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Vague Stat Values
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Gaming Stats always have a way to measure how good they are compared to others in a numerical fashion since games need to calculate things with them, especially when they're Video Games, where everything is numbers. But just because they are ranked numerically, doesn't mean they're presented numerically. That's what makes this trope. Someone or something gets a look at some gaming stats, but their values aren't numerical. If they're in a Starfish Language numbering system that doesn't count, unless the viewer thinks it's not numbers. This is commonly done with damage descriptions of combat moves, to abstract away how the damage is calculated, and enemies are usually easy enough that it's not Rocket-Tag Gameplay, where getting the absolute most out of an attack is the thin line between winning and losing. To show how much of an effect an attack has, Shows Damage numbers along with trusting the player to remember that "this move does about 1.5 times the damage of the weaker version" is usually sufficient for a player to realize which enemies have more defenses than others. Vague Hit Points is a Sub-Trope, for when games don't present Hit Points with precision. Compare with Idiosyncratic Combo Levels, which shows what numbers a label corresponds with/describes each number. Similar to the Absolute Comparative advertising trope, because they also use comparatives. |
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Dropped link to WarcraftIII: Not an Item - UNKNOWN | |
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Company of Heroes: Resource costs are clearly stated throughout the game series, but pretty much everything else isn't. 3 instead also clearly stated the numbers of health for all units and vehicles' armor numbers for all sides of the vehicles, but nothing further. | |
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Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance: Potions and Drumsticks both restore "some" Hit Points, a.k.a 70 and some value over 88 respectively, and Mana Prisms restore "some" Mana. | |
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Forget Me Not: My Organic Garden: The effects of the pets are described only in vague terms like "faster" and "quicker" experience gathering and water refill. | |
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The Shantae series: In Shantae: Half-Genie Hero and Shantae and the Seven Sirens, the precise range of the Power-Up Magnet passive effect, "Attract" and its stronger versions are unstated: Shantae: Half-Genie Hero: The Revive Dance restores "some" health while its stronger version, Super Revive Dance, restores all health. |
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In Six Ages: Ride Like The Wind, the clan's preference for tradition/innovation influences several stat checks, especially those pertaining to allying with the Rams and winning the game. The bad news is that the game does not tell you this, or even that the preference is a stat. The good news is that an adviser on the overall clan screen will always mention what the clan currently prefers. | |
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The Binding of Isaac: Stats are only shown as up to five tallies beside symbols in the pause menu, with more tallies equaling more of that stat. This is extremely inaccurate since the game uses decimals, internal multipliers, and numbers that go way past 5, which are not shown at all. Downplayed as of the Afterbirth+ expansion, which optionally lets you use Found HUD (an official adaptation of a mod called Missing HUD), putting accurate stats on the screen. | |
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A Very Long Rope to the Top of the Sky: There's multiple adjectives, but no precise numbers used to describe the amount of Hit Points healed by healing magic. Given that such spells appeared to be Tiered by Name due to higher levels adding prefixes and higher Mana requirement to another spell, implying the tiers being: "some", "moderate", and "major": | |
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Dungeons & Dragons: 3rd Edition: Detect Magic, Detect Evil, and similar spells only differentiate faint, moderate, strong, overwhelming, and residual auras rather than reveal a specific Spell Level or creature level. 5th edition: The Battle Master Fighter's 7th-level feature "Know Your Enemy" lets them, when not in combat, observe a character for a minute and gauge the relative values, higher, lower, or equal to the user, for 2 game statistics that the user selects out of Str, Dex, Con, AC, HP, character level, and Fighter level. |
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The Other: Airi's Adventure: Some skills have adjectives to describe the effects, but skills descriptions don't come with precise numerical stats: | |
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Transistor: The Turn() Planning Cost meter is eaten up by moves which have fixed, specified, costs but only the code says how big the meter is. | |
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Shantae: Half-Genie Hero: The Revive Dance restores "some" health while its stronger version, Super Revive Dance, restores all health. | |
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The Logomancer: There's some Percent-Based Values like Thesis dealing "20% extra verbal damage per research level", but that's about as unclear as the adjectives describing damage because there's no baseline. For example, the damage part of these skills' descriptions: | |
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Persona: Attacks have a numerical Power statistic that factors into the damage formulas to determine how much damage they do, but the descriptions for attacks only vaguely refer to them as "light/moderate/heavy/severe [type] damage" | |
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Pokémon: From Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! and onwards, there's a feature that works similarly to the Generation III+ games' "stats judge" character that describes the "individual values" that vary between individual members of a species, in vague terms like "decent", "above-average" and "very good", with "fantastic" being the best value - 1 and "best" being literally the best possible value. | |
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Sunset Overdrive: Chances of effects activating are mentioned, but not precise percentages or fractions. For example, Burn, Baby: | |
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Iji: Weaponry does precise Hit Points of damage, but that's only revealed after beating the game once. Otherwise, weapon descriptions describe their damage and Arbitrary Weapon Range with adjectives only: | |
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RemiLore: Lost Girl in the Lands of Lore: MP and HP decrease items have vague size names, but fixed values, like Medium MP Increase being +20 and then there's the "Large". | |
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Prayer of the Faithless: Status Infliction Attacks note the chance that the status will be inflicted, with just verbal descriptions of Low or Med(ium), or it's guaranteed. | |
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3rd Edition: Detect Magic, Detect Evil, and similar spells only differentiate faint, moderate, strong, overwhelming, and residual auras rather than reveal a specific Spell Level or creature level. | |
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Level Up (MHA): From the first chapter, when Izuku gets a look at Itsuka's stats, they're given as descriptions, instead of numbers, except for her Character Level, and her bust size, a.k.a Charisma, is in cup sizes: | |
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Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland: Effects are described with general adjectives. For example, the tiers of HP Recovery as described in Details: | |
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5th edition: The Battle Master Fighter's 7th-level feature "Know Your Enemy" lets them, when not in combat, observe a character for a minute and gauge the relative values, higher, lower, or equal to the user, for 2 game statistics that the user selects out of Str, Dex, Con, AC, HP, character level, and Fighter level. | |
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Titan Quest: The player character starts with an Attack Speed stat of 100%, the speed of their bare fists. Weapons all have an Attack Speed stat, which seems to the comparison of the attack speed after equipping the weapon, compared to what it was like initially. For example, Maces have an Attack Speed of Slow, and using them gives sets the Attack Speed to be under 100%, while Short Swords are Fast and give an Attack Speed above 100%. | |
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Madou Monogatari displays none of its stat values. Instead, things like Hit Points, Mana, and attack power are determined using context clues such as Character Portrait changes and the precise wording of character descriptions. | |
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The Atelier Series: Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland: Effects are described with general adjectives. For example, the tiers of HP Recovery as described in Details: Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland: Traits are listed in the Library and while some have Percent-Based Values about their effects, but others don't and just use adjectives. For comparison: |
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Okiku, Star Apprentice: The Evolving Attacks mainly change their descriptions in the adjective describing their damage/healing. For example, the Stun line at its first and last evolution: | |
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Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland: Traits are listed in the Library and while some have Percent-Based Values about their effects, but others don't and just use adjectives. For comparison: | |
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Luxaren Allure: Pollyanna Cure seems to be the stronger version of Healing Optimism, due to Theme Naming and sharing the same symbol, but doesn't give precise measurements of its improvement, but it costs more than twice as much Mana: | |
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Vampire: The Requiem: In 1st Edition, vampires can sense whether another vampire's Blood Potency score is higher or lower than theirs based on whether their instinct is to flee or attack. That urge was dropped from 2nd Edition, but vampires can still recognize each other on sight. | |
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