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In every community for every series, there are common mistakes. Someone could use the wrong spelling of a character's name, or think that the title referred to the main character, or insist on spreading a rumor about the plot until everyone believes it, or pigeon-holing fans into negative stereotypes. Sometimes, it goes further than just "dislike", though. Sometimes it crosses into Berserk Button territory, and the reaction is disproportionate rage at the offender. A Sub-Trope of Common Knowledge. Compare Cowboy BeBop at His Computer (when media gets the facts wrong), Discredited Meme, Fandom Heresy (when it's a subjective opinion and not objective mistakes), I Am Not Shazam, Refrain from Assuming (when a song title is different from its lyrics), Serious Business, and Broken Base. This Audience Reaction has been subject to some misuse. Fandom-Enraging Misconceptions are objective mistakes that annoy fans. Please read the following lists to make sure your example actually qualifies. |
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Watchmen: There's sometimes confusion about whether it's "Watchmen" or "The Watchmen". This provoked a lot of fan-rage when the movie came out, especially because "watchmen" was an Arc Word in the comic, and became the name of a superhero team in the movie. (In the comic, Captain Metropolis's team is called "The Crimebusters".) | |
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Terrible Writing Advice discusses some examples in its "Reboot of Reboots" video, in which, after J.P. sarcastically tells writers to acquiesce to disingenuous wannabe-film critics on clickbait aggregate websites so as to avoid such criticisms for the reboot, there is a shot of three characters holding up picket signs alleging bad-faith accusations against Beauty and the Beast, Dune, and Lord of the Rings, respectively, all of which can be disproved just by watching or reading the works themselves: that Belle has Stockholm Syndrome, that Paul is a white savior, and that LOTR is an allegory for World War II. | |
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Specific to Kanon, the widespread use of "uguu" by detractors of moe in general, many of whom have never even heard of Kanon, gets annoying. The fact that about five minutes passes from the first time Ayu says 'uguu' to the first time the game makes fun of the whole thing (and even less time in the anime) is a big factor here. "AM I KAWAII UGUU?" is right out. | |
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Likewise, don't mistake ParaNorman for a Tim Burton movie either. | |
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Not all Minecraft-based content creators are "racist white boys" (cis-het status optional). Make this mistake and be prepared to have any fans within earshot slowly and methodologically list a plethora of creators who do not fall under these categories — creators of colour and/or those who do not speak English as a first language (particularly following the advent of the QSMP and the subsequent integration of international MCYT fandoms), female (or otherwise non-male) creators, LGBTQ+ creators, etc. | |
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X-Men: Cyclops fans will be quick to point out that his Optic Blasts are not "lasers" or "heat vision", but rather beams of concussive force. I.e. "his eyes are portals to the punch dimension". This has been referenced in a comic storyline where Cyclops attempts to reconnect with his deadbeat dad through a camping trip. Cyclops snaps at his father for assuming he can light the campfire with his Eye Beams, saying it just goes to show how little he knows about his own son. |
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Character concept-wise, mentioning that the cast is a complete rip-off of Care Bears characters will cause massive backlash. Doesn't help that there's one exact case where someone made said comparison and, judging by the disabled comment section, that person succeeded in evoking the HTF fans' wrath. | |
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This sometimes happens regarding Lex Luthor's name, particularly in Justice League Unlimited. A talk show host interviewing Luthor, who happens to be running for President at the time, pronounces it Luther, while in another episode Superman gets it right by forcing the 'thor' part. It's also hard to shake Ned Beatty's unforgettable Brooklynite rendition in Superman: The Movie, "Mistah Loo-Toah!" | |
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You'll be sure to rile up Coraline fans if you call it a Tim Burton movie. The most likely cause of this confusion is that the advertising proclaimed it to be "From the director of The Nightmare Before Christmas"...but the director of both, and the man referred to in the advertising, was Henry Selick. Many people think Burton directed Nightmare, but he actually only produced it and worked on its story. It may have been intentional wording, however, to deliberately make people think of the more well-known Burton while still being accurate. Likewise, don't mistake ParaNorman for a Tim Burton movie either. |
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Cailen Crow's comic is not a furry comic, and Cailen himself is not a furry. His characters are supposed to be anthropomorphic animals à la Looney Tunes. Also, his avatar is not Daffy Duck. He's a crow. | |
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"So why doesn't he just kill the Joker?" This has been such a sticky subject for fans that comic writers and even the Batman: Arkham Series have adapted this topic. | |
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My Little Pony: Stallions have always existed in the series, with the only exception being G3 of 2003-2009 (until even there Twinkle Wish Adventure had background colts). Despite this people often say that the franchise, especially G1, is female only and it pisses fans off. G2 never had a cartoon. My Little Pony Tales is G1. The gens are based on the toys, not how many cartoons are released. |
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The Flash: One that applies to a lot of the DC fanbase but also specifically for the Flash fanbase is saying Superman is faster than any Flash. Not that people didn't have fun with the stories where that was a plot point, it's just acknowledged that having the Flash be faster than Superman is just better for the Justice League's dynamic, as well as making Superman less overpowered. For reference, at this point almost every incarnation of The Flash has had a story that confirms that they're faster than Superman (Wally West is just acknowledged as the Fastest Man Alive period and has shown he can easily outrun Superman, Barry Allen demonstrated his greater speed in The Flash (Rebirth) while claiming any past defeat was 'for charity', and Jay demonstrated he was faster than Clark in a story during Geoff Johns run where Jay attempts to commit a Heroic Sacrifice), so only Jesse Chambers and Bart Allen are left to prove it (though Jesse has outraced Supergirl). | |
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RWBY: Claiming that RWBY is anime or implying that it's a Japanese production. The show does draw heavy inspiration from anime, but it's made by the American Rooster Teeth, although it is extremely popular in Japan, to the point of having official manga adaptations, and a professional Japanese dub that aired on TV, and an anime adaptation. Don't refer to any of the heroes as a "Hunter". The masculine and gender-neutral term is "Huntsman", with its feminine counterpart being "Huntress". The only official use of "Hunter" alone is in reference to Ren's father, who was a hunter in the more traditional sense of the word. Regarding Pyrrha Nikos' death at the end of Volume 3, do not say that the writers decided to have that happen in order to help make the show darker, as it turns out Monty Oum himself had always intended for Pyrrha to eventually die as early as when the series began. |
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One of the fastest way of pissing off a Blood Angels fan is by saying "You painted your Blood Ravens wrong". | |
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Paranoia. Even in the game world itself, referring to The Computer as "the Computer" or, worse, "the computer" can get you a summary execution. "Friend Computer" will do. | |
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Tamagotchi: Calling the Tamagotchi virtual pets "Nano Pets" or "Giga Pets". Both are the names of separate toys that were trying to cash in on the success of Tamagotchi. Similarly, calling either of the aforementioned copycat products, or any others that competed with Tamagotchi back when it originally released in the 90s, a "Tamagotchi". Tamagotchi came first and became the catalyst for all those copycat toys. |
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Saying that Beauty and the Beast is about Stockholm Syndrome is a good way to start an argument with not only fans of the film, but people actually familiar with how Stockholm Syndrome works. | |
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Being a Dream SMP fan does not equate being a Dream Team fan either; while there is certainly some overlap, many DSMP fans dislike the controversies that Dream has been involved in and prefer to distance themselves from him and his friends. | |
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Black Panther: Fans hate it when the hero is accused of being created as a mascot for the Black Panther Party. Not only did his comic book come out before the party was founded, but Marvel actually changed the hero's name to Black Leopard for a while to avoid any associations with the political organization. | |
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Don't assume that SMG4 started the idea of Super Mario 64 machinima bloopers. They were done years before SMG4 came along. Also, don't assume that X, FM, MarioMario54321, and the like are original characters; they are real Mario 64 machinimists who also use Palette Swaps of Mario as their Author Avatar. | |
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SMG4: Insisting that the "classic" (2011-16) videos are nothing but Values Dissonance can cause anger from older fans, especially considering the series' two most popular videos ("Who let the chomp out?" and "Freddy's spaghettiria") are from that era, and, aside from a few lines and the title of the latter video's sub-series, are perfectly harmless when it comes to dated humor. In addition, the dated humor wasn't just limited to the classic era, as slurs and jokes that are now considered dated and/or offensive were still made all the way up to 2018 ("Guards N' Retards: Da bomb" and "Lost in the Woods" being just 2 examples), so claiming that only the classic era had these jokes and is bad for it can also garner criticism. Meta Runner is not a Spin-Off of SMG4 as Common Knowledge often insinuate - it's actually the opposite, as SMG4's Tari was solely created as a teaser for Meta Runner prior to its official announcement, with SMG4's Tari being an Alternate Universe counterpart of Meta Runner's Tari. This was done solely to avoid having the SMG4 fanbase being thrown off by an otherwise completely unrelated show. Don't assume that SMG4 started the idea of Super Mario 64 machinima bloopers. They were done years before SMG4 came along. Also, don't assume that X, FM, MarioMario54321, and the like are original characters; they are real Mario 64 machinimists who also use Palette Swaps of Mario as their Author Avatar. On the flip side, if SMG4 was your first introduction to the Mario series, don't think Spike is canonically named "Fishy Boopkins" or think that any of the Original Characters such as Tari, Saiko, and Shroomy are official Mario characters around Mario fans. |
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NovelAI: No, the image generator does not trace, or read from a database of images, or cut and paste into a collage. That's simply not how the technology works. It's not even close to how it works. The persistent misinformation surrounding this has led to driving a sharp wedge between the community and people who think the community is nothing but art thieves and NFT minters. | |
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SCP Foundation: For really entertaining discussions, just try to say how SCP-173 is a rip-off of the Weeping Angels. Don't call it "SPC". That stands for "Shark-Punching Center". Most who read the SCP wiki in-depth are forgiving if someone assumes the SCP Foundation is primarily horror, given how many iconic SCPs are horror-based note mostly due to Adaptation Displacement from the SCP-087 game, Containment Breach, and SCP: Secret Laboratory, and will offer a simple correction. However, claiming that the site was always meant to be horror and complaining about certain SCPs not being scary will get a much more negative response. |
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Meta Runner is not a Spin-Off of SMG4 as Common Knowledge often insinuate - it's actually the opposite, as SMG4's Tari was solely created as a teaser for Meta Runner prior to its official announcement, with SMG4's Tari being an Alternate Universe counterpart of Meta Runner's Tari. This was done solely to avoid having the SMG4 fanbase being thrown off by an otherwise completely unrelated show. | |
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Wicked is not set in the same canon of The Wizard of Oz or Land of Oz. It's not meant to be a canonical story in either universe, but many viewers take it as so. Wicked is a mishmash of canons (MGM's green-skinned Wicked Witch and Oz being in a separate universe from Kansas, several book-only characters and references, etc) set in its own continuity. Fans of all three incarnations get bitter when people mistake them for one and the same. | |
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Homestuck contains music created by Toby Fox, but he was far from the only person who did music from the comic. | |
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Clue(do): Never refer to Miss Scarlet, Colonel Mustard, Mrs. Peacock, and Professor Plum as "Miss Red", "Mr. Yellow", "Mrs. Blue", and "Mr. Purple". Ever. | |
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As Gabe discovered, fans are all too ready to point out that the plural of LEGO is LEGO. Funnily enough, this rule gets broken in the first LEGO Island game when DJ Radio delivers the headline "LEGOs in SPACE!".note Unless it was intended as the contraction "LEGO's", i.e. "LEGO is in SPACE!" The LEGO Group used to specifically make the point on the packaging that they should be called "LEGO bricks or toys" and not "LEGOs". They were worried about their trademark becoming genericized, as happened to, say, escalator and linoleum. | |
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The Slender Man: Being mistaken about the origin of the mythos. No, it was not originally a Creepypasta, although many Creepypastas involving him have been written since his creation. No, Marble Hornets did not create him, though they are the primary reason as to his popularity,note their antagonist's name is officially The Operator, and referring to him as The Slender Man is another, milder example of this trope and neither did Slender. The Slender Man was created on a Something Awful forum thread, as part of the "Let's Create Paranormal" story writing contest. Referring to the main creature as just Slender. This occurs most often with fans who were introduced to the mythos through the game of that name. Calling the creature Slenderman likewise draws ire from some fans. Referring to him as Slender Man as if it's his name is similarly a point of agitation. THE Slender Man is just a description of his appearance — a tall, gaunt being that looks vaguely like a man. Calling Hoody or Masky "proxies" will get you treated to a nice lengthy explanation of how the term wasn't used in Marble Hornets and neither should be considered as such. Your best bet is to only use the term "proxy" when talking about Dark Harvest (the series from which the term originated) or Tribe Twelve. |
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The Order of the Stick's Big Bad Xykon has to deal not just with random members of the community, but even characters in the comic spelling his name wrong (with a Z). He can even tell when you misspell it in a speech balloon. And he will kill you for it. | |
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Higurashi: When They Cry: Dumbing down by describing it as the "killer lolis" series is a thorn in the side of many fans. Calling Rena yandere annoys her fans. While she can be violently overprotective of her friends and father, it's not the main reason behind her behavior. Shion is the closest to a yandere that the series has. Mistaking the twins Shion and Mion for one another. When they were younger, they used to swap identities for fun, and so that Shion could experience the kind of life Mion enjoyed as the family head. Unfortunately, one of these swaps occurred on the day that Mion was meant to be given a ceremonial tattoo on her back to signify her position as heir. Thus, the twins were forced to forever adopt the identity of the other, making this issue even more convoluted. |
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Las Lindas author Soul Kat has a big Berserk Button related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. | |
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Fortnite has had several skins based on licensed characters. Fortnite's is also massively popular with younger audiences who might not be familiar with those characters' origins. Because of this, implying that Rick Sanchez, John Wick, Kratos, or any of the other Crossover characters are "from Fortnite" is a good way to piss off fans of their actual source material. | |
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Scott The Woz: Scott's catchphrase is "Hey all, Scott here", not "Hey y'all, Scott here". You have no excuse for getting this wrong. This misconception even gets referenced as a quick joke in the 200th episode. | |
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G2 never had a cartoon. My Little Pony Tales is G1. The gens are based on the toys, not how many cartoons are released. | |
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The Nostalgia Critic employs Alter-Ego Acting, and while the show is a vehicle for Doug Walker's opinions (and it's implied in early episodes that Critic's name is also Doug), Critic's attitude and beliefs are often deliberately exaggerated for comic effect. Referring to Critic as if he just is Doug Walker and not a character in his own right will really piss off fans, especially given that To Boldly Flee made it a plot point that Doug and Critic are two different entities. | |
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Pathfinder: Unless you're using a specific house rule to allow it, rolling a natural 20 or a natural 1 does not result in an automatic success or failure (respectively) on anything other than an attack roll or a save. Suggesting to a hardcore group of players that they apply to skill or attribute checks may earn anything from scowls to mockery to firm suggestions to try reading the rules. This also applies to D&D 3.x, the rules on which Pathfinder is based. |
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Ghost Rider's Penance Stare is not dependent on how much guilt the person it's being used on feels. You realize how lame that would make Ghost Rider's signature power based on the kind of people he regularly uses it on. It all started with an issue of Thunderbolts (2012) where The Punisher No-Sell's it, claiming it's because he's never felt a single shed of guilt for all the people he's killed. In reality he'd prepped for the fight and had an angel feather granting him divine protection against his powers. They even had Ghost Rider appear in an issue of his own season and take him down easily with the stare, but the damage was done. | |
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Disney Ducks Comic Universe: For fans of the series featuring Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge, particularly old-school fans of Carl Barks' work, referring to the comics as "Duck Tales comics" or primarily associating characters like Scrooge, Gyro or the Beagle Boys with DuckTales is a sure recipe for a fan rant. | |
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Dungeons & Dragons: D&D has demons and devils. Many, many fans commonly mistake the two (which isn't really helped by the fact that the earliest editions just had demons, but no devils) and nearly just as many are really anal about fans who can't get it right. And when you throw in the fact that the most common kind of both demons and devils have more specific names (Tanar'ri and Baatezu respectively), it all just gets very messy, very fast. Plus other kinds like obyrith and archdevils that more pure-blooded fans know about. Part of this comes from the fact that, in many versions of the game, demons and devils DO have objective differences based on Alignment: while both are always Evil, Demons are characterized as always Chaotic, Devils are always Lawful. This extends to other celestial beings like Angels, Archons, Devas, Asuras, etc., where it is less defined. Misspelling "rogue" as "rouge" will get you flamed in most online fora. Every edition of the game has had a major revision about halfway through in order to, depending on whom you ask, fix balance issues or sell more books. The revision of third edition is officially called 3.5. The revision of second edition ("Player's Options") is frequently called 2.5 and that's no big deal. However, calling the revision of fourth edition ("Essentials") "4.5" is a berserk button among fans of that edition. |
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Neopets: The site was never run by Scientologists. While it's true that a major investor early in the site's life was a Scientologist, and said major investor tried to turn the site into Scientology propaganda, it didn't actually succeed, as the staff fought the attempts to the very end and none of it ever made it onto the site. Neopets and Neopets Metaverse are not the same website or the same community. In fact, the two, staff and community alike, are extremely hostile towards one another, the former overwhelmingly against the crypto-based business model of the latter while resenting being Mis-blamed for being responsible for its creation, and the latter openly mocking the former for being, in their eyes, blinded by Nostalgia Goggles. Just because the two use the same IP does not mean they have the same audience or creators. |
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LEGO: As Gabe discovered, fans are all too ready to point out that the plural of LEGO is LEGO. Funnily enough, this rule gets broken in the first LEGO Island game when DJ Radio delivers the headline "LEGOs in SPACE!".note Unless it was intended as the contraction "LEGO's", i.e. "LEGO is in SPACE!" The LEGO Group used to specifically make the point on the packaging that they should be called "LEGO bricks or toys" and not "LEGOs". They were worried about their trademark becoming genericized, as happened to, say, escalator and linoleum. |
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Saying that Dies Irae glorifies Nazism simply based on the fact that is has Reinhard Heydrich as its over-the-top hammy main villain tend to often be enough to seriously irritate the fanbase. That despite the fact that the story portrays him and those who are morally aligned with him as nothing short of monsters and failures of human beings. | |
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Saying something along the lines of "I've been playing this thing for several hours now, where's all the yaoi sex?" will get you worse glares. DRAMAtical Murder is a BL game, but there aren't any explicit scenes until the latter half of the story (near the ending in most routes), so needless to say, they aren't a major part of the game. A lot of people start playing purely to watch the H-scenes, completely ignoring the actual plotline and dumbing down the characters, to the ire of fans. | |
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Ant-Man: Want to piss off Marvel Comics fans, especially Ant-Man fans? Call Hank Pym a wifebeater. Given how grossly such a statement oversimplifies the incident in question and the fact that neither the writers nor the haters ever shut up about it, this is rather understandable. | |
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Batman: "So why doesn't he just kill the Joker?" This has been such a sticky subject for fans that comic writers and even the Batman: Arkham Series have adapted this topic. Another common argument that the fanbase are sick of hearing is "If Bruce Wayne really cared about Gotham, then he should donate some of his money to improving things rather than dressing up like a bat and punching people." Bruce Wayne is an active philanthropist in just about every Batman continuity — his charitable donations don't get as much narrative focus as his superheroics, sure, but that's not too surprising considering his story is about superheroics. Also, even if he could give his full attention to philanthropy, Gotham is famously full of corrupt officials/political figures who would no doubt try to get his money as much as they can. This is addressed in The Batman (2022). Ra's Al Ghul. According to Denny O'Neil, his name was originally meant to be pronounced 'Raesh'. While the phrase "head of the demon" does indeed translate into "ra's al-ghuul" in real Arabic (suggesting the character's name is NOT supposed to consist of a made-up language), the pronunciation does not contain the sounds "i" or "sh". In Batman Begins it's pronounced 'Rahs', which is much closer to the actual pronunciation. Still, pronouncing it in any way other than 'Raesh' will attract much ire from fans. In Batman Beyond, Terry pronounces it "Rahs" and is "corrected" by Talia (actually Ra's). |
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Gunnerkrigg Court: The third girl from the photo is not Jones, and she is not related to Gamma in any way. Fans continued to speculate to the contrary, even though Tom Jossed those theories, within hours of their first proposal, then put a note to that effect below the comic. At one point, a forum regular who should have known better suggested that this speculation should be a ban-worthy offense. This specific line of Wild Mass Guessing seems to have stopped now that it's been unambiguously confirmed in-comic that the photo girl and Jones are different people. | |
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Frozen: Don't call Elsa "Princess Elsa". Aside from the beginning of the film where she is a princess (though never referred to as such), she is Queen Elsa, and making the mistake of calling her "Princess" will cause backlash. Don't call Elsa a villain. Yes, she was originally written as one and maybe some of her actions are questionable, even if they're accidents, but the fandom will not take kindly to Elsa being called a villain. It doesn't help that pre-release advertising was intentionally deceptive to help preserve that Frozen was actually defying many Disney cliches—the "evil sorceress" isn't evil or even intentionally antagonistic and the Prince Charming-type is the real villain. Confusing Elsa with Rosalina isn't a good idea. An easy way to get a rise out of Frozen fans is to say Anna is a ripoff of Rapunzel and Disney can't design female characters anymore. Honey Lemon from Big Hero 6 faces similar debates. |
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Don't called Dwarfs "Dwarves." The former is the plural in Warhammer Fantasy, the latter is the plural in The Lord of the Rings. | |
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The Land Before Time: Do not spell Cera's name as "Sarah" or "Sara". | |
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Do not assume that Spider-Ham from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse was inspired by the Spider-Pig gag from The Simpsons Movie. He was actually created as a one-off character in 1983. | |
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Do not call it a ripoff of You and Me and Her, as while the latter can be considered one of the inspirations for the former, the only things the two really have in common are that they're both Deconstructions of Dating Sims where the main villains have Medium Awareness and meta aspects, and in fact do things quite differently from one another. Conversely, do not say that Doki Doki Literature Club! came first. | |
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Superman: One aspect that's particular to the DC reboot is the case of Superman's identity, and which is the 'real' persona. Pre-Crisis, "Superman" was the real character and "Clark Kent" was a character he played to 'fit in' among humans and get information about ongoing crimes.note This is Depending on the Writer, with some pre-Crisis stories holding that "Superman" and "Clark Kent" are equally fictional, and the "real" persona is Kal-El Post-Crisis, "Superman" is just what he does, while "Clark Kent" is who he is; he's genuinely a mild-mannered Every Man who happens to be a Physical God and he chooses to use those powers to help people, but "Clark Kent" is very much the identity where he acts as who he is. Generally, Clark-as-the-real-persona adds considerable depth to his character, so most fans and creators prefer this. However, despite this being canon since 1985, some people seem to think of "Clark Kent" as the facade, and it can often get on fans' nerves when it's treated as if the 'real' Superman is the simplistic archetypal superhero he pretends to be.note Yes, Bill, we mean you. Though in that case, the fandom prefers to take the fact that he's wrong as just another of his flaws. This sometimes happens regarding Lex Luthor's name, particularly in Justice League Unlimited. A talk show host interviewing Luthor, who happens to be running for President at the time, pronounces it Luther, while in another episode Superman gets it right by forcing the 'thor' part. It's also hard to shake Ned Beatty's unforgettable Brooklynite rendition in Superman: The Movie, "Mistah Loo-Toah!" |
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Referring to The Lion King (1994) as a rip-off of Kimba the White Lion is not going to end well, as this notion has been repeatedly debunked. Not only do the two franchises have little in common, but The Lion King is actually a re-telling of Hamlet. Furthermore, most examples used as "proof" that The Lion King copied Kimba come from the 1997 Kimba movie, which although based on the second arc of the 1950's manga, The Lion King predates by three years. | |
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BattleTech Clan fans don't like it when you call the Timber Wolf and Summoner their Inner Sphere names MadCat and Thor. Lest you want to be called a "Freebirth Stravag". note Most Clan mechs have two canonical names, but one is considered correct and the other is a reporting name by their enemies. The reverse also applies, as using Clan names around Inner Sphere fans will earn you the title of "Clanner scum" and a volley of insults about your defeat at the hands of Space Comcast. Any type of comparison of the Word of Blake Jihad to Middle Eastern Terrorists claiming 'jihad' against the West is considered in poor taste and usually avoided. Comparisons to the Blakists to Islam are also considered ignorant since Battletech shows several perfectly reasonable planets of Islamic faith (particularly in the Draconis Combine, which is something of a surprise considering the Combine's many authoritarian stances). At least one in-universe news article is from a polite but clearly irate Islamic scholar who takes umbrage at the use of "Jihad" by the Blakists to describe their interstellar temper tantrum war crimes, correctly pointing out how this appropriation sullies the word and its original meanings and implications. |
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The names of the main characters in Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street are spelt "Sweeney Todd" (three Es, two Ds) and "Lovett" (not Lovet, Lovette, Lovatt etc). This is incredibly common online, and drives some fans to Epiphany-level rage. | |
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Helluva Boss: No matter what anyone says, the writers did not deliberately rewrite Stella in Season 2 to be nastier and crueler to Stolas in order to retroactively justify Stolas' affair. Claiming this to a fan will have them point out the numerous hints in the first season that Stella was rotten to the core and the writers had always intended it. | |
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Les Misérables: Enjolras' flippant comment in the book and 2012 movie notwithstanding, the story does not take place during the French Revolution. The barricade scenes are set during the June Rebellion, over forty years after the French Revolution. | |
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Tintin: Detectives Thompson and Thomson are not identical twins, as the different spellings of their surnames shows. It doesn't help that the other characters sometimes sarcastically describe them as twins, nor that they were inspired by Tintin creator Hergé's real-life father and paternal uncle, who were identical twins themselves. | |
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Yosuga no Sora Do not say that Sora was pregnant with Haruka's child in the fandisc Haruka Na Sora, not just because of the Brother–Sister Incest, but because it was a rumor that was eventually disproven (for a time, it was treated as fact on the series' wiki, but no longer is). No, Akira and Kazuha do not become a yuri couple at any point or route in the story, as this is also a rumor that was once treated as fact on the series' wiki before being disproven. The closest we get to this is a fantasy Haruka has at one point in the anime. |
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For Game Theory, do not treat any such theory as canonical fact to its respective franchise, especially if it contradicts that franchise's canon. Remember, it's called "Game Theory", not "Game Fact" for a reason. | |
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In regard to Mirage Comics-based Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (or the early IDW issues), asking why all of the Turtles are wearing red, or "why they're all Raph", or any indication that their original bandana color is weird and foreign. | |
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Peanuts: No, Peppermint Patty and Marcie are not lesbians. What Ho Yay some people see in the strip is very mild, and contrary to the Subverted Kids' Show jokes some other works have made, it is not Canon. Both have (unrequited) crushes on Charlie Brown (and other guys in the specials) and the idea of them being lesbians has been reportedly jossed by Charles M. Schulz himself. Don't call Peppermint Patty just "Patty". There is already a separate character named "Patty". Don't spell Frieda's name as "Frida" or "Freida". And no, she is not the Little Red-Haired Girl, either. Lucy and Violet should not be mistaken as each other and vice-versa. Fans can tell you that Violet can be distinguished by the hairbun. |
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A side effect of the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise's infamously divided fanbase with a significant Vocal Minority of unpleasant fans, is that many viewers took MarioTehPlumber seriously during his earlier years on YouTube. Since then, it has become increasingly accepted that MarioTehPlumber was a Troll whose opinions are either fabricated or exaggerated, and taking his videos seriously nowadays will elicit eye-rolling from viewers, especially those who enjoy the demented hilarity of his exaggerated persona (which is admittedly his entire fanbase now, more or less). | |
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Spider-Man: "Spider-Man" is two words separated by a hyphen; spelling his name "Spiderman" or "Spider Man" is a good way to get called out. Spidey himself sometimes gets annoyed at people making this mistake In-Universe; amusingly, he can (somehow) tell when the hyphen isn't included in the dialogue, and occasionally takes the time to chew out the character speaking. | |
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Saying the Robot Chicken sketch "Attack on Homestar Runner" was an official crossover is not a good idea; even if it traces assets from the official Homestar cartoons. Even Strong Bad expressed his frustration about this one on Twitter. | |
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Fate/stay night; thanks to the massive success of the anime adaptation of Fate/Zero causing a Newbie Boom for the franchise, it's not uncommon for anime-only fans to view it as the peak of the franchise. That alone doesn't quite ruffle the feathers of the visual novel fans as much as their tendency to judge the adaptations of the original routes on the basis of "which is the superior sequel to Zero." For context, Zero was a prequel light novel released about 3 years after the VN to flesh out the vaguely-described events of the previous Holy Grail War, drawing heavily on characters and themes which don't show up in the VN until tens of hours into the story (leading fans to assume Zero invented these elements), and contradicts the VN in enough small but significant waysnote Most notably Saber in Fate/stay night had never met an Einzbern before, and while she did value chivalry she was very guarded about information and willing to follow dirty tactics if necessary (even proposing some herself). Meanwhile in Zero she works directly for an Einzbern, and her devotion to honour is Flanderized to the point of giving out secrets unprompted and fighting at a handicap for the sake of fairness. The characterisation change has in-universe justification as her becoming more desperate after her failure in Zero, which has Approval of God; the Einzbern change does not. that official media have gone back and forth on whether it's even set in the same universe (eventually settling on "it's still 95% what happened, so just treat it as canon and ignore the parts that don't fit"). So fans treating Zero as if it is the "original" series understandably will test the patience of long-time visual novel readers. | |
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Zero Escape: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors fans get pretty annoyed when people call the game the "video game version of Saw", which is a rather bad berserk button to have when this is pretty much what every professional reviewer who reviewed the game said. Hardcore fans however will point out that "999 is much more original than Saw" and that "if you actually pay attention to the game's entire plot, it's actually nothing like Saw". In actual fact, the game was heavily inspired, not by Saw, but by Eastern horror movies, in which the theme is less about sadistic people inducing violence, and more about sadistically inducing fear. The theme of the game, going through a game involving puzzle-filled rooms, has been compared to Saw, but as fans are quick to point out, the actual puzzles and entire set up for why they exist in the first place is nothing like it. The same goes for its sequel Virtue's Last Reward. |
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Warhammer 40,000 Demon is an acceptable vernacular, though the preferred word is Daemon. Lord help you if you get the A and the E confused. Space Marines armies aren't "pretty much all the same". There are myriad differences between the named codices, much less the various ways the plain Space Marines codex is interpreted by both players and in-universe Marine leaders. Every army in Codex: Space Marines isn't "pretty much Ultramarines". Depending on whom you ask this is either Ultramarines propaganda, or egregious and atrocious canon manipulation by Matt Ward. Blood Angels and Dark Angels are very different armies; do not confuse them. One of the fastest way of pissing off a Blood Angels fan is by saying "You painted your Blood Ravens wrong". Do not call an individual unit selected from Codex: Black Templars a singular "Black Templar". You can call them by their unit names when all else fails. You can also call them an Initiate or a Crusader. They're Orks. "Orcs & Goblins" are in the other Warhammer game (see below). The K is important, especially to Ork players, who have been known to hound people til they leave a forum for making this mistake. For Orks, the "g" in "WAAAGH!" is silent. If you forget that, then fans might call one on you. Do not call armies fielded from Codex: Space Marines "vanilla" or "generic" Space Marines without knowing your opponent really well. Many Space Marine players take offense to both terms. This has largely crossed into dead horse territory with the 6th edition codex folding many chapters into the book and creating "Chapter Tactics". Now it's very common to ask a Space Marines player what chapter he's representing since the chapter tactics are a very important part of the metagame. Add in the litany of supplements released for chapters (Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, etc.) and pretty much nobody gets slapped with the "vanilla" label... except the Smurfs. Don't use "Real Warhammer" or "Original Warhammer" to indicate that you mean Warhammer to a 40k player. Also don't call it just "Warhammer" and assume they know what you mean. 40k-exclusive players consider 40k Real Warhammer. The accepted terms of distinction are "Fantasy" and "40k". You can also call Fantasy "Classic". Also bear in mind, a considerable population plays both. |
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Warhammer Don't called Dwarfs "Dwarves." The former is the plural in Warhammer Fantasy, the latter is the plural in The Lord of the Rings. |
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VShojo: Do not assume that Zentreya is actually a guy because she uses a text-to-speech device, as there's no evidence that proves she is and it's considered offensive to both the character and the person behind them to say such. | |
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Aquaman: A general one for DC Comics fans, but a major one for fans of the character himself, is to call Aquaman useless. The guy has numerous powers beyond just talking to fish and is more than just his Superfriends incarnation. Making these jokes means you're basically admitting you don't read DC comics or are a Know-Nothing Know-It-All when it comes to Aquaman. | |
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For really entertaining discussions, just try to say how SCP-173 is a rip-off of the Weeping Angels. | |
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Confusing Elsa with Rosalina isn't a good idea. | |
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Calling The Thief and the Cobbler a rip-off of Aladdin is both unwise and factually incorrect; The Thief and the Cobbler was in production long before Aladdin was, and only came out afterward because it went through severe Development Hell. Fans will point out that, if anything, Aladdin was the one that borrowed from The Thief and the Cobbler. | |
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Referring to the Ace Attorney series as simply Phoenix Wright is not a good idea unless you're specifically talking about the games starring him, as there are other protagonists such as Apollo Justice and Miles Edgeworth that have starred in their own games in the series. | |
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Doki Doki Literature Club! Do not call it a ripoff of You and Me and Her, as while the latter can be considered one of the inspirations for the former, the only things the two really have in common are that they're both Deconstructions of Dating Sims where the main villains have Medium Awareness and meta aspects, and in fact do things quite differently from one another. Conversely, do not say that Doki Doki Literature Club! came first. Saying that the negative traits that the girls have were solely caused by Monika's rewriting is a bad idea, as it's firmly established that they already had such traits and Monika at most only amplified them. Saying that Natsuki's father being abusive is only a rumor or a fan theory will cause fans to bring up that the game itself all but explicitly states it to be canon. |
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Do not call Drakar och Demoner (Dragons and Demons, abbreviated to DoD in order to differentiate it) a Dungeons & Dragons ripoff, as that is a sure sign you have actually never played it or even heard much about it besides its name. | |
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Calling Hoody or Masky "proxies" will get you treated to a nice lengthy explanation of how the term wasn't used in Marble Hornets and neither should be considered as such. Your best bet is to only use the term "proxy" when talking about Dark Harvest (the series from which the term originated) or Tribe Twelve. | |
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Another common argument that the fanbase are sick of hearing is "If Bruce Wayne really cared about Gotham, then he should donate some of his money to improving things rather than dressing up like a bat and punching people." Bruce Wayne is an active philanthropist in just about every Batman continuity — his charitable donations don't get as much narrative focus as his superheroics, sure, but that's not too surprising considering his story is about superheroics. Also, even if he could give his full attention to philanthropy, Gotham is famously full of corrupt officials/political figures who would no doubt try to get his money as much as they can. This is addressed in The Batman (2022). | |
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Happy Tree Friends: DO NOT mistake any well-known fan-made character as a canon character. At best, you'll drown in disappointment but at least other fans are willing to simply correct you on that. At worst, you'll be shouted at by the more hostile fans, especially if they don't like the idea of fan characters in general (which also isn't helped by the idea of Truffles's Video Bomb Competition). During the post-TV series era, saying that Flippy has fully gotten over his flip-outs was enough to garner the wrath of fans. It didn't help that the next time a flipped-out Flippy appears, it's only in Flaky's imagination ("Without a Hitch"). The fanbase has calmed down since the release of the Love Bite short "On My Mind", which depicts Flippy flipping out. Character concept-wise, mentioning that the cast is a complete rip-off of Care Bears characters will cause massive backlash. Doesn't help that there's one exact case where someone made said comparison and, judging by the disabled comment section, that person succeeded in evoking the HTF fans' wrath. For the more serious fans that have done their research, hearing FatKat being referred to as a permanent part of the cast is their Berserk Button. No, FatKat is not a canon HTF character. No, he's not a fan character either. He's a guest character (for a single HTF Break, mind you) who is simply an HTF version of an animation studio's mascot. Unfortunately, fans still make this error from time to time. Referring to Flippy and Fliqpy as the same character will grate on quite a few nerves. From a physical standpoint, they are, but given the sheer night-and-day difference between the two, trying to blame Flippy for something that Fliqpy did can earn you some rather harsh looks. |
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Asking "what if Operation Sealion had been successful" or even mentioning the "Unmentionable Sea Mammal" in a non-ironic way on AlternateHistory.com is sure to end in much banging of heads against walls in frustration at the prospect of having to explain to yet another noob just why it could not, under any circumstances, have worked. | |
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Homestar Runner: It's Strong Bad, not Strongbad.*Hence, he and his brothers being referred to collectively as "The Brothers Strong" And he doesn't wear boxing gloves; those are his hands. The Cheat's name is always said with the integral article. Even if it would make no grammatical sense in context, his name is always "The Cheat", never just "Cheat". This still applies even when it's not used as a proper noun (i.e. his species is a The Cheat). Same goes for his old-timey counterpart, The Sneak. Do not say that The King of Town is Marzipan's father. That was a very old bit of story information that was Ret Conned ages ago. When hearing about the old info in-universe, the King of Town was completely perplexed. Saying the Robot Chicken sketch "Attack on Homestar Runner" was an official crossover is not a good idea; even if it traces assets from the official Homestar cartoons. Even Strong Bad expressed his frustration about this one on Twitter. |
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On the fora of Looking for Group, anyone ignorant enough to post anything even hinting that they think the comic is a World of Warcraft story happening in Azeroth will get beaten up, crucified, eaten and shot, in that order. Despite the fact that the comic started as a Warcraft parody (though only for a very brief period) and incredibly obviously took significant inspiration from the games. | |
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An easy way to get a rise out of Frozen fans is to say Anna is a ripoff of Rapunzel and Disney can't design female characters anymore. Honey Lemon from Big Hero 6 faces similar debates. | |
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Hellaverse: In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of low-effort rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes on par with shows like Brickleberry. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme Vulgar Humor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not more profanity and risque humor (Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them. Helluva Boss: No matter what anyone says, the writers did not deliberately rewrite Stella in Season 2 to be nastier and crueler to Stolas in order to retroactively justify Stolas' affair. Claiming this to a fan will have them point out the numerous hints in the first season that Stella was rotten to the core and the writers had always intended it. |
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Regarding SHUFFLE!, do not refer to Kaede as a Yandere if you're only talking about the visual novels rather than the anime, as she was only made into one in the anime. | |
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While Katawa Shoujo may have an unsettling premise for featuring a Themed Harem of physically-disabled love interests, it's not a Dead Baby Comedy, even if the source material (a set of joke character designs which the game strongly departed from) is. | |
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Being mistaken about the origin of the mythos. No, it was not originally a Creepypasta, although many Creepypastas involving him have been written since his creation. No, Marble Hornets did not create him, though they are the primary reason as to his popularity,note their antagonist's name is officially The Operator, and referring to him as The Slender Man is another, milder example of this trope and neither did Slender. The Slender Man was created on a Something Awful forum thread, as part of the "Let's Create Paranormal" story writing contest. | |
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Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors fans get pretty annoyed when people call the game the "video game version of Saw", which is a rather bad berserk button to have when this is pretty much what every professional reviewer who reviewed the game said. Hardcore fans however will point out that "999 is much more original than Saw" and that "if you actually pay attention to the game's entire plot, it's actually nothing like Saw". In actual fact, the game was heavily inspired, not by Saw, but by Eastern horror movies, in which the theme is less about sadistic people inducing violence, and more about sadistically inducing fear. The theme of the game, going through a game involving puzzle-filled rooms, has been compared to Saw, but as fans are quick to point out, the actual puzzles and entire set up for why they exist in the first place is nothing like it. The same goes for its sequel Virtue's Last Reward. | |
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The villain of the first Don't Hug Me I'm Scared is named Sketchbook, not Notepad. And they are not female, their gender is ambiguous (though the latter isn't helped by them having a female voice actor). | |
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Do not ever ever refer to The Phantom of the Opera as an opera in front of an opera fan. The fact that the word 'opera' is in the title does not make it one. It is a musical. A Broadway production. The same thing goes for Les Misérables and other such works — although some, like Les Miserables, may meet some definitions of operettas. Don't call them operas in front of your opera-loving friends (especially since their true forms are novels)... unless you hate them and want to end the friendship, of course. | |
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Transformers: Do not refer to G1 Overkill as a "tyrannosaurus rex". He is a ceratosaurus. | |
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Calling Rena yandere annoys her fans. While she can be violently overprotective of her friends and father, it's not the main reason behind her behavior. Shion is the closest to a yandere that the series has. | |
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