. |
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