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This is the ethnic character who will, contrary to the wisdom or knowledge of all present, insist that some cultural icon, item, form of art, technology, stock quote, etc. is native to their country. If the character is an alien, this can cross over into Beethoven Was an Alien Spy; or at least the alien will insist that they were. This can be a subset of Cultural Posturing, but only when the character insists on this because it makes their country sound more awesome. It is always possible that they only use this trope because they believe it to be fact. An example of Older Than They Think would not be this. This is where the character didn't do the research (if not done intentionally). Or perhaps the story is so far removed from the present day that what's Common Knowledge to the audience is Shrouded in Myth, and everyone in-story assumes the Klingons Did It First. It's also possible that the Rubber-Forehead Alien or Human Alien culture does really have very human-like thoughts, and could independently have a proverb that coincidentally matches an old earth proverb. Related to Future Imperfect. Compare Pop-Cultural Osmosis, Race Lift, Creator's Culture Carryover. Often implies that Klingons Love Shakespeare. |
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Star Trek Online has an interesting variation; the end of the Civil War arc was given a heavy metal rock song called "Steel and Flame" out-of-universe, primarily performed by Mary Chieffo. The kicker is that it's sung entirely in the original Klingon. | |
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In one of the Lord Darcy tales, Lord John Quetzal mentions how Master Sean O Lochlainn attributes everything the Anglo-French have achieved to them copying ideas from the Irish. Lord John himself, an ethnic Aztec, inverts this trope by claiming that everything his own ancestors ever accomplished was copied from the Olmecs. | |
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Youtuber Carl Benjamin aka Sargon of Akkad rebuts the Horrible Histories assertion that [concept X] is not British because it didn't originate in Great Britain (citing tea as a specific example): yes, the British didn't invent or discover tea nor is tea drinking culture uniquely British, but the version of tea culture that developed there is definitely specific to the British Isles. | |
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A "You know Jesus was _____ because..." joke has been made for pretty much any race or nationality, such as the Indian one listed above under Goodness Gracious Me. Others include black (because he liked gospel, called everyone "brother" and couldn't get a fair trial) and Puerto Rican (because his name was Jesus, his mother's name was Maria and he was utterly sure she was a virgin). | |
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In the Christopher Reeve The Muppet Show episode of Escape from Vault Disney!, Sam the Eagle claims that William Shakespeare is American, while Tony debates him and insists he's Canadian. | |
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In The Big Bang Theory, Raj Koothrapali echoes this character when he maintains Sherlock Holmes is really Indian and Arthur Conan-Doyle merely copied an Indian literary character, a polymath intellectual who solved crimes for a hobby. | |
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One episode of The Garfield Show involves Garfield showing a film depicting cats being responsible for the creation of, among other things, cheese, lasagna, and the Mona Lisa. Then, it's revealed that mice created all those... Similarly, in a few episodes of Garfield and Friends Garfield reveals that a cat was responsible for the world's greatest discoveries like the movie camera, the airplane, and of course lasagna. |
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According to No Fear (an early arc from Geoff Johns' Green Lantern run), languages like German and Egyptian originated outside of Earth, we in fact ripped the languages from the E.T.s and whatnot. No doubt explains why the aliens speak English in the DCU. It's fortunate for us that linguistic drift of both America and the galaxy headed in the same direction. | |
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In Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Party teaches that it is responsible for every major technological development of the past century. As time goes on, it takes credit for more and more of the past. (The protagonist learned in school that the Party invented the helicopter. His considerably younger girlfriend learned that it also invented the airplane. The protagonist suspects that in ten to twenty years children will learn that it also invented the steam locomotive.) Similarly, every impressive building is held to either have been built by the Party after the Revolution, or — if that's too implausible — to date from the vaguely-defined "middle ages". The capitalist era is held to have produced nothing of value. |
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Red Dwarf: The Cat insists that his race invented those little drawings that are sometimes found accompanying the text in a book. They call them pictures. Red Dwarf A to Z includes a segment with two Daleks who claim that the works of Shakespeare and Beethoven's symphonies were written by Daleks. |
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Happens a bit in the Vorkosigan Saga, resulting from Barrayar being a lost colony for an extended period of time. Lots of Earth stories, jokes, proverbs, etc. are referred to as being traditionally Barrayaran, and this for a while applied to Shakespeare himself. They didn't actually ever think he was Barrayaran, but their efforts to keep his plays alive through oral tradition were so successful that Barrayar somehow "preserved" three plays unknown to the rest of the galaxy. There's a fan version of one of them. | |
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Subverted in a The Hero of Three Faces strip set shortly prior to Star Trek: The Animated Series, when Arex has just taken Chekov's place at navigation. He says the tritonic co-ordinator is an Edoan invention, and Sulu has to tell Kirk that yes, it really is. | |
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In Goodbye Lenin, when his mother (who doesn't realize that the Berlin Wall has come down) sees a Coca-Cola banner on the building across the street from her apartment in East Berlin, the protagonist explains it by showing her a fake newscast claiming that, after it was proven that Coca-Cola had actually been invented in East Germany, the company agreed to build a factory there as part of an out-of-court settlement. | |
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In The Real Frank Zappa Book, Frank Zappa relates his Sicilian father's theory that everything was invented by Sicilians, up to and including The Roman Empire. | |
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On Gilligan's Island, a Japanese submariner who doesn't know World War II is over subjects Gilligan to "Japanese water torture." When Gilligan points out it's actually called Chinese water torture, the sailor snaps "They copied it from Japan!" | |
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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: In the episode "The House of Quark", Quark claims that "Discretion is the better part of valor" is an old Ferengi saying. To be fair, the 125th Rule of Acquisition is "You can't make a deal if you're dead." Also of note, Ferengi are quick to integrate parts of alien culture that fit well with their desire for profit. To whit, Earth's Wall Street is venerated as some kind of holy site, and certain human idioms such as "Every Man Has His Price" and "No good deed goes unpunished" are codified in the Rules of Acquisition (#98 and #285, respectively). In the episode "Explorers", O'Brien claims that Romulans are particularly prone to doing this, though he doesn't give any specific examples. Considering the fact that they call themselves Romulans, and their core planets are called Romulus and Remus, not to mention the whole Romulan Senate being styled after a certain Earth-based senate from the past... Well, O'Brien was stating the obvious. In the episode "Tacking into the Wind", Worf quotes, "Great men do not seek power; they have power thrust upon them." — which sounds like a reference to Twelfth Night, but is actually attributed to the Klingon mytho-historical emperor Kahless, predating the Bard by some 700 years. |
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Similarly, in a few episodes of Garfield and Friends Garfield reveals that a cat was responsible for the world's greatest discoveries like the movie camera, the airplane, and of course lasagna. | |
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Star Trek offers a number of examples: In Star Trek: The Original Series, the "Russian Joke" is a standard part of Ensign Chekov's character. In various episodes, he claims that Scotch whisky, the Cheshire Cat, Cinderella, and the Garden of Eden are all Russian. According to Diane Duane's novels, he's joking, as when people don't believe his claim that the roller coaster was invented in Russia (true, for a change) he pleads that "this time" it's the truth. In the pilot episode of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Spock tells Captain Pike that the Vulcans invented first contact, to which Pike responds the Vulcans never fail to remind them of that fact. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: In the episode "The House of Quark", Quark claims that "Discretion is the better part of valor" is an old Ferengi saying. To be fair, the 125th Rule of Acquisition is "You can't make a deal if you're dead." Also of note, Ferengi are quick to integrate parts of alien culture that fit well with their desire for profit. To whit, Earth's Wall Street is venerated as some kind of holy site, and certain human idioms such as "Every Man Has His Price" and "No good deed goes unpunished" are codified in the Rules of Acquisition (#98 and #285, respectively). In the episode "Explorers", O'Brien claims that Romulans are particularly prone to doing this, though he doesn't give any specific examples. Considering the fact that they call themselves Romulans, and their core planets are called Romulus and Remus, not to mention the whole Romulan Senate being styled after a certain Earth-based senate from the past... Well, O'Brien was stating the obvious. In the episode "Tacking into the Wind", Worf quotes, "Great men do not seek power; they have power thrust upon them." — which sounds like a reference to Twelfth Night, but is actually attributed to the Klingon mytho-historical emperor Kahless, predating the Bard by some 700 years. |
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In Hogan's Heroes, the group tries to help a downed Russian pilot. The pilot keeps insisting that Russia is superior (a Russian invented the telephone, the Volga is the longest river in the world, etc.). This is justified because he had been fed this sort of propaganda all his life. | |
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In Les Innommables, one Chinese character says Marco Polo stole the concept of pasta on his journey through China; in fact, Italy had been serving pasta for centuries before Marco Polo's journey. | |
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In the BattleTech universe, members of the quasi-mystical cult/organization known as ComStar are traditionally rather prone to claiming historical quotes and bits of wisdom from other sources as statements of their by now legendary founder Jerome Blake. | |
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A notable one in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: | |
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In Star Trek: The Original Series, the "Russian Joke" is a standard part of Ensign Chekov's character. In various episodes, he claims that Scotch whisky, the Cheshire Cat, Cinderella, and the Garden of Eden are all Russian. According to Diane Duane's novels, he's joking, as when people don't believe his claim that the roller coaster was invented in Russia (true, for a change) he pleads that "this time" it's the truth. | |
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In an episode of Sliders, Rembrandt asks Professor Maximillian Arturo if he can fish. Arturo indignantly replies "I'm English. We invented fishing." The scene where they fish shows how horrible he is at it. He ends up catching the smallest fish of the day. | |
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In Pale Fire, Kinbote's commentary strongly suggests that he believes Shakespeare to be of Zemblan ancestry. | |
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The President attempts to invoke this in an episode of The West Wing in regards to a drink he's just discovered. | |
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This is part of Korea's characterization in Hetalia: Axis Powers. The real South Koreans were not amused. | |
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Mr. Portokalos (Toula's father) in My Big Fat Greek Wedding insisted Greece created everything, even naming the kimono. Like every other stereotype and character quirk in that movie, that is actually Truth in Television exaggerated for comedic effect. | |
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While The Sound of Music isn't generally a big thing in Austria (except in Salzburg, and even there it's only big with tourists, especially Americans), the song Edelweiss has been mistaken for an Austrian folk song. Theodore Bikel was approached by an Austrian after a performance, who told the actor that he had known the song for a long time, but only in German. | |
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In Pygmalion and My Fair Lady, Higgins claims that English is "the language of Shakespeare and Milton and the Bible." While it's obviously done as a joke in the context, the King James translation was indeed written in a poetic manner and was undoubtedly influential to the development of the English language. | |
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Inverted in the third episode "Open Wide, O Earth" of Chernobyl: Deputy KGB Chairman Charkov repeats the old Russian proverb, "trust but verify", then remarks on the irony that the Americans believe Ronald Reagan thought it up. In fact, it is a traditional Russian saying, that Reagan adopted as a catchphrase in nuclear disarmament talks with the Soviet Union, after an American academic repeated it to him. | |
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Red Dwarf A to Z includes a segment with two Daleks who claim that the works of Shakespeare and Beethoven's symphonies were written by Daleks. | |
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There are dozens of musical tunes on YouTube attributed to Vangelis, including The Gael by Dougie MacLean (!) in which more than one respondent cites the synth-pop maestro's work as "proof of Greek greatness." | |
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Thanks to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, fans have actually put on a theatrical production of Hamlet in actual Klingon in Washington, D.C. | |
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An aversion of a literal example. In the Frasier episode "Star Mitzvah", when Frasier is tricked into thinking his blessing to his son Freddie at his bar mitzvah is Hebrew when it's actually Klingon. One of Freddie's friends translates it for him, and adds, "It's much more beautiful in the original Klingon." | |
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Babylon 5: G'Kar mentions that the humans have a saying, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." He then plays the trope straight by saying that they probably stole it from the Narn. Justified: it's heavily implied (and in one case, outright stated) that other alien races had been altering aspects of Narn culture to suit their plans, G'Kar has no hard evidence that it didn't originate with his people. The few humans he knows, however, do not seem to fit this philosophy, but it fits his own remarkably well (at least at first). A major aversion, in the form of "Swedish meatballs". When an old friend arrives on the station, G'Kar prepares Swedish meatballs. His friend asks, in wonder, how he got this Narn delicacy all the way out here. G'Kar admits that these are a Human dish called Swedish meatballs, and not the extremely similar Narn equivalent. It appears that almost every humanoid species eventually created something similar to this dish. Apparently, the Vorlons really, really like Swedish meatballs. |
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"Shakespeare in the original German" goes back at least to 1941 when it was used in Leslie Howard's "Pimpernel" Smith ("But you must at least admit that the English translation is marvellous!") It was, of course, a parody of the idea, dating back at least to WWI, that Shakespeare was racially "Aryan," even if not an actual German himself. Similar claims were made for Michelangelo and Leonardo. (No, not the turtles.note They're Russian) note It should be noted, many German speakers who know perfectly well that Shakespeare is quintessentially English and have no truck with Nazi racial theory still think German translation improves Shakespeare. The dubious theory has it that German is simply the better-suited language in which to express his ideas. It also had to do with the fact that for a time in the 19th century, German appreciation of Shakespeare was at least as great if not greater than the one in Britain. As G. B. Shaw recalls, before World War I there was an effort in Britain to found a national theatre in honour of the tercentenary of Shakespeare's birth, for the financing of which he himself wrote a play, The Dark Lady of the Sonnets: "After some years of effort the result was a single handsome contribution from a German gentleman." | |
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In Carry On, Freddy does this with Shakespear and the original Crocutan. | |
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Invoked in Starship Troopers, when a South American soldier jokes that Simón BolÃvar "built the pyramids, licked the armada, and made the first trip to the moon." The main character, a Filipino, jokes back that he forgot marrying Cleopatra. They then discuss that every country has its own version of history. | |
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