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Ramses is a 2007 Italian animated film, made by Mondo TV. It focuses on Egyptian Pharaoh Ramses I, father of Seti I and grandfather of the more famous Ramses II, during his military careerer under Horemheb, last Pharaoh of the 18th Dynasty.After Egypt defeats would-be conquer King Suppiluliuma of Hittie, and turns the tables on them, his son plots revenge. After the murder of several officials, Ramses investigates the conspiracy. | |
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A Father to His Men | |
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A Father to His Men: Horemheb is this to his men. Pa-Ramses outright calls him his, which Horemheb actually chides him on, saying it was disrespectful to his biological father, Seti, who was a good friend of his. | |
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The Quisling | |
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The Quisling: Bey and his son, who where secretly recieving bribes from Hittie and continue to help them after they lose the war. | |
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Noble Bird of Prey | |
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Noble Bird of Prey: Falcons are frequently shown flying around Egyptian settlements, and attending the protagonists. | |
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Child Soldier: Seti I accompanies his father on a mission, despite being at most a teenager. And ultimately ends up killing the Big Bad. | |
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Beard of Evil | |
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Beard of Evil: Suppiluliuma has one, as do most Hittite soldiers. His son grows one after a thirty year Time Skip. | |
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Vocal Dissonance | |
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Vocal Dissonance: So much in the English dub. Despite taking place in early Iron Age Africa and Middle East, many characters speak with European accents. The High Priest of Amun noticeably speaks in a very thick Scottish accent. Addition, Seti I sounds like an adult despite being fairly young. | |
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Foregone Conclusion | |
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Foregone Conclusion: The film focuses on a well-known Pharaoh before his accends to the throne. Guess what happens at the end? | |
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Artistic License – History | |
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Artistic License – History: Ramses is depicted as Horemheb's son-in-law, married to a fictional daughter, rather than his vizier. This would mean the 18th dynasty would have extended to Twosret. Ovid is mentioned by one of the characters, despite the film taking place over a thousand years before he was born. Horemheb is depicted reigning at least 30 years. In real life, he reigned 27 to only 14. | |
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Time Skip | |
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Time Skip: A thirty year one near the ending. | |
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Starter Villain | |
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Starter Villain: King Suppiluliuma appear at the begining, but is killed in battle. His son then takes over as Big Bad. | |
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For Want of a Nail | |
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Ramses is depicted as Horemheb's son-in-law, married to a fictional daughter, rather than his vizier. This would mean the 18th dynasty would have extended to Twosret. | |
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Posthumous Character | |
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Posthumous Character: Seti (Ramses' father) and Ay, who die before the events of the movie proper. | |
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Artistic License – Religion | |
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Artistic License – Religion: Amun-Re and Ra are mentioned as seprate Gods, despite Amun-Re being a Fusion Dance God already including Ra. (Re being an alternate spelling.) | |
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Evil Chancellor | |
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Evil Chancellor: Bey, who was in Suppiluliuma's pocket before he died, and serves as The Dragon to his son after he does. | |
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Good Shepherd | |
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Good Shepherd: The Egyptian clergy is portrayed this way. The High Preist notably unable to be bought by Bey, despite his attemps at bribing him, and an oracle of Hathor is a good friend of Horeheb. The only possible exception are the preist over seeing the mummification where the villain meet to discuss their plan, and even then they may have been unaware since they hid in the back away from them. | |
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Historical Relationship Overhaul | |
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Historical Relationship Overhaul: Horemheb here speaks of Ay glowingly. In Real Life, Horemheb had most of Ay's records expunged along several other of Akenaten's successors, implying that he probably hated him. | |
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Hoist by His Own Petard | |
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Hoist by His Own Petard: Pa-Ramses forces Bey to eat the poisonous plant he used to murder numerous Egyptian officials. | |
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Starts with Their Funeral | |
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Starts with Their Funeral: The film starts with funeral of a Pharaoh. It's ambiguous whether it's Ay, Horemheb, or Ramses' funeral. | |
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The Good King | |
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The Good King: Horemheb is portrayed this way as Pharaoh. As is Ramses when he asscends. | |
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Meaningful Rename | |
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Meaningful Rename: Ramses goes by the name Pa-Ramses for most of the film. After becoming Pharaoh, he drops the "Pa" from his name. This happened in Real Life as well. | |
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Magic Realism | |
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Magic Realism: For the most part, the film is a Historical Fiction and political thriller mostly grounded in reality, except a scene in the begining, where a Hittite soldier kills a falcon, which falls to the ground dead. It then comes back, with its eyes glowing, and flies back to the Egyptian army. It's heavily implied to be Horus in animal form. | |
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