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They've insulted you for your physical appearance. They've beat you up and stuffed you into the locker. They've told nasty rumors about you liking an unattractive girl. They tried to get the boss to fire you. Scratch that. Your boss wants to get rid of you, too. Heck, they even made an attempt to kill you, for goodness sake! Those jerks will do many nasty things to you just for the sake of making your life miserable. Wait. You think that your enemies are the best thing to ever happen to you? This is the trope where the hero has the ideology that having enemies is good, beneficial, or necessary for his life. Here are some common reasons why the hero puts up with them day after day: Moral character: The hero has gained a lot of enemies because he stood up for something that is right. After all, they're too cruel and nasty to understand it. This character usually believes that Peer Pressure Makes You Evil, and hanging with his boring friends is better than hanging with the wrong crowd. Motivation: Another reason could be that the hero sees their scorn as some sort of motivation. The more they hate him, the stronger and better he will become in the long run. Honesty: It could be that the hero knows that it's better to have openly honest enemies than untrustworthy friends. Reason 2 from above would be that enemies are lighting up the fire in the hero whereas friendships are just there to bring down the hero. Jealousy: They are torturing the hero for being different from them, but deep down, they envy him for being gifted with many talents and accomplishing so much in his life. This is what commonly creates a very dangerous villain for the hero. Culture: Plain and simple, the hero belongs to — or finds him/herself immersed in — a warrior culture in which the number and quality of your enemies is a measure of your achievements: the more people want you dead, the more important/powerful/dangerous they are, the greater your honour and reputation. As the page quote indicates, this is Literal Truth in Television for a good many Real Life cultures throughout history. Having this kind of reputation will often lead to people picking fights with you in order to build up their own reputation. Other reasons may vary. Because of these reasons, it's no secret that the hero wouldn't bother changing the status quo and it's also no secret that he remains physically, emotionally, and morally strong. Note that this doesn't always have to be exclusive to the heroes. Villains like the Visionary Villain can apply this philosophy to their goals, although that doesn't mean they wouldn't give their enemies a smug gloat if they have succeeded. Other versions would have an oppressive tyrant enjoy being hated because he believes they fear him. Even the hero would rub it in all of their faces for being inferior towards him, especially if it's reason 1 from above. Jerkass characters will use this trope to excuse their behavior towards others. Arrogant characters will often have this belief. This is more of an alternate version of The Power of Friendship where a hero's friends and allies are the reason why he has accomplished his goals. Replace friends and allies with enemies and you have this trope in a nutshell. Compare Misery Builds Character if opposition or mistreatment from others is what makes a character stronger. Compare Good Needs Evil if having enemies is a necessity. Obviously on the idealistic end of the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism. If so, it can be served as An Aesop if played right. Can be the belief of a Blood Knight as far as fighting is concerned. Can be Truth in Television for many politicians. See also Tall Poppy Syndrome. Characters with this mentality are likely to be Offended by an Enemy's Indifference. Contrast Somebody Doesn't Love Raymond. |
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Chappelle's Show: Played for Laughs in the skit "The Playa Hater's Ball" where people hate each other for being great... at doing very dirty, low-down things because they wish they were doing them. It makes a lot of sense considering this is one of the terms for "player hater". | |
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Invoked by Lex Luthor in the Grand Finale of Smallville, as part of what turns out to be a remarkably affable and inspiring Rousing Speech (which Clark needs because Apokolips is coming down to destroy the Earth, which Lex would like intact as much as everyone else). | |
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On Psych, Detective Lassiter takes great pride in the fact that there are a lot of criminals who might want to kill him. | |
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White Chicks has a memorable line said by "Party Boy" Russ: | |
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Teen Titans Go!: In the episode "Starfire the Terrible", Robin is depressed that he has no archenemy. Having an archenemy is a status symbol because it means a villain's whole motivation, the goal of their Evil Plan, is taking you down. To make him feel better, Starfire becomes his archenemy. Part of the plot of the show's feature film, Teen Titans Go! To the Movies, involves the Titans trying to get Slade to become their archenemy in order to earn some respect among the superhero community. |
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NCIS: Los Angeles: In the episode "The Debt", Sam, G. Callen, and, of all people, Hetty use the "Haters Gonna Hate" quote. | |
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In Dragon Age: Inquisition, Leliana's epilogue in the Trespasser DLC if she's softened and becomes Divine would use the uprisings against her as proof that she's on the right track. | |
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Harry Potter — A fledgling Voldemort is seen using a variation of this trope in a Pensieve Flashback to explain why Dumbledore has heard so many bad things about him; "Greatness inspires envy, envy engenders spite, spite spawns lies." While this statement may have some truth to it, Dumbledore does not believe for a second that it applies to Voldemort. | |
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Piper in Fallout 4 believes that a journalist shouldn't be considered a success until they've rattled the cages enough for someone to threaten their life. In that regard, she considers herself very successful. | |
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This was discussed in Lords of Dogtown where Skip tells the boys how they have made enemies in the skating contest, but Montoya replies that it's good to have enemies. | |
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He again boasts to his detractors in a promo in November 2010 after winning the WWE Championship from Randy Orton the previous week. | |
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Sam Vimes of Discworld's City Watch books takes great pride in having assassins constantly out for his head, because it means he's annoying people who ought to be annoyed. In fact he's almost offended when he eventually learns that the Assassin's Guild has stopped taking contracts on him. | |
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Elementary: In one episode Detective Marcus Bell's life has been threatened and Sherlock goes through his case files for possible suspects. After going through his case files and finding too many people put away to easily pin down who might want him dead, Sherlock compliments Detective Bell in these terms. | |
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Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory states that the neighborhood kids hated him because they were jealous of his intelligence. Mary, his mother, doesn't think that was really the reason. | |
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DuckTales (2017): During a press conference, Mark Beaks unveils a a self-driving robot car he calls B.U.D.D.Y. Launchpad and Gyro both immediately voice their displeasure (Launchpad because such an invention would replace him and Gyro because he doesn't believe Beaks could actually create such an innovation). Beaks immediately gloats to the audience that since Scrooge McDuck's personal driver and chief inventor feel threatened by the robot, that means it's a great product. Scrooge himself also seems to take pride in how many enemies he has made: "If I Had a Nickel... for every person who cursed me with their dying breath, I'd be twice as rich as I already am!" This trope is deconstructed in "The Life and Crimes of Scrooge McDuck" when he realizes that he made an archenemy out of Magica for refusing to save her brother even when she begged him to help, which in turn causes him to realize that having so many enemies may not be such a glamourous thing. |
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According to the WWE, the reason John Cena is one of the biggest, if not THE biggest, star today is because not only for having a large fanbase, but also having a huge pack of haters. In this case, it doesn't really doesn't matter whether he's cheered or booed, what counts is that he has the biggest reaction out of everyone else. In his heel days as the Doctor Of Thuganomics, he freestyled about this just days after losing to Kurt Angle at No Mercy 2003: |
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The Dark Knight: Gotham is a Wretched Hive. So if Harvey Dent doesn't have enemies (and a lot of them), then he's no doubt corrupt, as Rachel playfully reminds him after Dent foils an attempt on his own life in the middle of a mobster's trial. | |
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One episode of the Spider-Man: The Animated Series featured an alternate universe version of Peter Parker who was an arrogant prick (who was also reckless and less skilled) because he didn't have his Hero with Bad Publicity status in that universe. | |
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In Dragon Age: Origins, Loghain will remark that his late friend King Maric once told him that a man can be judged by the quality of his enemies. He wonders if that's more a compliment to you or to him. | |
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The Canim of the Codex Alera actually believe that a good enemy is better to have than a good friend and have multiple words for it, in much the same way Eskimos are said to have multiple words for snow. Most prominent of these is their word, gadara, which roughly translates to a "trusted enemy." Fathers and sons actually refer to one another by it. | |
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Milo Murphy's Law: Believing Milo Murphy is intentionally trying to prevent him and Vinnie Dakota from fulfilling their assignment makes Balthazar Cavendish happy because he takes it as a sign their assignment isn't meaningless. | |
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The Interview has Dave Skylark routinely boasting "they hate us 'cause they ain't us!" Kim Jong-un had a similar, less catchy, line, "they despise us, because they are not us." He's quick to adopt Dave's version after he hears it. | |
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The official tagline for Batman: Arkham Origins was "Your Enemies Will Define You". | |
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Played with in BlazBlue. Hazama needs people to hate him to stay in the world. | |
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In the Big Finish Doctor Who episode I, Davros: Corruption, a Thal suicide squad attacks a meeting hosted by the Supremo who rules Kaled society. However their target turns out to be not him but Davros, whom their statistical computer has identified as the greatest threat. Davros's mother takes a pride in the implication that her son is the most important person on the planet. | |
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A game mechanic in Fallout 3. Having Good Karma causes Talon Company to be sent to hunt you down while Bad Karma has the Regulators sent after you. Either way, you get enemies for have any notable effect on the world, but No Points for Neutrality. | |
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In The Venture Brothers, Dr. Orpheus actually says he's jealous of Dr. Venture because he has archenemies, saying that having one is "romantic." Also played with in the Running Gag that the Monarch is insulted by the fact that Dr. Venture usually doesn't consider him much of a threat. |
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Part of CM Punk's infamous "pipebomb" promo in June 2011 states that ever since he came to the WWE, he was strongly hated because Paul Heyman saw something in him that they don't want to admit. In short, he's a Paul Heyman guy. His speech against John Laurinaitis points out that the reason Laurinaitis has been getting under Punk's skin for the past months is because he's jealous of his success as the WWE Champion. This is what also let Big Johnny to snap. |
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Cinderella: Lady Tremaine and her two daughters treated Cinderella like utter crap, but this stems from the fact that Cinderella was the center of attention of Lady Tremaine's late husband. | |
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Part of the plot of the show's feature film, Teen Titans Go! To the Movies, involves the Titans trying to get Slade to become their archenemy in order to earn some respect among the superhero community. | |
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Mass Effect: This is a core belief of the Krogan race. They love to fight and their culture reflects this. The more challenging the enemy, the greater the glory when they are killed. If you manage to impress a shaman, he'll tell you "May your foes be strong enough to keep you sharp!" If you don't, he'll give you a backhanded insult by saying "May your enemies give you exactly what you deserve." Urdnot Dagg (the third game's stand-in for a dead Grunt) specifically says he envies Shepard as the only organic to be considered a personal enemy by the Reapers. During the "From Ashes" mission in the third game, Shepard can mention this to Ashley. This is the very reason why most krogan have so much respect for Shepard, despite him/her being a human. Grunt decides to follow, and declares Undying Loyalty to the Commander immediately once Shepard describes the scale of the enemies that s/he's fighting against. Even Urdnot Wreav, a krogan supremacist that believes them to be the apex race and has almost nothing but contempt for everyone else, admits to having a grudging respect for Shepard based solely on the fact of making an enemy of the Reapers. |
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Batman: The Joker thinks this. He values his bitter feud with Batman far more than any ally he’s ever had. Some stories suggest he’s worked out Batman’s identity but refuses to acknowledge it any more than he’ll confirm his own, because he couldn’t stand having some ordinary guy as his archenemy. | |
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This quote in Gone To Texas: The Outlaw Josey Wales published by Forrest Carter: | |
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The reason why people have many enemies is because of them choosing to follow God and His laws. It's one of the reasons why Jesus wants His followers to love and pray for their enemies. | |
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The Miz's promo during his run as the United States Champion has this Wham Line: He again boasts to his detractors in a promo in November 2010 after winning the WWE Championship from Randy Orton the previous week. |
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The pilot episode of Glee has aspects of this trope. There's Will encouraging Rachel that it comes with a price for showing her talents and there's Finn giving Puck this moving speech: | |
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NCIS: Gibbs takes the fact that bad guys are trying to kill him as a sign that he's doing his job. | |
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Happens in Kim Possible. Even Drakken admits she was a worthy foe. | |
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The first lines of Shinedown's "Bully" implies this: | |
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In an episode of The Boondocks, we have Huey and Riley discussing this matter in "Shinin'": | |
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In Watership Down, the rabbits' ancestral hero is called "Prince with a Thousand Enemies". Since rabbits are prey animals, their mythology is based around this concept; rabbits are awesome because every predator around them wants them dead. However, it's also noted that this is also a divine punishment-the Pw1000E thought he was more awesome than God, and so God said, "If you're so neato, everyone's going to hate you enough to want to eat you because of it." | |
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One Piece: The World's Greatest Swordsman, Dracule "Hawk-Eye" Mihawk. While he takes pride in his title, he's also bored of it because there isn't a swordsman in the world that can seriously challenge him for it. Only Shanks ever stood a chance, and he ceased to be a challenge for Mihawk when he lost his sword-arm saving Luffy when the latter was seven. Without a serious rival, the weight of the title decreases significantly, something that Mihawk is bitterly aware of. One of the reasons he took an interest in Zoro, to the point of training him during the Time Skip, is because Zoro is the first swordsman in years to show the potential, determination, and ambition to reach Mihawk's level. Among pirates, it is a commonly held belief that making enemies, especially among the Three Great Powers, is vital to their way of life and reputation. This rule is considered to be of the utmost importance, and it is followed by all pirates who take pride in their profession. Under the leadership of their captain Luffy, the Straw Hat crew has garnered a notorious reputation for their unparalleled prowess in defeating anyone and anything that stands in their way, regardless of their affiliation with the Three Great Powers. Their unyielding determination and incredible combat skills have made them a force to be reckoned with and a name that strikes fear into the hearts of their enemies. |
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The Bible deals with this trope a lot, making this Older Than Feudalism. The reason why people have many enemies is because of them choosing to follow God and His laws. It's one of the reasons why Jesus wants His followers to love and pray for their enemies. The reason why Joseph was hated by his ten half-brothers was for three things: 1.) Being favored by Israel, thus being granted with the "coat of many colors". 2.) Sharing his dreams to his family, which said dreams were given by God. And 3.) Being the most loved son of his father, Jacob. David was resented by King Saul just for being the only one to defeat Goliath. King Saul lost God's favor for disobeying His orders of killing the Amalekites. Job is a good example of a person who is doubted by others (his wife and his close friends) due to putting their trust in God during a Crisis of Faith. Stephen was hated and brutally stoned to death all because he was witnessing to others about Jesus, cementing himself as the first Christian martyr in history. For this matter, a Christian being persecuted for their faith in God is a sign of honor and rewards, especially in heaven. Jesus Himself. He was hated, tortured, mocked, and was nailed to a cross for performing miracles that some thought was impossible to believe, preaching doctrines that the Pharisees strongly disagree with, angrily rebuking merchants for defiling His Father's house, and most importantly, being the Son Of God. The Beatitudes and Woes are a contrast that explicitly bring up this trope, pointing back to Israel's history and saying that the real prophets were always oppressed and scorned by the people, while the false prophets were always lauded and fawned over. Some scriptures assures that it is better for a believer to have enemies than to be an enemy of God. John 15:18-20 is an example of this: |
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In The Fairly OddParents! special "Channel Chasers", Timmy revealed that if he was never miserable with an evil and mean babysitter like Vicky, he would never had Cosmo and Wanda in the first place. It was also learned that in "Vicky Gets Fired", Timmy having Vicky as his babysitter was for the greater good of the world, since having her rule the city, country, or the world would have been worse. |
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American Gangster has a scene where Frank Lucas, a Villain Protagonist, is advised by Domonic Cattano that he can be successful when he has enemies, but unsuccessful when he has friends. | |
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This is the reason why Jeremiah Johnson ends up with a sizable list of mortal enemies from among the local Native American tribes; it's a small relief that the other natives respect him precisely because of this. | |
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In The Bard's Tale, a barbarian chieftain tells the Bard that the locals "Loathe you! Despise you! They'll curse your name for a thousand years! Ahh, what I wouldn't give for fame like that...!" | |
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In Easy A, Olive is (initially) pleased when other students notice her presence enough to jeer at her when she walks down the hall. In this example, it's less a sign of confidence than the exact opposite: she feels like she needs attention of some kind to give her life worth, even though she’s happy in all other respects. | |
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Among the superheroes in Basic Instructions, The Knifeketeer isn't considered badass because heroes are judged by their recurring villains, and all of his enemies are dead. | |
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During his feud with Hulk Hogan in mid 2005, Shawn Michaels insults the Montreal crowd for hating him because he's everything they wish they could be. This is one of the guys who claim that he screwed Bret Hart. | |
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Doctor Who Missy is deeply offended when the Doctor refers to Davros as "his greatest enemy", because that's her role. She also wants them to be friends again. She'd probably say that only a limited human mind would see a contradiction there. In "Victory of the Daleks", the Evil Plan of the Daleks is simply to get the Doctor to acknowledge that he's their enemy, as a Dalek Progenitor Device refuses to accept them until the Doctor—their archenemy, does so. In the Big Finish Doctor Who episode I, Davros: Corruption, a Thal suicide squad attacks a meeting hosted by the Supremo who rules Kaled society. However their target turns out to be not him but Davros, whom their statistical computer has identified as the greatest threat. Davros's mother takes a pride in the implication that her son is the most important person on the planet. |
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Fozzy's "Don't You Wish You Were Me". | |
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Rivals Series: Played with, but ultimately deconstructed. Viktor's fans who also tend to serve as Yuuri's haters only serve as even more motivation for Yuuri to beat Viktor; while this drive eventually causes him to succeed in his goal, their constant ridicule even after the fact and his failure to repeat the feat at the Grand Prix Final the following season does a number on his already fragile mental health and nearly drives him to a breakdown. | |
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An episode of The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack sees the trope Played for Laughs when K'nuckles tells Flapjack that great adventurers have many enemies, so Flapjack sets out to make as many enemies as possible. | |
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Son Goku of Dragon Ball has allowed then-enemies Piccolo and Vegeta to escape from their respective fights because of this; he enjoyed the challenge of fighting them so much that he wanted to do it again, even though both have tried to kill him. Even when obliterating Kid Buu, Goku wished he would reborn again (as a good guy) so they could fight, a wish that came true in the Distant Finale. | |
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Something Lost Something Found: Apep fully believes this, considering it proof that an exile like her is once again being taken seriously by the other Outer Gods. This makes her only more interested in claiming Morgan as her own Foreigner as the others would see it and relay to their patrons that Apep is back in business. And if they send their own Foreigners to Shinjuku for Apep to slaughter once she's crossed over to Earth? An even better announcement that she's back in the game. | |
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According to the Kurohyo Ryu Ga Gotoku Shinsho PSP spin-offs of the Yakuza series, the reason why Kiryu is often accosted by random thugs throughout the series is that surviving a fight with him is a common initiation ceremony for local gangs. Kiryu may not realize that this trope, or the other trope, Gang Initiation Fight, are in effect, but it's clear that he's a respected (though constantly pestered) Legend, with nearly everyone in Kamurocho attempting to fucking murder him. | |
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The second volume collection of The Sandman (1989) opens with Destiny recapping the first arc. This involves Morpheus retrieving his lost helmet from a demon, and earning the enmity of Lucifer himself in the process. | |
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Stanley invokes this early on in Erfworld. Parson assumes they're "the bad guys" on the basis that almost everyone else in the setting is coming to wipe them out. Stanley retorts that everyone being out to get him proves he's doing something right. | |
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Fallen London: Apparently, having people trying to kill you is something to be proud of, as you're "important enough to be worth murdering" in the game's own words. The person who gives you the quest is even jealous, having only gotten a few petty criminals after her. Then again, it might just be the tamer side of this trope combining with the fact Death is Cheap and resulting in even the friendliest of rivals killing each other regularly. | |
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In a story from the Mickey Mouse Comic Universe, Detective Casey stands by with a uniformed officer while Mickey and the Phantom Blot duke it out near them, Casey saying it's part of their ritual and remarking that "a man is defined by his enemies". The uniformed officer slyly responds "Is that why you don't have any?" | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: In the episode "Checkpoint", Buffy points out that the reason she keeps being belittled by The Watcher's Council was because they wanted to keep her from realising that she had the power. She explains that Glory talked down on her and never bothered to finish her for the same reason: Buffy had The Key, and that gave her power over Glory who needed it. | |
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Dellyn in Goblins believes that how badly a person's enemies want to kill them decides whether or not they're worthy of being described as 'legendary'. Not that he'll let anyone he wants to kill be described as legendary. | |
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In YuYu Hakusho, our heroes have to fight through the Dark Tournament against teams of demons. Demons also make up the entirety of the tournament's spectators, so whenever Yusuke (a human who polices demons that arrive on Earth) starts fighting the crowd will begin booing or entering into loud chants like "Kill The Human!" This all just makes Yusuke more eager to kick ass. To fit the Trope even further, Kuwabara (Yusuke's friendly rival fighting on his team) winds up jealous the demons don't boo him as loudly. | |
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