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Is there a worse job to have than being a messenger for a major villain? The hours are long, the pay is low, your boss thinks that the world revolves around them, and likes to abuse their men for fun, and remember that dental plan that led you to join in the first place? Yeah, that got cancelled last year. And then there's the very worst part of being a Big Bad's messenger: bring them a message with bad news, any bad news, (even just something small like that their mother is running 10 minutes late for the party) and they'll flip out, fly into a rage, and kill you. Why? Because you're the closest thing to them when they get the bad news, and you're expendable. Maybe it's time to see if the heroes need some extra help or a new sidekick, or... something. Anything! The origin of the trope leads back to ancient Greece at least. One possible theory (besides the king being affected with Pride) is that the messenger was a defeated or losing general's son, and that his death was punishment for failure. It's also such a common cliché that the Evil Overlord List took time to specifically mention it. By the way, remember when we told the worst part was bringing your master some bad news? We lied. The worst is bringing someone else a message from your master. Such as an ultimatum. The recipient is guaranteed to reply "Screw Your Ultimatum!" in a non-ambiguous way, and by "non-ambiguous", we mean by sending your head back. Also note that even the "good guys" might do this, especially Anti Heroes. Its depressing regularity in the ancient world led to the first rule of international law: Diplomatic Immunity. In the end, everyone (even Genghis Khan, who destroyed multiple empires) thought it was just a little unfair to the messengers. In fact, Genghis Khan wiped out one of those empires because they killed some of his messengers. When villains do this, it is generally done as a subtrope of You Have Failed Me and Bearer of Bad News, and is a way to Kick the Dog by killing the person who annoys you despite their innocence. When heroes do this (to enemy diplomats, NEVER their own servants), it's because the messenger was a bad guy anyway, so why not murder him? Some shows make the messenger look and act particularly evil, e.g. threaten the characters with death or worse, to avoid the negative aspects of this trope (see also: "Ass" in Ambassador). He may even psychologically torment and provoke them by showing them what happened to those who said no. In particularly stupid moments, a villain might execute a messenger immediately for disturbing him, before he gets a chance to deliver his news. And because of what we said earlier about how even anti-heroes may get in on the act, if you're in a story featuring Black-and-Grey Morality, do whatever it takes to get out of delivering a message. If you do wind up having to deliver some bad news or an ultimatum in such a work, your life expectancy is probably slightly shorter than that of a guy standing on top of skyscraper in a thunderstorm who's also saying "What's the worst that could happen?" Guys, the messengers are coming in peace. Doing this may also be violating a tradition of Sacred Hospitality, which only adds to the sense of outrage it provokes; this played a role in Genghis Khan's destruction of the Khwarizmi, mentioned earlier. "I'm just the messenger" is a stock phrase used to remind people that this trope isn't really fair, and is fairly likely to work. Not to be confused with Please Shoot the Messenger, where the recipient is actively instructed by the message to kill the person who delivered it, or Don't Shoot the Message, where the work's message is muddled by a bad delivery. Aggressive Negotiations may well include this trope as part of said "negotiations". Overlap with Offing the Annoyance is likely. Compare Offing the Mouth, which would be something like "Shoot the Deadpan Snarker". Contrast Mook Depletion, where the villain can only afford to have one messenger. Compare: Shoot the Television and Spare a Messenger. Examples |
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In The Otherworld Series, Queen Lethesanar rips out the hearts of some messengers who report a prisoner's escape. | |
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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Voldemort reacts to the news that Harry has stolen a Horcrux from a supposedly impregnable vault by having a Villainous Breakdown and casting the Avada Kedavra not only on the messenger, but everyone in the room (though this was also to keep knowledge of the Horcrux secret). | |
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The Salvation War When Satan sends his Heralds to Earth to deliver the scrolls proclaiming their damnation, mankind generally responds to their arrival with violence. This has less to do with actually shooting the messenger and more "Holy shit there's a fifteen-foot tall demon coming this way KILL IT!" Except in Singapore, where the police shot the messenger dozens of times and beat it to death with the butts of their guns for littering when it threw the message scroll on the pavement. One US president advisor points out that killing the demonic Heralds, who were effectively diplomats, was a war crime. However, President Bush countered that the US has never signed any treaties with Hell, so it isn't a war crime. Interesting variation in Armageddon???. A demon bringing bad news typically isn't shot: he's eaten by the demon he brought the news to. Not surprisingly, the priority of these messengers is try and avoid getting offed. Whether or not the one they report to is hungry seems to be part of the equation, however. The only exceptions are Satan's own Greater Heralds, who were protected from all harm. The fact that the humans killed his Heralds is a sticking point. The prevalence of this is such that Abigor choosing to not only not threaten to do this, but encouraging the messenger to keep working in spite of his injuries, is regarded as a significant piece of Character Development. Also inverted with Yahweh, wherein his general Michael-lan deliberately attempts to phrase the bad news he gives in such a way so as to cause Yahweh to throw the most spectacular temper tantrums possible, complete with multi-colored flashes of lightning that rip the marble facing from the walls (though they never actually seem to kill anybody, Michael included). It's made clear that Michael quite enjoys these displays and is the only one who isn't afraid of them. |
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The Jade Warlord does it to a messenger in the movie The Forbidden Kingdom. | |
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In Hitman: Blood Money 47 kills an innocent postal worker as he is a potential witness. | |
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X-Men: In Uncanny X-Men Annual #5, the Badoon King shoots a goon dead for coming to inform him their troops have been routed by the X-Men and a local uprising. | |
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Let the Galaxy Burn: When the ancient Dornish ambassador told Rhaegar of his sector's declaration of war, Rhaegar ordered Arthur Dayne to kill the man. Aegon is so well known for doing this personally that his inner circle keeps choosing random shmucks to deliver any bad news. |
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In Blood Simple, Julian Marty tells Loren Visser about the ancient Roman practice of killing the Bearer of Bad News when the PI delivers photos of Marty's wife and her lover in flagrante delicto. Not only does Visser laugh off the posturing, he casually (later on) inverts the trope. | |
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Angel: After taking over Wolfram & Hart, Angel sends a lawyer to inform a powerful necromancer that they won't be supplying him with fresh corpses anymore. Said lawyer is returned in three buckets. A Justified Trope as he was trying to either scare Angel off or anger him into a direct confrontation. | |
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Kröd Mändoon and the Flaming Sword of Fire: Dongalor does this when one delivers him bad news. Then he's informed there was good news too, and says the man should have said it first. | |
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It's A Dangerous Business, Going Out Your Door: The Pronghorn Network actively seek to subvert this trope, primarily by practicing good manners so as not to upset the people they're delivering news to. | |
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Aragorn beheading the Mouth of Sauron in The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King after he mocked them about Frodo's fate. In the book, he recoils from Aragorn's Death Glare and says, "I am a herald and ambassador and may not be assailed!" Gandalf points out that 1) nobody has actually threatened him, and 2) regardless of Diplomatic Immunity, it's still a good idea to act with more tact than the Mouth of Sauron has been. | |
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Assassin's Creed Syndicate takes this trope literally. After Jacob kills Pearl Attaway, Big Bad Crawford Sterrick (who had a thing for her) is seen mourning her by performing a sad song on the piano. When a servant enters the room to give him an update, he barely gets one word out before Sterrick blows his head off. | |
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In The Simpsons episode "Margical History Tour", Homer plays a Henry VIII who demands so many decapitations the castle runs out of pikes to put the heads on. After one of his servants (Moe) informs him of this, despite knowing what the king usually does to the bearer of bad news, we cut to an empty pike storage room. The king admits he was right, and the servant's detached, but still living head is consoled by such. | |
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Horrible Histories: In this sketch, courtiers are forced to carefully tiptoe around Henry VIII when it comes to matters like his latest marital issues. Two courtiers have found out about Catherine Howard's infidelities. Knowing that they can be put to death if Henry is in a bad mood, they have Will Somers break the news in the form of a comedy routine. When he comes back out, he says it should be effective in three, two, one... cue Henry calling for the courtiers to fetch his executioner. The trailer for the Pausanias movie has the messenger Pausanias sends to King Xerxes wonder why none of the other messengers Pausanias has sent to Xerxes have ever returned. He discovers the message is full of treasonous offers, and ends with an instruction to kill the messenger after reading the message. |
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Battle Beyond the Stars. A Proud Warrior Race responds to Sador's demands by returning his emissary as a jar of powder. A furious Sador destroys their entire planet to encourage the others. | |
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He-Man and the Masters of the Universe (2002): In a flashback, Hordak is informed by his general Callix that their forces have been depleted by battle with the Snakemen, and they must recoup their strength before laying siege to Castle Greyskull. Hordak agrees wholeheartedly and applauds Callix for his sound military advice... then he casually kills him for delivering bad news. | |
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8-Bit Theater: King Steve jokingly ordered a guard to kill a messenger. He took it seriously, and every time the storyline goes back to Corneria, the messenger is still being chased. Even in the very last comic (set three years later). On another occasion Steve, having lost the kingdom to his imaginary right-hand man, says "the old king" was known for killing messengers who gave him bad news. Or good news. Or no news at all. "Some say he was quite mad, you know." |
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Genocide Man: At one point, the head of the Genocide Project, Kevin (who is also a Genocide Man himself), killed a scientist with his bare hands for bringing him bad news before tea, with Lola only finding out when she asks why exactly they're taking vital strategic information to her instead. This is the last straw for her, and she decided Kevin had outlived his usefulness, taking him out immediately afterwards using a gun the scientists designed for that specific purpose. | |
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In A Protector's Pride, Zommari arrives to tell Cazador (Hollow Ichigo) that Orihime is being held prisoner in Hueco Mundo. Cazador thanks him and then attempts to kill him. However, Zommari is too fast for him and easily escapes. | |
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This is taken to the next level in the backstory of The Curse of Chalion; a crazy enemy general tells the messengers that one of them will have to kill the other. Cazaril refuses to take part, denying the villain his fun, but the other messenger, Dondo, tries to go through with it. The general stops it, and releases them both, knowing that Dondo's frantic attempts to hide the truth of his cowardice will do more to Cazaril than he could. | |
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Arrested Development: In Season 1 Episode 9, Lindsay Bluth Fünke makes this a Discussed Trope when she advises her brother Michael Bluth not to be the bearer of bad news to his love interest. Her exact words: "It's called 'Shoot the Messenger'." | |
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In The Awakening of a Magus, after Voldemort reads a servant's mind to see the amount of power channeled during the Hogwarts Ritua, he grows so angry he executes the guy after several minutes of torture. | |
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Scrubs: Parodied in one of J.D.'s imagine spots. | |
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In The Broken Day, when a Hydra agent comes to tell Hela that Harry has been retrieved from the temporal storm, when he tells Hela that the agent responsible delayed reporting this to her because was trying to cover his ass, Hela muses that they clearly expected her to invoke this by killing the agent for delivering the bad news. However, Hela defies this idea by instead promoting the agent to act as her liasion because she acknowledges his respect for her. | |
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Dilbert Parodied in an early strip. Prior to giving his presentation, one of Dilbert's superiors assures him that they "don't shoot the messenger". Dilbert then proceeds to tell them the bad news that their idea is doomed to failure with Brutal Honesty, adding that they will probably be mocked for their stupidity and fired. One of them actually pulls out a machine gun begging to be allowed to wing Dilbert, but is reminded that they "don't shoot the messenger". Instead, they Tar and Feather him. Also referenced in a comic strip involving a "Scape Goat", literally. He is shot by the PHB, who clarifies he was aiming for the messenger. Dilbert suggests it was the Scape Goat's fault for standing there. |
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In Shinra High SOLDIER, Tseng shoots a messenger who merely reported that Julia, Sephiroth, and Reno should report to Hojo to get new mako injections. He's just injured, but Tseng forbids him from seeking medical attention until he returns to deliver a counter-message to Hojo. | |
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Windhaven's folklore gives us the Mad Landsman, who murdered the messenger who told him of his son's death. Unfortunately (for him), the messengers in this universe are the primary means of communication, and when they boycott his kingdom, it withers away. Don't screw with the union. | |
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Windhaven | hasFeature |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_400469e | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_400469e | comment |
In a Calvin and Hobbes strip, Calvin lampshades this trope when he is sent to the principal's office for shouting "BORING!" to his teacher's lecture. | |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_400469e | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4037825e | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
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Happens so many times in Romance of the Three Kingdoms that it's eventually Lampshaded when Liu Bei writes a letter to Guan Yu to inform him of where he was, "but there was no one to take it." Then there's this exchange years and many chapters later... | |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_41b0198a | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_41b0198a | comment |
Subverted in The Dresden Files novel Ghost Story by a Fomorian servitor named Listen. He expressly demonstrates awareness of this trope and gave zero fucks about either outcome. If he lives, he can continue serving his inhuman master. If he is killed, his master has plenty more to replace him. The mad necromancer to whom he was delivering the message let him live precisely because he genuinely didn't care whether he lived or died. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_41b0198a | featureApplicability |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_43e07277 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_43e07277 | comment |
According to Gesta Danorum, King Gorm of Denmark vowed he would kill anyone who brought him the message that his favourite son Knut was dead. When Knut is killed, nobody dares to tell Gorm. Queen Thyra has the royal hall hung with black cloth and when Gorm asks about the reason for this, she replies that his favourite falcon has died. Gorm immediately understands the true sense of her words, without anyone having to tell him. | |
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Gesta Danorum | hasFeature |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_4508f43d | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4508f43d | comment |
In the first Shogun: Total War, if the rival faction you're sending an emissary to really hates your guts, your emissary may come back to you missing everything from the neck down. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4508f43d | featureApplicability |
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Shogun: Total War (Video Game) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4508f43d | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a059a74 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a059a74 | comment |
The Mandalorian. An off-screen version is played for Black Comedy in "Redemption" when Moff Gideon kills one of his men for interrupting him. Because of this no-one is willing to approach Gideon to tell him that his stormtroopers have already captured The Child, and so he can wipe out the heroes at his leisure. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a059a74 | featureApplicability |
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The Mandalorian | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a059a74 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a95c600 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a95c600 | comment |
In her first scene in The Wiz, Evilene sings a whole song about how she will do this to anyone who brings her bad news. After she finishes, the first thing her henchman do is bring her bad news. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4a95c600 | featureApplicability |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_4a95c600 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4b25c8a6 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4b25c8a6 | comment |
This sets off the plot of The Duellists. An officer is sent to inform another officer that he's been placed under house arrest for dueling. He feels he's been insulted and challenges that officer to a duel, leading to an ongoing feud that lasts for decades. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4b25c8a6 | featureApplicability |
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The Duellists | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4b25c8a6 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4cc26f53 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4cc26f53 | comment |
Ravnica Cycle: When Teysa Karlov first arrives in Utvara, she summons all the major guild representatives to meet with her as their new baroness. Zomaj Hauc, the local Izzet magelord, is too busy and sends an envoy to meet with her in his stead. Teysa takes offense to this, as the Orzhov consider it a sign of weakness to meet with lackeys, so she decides to send a message by blowing the envoy's brains out out at the end of their meeting. | |
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Ravnica Cycle | hasFeature |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_4da11f30 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4da11f30 | comment |
In Return of the Jedi, Jabba the Hutt gets extremely angry at C-3P0, slapping him and spewing muck at him, in response to Boushh's actually Leia in disguise unreasonable payment demands for Chewbacca's capture. In fact, according to one of Jabba's minions, he is very prone to this, having disintegrated the last protocol droid they had after being enraged by a translation it made. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4da11f30 | featureApplicability |
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Return of the Jedi | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4da11f30 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4fd9904a | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4fd9904a | comment |
But in Order of the Phoenix, before Voldemort started to lose his cool, he responded to the news that his plan to steal a prophecy from the Ministry of Magic could not have worked by thanking the messenger and promising to keep him in confidence. The man who furnished him with flawed information, however, gets the Torture Curse... | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4fd9904a | featureApplicability |
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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_4fd9904a | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_502cbd09 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_502cbd09 | comment |
Luke Cage (2016): Played for Laughs when Koko suggests that Cottonmouth use "benign neglect" on Luke Cage, who has just taken over 80% of his money. After Koko gives this big speech about practicing it, Cottonmouth just pulls out a gun and shoots him in the head. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_502cbd09 | featureApplicability |
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Luke Cage (2016) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_502cbd09 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50a9ace1 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50a9ace1 | comment |
Popeye: In Issue 10 of the IDW series, Wimpy goes to tell Popeye that Olive Oyl and Toar may be having an affair, but before he can do so, Popeye, who was earlier blown off by Toar and Olive, says, "Lissen — I ain't got no pals an' I ain't got no sweetie! An' th' next swab what brings me bad news is goner get a punch in the kisser!" Wimpy wisely chooses not to say anything. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50a9ace1 | featureApplicability |
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Popeye (Comic Strip) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50a9ace1 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50b9a0e2 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50b9a0e2 | comment |
The Phantom of the Opera: In the original book, the standard method of solving any problem by the Opera administrators, Pointy Haired Bosses Richard and Moncharmin, is to fire those employees involved in it (including those that informed of the problem). Only those with enough influence can escape. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50b9a0e2 | featureApplicability |
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The Phantom of the Opera | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_50b9a0e2 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_524e2e3b | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_524e2e3b | comment |
Donald Duck once took a job as a messenger and the first person he delivered a message to was so furious she started throwing stuff at him. It wasn't the matter of the news being good or bad. She just hated the sender and took it out on Donald. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_524e2e3b | featureApplicability |
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Donald Duck | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_524e2e3b | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_526d4c5c | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_526d4c5c | comment |
Defied in Knights of the Old Republic. Saul Karath informs Darth Malak that the bounty hunter Calo Nord have been killed trying to stop the Player Character and is kneeling in a manner like he's expecting to be executed. Malak (who we need to remind you previously had an entire planet carpet bombed in order to stop one person) tells him that the price for failure is death, but that was Calo's problem and not Saul's. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_526d4c5c | featureApplicability |
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Knights of the Old Republic (Video Game) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_526d4c5c | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_55f5c3aa | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_55f5c3aa | comment |
Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom: As lord of an ancient Chinese city, you have the option of executing emissaries from another city, though this serves no purpose other than to ruin your reputation abroad and make it much more expensive for you to send emisarries to that city, since they rightfully fear for their lives. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_55f5c3aa | featureApplicability |
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Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom (Video Game) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_55f5c3aa | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5638af93 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5638af93 | comment |
RAID: World War II has cutscenes that play when you strike a successful blow against the Nazi war machine. All involve Adolf Hitler throwing a tamper tantrum including one where he yells at the guy bringing him the report to get out and then throwing a hand grenade at him, before realizing he's not at a safe distance and diving for cover. It's oddly satisfying. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5638af93 | featureApplicability |
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RAID World War II (Video Game) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5638af93 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5755b96a | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5755b96a | comment |
In The Order of the Stick, the Oracle gets killed now and then by clients who don't like the predictions he gives them, though he fortunately can arrange his resurrection well in advance. According to him, the next time he dies would be when a big druid tears him apart after confirming to him that his wife was cheating on him (with his intelligent-boosted animal companion yet). | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5755b96a | featureApplicability |
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The Order of the Stick (Webcomic) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5755b96a | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_58ca0d4e | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_58ca0d4e | comment |
In Enemy of My Enemy, Brute High-Chieftain Torikus does this a lot, and he does it very brutally. One scene describes an unfortunate messenger's skull fragments spread across the area around Torikus after a particularly bad development for the Brutes. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_58ca0d4e | featureApplicability |
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Enemy of My Enemy (Fanfic) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_58ca0d4e | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59c939c6 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59c939c6 | comment |
One Nodwick comic has the protagonists delivering a message on behalf of the human king Zarunig to the elven king whom he is at war with. The message turns out to be a Hope Spot where Zarnuig offers to make the elven forest a nature preserve where no humans will hunt or cut trees... then specifying that as the protected species of this preserves, all elves will need to wear ear tags so their mating behaviors can be more easily studied. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59c939c6 | featureApplicability |
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Nodwick (Webcomic) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59c939c6 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59da62aa | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59da62aa | comment |
Fallout: New Vegas: Despite the fact that you are a Courier, and you do get shot, in your case it's really more of a simple robbery than this trope. Caesar has made it clear in no uncertain and very violent terms that couriers and traders in his realm are to be left the hell alone.note the reason for this is that Courier makes an excellent cover story for an undercover Frumentarius As the player character are themselves a Courier, depending on how you play, this can bite him squarely in the ass. When Vault 11 first closed its doors, the Overseer informed the citizens that there had to be a human sacrifice once a year, or else the computer system would kill everyone in the vault. The angry citizens promptly forced the Overseer himself to be the first sacrifice as revenge for giving them the bad news, which began a tradition of sacrificing the Overseer every year. Whoever was elected to replace the previous Overseer got to be in charge for a year before sacrificing themselves. |
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Fallout: New Vegas (Video Game) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_59da62aa | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5a18fcd | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5a18fcd | comment |
Turn Signals on a Land Raider gives us this Chaos daemon prince. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5a18fcd | featureApplicability |
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Turn Signals on a Land Raider (Webcomic) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5a18fcd | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5bd0554b | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5bd0554b | comment |
Warcraft novels: Towards the end of Rise of the Horde, one of Thrall's human spies arrives to Orgrimmar to bring news of the arrival of the draenei. While pondering the (terrible) news, Thrall notices that the man is shaking in fear and realises he is afraid of getting killed. He orders his guards to get him food and water while musing about how unwise killing messengers is, for it only causes people to hide the bad news until too late. Granted, Thrall isn't a villain, but most orcs are seen as such by humans. Magatha, on the other hand, plays this straight in The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, killing the orc who brought her a message from Garrosh saying that he won't support her because he found out that she poisoned his weapon during his duel with Cairne. She even seizes the letter rather than let him read the letter aloud after the first indication of Garrosh's refusal. |
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Warcraft (Video Game) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5bd0554b | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5c897f4a | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5c897f4a | comment |
Schlock Mercenary. When Ennesby asks not to be killed for the news he's about to relate, Captain Tagon and Kevyn Andreyasn immediately draw their guns (admittedly Ennesby isn't very popular with them at that stage). In the end they settle for shooting off the motivator Ennesby uses to float around. | |
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Schlock Mercenary (Webcomic) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5c897f4a | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d588cfb | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d588cfb | comment |
In Season 4 of The Celebrity Apprentice, Marlee Matlin's sign language interpreter got his head bitten off a few times while interpreting for Marlee during arguments with her fellow contestants. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d588cfb | featureApplicability |
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The Apprentice | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d588cfb | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d844f37 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d844f37 | comment |
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland: The Red Queen outright says it when Tweedledum reveals to her that Tweedledee has betrayed them to work for Jafar. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d844f37 | featureApplicability |
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Once Upon a Time in Wonderland | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_5d844f37 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_62a9e8b5 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_62a9e8b5 | comment |
Ultimate Vision: One of the scientists reminds Tartleton that the Northern Directorate will not approve of his merging with the Gah Lak Tus unit. He kills him. Another one points out that there's a problem with the power supply. He kills him as well. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_62a9e8b5 | featureApplicability |
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Ultimate Vision (Comic Book) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_62a9e8b5 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6300d32a | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6300d32a | comment |
In 300, King Leonidas and the Spartans execute a Persian messenger and his armed escort for insulting their kingdom while bringing Xerxes' demand for "earth and water" as a token of submission to the empire, telling him that he'll find plenty of both down in the well, where they then proceed to throw them down. Which is kicked off (literally) by Leonidas yelling "This! Is! SPARTA!" The best part? The real Leonidas actually did this. Leonidas did give him a fair warning, though, pointing out that he may be a messenger, but, in Sparta, each man is responsible for his own words. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6300d32a | featureApplicability |
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300 | hasFeature |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_6457caa7 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6457caa7 | comment |
The lynchpin of Aegon's Conquest of Westeros according to The World of Ice & Fire. Initially, Aegon aimed to cement an alliance with King Argilac Durrandon of the Stormlands by offering an Arranged Marriage between his daughter and Aegon's bastard half-brother Orys after Argilac asked for Aegon himself to marry her. Aegon believed this to be a reasonable counteroffer, since Aegon himself was already married, Orys was his Best Friend and a great general, and half-Targaryen besides. Argilac took it as an insult. The outraged Argilac removed the hands of Aegon's messenger and said "these are the only hands your bastard would have of me". Aegon decided that the time of dialogue was over, declared that Westeros is his and demanded all the petty kings to submit to him or face destruction. | |
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The World of Ice & Fire | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6457caa7 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6ac55ec7 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6ac55ec7 | comment |
Dungeons & Dragons: Red dragons frequently employ other creatures as spies and messengers in order to keep abreast of world events, but take reports with extremely poor grace and do not hesitate to kill or eat servants who bring them bad news. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6ac55ec7 | featureApplicability |
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Shoot the Messenger / int_6ac55ec7 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6cb2d709 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6cb2d709 | comment |
Harry Potter Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Voldemort reacts to the news that Harry has stolen a Horcrux from a supposedly impregnable vault by having a Villainous Breakdown and casting the Avada Kedavra not only on the messenger, but everyone in the room (though this was also to keep knowledge of the Horcrux secret). But in Order of the Phoenix, before Voldemort started to lose his cool, he responded to the news that his plan to steal a prophecy from the Ministry of Magic could not have worked by thanking the messenger and promising to keep him in confidence. The man who furnished him with flawed information, however, gets the Torture Curse... |
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Harry Potter (Franchise) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6cb2d709 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6d6ccc60 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6d6ccc60 | comment |
Moongobble and Me: In book 1, Moongobble gets some bad news from Flitbert the bat, who promptly squeaks at him not to blame him (with the implication that he fears Moongobble would do this) — he just brings the news, he doesn't make it. Fortunately, Moongobble isn't the sort to do that kind of thing. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6d6ccc60 | featureApplicability |
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Moongobble and Me | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6d6ccc60 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6f702e08 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6f702e08 | comment |
Towards the end of Rise of the Horde, one of Thrall's human spies arrives to Orgrimmar to bring news of the arrival of the draenei. While pondering the (terrible) news, Thrall notices that the man is shaking in fear and realises he is afraid of getting killed. He orders his guards to get him food and water while musing about how unwise killing messengers is, for it only causes people to hide the bad news until too late. Granted, Thrall isn't a villain, but most orcs are seen as such by humans. | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6f702e08 | featureApplicability |
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Rise of the Horde | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_6f702e08 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_71a2d83d | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_71a2d83d | comment |
The Vampire Diaries: Damon Salvatore explicitly states that he believes in shooting the messenger for the express purpose of sending a message to the person sending the bad news, if that person is his enemy. | |
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The Vampire Diaries | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_71a2d83d | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_738eb11d | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_738eb11d | comment |
The Ganymede Takeover. Gus Swenesgard sends one of his minions to contact the Black Muslim resistance to offer a We Can Rule Together deal. They dump his naked corpse back in Gus's territory with the words WE DON'T NEED YOU, WHITE MAN carved on his back with lasers. | |
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The Ganymede Takeover | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_738eb11d | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_74c378a4 | type |
Shoot the Messenger | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_74c378a4 | comment |
In Antony and Cleopatra, a messenger tells Cleopatra that Antony has remarried, so she threatens to more or less play football with his eyeballs, among other nasty things. This trope even gets lampshaded by a messenger in an earlier scene. |
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Antony and Cleopatra (Theatre) | hasFeature |
Shoot the Messenger / int_74c378a4 | |
Shoot the Messenger / int_75149ccd | type |
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Inverted in X-Wing Series: Solo Command. General Melvar has to bring Zsinj some very bad news: not only has a deathtrap failed to kill Wraith Squadron (or even any of its members), but they have managed to take one of his key personnel alive. Zsinj has an epic Villainous Breakdown where he destroys practically everything in his office but the person who brought him the bad news. | |
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Paranoid Mage brings us Archmage Fane who is well-known in his house for doing terrible things to people who bring him unwelcome news. He's only marginally better with close relatives. So when he sees one or both of a certain pair of nephews, he knows it's bad news. | |
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Cat Planet Cuties does this in the first episode when Aoi shoots a messenger... or, rather, shoots in the general direction of a messenger. She purposely missed, just because she felt like scaring the crap out of the dude. Though this was less because she was upset with the message he brought and more with the fact that he'd dickishly brought it to her in broad daylight, violating contact protocol and interrupting the nice time she'd been having with Kio. | |
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In a Wing Commander novel, Prince Thrakhath forced a messenger to commit ritual suicide. Semi-justifiable because the reason was not because of the bad news, but the way the messenger delivered it, running through the ship and looking distressed, which would cause rumors and morale problems. Once Fridge Logic kicks in though, you wonder why a messenger is needed on a space ship rather sending than the message electronically, and realize the scene exists solely to show that Thrakhath is the type to Shoot the Messenger. | |
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A non-lethal version occurs in A Bridge Too Far. An intelligence officer discovers that German tanks have been deployed in the Arnhem area. When he brings this to the attention of his superiors, he's politely told that he's been working too hard and put on sick leave. | |
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The Heartstrikers: Julius is woken up early to deal with a UN delegation, and he grumbles about why they didn't wake up his mother, who (until he deposed her a few days previously) has ruled the clan for a thousand years and typically handled diplomatic meetings personally. Frederick says that the last time the UN sent a diplomat, Bethesda ate him. | |
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Tachyon: The Fringe has a memorable moment with Baron Hajod, who sent out a proposal for alliance to Baroness Onrald (and it's heavily implied that the alliance would have involved a political marriage). Jake Logan is tasked to deliver Onrald's response back to Hajod. Her recording to Hajod starts with blatant sarcasm that he fails to notice—it's only when the other shoe drops and she rejects him with a blistering "The Reason You Suck" Speech that Hajod finally realizes he's been insulted the whole time, calling for his slave fighters to kill Jake in retaliation for bringing him a recording full of insults. Fortunately Jake is an Ace Pilot and manages to escape (and later send a strongly worded message to Onrald herself for putting him in such a sitution without forewarning—Onrald merely brushes off the criticism and ups Jake's hazard pay). | |
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Neverwinter Nights: The opening cutscene for the "Hordes of the Underdark" expansion shows the Valsharess learning of a hero who is prophesised to defeat her and ordering her Court Mages to perform an augury to learn their identity. When she realises the hero is a surface dweller, she's so outraged that she kills the head wizard in charge of the ceremony. | |
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Gargoyles: During a storyline in the comic continuation taking place in 10th century Scotland, Constantine has a messenger from the Grim's opposing army killed, in blatant defiance of the rules of war. Given that the messenger wasn't even delivering bad news, merely giving the time the Grim's forces would meet them for battle, it seems he did this for little reason more than to throw his weight around as king. | |
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Paper Towns: Upon finding out her friend Margo's boyfriend is cheating on her, Karin breaks the news to her. Margo freaks out and takes her anger out on Karin, calling her a liar and insulting her appearance. To her credit, when she's had time to clear her head and realizes Karin was telling the truth, she feels absolutely terrible about the way she acted. She actually name-drops the trope when she tells Q about this, and ends up leaving Karin a bouquet of flowers in apology. | |
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Dragon Ball Abridged has put a twist on two of the scenes mentioned for Dragon Ball Z above. In the scene involving Freeza, the henchman comes in, reports on the arrival of the Ginyu Force, and Freeza seems content to let him be, but then the henchman also announces that due to Freeza's tendency to kill them on a whim, the rest of his men have decided to form a union. Freeza says that decision is "Adorable" in a mildly amused voice, then promptly kills the henchman without even turning to face him. In another episode, a messenger doesn't even get to say what the news is before Freeza blasts him. Freeza was just looking for a way to get out of the awkward conversation he was having with his minion Zarbon (where it looked like he was going to have to admit that he thought Zarbon was gay). King Vegeta, meanwhile, kills his messenger out of annoyance when he feels the messenger gave a smart-mouth, Mathematician's Answer to a question King Vegeta asked. A non-fatal variant is discussed when Krillin asks Chichi what she would do if she were told that her husband was dead and her young son had been kidnapped by her husband's worst enemy. |
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Averted in Final Fantasy IV. When Kain delivers the message to Cecil that Golbez will trade the Earth Crystal for Rosa's life, the messenger is allowed to leave unharmed, and before that, the white flag raised by the enemy airship is respected. | |
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In Act V, Scene v of Macbeth, a messenger comes to Macbeth with news of Birnam Wood: | |
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I, Claudius. After Emperor Claudius' wife commits adultery and treason, Claudius' advisers worry this will happen to them, so they choose a courtesan who's a favorite of the emperor to deliver the initial bad news, before nervously entering the room to confirm what she's saying. | |
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Justified in the 1997 adaptation of Ivanhoe when the recipient realizes that it's politically expedient to pretend he never received the message in the first place. The messenger tries to avert his fate by asserting that his master awaits his safe return. He dies anyway. | |
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Rome. In the first season, Marc Antony makes a point of punching a Smug Snake messenger into a pool after he (eventually) decides to refuse his offer to betray Caesar. In Season 2, Marc Antony bullies Cisero into making him governor of Gaul. On the day the motion is to be passed Cicero fails to turn up at the Senate, instead sending a speech to be read into the rolls, a denunciation of Antony that's so insulting the other senators immediately flee the room. The trembling speaker is told to finish reading the speech by an outraged Antony, who then beats him to death with the scroll. | |
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Popeye once got a furlough from Navy duties and spent it with his nephews. Their antics were so unbearable that, when he got news about a new furlough, he reacted by shooting the messenger. Literally. | |
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Discussed and defied in the Infinity Crisis spin-off In Hand and Foot; when Wilson Fisk receives bad news about his recent plans, once the messenger reveals that he just drew the short straw to tell him what has happened, Fisk asks him who did make the relevant decisions and lets the messenger leave. | |
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Animorphs: Visser Three, all the goddamn time. This actually works to the heroes' advantage; as no-one wants to tell the Visser something that might set him off, his underlings frequently omit useful info out of self-preservation. | |
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Battletech: During the First Succession Wars, the upper echelons of the Draconis Combine found themselves in the position of having to report the assassination of Coordinator Minoru Kurita to his Ax-Crazy eldest son Jinjiro. The task of informing him went down the ranks, until a suitably brave sergeant called Richard Tobiason was volunteered to inform the new Coordinator. Jinjiro is said to have listened to the news in utter silence, then called his Number Two, General Sorai, to his office. Jinjiro left his quarters alone a few minutes later, ordering his staff to promote Tobiason to the rank of colonel and for someone to clean up the mess in his office. In it, the staff found Tobiason, still alive, and the beheaded and disemboweled corpse of Sorai — Jinjiro had ordered the latter to commit seppuku for not having the guts to tell him in person, and had personally acted as Sorai's kaishakunin. | |
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The Wheel of Time: After getting news from a minion that her ex-lover had slept with someone else, Lanfear tears the messenger's skin off and goes on a magical rampage. Inverted when a messenger from Sammael hears Rand say no to an offer of truce. The messenger then starts oozing blood from every pore and dies. One person wonders how the bad guy will know what Rand's answer was, another says, "Very likely how he died will let him know." |
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In Colonization, other Europeans present in the New World will honour your scouts and allow them to perform diplomatic actions, even if they are at war with you (except for the Royal Expeditionary Force, naturally). Meanwhile, if you are at war with any native group, they will kill any scout sent to their settlements. | |
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The Sun Soul: In chapter 22, during the Celadon Civil War, Mayor Vicar sends a messenger to Princess Erika's side, telling them to surrender. If Erika's side loses, there will be no mercy for them — so they had better surrender now while they still can. Brock, on Erika's side, steps forward, yells 'IF!', and signals his army to attack. The messenger ends up with two big ugly arrows protruding through his chest, promptly falls off his Rapidash, and dies. Quite literally a case of Shoot the Messenger. | |
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Gladiator. The Germanic tribes respond to a demand that they submit to the Roman empire by sending the headless Roman envoy back to the legionnaires tied to his horse, while their chief appears on a hill, shouting at the Romans and tossing the head of the messenger to the ground. | |
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Disney's Mulan. Two Imperial scouts have been captured by Shan-Yu. He mockingly congratulates them on finding his army, then gives them a threat to take back to the Emperor. As they run away: | |
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Daredevil: "In the Blood": With Matt Murdock causing problems for the Russian gang, Anatoly and Vladimir Ranskahov decide to accept Wilson Fisk's offer of support to their criminal venture. After seeing that Matt has made short work of the guys who had kidnapped Claire, Anatoly personally goes to Fisk to tell him that he accepts the deal.... and ends up interrupting Fisk's date with Vanessa. Fisk is so pissed off by this intrusion of his privacy that he proceeds to beat Anatoly unconscious, then decapitate him with a car door. Then Fisk sets in motion the machinations to eliminate the rest of the Russians, including Vladimir. "Reunion": Fisk beats one of his own dirty FBI bodyguards to death for telling him that Ray Nadeem has gone rogue and helped Karen Page escape from Dex. |
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A Song of Ice and Fire. Harming envoys is regarded as taboo, so when one of Queen Daenerys' dragons singes the robe of an impertinent emissary, this is used as propaganda against her, saying she had the man burnt alive. Tyrion sends an envoy with an armed escort to negotiate peace terms including the release of his brother Jaime. Hidden among the escort are several men with the skills to break Jaime out of his cell. When the escape fails, Lord Edmure has all those who participated hung from the walls of his castle, and the rest thrown into the dungeons. The King Beyond the Wall sends a messenger inviting Craster to join his army (which of course would mean submitting to his authority). Craster sends back the man without his tongue, which he nails to his wall. The lynchpin of Aegon's Conquest of Westeros according to The World of Ice & Fire. Initially, Aegon aimed to cement an alliance with King Argilac Durrandon of the Stormlands by offering an Arranged Marriage between his daughter and Aegon's bastard half-brother Orys after Argilac asked for Aegon himself to marry her. Aegon believed this to be a reasonable counteroffer, since Aegon himself was already married, Orys was his Best Friend and a great general, and half-Targaryen besides. Argilac took it as an insult. The outraged Argilac removed the hands of Aegon's messenger and said "these are the only hands your bastard would have of me". Aegon decided that the time of dialogue was over, declared that Westeros is his and demanded all the petty kings to submit to him or face destruction. |
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Averted in the Island in the Sea of Time series when William Walker is approached by a nervous messenger who's clearly bringing news of disaster. Walker calmly explains to the messenger that he's not going to harm him, but when something bad happens he's got to know right away, or else it's like being blind. | |
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Sophocles' Antigone has a messenger who spends a long time trying to avoid giving Creon bad news out of fear that this trope will be played straight, even pointing out that Polyneices was only technically buried. In the end Creon merely threatens to torture him to death. By the standards of ancient Greek tragedy, the scene is very funny. | |
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In Futurama episode "Love and Rocket", the Planet Express crew deliver a barrel of candy hearts to Omicron Persei 8 with the message that "Earth loves you thiiiis much!" the chalky-candies taste bad to Omicronians, and the cutesy messages upset them. The crew has to flee the planet chased by battleships. | |
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Though intended as an act of defiance, the rest of the Greeks were horrified, as messengers were thought to be under divine protection, and harming them meant bringing down the wrath of the gods. Herodotos, writing from decades later, thought that the destruction of Athens at the hands of Xerxes' army was not a severe enough punishment for their deed. The Spartans, meanwhile, could not get good omens from their sacrifices for years and, in desperation, sent two volunteers to Xerxes' court to beg for execution, which the king turned down. | |
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The Lost Medallion: The Adventures of Billy Stone: Cobra asks his advisor why the magic medallion won't work for him. Sensing trouble, the advisor tells him two lies: first, that the moon must be full, and then that the medallion must be worn a specific way. Cobra tells the advisor that if he tells the truth, no harm will come to him. The advisor, clearly hesitant, says that the medallion only works on those who have a kind heart. Cobra's response is to grab his neck and kill the advisor with his poisoned fingernails, say, "Why would you say a thing like that?" and then demand a new advisor to replace him. | |
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In Day of the Evil Gun, Addis sends his Indian scout to negotiate with the Apaches to exchange the stolen payroll for the two wagons of ammo. The Apaches respond by sending back the scout's body. | |
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With the Extended DLC for Mass Effect 3, if you shoot the Catalyst, it answers back in a booming voice "SO BE IT" and decides that you have rejected its choices, thus causing an "ending" that is functionally a Non-Standard Game Over. | |
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In the Ravenloft novel Knight of the Black Rose, Strahd and a rival Dark Lord send servants that they are displeased with to carry messages to each other, knowing that the messengers will be tortured horribly and eventually executed by the other dark lord. | |
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In one episode of Rocky and Bullwinkle, Fearless Leader had an agent executed for telling him that the only available spy for his plan was Boris. Even worse, this happened right after Fearless Leader told him he wouldn't get upset over being told the news. | |
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Parodied in Robin Hood: Men in Tights, in which the gaoler mentions that "good news is always rewarded and bad news is severely punished." Guess which kind he ends up delivering... | |
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Prayer of the Faithless: The Empire of Vergio tried to put Serra Cadmus to death for telling the prophecy of the Vanguard of Ruin, since such terrible news would cause panic. | |
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Kid Radd, Crystal will zap anyone who gives her any news, good or bad, "because it's fun." Note that she does not kill them. She'd run out of messengers that way, and well, when that happens, how else will she entertain herself? | |
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Clue the movie is all about this. Wadsworth points out directly that "everyone who's died gave vital information about one of [the guests]." Ironically, the last informant who is killed is a delivering a singing telegram shot at the front door. | |
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Lampshaded in Beerfest. Only instead of shooting the messenger, they sidestep the technicality by suffocating him with beer hoses. | |
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Spider-Man: A running theme for years was goons working for The Kingpin were in mortal fear of having to deliver bad news to their boss, as Wilson Fisk was infamous for killing anyone at the slightest provocation. Averted in an issue of The Punisher when one guy has to relate how the Punisher escaped a trap. |
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Saving Private Ryan: When Miller's team makes first contact with airborne troops in a French village, they need to contact the company captain who's on the other side of the village. A runner is sent, but he doesn't make it a hundred feet before he's shot. Reiben asks in shock why even though he's down, the enemy keeps shooting him. | |
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Another Way: Marquis knows that Lung is likely to kill whoever comes and passes on the message that Marquis has returned to Brockton Bay to take back what was his. So, the chosen messenger is the one ABB member present who's over eighteen and had just threatened Marquis' daughter. | |
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Spartacus: Blood and Sand: In "Spartacus: Vengeance", this is how Ashur is killed. The Big Bad sends him to give offer a deal to the good guys. If they had accepted, they would have needed to let the messenger return, but they refuse the offer and only send back the messenger's head. The Big Bad isn't surprised, but he was getting tired of having the guy around anyway. In "Spartacus: War of the Damned", when the rebels capture the city of Sinuessa en Valle, a guard manages to escape, find the Roman army, and inform them of what happened. Even though it is pointed out he did the smart thing because if he had stayed, he would have surely been killed and the army would not have learned of the takeover, Julius Caesar angrily calls him a coward and kills him on the spot. |
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Black Moon Chronicles: Very common in this setting. When one faction sends a messenger to another faction, they usually end up dead. One of Ghorghor Bey's men is turned into a frog by the master of a sorcerer's stronghold after demanding their surrender. Fratus Sinister and his corrupt cronies at the head of the order of the Knights of Justice shoot (with arrows) upwards of 20 imperial messengers one after the other. A variation in that they're shot before they even deliver the message, as Sinister want to keep plausible deniability as to why he didn't commit his forces to the absolutely massive battle taking place against the Big Bad's decoy forces (Fratus wants to take over the Empire, see). This bites him in the ass later on, as the savvy emperor isn't fooled, and Fratus gets a humiliating demotion from the Empire's aristocratic pecking order. Wismerhill and his friends respond to a representative of the empire demanding that they hand over the Barony of Moork to its newly appointed lord by having the messenger roasted by a baby dragon and served up for dinner—their own, not the dragon's. |
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A heroic example, from Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone: In this case, not only was there no actual shooting, but also the messenger was more of an informant who got punished for breaking the same rules he snitched about. |
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In SpongeBob SquarePants episode "Vikings", when SpongeBob sent a letter to a Viking leader, he had the Viking delivering the message sent to the dungeon for interrupting his story. | |
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Warhammer 40,000: This is typically played straight by Chaos, but actually Averted by the Dark Eldar: Scourges (individuals who have been modified to have wings) are highly valued by the various kabals for being couriers as well as flying troops, so the kabals tend to come down hard on anyone who makes a habit of messing with them. | |
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In Manzoni's The Betrothed, the Podestã&; and Count Attilio have an argument about chivalry, Attilio thinks it's legal and moral to beat a messenger who carries bad news, especially if the message is the challenge to a duel. | |
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The Wizard of Id: Lampshaded when the King, aware that his incompetent knight Sir Rodney is bringing news of his defeat, reminds him of the old Roman custom in which those bringing good news were rewarded with wine, women and song, whereas the bearer of bad tidings was put to death. A sweating Rodney replies with the 'joyous' news that one of the King's more awful provinces with its rebellious peasants, stinking swamps (etc, etc) has been given to the Huns to worry about. In another strip, the Wizard sends a bird to deliver a message. However, the recipent fires on the bird before he can deliver it. |
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In Hitman (2016) an unnamed antagonist shoots an unidentified businessman after he is given "the key". | |
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In the Belgian series Papyrus, the Pharaoh sent the titular character to announce a string of bad news to the King of Crete: his son died and the Cretan diplomatic envoy perished in a sea storm, along with a sacred bull given as an offering. Angered and outraged, the King punished Papyrus to the arena. | |
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Warhammer: Skaven leaders usually kill the messengers — the always kill the messengers of bad news, but sometimes also off ones bearing good news to keep their rivals from hearing it as well. | |
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Subverted in a regularly recycled Beetle Bailey gag: The officers receive a written order from the general, and it has one obvious spelling error that changes the meaning completely. Someone will point out what the general probably meant to say, but then someone else will always ask: "But who dares to tell the general that he made a mistake?" While the general probably wouldn't shoot anyone for pointing out one little spelling error (probably...), the answer is always the same: Nobody dares to tell the general that he made a mistake. They prefer to follow out the order, exactly the way it's written, and look like idiots, rather than telling the general to make a correction. | |
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In House of the Dragon, Daemon Targaryen is waging war against pirates in the Stepstones when he learns hat his brother, King Viserys, is sending reinforcements. Since Daemon wants to deal with the pirates himself, he's so angry to hear this that he starts beating up the messenger who informed him of this. | |
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A Team Fortress 2 comic reveals that the RED team is rather guilty of this. | |
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Averted in an issue of The Punisher when one guy has to relate how the Punisher escaped a trap. | |
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In keeping with Road to Perdition's Black-and-Gray Morality, Michael Sullivan does this to a messenger sent to bribe him out of revenge. For reference, the messenger was completely unarmed and nonthreatening. Of course, given that Michael himself had been set up for a Please Shoot the Messenger situation by the guys the messenger is representing less than 10 minutes earlier in the film, and that the messenger in question was sent to represent the interests of the Psychopathic Manchild responsible for the deaths of his wife and son... his reaction is somewhat understandable. | |
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Asterix: In Asterix and the Goths, Metric tells his interpreter that if their Gaulish captive, Getafix, will not show them magic, the interpreter will be killed as well. When Getafix refuses, the interpreter lies, not realizing that Getafix speaks Gothic. | |
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While in Abyssinia Flashman is not happy to hear that The Caligula into whose territory he's about to go undercover has executed a messenger by hacking off his limbs and then twisting the arteries shut so it takes him a long time to bleed to death. | |
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Blake's 7. In "Volcano", Servalan has secretly landed on a neutral planet, and orders two men sent to her with a message from a local traitor killed so they won't tell anyone of their presence. In fairness the stakes were pretty high, as there was a Doomsday Device on the planet which the locals had threatened to detonate if the Federation attempted a landing. | |
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Apparently Conan the Barbarian is deemed likely to do this trope. In The Devil in Iron, the plot involves a Beautiful Slave Girl acting as a Honey Trap to lure Conan into a trap. | |
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In the opening cinematic of Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, Baal and his army approach the gates of Sesscheron. A lone herald is sent out to address him. The herald eventually musters up his courage and defiantly refuses Baal entry to the city and declares that he will never reach Mount Arreat and the Worldstone. Baal's response is to calmly tell him he will take his proposal "into consideration". He then summons tendrils of demonic energy that go inside the herald and make him pop like a grape. Baal then mockingly says "it seems your terms...are not acceptable." And laughs and laughs as his army storms the city. | |
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In Saint Seiya Omega, Pallas gets so angry when she's told that one of her generals has disobeyed her orders that she vaporizes the unfortunate Mook who is reporting the situation to her. The poor man tries to tell her that he's only informing her of what he saw, to no avail. | |
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The Rise of Phoenixes: Chang Zhong Xin literally shoots Ning Yi's messenger. | |
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In The Warlords film starring Jet Li as Pang Qingyun and Andy Lau as Zhao Erhu, a new army called Shan led by the two main characters are sent on a mission with inferior numbers to attack and claim the territory of a much larger army with much more weapons and firepower. The odds are against them, and the opposing army sends a messenger to tell General Zhao that the odds are against them and they can't win. The General pulls out his sword and slices the messenger's neck without a word, then he and his men charge in for the attack. | |
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Karate Bears: One of the bears kills the messenger by presumably ripping his heart out | |
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Lucius Malfoy in The Rigel Black Chronicles reflects on the fact that Tom Riddle doesn't, as a rule, kill messengers, and clings grimly to that, when passing on the news of "Rigel" forgiving Riddle for once again interfering at Hogwarts, and suggesting that he stop making long-term plans as he keeps messing them up. | |
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The Sandman (1989): Defied. Morpheus sends a messenger to Lucifer that he intends to travel To Hell and Back to free Nada's soul. Knowing that Lucifer will Shoot the Messenger, he sends the Biblical Cain as his envoy, since Cain is marked by God and not even the forces of Hell can kill him. Lucifer still manages to hurt and terrify Cain, but notes that anyone else would have returned "with his liver in his mouth". Death, personally, dislikes this trope, feeling that on the long run, it only means less mail. |
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The Han Solo Trilogy: Discussed and averted. Han feels nervous about being messengers to Jiliac from Zavval, when the former might take out his displeasure about the message on them. Jalus reassures him the Hutts all agreed not to do this, however, because it caused them loss of profit from a breakdown in communication, and he's right, as Jiliac doesn't harm either one, just sends them back with a blistering retort. | |
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Magatha, on the other hand, plays this straight in The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, killing the orc who brought her a message from Garrosh saying that he won't support her because he found out that she poisoned his weapon during his duel with Cairne. She even seizes the letter rather than let him read the letter aloud after the first indication of Garrosh's refusal. | |
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The Book of Boba Fett Averted in the first episode, when newly-established crime boss Boba Fett demands tribute and pledges of loyalty from the local bigwigs. The mayor of Mos Espa refuses to turn up and sends his majordomo to shake him down for a bribe. Fennec points out that Jabba the Hutt would have had the majordomo Fed to the Beast for his insolence, but Boba settles for threatening him, as he doesn't think killing a lackey would accomplish anything. In the final episode, the majordomo offers to negotiate a surrender to the Pyke soldiers surrounding them. Boba pretends to agree and hands him a datapad with his terms of surrender. As he starts to read it to the Pyke Syndicate Mook Lieutenant, the majordomo realizes to his growing dread (and the Pykes' rising anger), that Fett's "terms of surrender" basically amount to "Sod off or I'll kill you". The Pykes are turning their blasters towards him when Boba and Din fly up on jetpacks and start shooting, having planned the whole thing as a distraction. Surprisingly, the majordomo survives this battle as well. |
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In the game Castles 2, you can do this to any messenger of any count (and the Pope). Killing them got you into bad blood with the opposite party, but threatening to kill them and then letting them go lets you off scott free. | |
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Dragon Age II: During the quest "Offered and Lost", Seneschal Bran explains he hasn't told the Arishok his delegate's gone missing because "I'd be signing the messenger's death warrant." Sure enough, if you decide to inform him yourself... | |
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Towards the end of Eldest, the second book in Inheritance Cycle, a messenger arrives from The Empire's troops and orders the members of the Varden to surrender or "suffer the doom of your herald," then presents the severed head of the Varden's messenger. Eragon asks Nasuada if he should kill him, but Nasuada replies that she will not violate the sanctity of envoys, even if the Empire has. Shortly after, Eragon's dragon Saphira lets loose a mighty roar and the Empire's messenger is knocked off his steed, then roasted in a burst of flame that erupts forth from the Burning Plains. | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Lampshaded when Riley goes to stake Spike for tipping off Buffy that he'd been seeing vampire prostitutes. Of course Spike was hardly an innocent bystander delivering a message, but deliberately set out to end their relationship because he had designs on Buffy himself. Fortunately for him Riley uses a plastic stake. A vampire goes to a bar and informs all the monsters there that Buffy is M.I.A., so the town of Sunnydale is largely unprotected. The leader of a demon biker gang thanks him, then casually rips his head off his shoulders with his bare hands, simply because he asks to ride with them and demons just don't like vampires. Despite having spent most of the episode talking instead of fighting Buffy kills Holden Webster after he drops the bombshell about Spike siring him, even though Spike has a soul and an inhibitor chip that should prevent him from harming humans. Due to a scene cut we don't see if it was because Holden attacked or in a violent response to what he said, but Buffy's position as Holden's dust swirls around her is the same, implying that it happened immediately afterwards. |
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Hawk the Slayer. Hawk fatally injures Drogo, but spares a couple of his soldiers to carry him back to his father Voltan. The grieving father kills them both the moment his son dies. In fairness, he does insist they be armed first. | |
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Diabolik: Regularly Averted, as no matter how bad the news given to Diabolik and Eva, the two Villain Protagonists won't take it out on the messenger unless the messenger is actually and willfully responsible for it. Best shown when Diabolik had been blinded in an explosion and the doctor Eva had kidnapped to cure him said he couldn't be cured, as Eva simply let him go... Until she discovered the man held Diabolik responsible for his brother's suicide, at which point she interrogated until Truth Serum, found out he could have cured him with a corneal implant, and made him the donor. | |
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Encanto: It turns out Bruno's gift of prophecy made him unpopular in town, as he only seemed to predict bad things happening and people tend to blame him for the predictions coming true. | |
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Relative Disasters: Qin Er Shi had a habit of doing this. | |
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Prosecutors from the Ace Attorney series have a habit of punishing the salaries of police officers who bring them bad or unwanted news — sometimes even just for bothering them at all when they're busy. Series Butt-Monkey Detective Gumshoe has the loss of his ever dwindling salary and resulting Perpetual Poverty as a Running Gag. | |
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Averted in the Star Wars Legends novel "Death Star" when a lieutenant was so afraid that Darth Vader would kill him that while delivering a message he was barely able to hold it together until Vader used the Force to mind-trick that lieutenant into not being afraid of Vader while delivering the message. Legends novels often stated that giving Vader bad news (or even any news if he's in a bad mood and doesn't wish to be disturbed) is potentially deadly, which is why staff officers tended to draw lots to see who would deliver a message to him, with the honor going to the loser. | |
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Paperinik New Adventures: In the 11th issue, an Evronian idiom by the great Warrior Poet Zartas says "The ambassador of my enemy is my enemy,why spare him?" Which says a lot about the Evronian race as a whole. | |
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In Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey-Maturin series, this is inverted in that messengers bearing good news will be "much caressed" by the Powers That Be back in England. (Given how the series works, that makes this Truth in Television.) Stephen Maturin then uses his powers of persuasion to see to it that Aubrey, though screwed out of his victory by a spotlight-stealing admiral, still gets chosen as the messenger and thus gets a plum command. | |
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Dragon Ball Z: King Vegeta in a flashback ended up blasting his messenger to smithereens after he reported that they had to wait three days before attacking a planet because of the full moon coinciding around that time. It's implied that he was more irritated that he can't get the job done in good time to keep Frieza off his back than the actual failure. A henchman of Frieza's arrives to announce that the Ginyu Force has arrived. As soon as he's finished, Frieza promptly vaporizes him with Eye Beams. In this case, Frieza was killing the bearer of good news because he didn't need him anymore. Babidi wants revenge on Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten and has Majin Buu start destroying cities until they show themselves. Since Babidi doesn't know who they are, he gives a general description to the citizens while demanding they give them up. A World Martial Arts Tournament staff member named Marvin recognizes the description and reveals the three heroes' names. Babidi calls him a fool and says he doesn't care what their names are before killing the guy on the spot. |
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While overzealous fans and mean-spirited trolls towards video game developers and game journalists are nothing new, there are people that will take it to the next level by sending death threats or the like towards anyone that gives a game a bad review or if a game developer does something the fans doesn't like. No Man's Sky, which was in development for a few years, was announced that it wouldn't be able to meet its original release date. The reporter that made the delay known to the public was slammed with death threats for delaying the game, despite the fact that he had nothing to do with the delay at all. When a PR from the developers confirmed that the delay was true, he received death threats as well. | |
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Star Trek: Voyager: Referenced in the episode "Relativity". Commander Chakotay approaches Captain Janeway with a ship's status report and Janeway comments "Before you say anything, let me remind you what happens to bearers of bad news." "Don't kill the messenger," replies Chakotay, holding up his hands in mock fear. Janeway relents and Chakotay proceeds to report on the sorry state of Voyager and its systems. | |
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Lara Croft: Tomb Raider – The Cradle of Life. Jonathan Reiss gets Chen Lo to steal the orb map showing the location of the doomsday plague he's after. Lo's minion shows up with a crate, but when Riess opens it there's no orb; just a mobile phone. Riess has the minion killed on the spot and uses the phone to call Lo, who wants to negotiate a higher price. | |
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Queen Celestia seems to spend a large amount of her time in Twillight Sparkle's awesome adventure shooting messengers. | |
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Close to the end of The Pilo Family Circus, the accountant makes the mistake of delivering a letter to Kurt Pilo during his Villainous Breakdown. Ironically, the note was actually good news, containing the names of all the members of the Freedom Movement, but Kurt wasn't in the mood to read it until after he'd ripped the accountant's head off. | |
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Repo! The Genetic Opera: Rotti Largo has the doctor who told him he was terminally ill executed. | |
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In Hellsing, Alucard blasts Schrödinger when he comes as a messenger to a Hellsing conference (of course, Schrödinger survives that, thanks to his "quantum physics" abilities). | |
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In Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, the three-country Laguz Alliance sends a messenger to the Begnion senators demanding answers to a crime they are accused of namely, the Serenes Massacre. This trope, then big war. | |
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In The Sword of Truth, Prince Harold is killed for delivering the message that his sister the queen intended for her country remain neutral. By the good guys, of course. And his half-sister thanked her allies for doing it, because they can't show mercy to their "enemies". | |
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In Lupin III: Dead or Alive, General Headhunter's opinion seems to be that this trope is "cut the head off of the messenger". Not even for bringing him unexpected news: just bringing the news that he might already expect is dangerous if he's already in a bad mood. | |
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Old Mortality: Claverhouse sends his nephew Richard Grahame to ask the Covenanters to surrender. Burley shoots him in the middle of his message. This backfires on Burley when it motivates the royalists to avenge Grahame. | |
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Revolution: In the episode "Home", Monroe had a messenger sent to tell Miles to come to the town of Jasper alone, or he'll kill everyone there, starting with Miles's high-school fiance Emma Bennett. The messenger's ultimate fate is not stated, but considering that the main characters had to torture the contents of the message out of the guy, his survival is quite unlikely. | |
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In the Justice League Unlimited episode "Chaos At The Earth's Core", Evil Overlord Deimos disintegrates a minion who reports that the heroes have arrived. | |
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One episode of Cold Case had a Mad Bomber killing the people he blamed for his misfortune, but at least two of his victims (a store manager and a physician's assistant) weren't actually responsible for the things the bomber was upset about; both cases involved a policy that was clearly put into place by someone much higher up, and the victims were just the ones whose job it was to tell the bomber about it. | |
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