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Rules are made to be broken, and that goes double for these rules. Basically, rules are given which are less instructions for keeping order and safety, and more a Secret Test of Sneakiness. It's understood by all parties that the rule is not to be followed, and the only question is whether you can break it without getting caught. It is thus a common way to "win" an Unwinnable Training Simulation (which may or may not be the point). Or maybe it's just one person who thinks that way. After all, even if the rules are supposed to be followed, you can't be penalized for breaking them if nobody knows you did, right? This sometimes takes the form of an admonishment not to cheat on an upcoming game/test/whatever, which comes so out of the blue that it can only be interpreted as an encouragement to cheat. Compare Could Say It, But.... and Stepping Out for a Quick Cup of Coffee. Take it further and you realize Real Life history is Written by the Winners. Compare Can't You Read the Sign?, "Not Illegal" Justification, and Do Wrong, Right. Sometimes the villain in What You Are in the Dark, or the foolhardly fellow teenager in Youth Is Wasted on the Dumb urges this trope to encourage something actually wrong. An invoked form of Screw the Rules, They're Not Real!, in that the rules are set up to encourage people to break them skillfully. Note that regardless of what The Casanova might say about the other kind of "cheating", it's nothing to do with this trope. |
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BattleCON has the bonus character Mark PTO, who has cheating as a passive ability. Getting caught doesn't actually stop the cheating, instead the opponent figures out what you changed by cheating, then it gets undone. | |
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As seen in Trading Places, using misappropriated or "insider" information to invest in commodities (as opposed to the stock and bond market) was not illegal at the time, although a government courier could still get in trouble for unauthorized release of government information. In the aftermath of the 2008 recession, the law that changed this, Section 136 of the Wall Street Transparency and Accountability Act,note also called the Dodd-Frank Act was enacted in 2010, and informally known as "The Eddie Murphy Rule". The chairman of the Commodities Futures Trading Commission specifically referred to the film when first publicly proposing the rule change. | |
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A Thousand and One... Americas: After a corrupt businessman in the twentieth episode gets defeated by Chris, Lon and a friendly goldsmith they met prior (Undapawa), he warns them that he can frame them for having commited fraud with him regarding a prior trade between food and some gold statues (no such fraud happened, the evil man is deliberately devising a false proof to make his blames more convincing), as he has contacts with powerful chiefs who trust his words and don't know about his deceptions. Too bad one of those chiefs saw him attempt to do Chris and co. dirty from the distance, which leads to the evil man's exile from the tribe and the trading business. | |
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This trope is bread and water for a certain kind of Munchkin. In the game of that name, it's actually an explicit rule. | |
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In Monsters University, the second round of the Scare Games involves retrieving a flag in the library without getting the attention of the librarian. It's eventually found out that anything goes as long as none of your teammates actually get caught by the librarian. | |
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This also happens retroactively, usually when a title change or other "major" event happens around the time of a contract ending or injury/suspension or the like, and is explained as "going over the rules/results more closely." One of the most infamous involved the Rockers (Shawn Michaels and Marty Janetty) defeating the Hart Foundation (Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart) for the tag-team championships. Unfortunately, during the 2-out-of-3 contest, one of the ring ropes broke, which led to an ugly mess of a match that would be virtually impossible to clean up for television; between that and the then-WWF firing Neidhart shortly thereafter, the titles were given back with the explanation of an "obscure rule" involving broken ring equipment and was never even referenced on TV as if the Foundation never lost them.note The match is on the Shawn Michaels: Heartbreak & Triumph DVD for those wondering what raw footage of a pretty bad match looks like, as they didn't even try to clean it up. At one point this was sort of a holy grail of wrestling video, as everyone assumed that the WWF/E had buried or destroyed the tape. | |
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Suits: The law firm pretty much runs on this trope. Harvey and Jessica get away with a lot because they are usually too smart to get caught or they are only caught when it is too late to do anything about it. On the other hand, this makes them very arrogant and gets them into serious trouble when they overshoot and get caught breaking the rules. When trying to win over Mike, Louis explains that Harvey is disdainful of the law and does everything he can in line with this trope. Meanwhile, Louis loves the law and does everything he can within the rules, even he sometimes has to get those rules rewritten (such as when he manages to win an eminent domain case against a restaurant, something thought to be impossible). |
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In Honor Harrington, it's mentioned that Saganami Island Naval Academy's computer network has a backdoor that allows enterprising students access to a restricted tactical database for study. Getting caught isn't punished (a student brings up a restricted battle report to Honor during one of her classes), but the instructors on the Island quietly keep track of the backdoor's access log and look favorably on students who are sharp enough to find the backdoor and study the restricted materials. | |
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In It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, The Gang has a board game they created called CharDee MacDennis; cheating is punishable if caught, but still highly encouraged. | |
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Danganronpa: Paradise Lost: In Chapter 4, Kenji bribes Monokuma into helping them set up the circumstances that lead to that chapter's murder. After this is exposed, Monokuma makes clear that he would have let them get away with it so long as they weren't caught. But since they were, the Killer Teddy Bear punishes them by stabbing him several times, including once in the eye, before leaving him for dead, not expecting the other students to subject him to Cruel Mercy. | |
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old light still slants through: Izuku balks at Tsuna's suggestion that he practice with his Dying Will Flames by using them to clear trash off the beach, since using Quirks in such fashion is considered illegal. Tsuna replies that he can just use this an opportunity to practice his Hyper Intuition as well. | |
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In Winx Club, the Cloud Tower School for Witches allows its students to cause trouble for other schools as long as they are not caught out. | |
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Horrible Histories talks about the (supposed) Real Life example of the Spartans in "Spartan School Musical". Stealing is okay, what's wrong is getting caught! | |
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A flare in the original version of Cosmic Encounter gives its owner a similar power: if you have the filch card in your hand, you can filch cards from the draw deck or discard pile, and reclaim your own destroyed ships, as long as nobody sees you do it. If you're caught, however, you have to put what you stole back, and an extra ship of yours is destroyed. The most recent remake includes this card as an optional variant. | |
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Eddie Guerrero lampshaded it (his most popular entrance music flat-out told everyone that "I lie, I cheat, I steal!"), and later in his career took to inverting it. The method he used which has endured the most is to grab a chair and hit the mat with it while the ref's back is turned, before tossing the chair to his opponent before the ref turned around and quickly feigning being the recipient of a brutal chairshot. Despite rules stating that the ref has to see the chair shot happen in order to call a DQ, this worked on multiple occasions, including his last match before his death. | |
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In Naruto, during the Chunin exams, the ninjas-in-training are given a written test with the unusual rule that they cannot be caught cheating more than four times. So, needless to say, all of the skilled students discreetly use their ninja skills to do so without getting caught. Which is, of course, the entire point, as the test is absurdly difficult (Sakura is the only one who actually knew any answers) and two planted fake students were given the answers ahead of time. Naruto himself, however, unwittingly engaged in Loophole Abuse due to the aforementioned nature of the exam. Since he never attempted to cheat, he was never caught, and thus passed the exam on those grounds — even though he never even tried to answer one question. In addition, the rules had been laid out so that a student loses points for wrong answers, not that they earn points for correct answers. So a blank sheet of paper counts for full credit. The whole thing was in fact a Secret Test of Character: the examiners were testing the candidates' espionage skills, and then with the all-or-nothing last question, their willingness to take on a Suicide Mission (accepting the opportunity to answer the question in the first place is a passing grade). | |
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In the third chapter of Fullmetal Alchemist, Ed transmutes waste into gold, claiming that "If we don't get caught, we won't get caught." Immediately afterward, he double-crosses his accomplice by reversing the transmutation; since the transmuted gold was a bribe of shady legality, the person he gave it to can't report Ed for swindling him without admitting his own corruption. | |
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Time Stop Hero: Kuzuno Sekai uses his Time Stands Still ability to interfere with a volleyball tournament to make sure his friends win. Some of his friends find out what he is doing and call him out, but he says that since no one else notices and would not be able to prove it if they did, he'll be fine. He later finds out another team is cheating by having an invisible girl interfere with the ball similar to what he was doing by noticing her footprints on the sand and splashes oil on her to get that team disqualified. | |
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Jeff Winger on Community runs basically the entire spectrum of amorality tropes. One of the more egregious examples is him creating fake classes to earn credits. He has to attend Greendale College because he got caught cheating in a way that his law firm could not ignore: he got his undergraduate degree from an uncredited diploma mill and when this was reported to the bar association, his license was suspended. | |
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It can also happen by taking away a title change without the win. In one NWA title match, Dusty Rhodes had seemingly beat Ric Flair for the title despite interference by Arn Anderson and a ref bump to Tommy Young. A second ref came out to count Rhodes' pinfall, but Young overturned it on the next week's show, saying he had been prepared to call for Flair's DQ as soon as Anderson entered the ring, but hadn't been able to. | |
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The developers of Dawn of War 2 have a philosophy that a good A.I. opponent can cheat (otherwise they're too easy), but a great A.I. opponent can cheat without the player noticing. | |
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Paranoia officially prohibits players from even knowing the rules. In the game universe, there is a security-clearance scheme that uses the light spectrum, starting with infrared and going all the way up to ultraviolet. These clearances (most characters are red-cleared) govern everything — and we do mean everything the character is allowed to access, read or tread upon. The very rules are available only at ultraviolet clearance. Being caught with or demonstrating knowledge of anything above the character's clearance is grounds for summary execution. Therefore, if a player metagames blatantly (such as "I'm going to hide behind a rock because it will give a half-cover penalty to my attacker"), the proper response for a Paranoia GM is to ask in character as Friend Computer: "You are red clearance, Citizen. How did you come by this knowledge?" Then wait as the other characters fall over each other to execute the errant character for treason. It's that sort of game. With five backup clones, this in practice is more a warning to the player than a bolt of purple lightning. The player-facing (red-clearance) sections of the rulebook do cheerfully suggest to players that if they're going to read the ultraviolet rules (as it is universally assumed they will), at least keep their metagaming subtle, as in Paranoia, part of the point of the game is trying to invoke Not Cheating Unless You Get Caught on pretty much everything. On the other hand, published adventure modules, though also given the ultraviolet-clearance conceit, often have much more sincere disclaimers to players begging them to not read the adventure so as to not have the surprises spoiled for them. | |
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The Many Dates of Danny Fenton: Danny and Kara shows that Mr. Lancer usually overlooks Dash's bullying because Dash is a football star, but not when a victim threatens to have it published at the Daily Planet. | |
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In Dauntless (Allora Gale), Lelouch cheats at poker by counting cards. However, he does this with the full expectation that everybody else playing is doing the exact same thing. | |
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In Harry Potter's Triwizard Tournament, cheating is a more or less accepted tradition that every single side engages in. When Harry (who was entered into it against his will) tells Cedric that they're up against dragons in the first task, Moody doesn't bat an eye. Though given that "Moody" isn't Moody at all and has ulterior motives for wanting Harry to win, the reader has to use their own judgment about accepting his word on this. | |
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What If Videl Was A Z-Fighter?: During Videl's match with Spopovich, Yamu hits her with a ki blast that only the other Z-Fighters are able to see. Since the judges couldn't detect it, Spopovich doesn't get disqualified. | |
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Toriko's Gourmet Casino arc lives and dies on this trope. Coco's future-seeing abilities allow him to effortlessly win practically all of the casino's games. Livebearer, the arc's Big Bad, on the other hand, runs a game that is designed to give him every advantage he can think of. | |
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In Freefall, Sam thinks life in general works like this, since you get punished for getting caught. | |
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In King of the Hill, Buck Strickland hits his golf ball into a rough patch, and "trips" over it, knocking it back onto the green. When Bobby, his caddie, asks if it's cheating, he replies, "Ain't no law 'gainst bein' clumsy. 'Less you get caught." Later, after he makes another bad, far-off shot, he orders Bobby to go find the ball, slipping him a golf ball and whispering, "Find it someplace good." | |
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Married... with Children: Al Bundy says as much in "Go for the Old" where Al enters himself in an athletic competition for senior citizens. When he's standing victoriously on the podium and holding his medals, he says, "It's only cheating if you get caught." | |
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In the Discworld Assassins' Guild, student assassins are given a list of places that are out-of-bounds. This is defined not as places they can't go, but as places they can't be seen by a master, which gives them lots of practice at the stealth skills Guild members are required to have. Even better, the Assassin's Guild Diary states that any boy not caught being out of bounds at least once per year gets detention unless they can prove that they were there but were not caught. It's considered a pass on your final exam if you assassinate your examiner — though, considering he's an experienced assassin himself, you're advised to be very sure that you will succeed before trying. Trying and failing will result in immediate exam failure and loss of privileges. Like breathing. | |
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In Charlotte, he got away with it for quite a while because of his supernatural power, but Yu eventually falls under the suspicion of cheating on his tests. To make matters worse for him, Nao has him on camera cheating. He runs off in a panic but is caught by Joujirou, who has Super-Speed. | |
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This trope comes up in Golden Sun, in a way. When participating on the Colosseum, it's possible for your party characters to help Isaac by using their Psynergy, which would certainly count as cheating, but no one outside of your party can even see the magic spells. Which gets a little weird when some of the spells have effects such as making a pillar of ice appear from a puddle. Maybe the crowd is so focused on the contestants that they ignore anything else? | |
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Megatron once tried doing this against Optimus Prime in The Transformers episode "Heavy Metal War"; he challenges Optimus to a duel of honor, with the loser exiling themselves, only to use a machine to transfer his underlings' powers into him and sending the Constructicons out to destroy the Autobots' computer, so it wouldn't be able to warn them of the duplicity. It doesn't work, in the end, but Optimus did completely miss the obvious signs of cheating on Megs' part during the battle. | |
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One of the scenario ideas in GURPS Illuminati University, set in a very peculiar university, involves the final exam for the Advanced Cheating class. The questions are just random obscure trivia; the actual test is finding a good way to cheat in it. If you get caught, you fail. If you don't even try to cheat, you'll be expelled for "terminal cluelessness." The difficulty to this being, of course, proving that someone did not cheat. | |
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The first rule of the Games Club in Higurashi: When They Cry: Win at all costs. Including using marked cards, bribing your opponents, pulling a Twin Switch... | |
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In Skyrim, worship of Talos is illegal in the Empire... but it's illegal through a treaty with a bunch of Nazi elves that everyone hates, so it's never really enforced until the civil war. Whiterun, ostensibly an Imperial city, has a preacher crying Talos' praises openly in the streets while the civil war rages (though if the Imperials secure the city he will be sent to the dungeon, where he will continue his sermons). | |
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In the movie Spies Like Us, one of the two "heroes" (to use the term loosely) managed to pressure the other into helping him cheat on their government promotion tests, through good, old-fashioned Chevy Chase-style chutzpah. When discovered, in order to cover themselves, they worked together by reflex to cover each other. The CIA test givers were so impressed that they gave them an immediate promotion to field agents. (Of course, this was a plot to throw expendable agents into the field as a diversion for more nefarious activities ... but the trope connection is solid.) | |
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Several of the characters in Schlock Mercenary view all rules as these, including Captain Tagon. Petey, while generally benevolent, loves underhanded methods himself. He once managed to get Toughs off the hook without confronting human governments by eagerly agreeing that the Toughs are less than law-abiding, but making the U.N.S. drop all charges because they don't want him to publish as part of the extradition process the very facts they tried to cover up. | |
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Soul Eater: Black*Star tries to peep on Tsubaki while she's bathing. He being who he is, yells, and gets a shuriken in the forehead. The thing is, Tsubaki wasn't mad at him for spying on her, but for not being able to conceal his presence. This makes the discovery of Tsubaki being the most lustful out of the group a bit more sensible and a lot more amusing. | |
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Megatron and the Peaceful Solution centers around Megatron attempting to engage in Pragmatic Villainy in this fashion, challenging Optimus Prime to a duel to end the war once and for all... with the intention of cheating in order to ensure his victory. He justifies it with the thought that it will ultimately be better for all involved to end the fighting, so long as he doesn't get caught. | |
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Vorkosigan Saga: This was pretty much Miles Vorkosigan's modus operandi until Memory when he got caught and it blew up in his face. He tried it again when courting Ekaterin in A Civil Campaign, and it blew up in his face again. And lampshaded in A Civil Campaign: And stated outright later in the book: |
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xkcd: In this comic, the instructor of a cybersecurity final exam tells the class that they've all failed, and that their grades are stored on the department server to be submitted tomorrow. The obvious implication is that the real test is to hack into the server and change your grade. | |
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Porridge has this happen often. Fletcher delivers lines like: | |
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Ultra Fast Pony: In the episode "Purple Party Pooper," Rarity declares, "What I do would be completely legal if no one knew about it." In "Winning": |
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In the 1997 Royal Rumble, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin, after being eliminated by Bret "the Hitman" Hart while the Easily-Distracted Referee wasn't looking, jumped back into the ring quickly and cleared the ring to win the Rumble. | |
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In Breath of Fire III, there's a minigame where you have to train a scrawny man's skills so he can beat a musclehead in a duel. You get disqualified only if anyone sees you interfere with the fight itself. Trick is that Zig only looks away after a Critical Hit, so you can't just rush in after one session of training. That said, you can also train up the scrawny man so well that he's capable of legitimately Curb Stomping Zig on his own. | |
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Drow from Dungeons & Dragons. Their entire legal system is based around this trope. As an example, in the city of Menzoberranzan if a Drow Noble House wants to eliminate another Noble House they must do it in a way that leaves no member of the eliminated house alive, since only nobles of the attacked house have the right of accusation against the attacking house, and are the only ones allowed to witness. Anyone else who happens to see the attack are merely "spectators." If even one member of the attacked house is alive to accuse the attackers, the attacking family will, according to the law, be eradicated by the ruling House Baenre. If no one is left alive to witness, everyone will act as if the now deceased house never existed in the first place, except for vaguely praising the attackers for a successful raid. The secret, though, is that the Baenres always come out ahead in any such House war: either one potential rival for power is destroyed, or both are and they adopt the survivors of the defending house. | |
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Invoked in a chapter of Kaguya-sama: Love Is War, where Fujiwara is found using marked cards. She calls out this trope by name as justification for her actually being very clever, while the others quietly point out that this doesn't really apply because she did get caught. | |
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What If Raditz Turned Good?: Raditz successfully smuggles a senzu bean to Goku during the Tournament of Power without Zenos or the Grand Priest noticing what he's doing. | |
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In one episode of Rocket Power, Lars points out a shortcut to Pi in a street luge race where nobody will see him while he's off the course, stating that "it's only cheating if you get caught." Otto overhears and takes said shortcut, doesn't get caught, and wins the race. | |
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The Hexer: Vesimir decides to help Geralt survive the Trial of Mountains, precisely because there is no one there to check if everything was set fairly. | |
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Forgotten Realms: After Drizz't Do'Urden abandoned his House and that House subsequently lost the favor of Lolth, it was annihilated by House Baenre, the First House of Menzoberranzan. However, not only Drizz't, but his brother Dinin and sister Vierna survived the massacre, being taken in by the Bregan Daerthe mercenaries. When Dinin asks Jarlaxle if he'd rescued them because of their claim against the Baenre, Jarlaxle basically tells him, "Pssh. Yeah, like that'll ever happen." | |
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This is what cost Dick Dastardly a victory in the Wacky Races episode "Creepy Trip to Lemon Twist." It appeared he crossed the finish line ahead of Penelope Pitstop, the Gruesome Twosome and Rufus Ruffcut, but then the judges ordered a replay of the finish. It showed a slo-mo of the nose of the Mean Machine extended ahead of the others, thus invoking a disqualification. | |
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Actively part of the fluff in Blood Bowl. Refs can be bribed to not call illegal play, may not see the illegal play, or may be too afraid of the crowd's reaction to call anything. | |
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Gunnerkrigg Court: Eglamore's advice to Antimony was not exactly what one'd expect from the teacher grounding a student. Annie initially criticizes this advice, but she has no trouble following it later. Of course, his company in their time used to do the same... Generally the Court uses visible and mediocre security measures which kids can and regularly do hack, jam, or bypass on their inevitable forays into the Court. While quietly employing a very advanced, undetectable, and unexpected in its work tracking system (of course, this ran smoothly only until one young Mad Scientist discovered it while hacking around their network) and/or beings that look innocuous, but are more than capable of stopping most troubles into which students could possibly get. |
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Star Wars: The Old Republic: Officially, even the Sith aren't allowed to murder other Sith. Unofficially, it really only counts if you get caught. The Sith Inquisitor PC's master, Lord Zash, is named Darth Zash after arranging the assassination of her rival, Darth Skotia: it's an Open Secret she did it, but nobody can prove it because she made sure she had an alibi, and while the Inquisitor, the actual killer, doesn't, nobody would believe an apprentice fresh from the Academy could kill a full Dark Lord of the Sith. There's also a sidequest on Dromund Kaas where a group of Sith are murdering people on the street For the Evulz. The player can trick them into attacking Sith apprentices by mistake, which gets them caught and executed. | |
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The Legend of Koizumi: It's practically understood that cheating is part of the game as long as you don't get caught. And sometimes, it's still not considered cheating even if you do get caught if you do it in an audacious enough manner, like when Koizumi's effort in cheating caused his entire body to be set ablaze. Getting caught, however, can be fatal As Otto Skorzony finds out when Dubya catches his tileswapping trick. | |
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Sabaton's We Burn song plays this trope for horror, with the singer saying genocide is not a crime if you don't get caught. | |
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In a Warehouse 13 episode, Artie plays a game of Battleship with an AI that has taken over the warehouse. He wins by not actually putting any ships on the board. This is used to prove a point to the AI that it is merely an incomplete version of its creator, who is a master cheater. | |
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Harry Potter and the Natural 20 has this as one of its central tenents. Since Milo hails from the world of Dungeons & Dragons, his magic is an Outside-Context Problem for the Potterverse — their magic can't detect his magic, and vice-versa. This is used and abused extensively by both sides. | |
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Knights of the Dinner Table: Official Hard 8 policy is that any rule in one of their games stands as written unless an official erratum regarding it has been issued. Playtesters sometimes insert deliberate errors into games to create broken rules for players to take advantage of until Hard 8 catches on and issues an erratum. One storyline centres around Bob acquiring a marked copy of Cattlepunk that identifies all these 'special rules', and then badly overplaying his hand. | |
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A number of strongly forbidden behaviors in Girl Genius are tacitly acknowledged to the point that the real crime seems to be doing them sloppily, such as students spying on Castle Wulfenbach, Jägers sneaking into Mechanicsburg (where they're forbidden until the Heterodyne gets the castle under control), and nobles being resurrected (which formally results in loss of all titles and permanent ineligibility). | |
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Kurosagi: Kurosaki isn't afraid to waltz around telling potential clients he's a professional swindler because no one is able to prove it. | |
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Space Quest V: At the very beginning of the game, you have to get a perfect score on a multiple-choice exam of unusual questions. Luckily, you can look at another test-taker's answers as long as you don't let the resident anti-cheating robot see you. | |
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In Death Note, Light Yagami claims that if Kira is caught, he's evil. However, if he isn't, he is justice. | |
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Trump Card: As far as Kaiser is concerned, the Unwritten/Unspoken Rules regarding secret identities only apply to those who can't get away with targeting and attacking others in their civilian lives. | |
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The Loud House: In "Driver's Dread", Leni decides to take a driving test while having the family van, Vanzilla, equipped with a self-driving device created by Child Prodigy Lisa. She uses the device during the test, and not only does the proctor never notice this, but Leni ends up passing the test with flying colors. | |
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Steve Jackson Games' conspiracy theory-themed card game Illuminati has a set of "cheating" rules in which almost anything goes (e.g. stealing money from the bank, misstating the powers of your cards, etc) as long as you don't get caught (if you do get caught, the only penalty is that you have to undo that specific cheating attempt). It is recommended that you play this version of the game only with "very good friends or people you will never see again." | |
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Dan Vs.: In the episode "Dan Vs. The Mummy," Dan proposes stealing Egyptian relics from a history museum. | |
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Helluva Boss episode 5 has a darkly comical version of this trope, with Millie complaining that she's not allowed to participate in the Wrath Circle's Pain Games any longer because, as her mother reminds her, the last time she did she become personally responsible for nine separate funerals. At this Millie reveals that she's actually less miffed about being banned than the fact that her sister, Sallie May, is still allowed to compete. Millie's mother tries to reason with Millie that Sallie doesn't have a neighborhood head count, to which Millie insists that she so does. Cue Sallie walking by in the background with a corpse, shouting out in a sing-song voice that "It doesn't count if they don't find the bodyyy~" | |
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The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind, You can join several guilds, and one of the rules is usually that you're not allowed to steal from or kill other guild members. However, you can do both of these things safely and if you do it without getting caught, you won't be kicked out of the guild. House Telvanni has an interesting twist on theft among members: their philosophy is that, if you steal something from another member of the Telvanni and live to tell about it, you clearly deserve whatever it is you stole. During the Mages Guild quest line, you will take on some quests for Ajira, the Balmora Guild Hall resident alchemist, who has a bet with Galbedir, the Guild Hall's enchanter, over who will reach the rank of Journeyman first. Ajira's quests involve doing things like sabotaging Galbedir's experiments while Ajira herself takes full credit for her research, despite your significant help in the matter. In Skyrim, worship of Talos is illegal in the Empire... but it's illegal through a treaty with a bunch of Nazi elves that everyone hates, so it's never really enforced until the civil war. Whiterun, ostensibly an Imperial city, has a preacher crying Talos' praises openly in the streets while the civil war rages (though if the Imperials secure the city he will be sent to the dungeon, where he will continue his sermons). |
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Billy pulls this in the second magic lesson of morphE. In order to get a phone call to his loved ones all seedlings need to successfully defeat a training dummy using magic and, as a group, banish a spirit. When Asia is struggling to cast on her dummy, Billy knocks it down while Amical is discussing Asia's difficulties with his henchmen. Asia is outraged that Billy would do this and Billy's response is that as long as Amical thinks they won the bet, they won the bet. The specifics don't change the outcome. | |
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In One Piece, the Foxy Pirates take this one step further. It's only cheating if the referee catches you, and since the referee is a member of the Foxy Pirates... Eventually the Straw Hats get sick of the whole thing and "discreetly" knock out the referee long enough that they are free to use violence against their opponents, before tricking him into ending the match after they've won. | |
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The Sting features a poker game in which the bad guy is cheating because he controls the dealer and thus which cards are dealt, but the good guy cheats by covertly switching his hand. The antagonist knows he's being had, but can't call it out because it would mean admitting he knew which cards his opponent "should have been dealt". | |
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Aran Ryan in Punch-Out!! (Wii). He's headbutted Mac, bounced off of the ring's ropes like a slingshot, used his elbows, used a pair of gloves like a flail, and hid horseshoes inside his gloves. All he needs to do is kick Mac in the groin and he'll have broken every rule in the book. And for some reason, the referee still doesn't disqualify him for this. | |
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Unhinged, one of the joke sets for Magic: The Gathering has a card called Cheatyface, which you're allowed to put into play for free as long as your opponent doesn't catch you doing it. | |
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The Witch of Knightcharm: The rookie witch Lily cheats during orientation at an evil Wizarding School by taking magical equipment from older students and also by having her friend, the seer Brynne, look into the future to see where the orientation course's death traps will be and then tell Lily how to avoid them. The protagonist Emily realizes that Lauren, an older student serving as a proctor, at least knows about the equipment but refuses to do anything about it. Emily realizes that cheaters won't be disqualified unless they're really blatant about it, and she thus has to take on Lily despite her unfair advantages. | |
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The Dark Elf Trilogy : The Drow (see Tabletop Games below) deserve a mention here as well since R. A. Salvatore's Drizzt books did a lot to codify that picture of their society. A quote from Homeland sums things up quite nicely: "Only twenty-two of the original twenty-five in Drizzt's class remained. One had been dismissed — and subsequently executed — for a foiled assassination attempt on a higher-ranking student, a second had been killed in the practice arena, and a third had died in his bunk of natural causes — for a dagger in the heart quite naturally ends one's life." | |
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Sigurd makes this suggestion to Hal in Brotherband. Hal is severely undermanned and takes his advice to win the competition. | |
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Used very darkly in Gals!: a pedophile teacher is harassing one of Sayo's friends, using I'm a Man; I Can't Help It as an excuse. When the girl calls him out on his immorality, the teacher smugly answers that in modern society, all that counts is keeping up a respectable appearance and if nobody has proof that he committed a crime, he didn't commit a crime. Unfortunately for him, Sayo was hiding nearby with a recorder in her hands. | |
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Daniel J. D'Arby, user of the Osiris Stand, has this as his motto. For example, it's not his fault that Polnareff didn't know that, when they were betting on what meat a cat would eat first, the cat belonged to D'Arby (and thus D'Arby could choose which piece would be eaten). Though an interesting thing about D'Arby is that he equally applies this to both himself and the person he plays against. To him, cheating is simply part of the game. Jotaro later uses this mantra against D'Arby's brother, Terrence aka D'Arby the Younger. Amusingly, D'Arby's ability to spot cheating loses out to Jotaro, who simply bluffs him with a completely unreadable poker face. Meanwhile, Jotaro beats the younger brother's ability to see through bluffsnote His Stand lets him ask "yes or no" questions and then read the answer in his opponent's aura by discreetly cheating with the aid of his grandfather Joseph. This is invoked in Part 4 when Josuke challenges Rohan to a dice game while planning on cheating using a shapeshifting (possible) alien disguised as a pair of dice. Unfortunately, said alien turns out to be terrible at being subtle about giving Josuke good rolls, and Rohan quickly catches on that he's cheating. Fortunately, he's more angry at himself for not being able to figure out how Josuke is cheating and allows him to continue on the condition that if he does figure it out, Josuke forfeits one of his fingers. This is openly averted in Part 6: the Marilyn Manson Stand allows its user to freely cheat in any bet, while it will immediately recognize the opponents' cheating and attack them - and it's completely invincible while doing so. The drawback is that, unlike the D'Arby brothers' Stands, defeating the user allows the victims to retake what was stolen. |
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In Jade Empire, for a full Lotus Assassin to kill another in their fortress is punishable.note Students are expendable. But if a master happens to fall into the golem machinery, or gets crushed by a falling clay golem shell, then they clearly deserved it for their carelessness. | |
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In an episode of Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger, Luka and Joe are disguised as Mooks and Luka is cleaning house by cheating at poker. When the enemy commander catches them, he challenges them to a game for their freedom. When he starts dealing, he's very blatantly cheating but gets away with it since all of his minions are vouching that "nothing happened". In the end, it seems that Joe won even with all of the cards stacked against him. It's revealed at the end of the episode that Luka swapped the decks while everyone was distracted to set Joe up with the winning hand. | |
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Bobby Heenan basically made his whole career with this strategy. Most notable would be him holding down the Ultimate Warrior's leg during the IC match with Rick Rude at Wrestlemania 5. | |
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Morrowind, You can join several guilds, and one of the rules is usually that you're not allowed to steal from or kill other guild members. However, you can do both of these things safely and if you do it without getting caught, you won't be kicked out of the guild. House Telvanni has an interesting twist on theft among members: their philosophy is that, if you steal something from another member of the Telvanni and live to tell about it, you clearly deserve whatever it is you stole. During the Mages Guild quest line, you will take on some quests for Ajira, the Balmora Guild Hall resident alchemist, who has a bet with Galbedir, the Guild Hall's enchanter, over who will reach the rank of Journeyman first. Ajira's quests involve doing things like sabotaging Galbedir's experiments while Ajira herself takes full credit for her research, despite your significant help in the matter. |
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Pirates of the Caribbean: The Pirate Code is really more a set of "guidelines", or "suggestions". At least they are on the open seas; not so much when Captain Teague, Keeper of the Code is in the room with a loaded gun. Still some room for...liberal interpretation, of course. Notably Elizabeth gets burned by this twice. The first time is not only are the rules more like "guidelines" but even if they were strictly enforced, she's not a pirate and thus not eligible for any protections the rules grant her. But as demonstrated by Barbossa because the rules aren't binding, that doesn't mean he can't negotiate with Elizabeth as if the code applied to her, which he did, and he proceeds to do exactly what she requests of him and nothing more. Later, when she tries to argue against leaving Jack Sparrow behind, she points out that the Code is a guideline and not rules. Unfortunately, she forgot that there's nothing in the code saying you can't treat the code as exact rules. |
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In Drowtales, one of the rules of the School of Magic is "If you attack another student, you must kill and dispose of the body." | |
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Theoretically, anything a team on Scrapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars brings back to their lot is theirs for keeps. Yeah, right... unless the other team steals it, in which case the hosts and thieves have a laugh at the victimized team's expense. | |
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In This Bites!, the Straw Hats take massive advantage of this during the Davy Back Fight. After all, it can't be proven they're responsible for the mass of fog and heavy wind that covered the field just before the second round, or that they beat the hell out of the Groggy Monsters under the cover of said fog. | |
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Doctor Who: In "The Woman Who Fell to Earth", the antagonist Tzim-Sha is participating in a ritual hunt in order for him to be named the next leader of his species. He's not supposed to have any weapons or equipment, but he smuggles in a data coil to help him locate his target, as well as a short-range teleporter. | |
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Star Wars: Darth Vader. Palpatine tells the competing rivals for Darth Vader's position to not kill each other...or if they do, to make sure he remains unaware of it. Vader however dumps the first rival he kills at the Emperor's feet, sending the not-so-subtle message that he will not be replaced. When someone finally tells the Emperor all about Vader's scheming, he's actually impressed because Vader has shown he's fully embraced the Dark Side. | |
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Academagia has a lot of Byzantine rules that amount to "you're not allowed to go anywhere or do anything except attend class and stay in your room the rest of the time when not at an Academy-approved activity." You're expected to sneak out and take a walk in the gardens to learn more about the world now and then, but if you get caught, you'll get detention. | |
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A subversion sometimes happens in the form of the "Dusty Finish", named after Dusty Rhodes who used to book this sort of finish all the time. In this case, the trope is played straight until the match is finished and one wrestler (often the face) is declared the winner, only for a second referee to come out and inform the first referee that the face did something to cause a disqualification (usually throwing the heel over the top rope, which was illegal at the time), causing that referee to reverse the decision. Because the face is usually on the losing end of the Dusty Finish, this practice is widely hated among wrestling fans. The most infamous example occurred in the AWA, when Hulk Hogan apparently won the title from Nick Bockwinkel, only for AWA president Stanley Blackburn to personally reverse the decision because Hogan threw Bockwinkel over the top rope. The fans nearly rioted as a result, Hogan left the AWA for Vince McMahon's WWF, and the rest is history. | |
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Scarlet Lady: When Adrien and Plagg steal Gabriel's book on Tibet and Adrien asks if rebellion is "supposed to feel like you're gonna barf", Plagg answers "Only if you get caught". | |
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The trope name is spoken almost verbatim in Andromeda by Gaheris Rhade to Hunt in a flashback when Dylan catches him cheating at Go. Rhade is visibly confused as to why Dylan is angry at him. He naturally assumes that everyone behaves that way, if they want to survive. | |
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In The Hunger Games, it is technically illegal to train children to participate in the Games and have them volunteer to take the place of whoever gets chosen by lottery. Regardless, the tributes from Districts 1, 2, and 4 are always what are called "Career Tributes". The Capitol seems to ignore this because it makes for a more entertaining show. | |
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In Aladdin, the title character remarks about his stealing food from the marketplace, "you're only in trouble if you get caught!" Which segues into this little exchange: | |
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South Park: Eric Cartman once posed as a teacher for a bunch of hooligan teens. Instead of teaching them all that normal stuff, he taught them to cheat on tests. While dressed as Edward James Olmos in Stand and Deliver. "How do I reach these keeeds!?" And to top it off, he continually referenced Bill Belichek and the 2007 Patriots, claiming that the moral of that situation was not "Don't cheat" - but rather "If you got to where you were by cheating, keep cheating!" In "Sexual Healing", Butters and Kyle attend a class to "cure" themselves of their sex addictions (as the WHO named it a disease after many reports of celebrities' infidelities hit the news), but the class doesn't aim to cure their addictions but rather teaches them ways to prevent themselves from getting caught. In a similar joke in an earlier episode, Father Maxi, the town's priest, travels to Rome to attend a conference on what to do about the problem of child molesters in the clergy. The other clergymen center the talks around finding ways to keep the molested children from coming forward. When Maxi suggests that a better solution would be to not molest children, he is laughed at. |
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Kengan Ashura's titular Kengan battles have one restriction for the competitors: you can't bring weapons. This is enforced by a security search and pat-down before the match. Thing is, the restriction also only really applies to that pat-down; if a weapon makes it through undetected, it can be used without breaking the rules, as openly as you'd like. Technically, it's still a violation, but reporting it would imply the opponent failed to notice a cheater in the patdown stage and is therefore a fool, and it would imply the Kengan organizer responsible for the pat-down failed to do their job right and therefore call the organization into question, so it's generally accepted to never call it out. | |
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Dario in Pokémon Reset Bloodlines firmly believes in this. Not that it helps him, though. | |
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In No Game No Life's world, everything is settled by a game. Whether it's a business deal, or for the throne of a kingdom, you must win at a game. One of the divine laws of the land states that getting caught cheating is an instant loss. Protagonist Sora instantly realizes this means that cheating is fine if you don't get caught. Using magic is considered cheating, but human beings cannot detect magic, so members of magical races tend to win games against humans. | |
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Monopoly: According to the official rules, if a player lands on property owned by another player, the property owner has until the next player after that rolls the dice to demand rent. After that, the player gets away scot-free. "No sneaks" is a popular house rule that removes this clause; if the property owner suddenly remembers the oversight later, they are still owed rent. Some groups let the Banker help himself to as much free money as he can get away with (for added realism), with various creative punishments if they're caught. In games that don't use such a rule, the Banker just has to be that much sneakier about it. There's actually an official version of Monopoly called the "Cheater's Edition", where you're encouraged to cheat. You lay 5 cheats down at the start of the game, and if someone is able to pull one off without somebody noticing, they get a special bonus, depending on the cheat. |
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In Back to School, Derek (Robert Downey Jr.), best friend of the main character's son, uses sunlight reflected from a mirror, and then an air horn, to distract divers from the opposing dive team, preventing them from making good dives so that his friend can win. | |
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Sixes and Sevens: Emily claims that running a red light doesn't count unless you get caught, and she only got caught once. | |
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MegaTokyo: Trying to convince himself. | |
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The Riftwar Cycle: In Raymond E. Feist and Janny Wurts's Empire trilogy, betrayal and assassination among rivals in the major Houses is almost never punished by the law unless the perpetrator was crass enough to be obvious about it. And being able to engineer a rival's demise by exploiting law and custom rather than just ignoring it will earn you the quiet admiration of your peers. | |
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There's a warped version of the The Tortoise and the Hare where the tortoise goes up against a cocky deer who makes fun of him for being slow. So the tortoise challenges the deer to a race and enlists the help of his many identical brothers who hide all along the way and make the deer believe the tortoise is constantly overtaking him. | |
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Chess: Heidenfeld - Kerins, Dublin 1973. White castled twice, even though this is flagrantly against the rules, which state that a player can only castle if neither the king nor the rook has moved before. Amazingly, Black let this stand, and Tim Krabbé has actually listed the match as a record (scroll down to "greatest number of castlings"), even though that move would never fly if both sides were paying attention. |
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Captain Tsubasa: During the Rising Sun arc, Juan DÃaz (who is based on Diego Maradona) reproduces the (in)famous Hand of God goal against Japan (see below in the Sports folder), and he actually gloats to Genzo Wakabayashi about it. Unlike his real life counterpart, however, Argentina loses that match. | |
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Kakegurui really loves this trope, being centered around gambling. Players are generally free to cheat in the most creative of ways: marked cards, moles, poison, even outright Loophole Abuse are permitted. The only thing not allowed is physical violence or overt intimidation. Several times, Yumeko catches on to how her opponent cheats, but instead of getting mad she simply thinks of it as a way to make the gamble more fun (and, conversely, gets miffed when her opponent deliberately cheats to give her an unfair advantage). In fact, Yumeko just as often uses that knowledge to turn her opponent's cheat against them. The Absurdly Powerful Student Council, and especially Kirari, practically encourages the students to cheat without being caught. Even when students are caught cheating, they're often allowed to continue playing so long as they don't use the same cheat twice. The Election Committee generally averts this trope, in that they will work towards ensuring all players have a fair shot at winning. However, this is limited to not taking sides, as reflected by their "Absolute Neutrality" motto; players are still free to set up cheats before the game starts so long as it's not blatant. |
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In America's Army 3, during Combat Lifesaving training, you are specifically told several times that no cheating or talking is allowed. This doesn't stop you at all from asking the student beside you for answers to the test and getting a perfect score. | |
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