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The Negotiations Verse is a My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic fanfic series written by Rated Ponystar that is based on The Conversion Bureau.Things start out like any other TCB story: Equestria appears on Earth 20 Minutes into the Future surrounded by a magical barrier, and they offer humanity a magical potion that would heal all their ills and grant them happier, more peaceful lives, with the only apparent trade-off being that they would be physically turned into ponies. But when the odd behaviors of the human converts (otherwise known as the Newfoals) and expanding barrier made it clear that Equestria's true goal was to convert the entire human race and "purify" them and the Earth, humanity declared war, united against a common enemy, and soundly defeated Equestria. Now, Twilight Sparkle has to ensure Equestria's continued survival and broker peace between humanity and ponykind in the aftermath.This particular take on the TCB genre stands out as it focuses on the aftermath of the conflict between mankind and the ponies from the latter's perspective, that of the losing side. In addition, its tone is a more serious and grounded take on TCB, analyzing and deconstructing certain tropes common to TCB stories.The story currently spans ten parts. Rated Ponystar has also given the go-ahead to other writers to take part in the universe. | |
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A Form You Are Comfortable With | |
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A Form You Are Comfortable With: Garen appears as a Diamond Dog to Halberd. His true form is incomprehensible to mortal minds. | |
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Kill the God | |
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Kill the God: Halberd explains in his journal that the alicorns are worshiped as goddesses by the ponies, so for them, if one were to die, it would be an example of this. Luna being killed during the Battle of Jerusalem was the first major hit to the Equestrians' morale. This later happens to Cadence and Flurry Heart when the Crystal Empire is nuked, and then to Celestia herself in Truth, which serves as a crushing blow to the resolve of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters. | |
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Hanlon's Razor | |
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Hanlon's Razor: While her genuine cluelessness was mixed with some prejudice, Twilight initially couldn't understand why nearly every human rejected the "perfect gift" that was ponification. The revelation about the consequences of Celestia's actions and taking the time to really think about what exactly the potion does change this. | |
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Control Freak: Celestia, to the point that Discord even lampshades one of the many reasons she tried to get rid of humans was that they inspired ponies to ask questions that Celestia didn't have the answers to. | |
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Chunky Salsa Rule | |
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Celestia tries to attack Fluttershy and gets subjected to the Chunky Salsa Rule thanks to the humans defending the former Element of Kindness and a brutal beatdown from Spike. | |
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Dirty Coward | |
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Dirty Coward: Rainbow Dash sees herself as one because she retreated out of fear for her own life after seeing the Wonderbolts get mercilessly slaughtered during humanity's invasion of Equestria and left Scootaloo behind to die in the process. Her shame over this drove her to join the Equestrian Freedom Fighters because she saw Twilight's choice to surrender to the humans as a slap in the face to their memory. | |
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Anyone Can Die | |
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Anyone Can Die: Many named characters from the show don't make it out to the other side of the war. Among the dead are Luna, Cadence, Flurry Heart, Silver Spoon, Diamond Tiara, Twist, the Cutie Mark Crusaders, Button Mash, Pinkie Pie, Rarity, Shining Armor, and more. Useless has the deaths of Bon Bon/Sweetie Drops, Applejack, and Rainbow Dash. | |
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Heroic BSoD | |
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Heroic BSoD: Part 15 has everyone in shock after everything they have witnessed and the deaths of their loved ones. | |
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Jumping Off the Slippery Slope | |
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Part 8 sees Twilight fully snap following Shining's death, resulting in her taking out most of the East Coast with the Harmony Cannon. | |
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Heel–Face Door-Slam | |
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Heel–Face Door-Slam: As Equestria is about to lose the war, Rarity realizes after a heated argument with Applejack that Fluttershy was right about the forced conversion of humanity and the war waged against them being morally wrong...right before Ponyville is bombed into oblivion. | |
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Tempting Fate | |
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Tempting Fate: In the "Glorification" Choice chapter, Princess Luna ponders the futile attempts of humanity to stop Equestria from winning the war. She even pretty much states that fighting humans stopped being fun long ago. Then comes the Battle of Jerusalem, where her magic is nullified right before she gets obliterated by the humans' guns. | |
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Villain Team-Up | |
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Villain Teamup: Grogar, Lord Tirek, and King Sombra form an alliance with each other to defeat Princess Celestia, take over Equestria, and find a way to escape from Equus before their eventual destruction by the sun. | |
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Dull Eyes of Unhappiness | |
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Dull Eyes of Unhappiness: Along with dull coats and manes, Celestia, Applejack, and Rainbow Dash are all described as having these, as are what's left of the crystal ponies. In the Choice chapter "Oppression", Twilight notes how the ponies that were taken to the gulags run by the Equestrian Secret Service have lost all the light in their eyes from years of backbreaking work and mental torture. | |
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Universally Beloved Leader | |
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Universally Beloved Leader: Deconstructed with Celestia. The ponies' reverence of her meant that they went along with her plan to go to Earth and assimilate humanity without question, and never once thought about any of the implications of this until it was too late. Twilight herself never even considered that Celestia could do anything as monstrous as leaving behind their entire planet to die and it takes Anthony Doyle's Armor-Piercing Question for her to even begin thinking about it fifteen years after the fact. This fanaticism cost Celestia's people nearly everything they had, so it's no surprise that the majority of them turned against her once the full extent of her atrocities came to light. Choice, as well as Lyra and her Resistance, show that it wasn't completely at 100%, as more than a few ponies had reservations about the war and Celestia's plans. However, as Captain Parabola notes, Celestia set up propaganda as well as Secret Police to root out those who opposed the war, which radicalized the remaining ponies (thus reinforcing their adoration of her) and drove those who were doubtful of the war to be quieter about expressing any dissent. Played Straight with Twilight, who had gained near-universal love and forgiveness from humanity and ponykind for her work in reversing the effects of the potion and undoing the damage that Celestia had done to the world at large. | |
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All There in the Manual | |
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All There in the Manual: This Q&A provides much of the setting's background information and history. There are also two timelines, listed above, one of which allows one to see the progression of events from the time Equestria showed up to the time it surrendered, the other showing a timeline of events starting at Negotiations to ten years after the war ended. | |
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Apocalypse Anarchy | |
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Ironically, given how Celestia and Equestria banked on the humans falling to this, it's played straight with the ponies. Equestria's warmongering drove Fluttershy, Discord, and the Resistance over to the side of the humans, where Discord became a hero by defending the human race and Moondancer helped create the Thalmann Generators, ensuring Equestria's defeat. Equestria itself fell deeper into Apocalypse Anarchy as it became clear they would lose the war. | |
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Celestia herself got this over the course of the war and after she woke up from her coma. Simply put, the humans put up a much fiercer resistance than expected, causing the war she'd promised would be a short affair to drag out for five years. And after humanity deploys the Thalmaan Generators and swiftly turn the tables on Equestria, leading to one brutal Curbstomp Battle after the next and ever more severe losses for the ponies, including her own family members, Celestia increasingly began to lose her grip on reality, still convinced that the ponies were in the right and could turn things around at the last second and lashed out more and more when things didn't go her way. Then, when she wakes up from her six-years-long coma, she's horrified and outraged when she learns that Twilight surrendered the war rather than let the ponies be wiped out in a "last stand" as she wanted and the ponies not only have made peace with humanity but, with the exception of the EFF members, all curse her name. | |
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Son of an Ape | |
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Applejack often refers to humans as "monkeys" (as do other anti-human ponies) and even disowned her cousin Braeburn for not only defecting to aid the humans but also for getting into a romantic relationship with one (calling him a "backstabbing, monkey-bucking slut"). | |
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Sins of Our Fathers | |
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Sins of Our Fathers: The timeline notes that Berlin suffered one of the most damaging attacks by Equestrian forces in the third year of the war as "punishment" for the crimes of the Nazis. | |
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Off with His Head! | |
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Celestia gets decapitated by Twilight. | |
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The Cameo | |
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The Cameo: Halberd Wings and his father (both from "Warfare") briefly appear listening to Lyra's speech in "Regeneration Part 7". | |
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The Ghost | |
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The Ghost: Compared to other fics based on the Conversion Bureau, the newfoals as a whole can be considered this, as despite tensions between ponies and humans breaking into a war due to the conversion bureaus and what the newfoals turn out to be like, almost everything involving the newfoals is relegated to ponies and humans alike talking about or recalling how unsettling they are, and unlike other Conversion Bureau fics, no individual newfoals are shown. That said, the problematic elements of the conversions and the characters' feelings on the newfoals' unsettling nature are still perfectly conveyed. | |
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The Gulag | |
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The Gulag: Where ponies arrested by the Equestrian Secret Police are taken to. They're forced into working themselves down to the bone. When Twilight goes to visit a labor camp after the war, she notes that all the former prisoners are practically skin and bones, with the light in their eyes all but gone. | |
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Abandoned Area | |
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Abandoned Area: Canterlot Castle was left vacant and fell into disrepair for many years after Celestia was removed from power. It wasn't until a new governing body for Equestria was determined that they rebuilt it, and it later became the location of Twilight's deathbed as well. | |
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Did You Think I Can't Feel? | |
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Did You Think I Can't Feel?: This is Twilight's response when Rainbow Dash accuses her of not caring about Pinkie's death after seeing her give a halfhearted farewell speech with no hint of emotion on her face. Twilight admits she is just tired of everything that has happened and she's merely trying her best to keep calm. | |
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I Need a Freaking Drink | |
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I Need a Freaking Drink: With the EFF's home base being invaded, her spirit broken, and her imminent death rapidly approaching, Applejack uncorks the last bottle of Sweet Apple Acres Whiskey left in the whole world and shares it with Rainbow Dash before both of them meet their tragic end. Choice shows Celestia indulging in the contents of the palace's wine cellar as the humans continue to advance on Equestria. | |
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The Hedonist | |
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The Hedonist: Lightning Dust doesn't care about what happens after death and is deciding to live it up by drinking, partying, and bucking until the end. | |
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Adaptational Villainy | |
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Celestia's depiction is a deconstruction of the Adaptational Villainy portrayals of her that are the norm for Anti-TCB fics. Truth goes out of its way to explore what could cause someone as benevolent as canon Celestia to commit such actions. It's revealed that a combination of desperation to save Equestria from certain doom, a tragedy causing her to assume the worst of humanity, and her own belief in her absolute moral righteousness prevented her from questioning her actions until it was too late. | |
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Moses in the Bulrushes | |
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Moses in the Bulrushes: Discord's parents used all the magic they had left to send him to Equus before their planet was destroyed. | |
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Praetorian Guard | |
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Praetorian Guard: Twilight is protected by her own Royal Guards and by U.N. special forces, which doesn't make it easy for the EFF to try to assassinate her. They still try, but fail. | |
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Lowered Recruiting Standards | |
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Lowered Recruiting Standards: By the final weeks of the war, what was left of the Equestrian military began recruiting teenagers into its ranks to fill out some gaps. | |
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PlayedStraight | |
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Played Straight with Twilight, who had gained near-universal love and forgiveness from humanity and ponykind for her work in reversing the effects of the potion and undoing the damage that Celestia had done to the world at large. | |
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Like Father, Like Son | |
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Like Father, Like Son: Fluttershy's adopted son, a pegasus named Feathershy, takes after his mother in terms of personality and speech patterns. | |
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A Shared Suffering | |
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A Shared Suffering: Fluttershy and Rarity's reconciliation is rooted in them being the only survivors of Twilight's murderous rampage in "Twilight Falls". | |
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Technologically Advanced Foe | |
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Technologically Advanced Foe: Humanity to Equestria, so much so that the war rapidly became a Curb-Stomp Battle in favor of the former once they developed the means to negate the latter's magical advantages. In the last few months of the war, the ponies tried building weapons like guns, tanks, and battleships to fight the humans on their level. However, these weapons were based on designs mankind hasn't used since the 1940s because Equestria doesn't have the materials or technology to make anything more advanced; meanwhile humanity has since developed mobile armor that shoots lasers along with other weapons using a mixture of magic and technology. | |
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Brutal Honesty | |
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Brutal Honesty: Garen finds all wars and conflicts to be stupid, a side effect of having worked with soldiers and warriors in the afterlife. | |
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Fire-Forged Friends | |
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Fire-Forged Friends: Fluttershy and Rarity in "Twilight Falls" are a case where they used to be friends and the fire they go through helps them reconcile. | |
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Trash of the Titans | |
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Trash of the Titans: Twilight's lab is described as a disgusting mess in the Choice chapter "Teleportation", as she's put cleanliness on the backburner to focus on trying to "hack" the Elements of Harmony. | |
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Walking Spoiler | |
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Walking Spoiler: Harmony is one for the "Divine Justice" and "Harmony's Chosen" endings. | |
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Body-Count Competition | |
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Defied with the deaths of Rainbow Dash and Applejack. They were absolutely ready to go out in a blaze of glory, even pumping themselves up with some Body-Count Competition banter, only for a random soldier to burst into their room and quickly mow them down with More Dakka before moving on to the next target. | |
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Not in This for Your Revolution | |
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Not in This for Your Revolution: Lightning Dust is a member of the EFF, but doesn't really care about "restoring the true Equestria". She just doesn't have anything else to live for and wants to go out in a blaze of glory. | |
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Emergency Transformation | |
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Emergency Transformation: In the early days of the conversion bureaus, before Celestia's true intentions became clear, some humans took the ponification potion to cure their terminal illnesses or used it as a cost-free solution for being unable to afford traditional medical treatment for their ailments. Needless to say, the costs outweighed the benefits. Negotiations notes that humans are researching the potion for precisely these qualities, and one of the things on the negotiation table is for ponies to help humans expand on these properties without the Mind Rape aspects of the original potion. | |
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Wave-Motion Gun | |
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Wave-Motion Gun: In the Choice chapter "Indignation, Part 1", Dr. Thalmaan reveals that one weapon idea that didn't get followed up on in the war was a device that took the anti-magic properties of the generators bearing his name and charged up the frequencies to essentially create a Death Ray that scrambled a pony's physiology at the cellular level, causing their bodies to break down painfully. It was deemed too expensive, impractical, and cruel to use on the battlefield, but Dr. Thalmaan figured it would be a good weapon to use on Celestia to subdue her once she woke up from her coma. | |
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I Just Want to Have Friends | |
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I Just Want to Have Friends: In Reunited, after everything she's lost, Twilight desperately wants someone (besides Spike) who can help carry the weight of her burdens, and so she seeks out Fluttershy years after they parted on bad terms. | |
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Persona Non Grata | |
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Persona Non Grata: In the "Harmony's Chosen" ending, the Ponyville residents pass a law forbidding any Apple Family member from living there again after Applejack is exposed for selling out numerous innocent ponies to the ESS for cash. Thus, Apple Bloom is cast out of the only home she's ever known and can never go back to it. | |
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Mythology Gag | |
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Mythology Gag: Harmony openly states that Twilight should have been the first of the ponies to realize what the princesses' absence would entail for the sun and moon of their original homeworld, which was seen in Negotiations, the very first story in the Negotiationsverse. Harmony describes the future holders of the Elements, or rather, who they would have been. They're the members of the Friendship School. The fate that Spike had set up for Twilight in "Operation Freebird" was a fusion of her fate in the previous two endings - she'd get life in prison, but at the same time, still would have to work on curing the Newfoals. | |
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Offing the Offspring | |
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Offing the Offspring: Garen shows Halberd a vision in the ancient past of a pegasus mare who killed her disabled foal by throwing him to his death from the clouds, as part of her tribe's tradition. | |
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Uncertain Doom | |
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Pinkie vanished and no one knows if she's even still alive, but rumor has it that she's dead and her ghost haunts Ponyville. | |
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Sunk Cost Fallacy | |
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Sunk Cost Fallacy: Twilight lampshades how Celestia refused to give up despite the humans' victory being all but guaranteed after the barrier was brought down. | |
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Crusading Widow | |
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Crusading Widow: Invoked by Celestia with Cadence, whom Celestia egged on into using the Crystal Cannon to destroy Rome and Mecca by exploiting her grief over Shining Armor's death. | |
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Lampshade Hanging | |
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Lampshade Hanging: Following the final reveal of Part 13 that the Black Guardian was the real Greater-Scope Villain, the Author's Note opens on a self-aware note: | |
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Peace Conference | |
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Peace Conference: The premise of the first written story, Negotiations, is Twilight meeting with Anthony Doyle, a member of the UN's Peacekeeping Department, to negotiate peace and long-term goals between their two races now that the ponies have lost the war and are currently at humanity's mercy. | |
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Break the Haughty | |
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Break the Haughty: Garen doesn't hold back with Halberd, making sure to absolutely disabuse the stallion of his preconceived notions about the ponies being better than humans and of Celestia's righteousness. | |
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Bring My Brown Pants | |
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It happens to him and his comrades again at the start of the Invasion of Equestria. They stand at the beach, ready to face whatever humanity's about to throw at them... and then the fog dissipates to reveal legions of gigantic floating battleships speeding towards them. Bring My Brown Pants doesn't even begin to describe it. Halberd describes many ponies simply dropping their weapons and running. | |
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More Dakka | |
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More Dakka: Luna perished in this manner, so much so that Rainbow Dash described her corpse as looking like Swiss cheese, and it took Celestia two weeks of repairing it with magic and paying expensive preppers just to make it presentable for the funeral. Choice describes her corpse as resembling a slab of ground chuck with bits of blue fur and feathers sticking out of it. The Wonderbolts were also killed this way, and seeing it happen right in front of her horrified Rainbow Dash so much that she retreated to save herself. Rainbow Dash first mentions it in Useless, but the scene itself is expanded on and shown firsthand in Choice. Halberd mentions that he saw lots of ponies die this way in the first few minutes of the Invasion of Equestria, with one pegasus trying to use a rocket launcher simply getting swatted out of the air in pieces. | |
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Artifact Title | |
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Artifact Title: Subverted - while this is a recursive fanfiction of The Conversion Bureau, it doesn't have TCB in its title. While the Timeline and in-universe dialogue reveal that the Bureaus did exist before the war, they were closed down when hostilities began heating up. | |
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He Who Fights Monsters | |
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He Who Fights Monsters: Twilight feels this way about herself and what Equestria as a whole has become by the time she decides to surrender, pointing out the depths they sunk to in their vain attempt to defeat the humans even when it was becoming increasingly obvious there was no way they'd ever be able to win ever since mankind began using the Thalmann Generators. Fluttershy has this revelation even earlier, which is part of why she defected. | |
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Fantastic Nuke | |
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Fantastic Nuke: The Crystal Cannon, a pony WMD created by King Sombra which was used to destroy Mecca and Rome. In retaliation, humanity dropped an actual nuke on the Crystal Empire. | |
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There Is No Cure | |
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There Is No Cure: In the "Harmony's Chosen" ending, even with the efforts of an imprisoned Twilight and several human and pony scientists, a cure cannot be found to give the Newfoals back their original bodies. The most that can be done is to restore their original personalities. | |
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Psychopomp | |
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Psychopomp: Garen is one for soldiers and warriors. | |
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My Master, Right or Wrong | |
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My Master, Right or Wrong: Spike didn't agree with what the ponies were doing to the humans, but went along with it without complaint because Twilight did. And Twilight herself followed and trusted Celestia without question even when she had her own doubts. Scootaloo also harbored doubts regarding the war, and before that, she had her own human friends and interests on the human side of things. Unfortunately, she was still loyal to her homeland and fought against those humans, leading to her tragic death later on. | |
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Home by Christmas | |
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Home by Christmas: The ponies thought, with their magic, the potion, and the humans' long history of being divided over petty political issues, that they'd have the whole thing wrapped up by Hearth's Warming Eve. Five years later, the "short" war had ground to a deadly stalemate, even before mankind developed Anti-Magic devices. In "Recursion" of Choice, Cadence calls Twilight out on predicting that the war would be this trope since they're still at war and the humans are clearly starting to turn things around in their favor. | |
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The Bad Guy Wins | |
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The Bad Guy Wins: A very downplayed example - Celestia's ultimate goal, this entire time, was to ensure her ponies would continue to survive. In that sense, she succeeds, as they're still around nearly three hundred years later on Earth. She may be universally hated for everything else she did, but she accomplished that at the very least. | |
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Artifact of Power | |
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Artifact of Power: The Scroll of Ascension, which contains the spell that can transform any pony into an alicorn. After the Conversion War, the EFF tries to steal it from Twilight's palace in order to restore Celestia to her former power, but she catches them in the act and destroys it, so that no other pony will ever obtain godlike power and cause such untold destruction again, as Celestia did. | |
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100% Heroism Rating | |
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100% Heroism Rating: The sniper who killed Shining Armor was declared a hero for his accomplishment. Discord is also near-universally loved by humanity, in a complete reversal of how he was initially seen in Equestria. Lyra Heartstrings is also beloved by mankind, nicknamed "Hero and Friend to All Humans" for her outspoken and unwavering rebellion. | |
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Even Evil Has Standards | |
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Even Evil Has Standards: Even though she hates humanity, Celestia is horrified when she learns about the Harmony Cannon and the destruction it can cause. | |
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Bury Your Disabled | |
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Bury Your Disabled: Before the three pony tribes united, the pegasi would throw disabled foals off the clouds and to their deaths in a manner reminiscent of Ancient Sparta. | |
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Deity of Human Origin | |
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Deity of Human Origin: In the "Harmony's Chosen" ending, the Elements choose Fluttershy to be their new bearer and ascend her into an alicorn, while stripping Celestia and Twilight of their own alicorn statuses. | |
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Distant Finale | |
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In "Operation Freebird" Spike dies in battle with Celestia. Up until that point, no Negotiationsverse media had been created in which he failed to survive; in fact, he was the last surviving member of the Conversion War generation in the Distant Finale, which takes place three hundred years in the future. | |
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Cryptic Background Reference | |
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Cryptic Background Reference: The EFF chooses the Macintosh Mountains as their last hideout because of the numerous significant historical events of Equestria that took place there. | |
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Adapted Out | |
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Adapted Out: Moondancer isn't seen or mentioned anywhere in the story. She was the one who helped create the weapons used by humanity to help win the war in both the main timeline and Fallen. Given that Princess Celestia is said to have arrested many of Lyra's supporters in Part 2, it is mostly likely she was one of those who was captured and imprisoned. | |
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You Should Have Died Instead | |
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You Should Have Died Instead: Applebloom says this to Applejack after learning of her crimes in "Harmony's Chosen, Part 2". Specifically, Bloom says Big Mac should have been the one to live, believing that he would never have stooped as low as to sell out their neighbors to the ESS for cash. | |
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Kick the Dog | |
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Kick the Dog: Celestia did this to Twilight just a few days before the final assault that left her comatose. After another Royal Guard Lieutenant surrendered to the humans and wrote a note to her urging her to do the same, she snapped. Twilight tried to calm her down, only for Celestia to scold Twilight for failing in her own duties as a princess for not keeping her friends together, as Fluttershy's defection rendered the Elements of Harmony useless. While Celestia did apologize later, it was a clear sign of how badly Celestia was losing her grip on her sanity as her plans crumbled around her. | |
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La Résistance | |
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La Résistance: Lyra led a group of ponies, including Fluttershy and Discord, to join humanity and fight against Celestia, and their combined efforts are what ultimately allowed mankind to win the war. In Reunited we learn that there were also several non-ponies (griffins, zebras, minotaurs, donkeys, and more) who rebelled as well, but sadly they were all eradicated by Celestia's forces when they tried to escape Equestria, and afterward, Celestia blamed their deaths on humanity to cover it up. After losing half of Equestria to the invading humans, General Valkyrie staged a coup to seize control of Canterlot and negotiate peace with mankind to save what was left of her people and country but failed horribly. The EFF, the Equestrian Freedom Fighters, think that they're this trope, but in reality, they're just terrorists. | |
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Cluster F-Bomb | |
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Cluster F-Bomb: Halberd unleashes one after finding out that Thundershot died in the line of duty. | |
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Gratuitous German | |
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Gratuitous German: Professor Thalmann occasionally drops German words into his speech like "Scheiße" (shit) and "Auf wiedersehen" (goodbye). | |
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Awful Truth | |
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Awful Truth: Celestia believes the true reasons behind her actions could be this, as does anyone else in the know. Invoked in the Choice chapter "Documentation" - one of the ponies looking over the Equestrian Secret Service's files decides to burn the documents pertaining to Applejack selling out her neighbors for cash, reasoning Twilight already has enough painful memories associated with her former friend and doesn't need more added on to that. | |
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Book Burning | |
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Book Burning: In the lead-up to the war, Celestia made bans against pieces of human culture, with these becoming commonplace. Happens again to Daring Do's books when it was found out she was part of the EFF after she was killed. | |
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Rapid Aging | |
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Rapid Aging: Celestia/Sunnyvale succumbs to this in "Harmony's Chosen Part 1." With her alicorn powers stripped from her, she grows thousands of years older in mere seconds and then crumbles to dust, effectively killing her. | |
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This Means War! | |
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This Means War!: When Celestia delivered her ultimatum to humanity, they responded in kind. | |
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This Cannot Be! | |
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This Cannot Be!: In Choice, "Obsession" is essentially Princess Celestia having a chapter-long Villainous Breakdown over Equestria losing the war to the "ungrateful, irredeemable humans" despite the ponies supposedly being the good guys who are trying to make them see the light of harmony and friendship. | |
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World-Healing Wave | |
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World-Healing Wave: In "Divine Justice", Harmony uses one of these to turn all the newfoals back into humans instantly with no ill side effects. This results in Twilight getting sentenced to life imprisonment after surrendering, as humanity didn't need her to make a cure in this timeline. | |
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Ate His Gun | |
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Silver Spoon's body was found holding a vial of poison, and Halberd says that two of his soldiers slit their own throats. Before the Invasion, one of the recruits stole a gun and ate it. | |
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Magnetic Weapons | |
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Magnetic Weapons: Gauss Rifles are used by human soldiers in "Operation Freebird." They're described as being able to punch through nearly any type of armor the ponies wear. | |
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Batman Gambit | |
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Batman Gambit: Invoked - Celestia targeted the three Abrahamic religions' holy cities to be attacked in the hopes that seeing the destruction of their most religious cities, monuments, and icons would break humanity's will to fight. Instead, it achieved the exact opposite effect. | |
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Defector from Decadence | |
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Defector from Decadence: Not every pony agreed with what Celestia said about the humans and the necessity of ponification, and they accordingly defected to aid humanity. Lyra Heartstrings, Fluttershy (with Discord following out of his love for her), Carrot Top, Derpy Hooves, Dinky Doo, Braeburn, Moondancer, and Flash Sentry are among those Twilight knew personally who rebelled. General Valkyrie and the soldiers under her command also rebelled by trying to launch a coup, but they were put down by Celestia before they could do anything. | |
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The Man Behind the Man | |
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The Man Behind the Man: Grogar used Glida as his enforcer to lead the griffons while he manipulated them from the shadows. | |
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Foregone Conclusion | |
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Rainbow Dash gets one when she joins the EFF, ready to keep fighting the good fight. Unfortunately, it's a Foregone Conclusion thanks to Useless. | |
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Noodle Incident | |
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Noodle Incident: The actual details of the EFF's (failed) attempt to assassinate Twilight are left unrevealed, as the story cuts from Lightning Dust and Limestone Pie spending their last night together to the aftermath of Operation Queen's Fall where the captured EFF members are facing execution. | |
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No Body Left Behind | |
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No Body Left Behind: The firing squad that executed Celestia used magic-powered rifles that reduced her body to ash. Discord's body disappears in a flash of light after he dies. | |
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The Apocalypse Brings Out the Best in People | |
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The Apocalypse Brings Out the Best in People: Humanity was on the verge of WWIII before the Equestrians arrived and the Conversion War gave them a perfect reason to put their collective differences aside. While there were some extremist groups out there causing trouble, as well as some hiccups (as centuries of history don't just get washed away instantly), the threat of total annihilation sufficiently motivated people to better recognize the other's humanity came first. | |
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I Die Free | |
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I Die Free: Several members of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters, including their leader Sweetie Drops, committed suicide rather than let themselves be taken prisoner or killed by someone else when their home base was invaded by the Human-Pony Coalition in Useless. There are scattered mentions of incidents where humans that were splashed by the potion killed themselves rather than be transformed. Halberd describes one such incident that he witnessed personally, where the half-ponified victim shoots himself in the head before the transformation is complete. | |
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Humans Are Bastards | |
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Humans Are Bastards: Celestia certainly thinks so, while Twilight and Fluttershy have a more nuanced view. Halberd Wings goes as far as to declare that humanity should be wiped out completely after what they did to the Crystal Empire, believing them to be beyond "saving" at that point. While this is in part thanks to propaganda, it should be noted that Halberd is a soldier on the front lines and saw many of his friends die. | |
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Curb-Stomp Battle | |
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Curb-Stomp Battle: Celestia engages in one in the "Rejection" ending, where she takes everypony willing to listen on a ridiculous last stand against the human invasion fleet. The humans had forty million soldiers, and Celestia essentially ordered everypony capable of holding a weapon into mass suicide wave assaults. In the canon universe, half of Equestria's population died in the war in total, but thanks to this action, coined "The March of Fools", three-quarters of them did. | |
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Black Speech | |
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Black Speech: The voice that speaks to Princess Celestia speaks like this. Though readers can make out what it's saying if they look closely. | |
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Not Enough to Bury | |
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Not Enough to Bury: Of the Royal Family members who were killed in the war, Luna was the only one to get a proper funeral, even if her mangled, bullet-riddled corpse took two weeks to magically restore to a presentable state. Shining Armor's body was stuck with the humans and cremated, with his ashes dumped into the Hudson River, while Cadence and Flurry Heart were vaporized due to being at ground zero of the atomic detonation that destroyed the Crystal Empire. The anti-air plasma weapons used against the Wonderbolts in Choice leave little behind except bloody mist. | |
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Keystone Army | |
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Keystone Army: "Operation Freebird" shows that Equestria was one. Without any surviving alicorns to hand the country over to the United Nations peacefully, the resulting power vacuum led to the nation descending into civil war virtually overnight. The situation was so chaotic that the UN didn't even bother with the Invasion, and just let the ponies fight among themselves. | |
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Psychological Projection | |
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In the "Division" chapter of Choice, Rainbow Dash accuses Twilight and Fluttershy of being cowards and traitors "who cracked when the chips were down." Given Dash herself retreated from the battlefront after she cracked from the fear of seeing her fellow Wonderbolts getting massacred during the Invasion and left Scootaloo behind to die, her declarations of "cowardice" and "betrayal" ring hollow (though it's also strongly implied to be a case of Psychological Projection on her part). | |
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I'm Melting! | |
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I'm Melting!: During the Conversion War, plasma rifles were one of the many weapons developed by the humans, and any target shot with it is melted alive and disintegrated. When Lightning Dust is facing her execution, she hopes it won't be with one. | |
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Adaptational Heroism | |
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Adaptational Heroism: In canon, Daring Do joins the EFF. Here, she doesn't and is implied to be attempting to rebuild her life in the human areas of the world. | |
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Nay-Theist | |
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Nay-Theist: In Fallen, Celestia openly dismisses the idea of gods based on her belief that no prayers are ever answered. This comes crashing down in "Divine Justice", which shows that yes, God is real, and it goes by many names, Harmony being one of them. | |
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Broken Angel | |
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Broken Angel: After Celestia's capture and detainment by the humans at the end of the war, her wings were plucked of all their feathers and her horn was sawed off. | |
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Manipulative Bastard | |
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Manipulative Bastard: Celestia. She convinced the vast majority of her subjects to go along with forcibly converting mankind and wiping out their culture and planet by waging a violent war against them. Furthermore, after Shining Armor was killed, she exploited Cadence's grief to get her niece to use the Crystal Cannon against human cities. Choice goes into exactly how she manipulated Cadence, trying to drive her into a frenzy by telling Cadence that the humans were desecrating Shining Armor's body. It also reveals that while Celestia regretted doing so, since she knew it was cruel, she justified it on the grounds of "desperate times call for desperate measures" as the humans were putting up a much fiercer resistance than initially expected. | |
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Bittersweet Ending | |
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Bittersweet Ending: All of the endings to varying degrees. "Divine Justice": The good news is that Celestia is appropriately punished for her actions, the newfoals are restored back to their old human selves, and with Twilight's early surrender, Ponyville and Canterlot are spared destruction. The bad news is that the Mane Six's friendship is still irreparably shattered, as Twilight is sentenced to life in prison for her crimes against humanity, Pinkie Pie just completely mentally shuts down, Rainbow Dash still joined an anti-human terrorist group and was killed in action, and Applejack was killed in retribution for selling out her neighbors to the ESS. Rarity was the only one to turn out somewhat alright, and even then, she fell into alcoholism for several years. "Rejection": Celestia takes every pony willing to listen on a massive suicide attack Last Stand. This action, dubbed "The March of Fools", leads to Equestria suffering worse losses in population compared to the original timeline. And it all ends the same way with Twilight surrendering. "Operation Freebird" is heavier on the bitter aspects. While the raid to rescue Fluttershy and Martin does succeed and Celestia is neutralized, the experience leaves Fluttershy with heavy PTSD that she's still processing years later. Worse still, the deaths of Celestia and Twilight resulted in Equestria descending into a devastating Civil War with multiple different factions looking to gain control of the country in the power vacuum left behind. After an intervention from the UN, Equestria was split into three different nations that hate each other and refuse to unite, killing off the very idea of a unified Equestria forever. "Twilight Falls": On one hand, Twilight's rampage ends the war early and Equestria isn't so much invaded as much as it's held under the UN for rebuilding. Moreover, with so much of its central bureaucracy wiped out (namely the ESS), the anti-human resistance movements don't gain as much traction as they did in the original timeline. Plus, Fluttershy and Rarity survive and are able to rebuild their friendship. On the other hand, both are still pretty heavily traumatized by what they experienced and thousands of innocent lives were lost on that day. "Harmony's Chosen": The upside is that ten years after the surrender, humanity and ponykind have come to peacefully coexist alongside one another, while Fluttershy is Happily Married to Martin and has two children with him, and she even also made amends with both Twilight and Rarity, having forgiven both of them for what they have done. On the downside, Fluttershy's remaining friends have gotten worse as the years went by - Rainbow Dash was unable to move on from the war and is now a bitter alcoholic hermit who has driven off every person who cared about her, Applejack was sentenced to life in prison for selling out her neighbors to the EFF and then killed herself a few years later, and Pinkie Pie has completely mentally broken down and deluded herself into believing she's still living in Equestria with her friends. Also, while Twilight was able to give the newfoals their personalities back, she was unable to turn them back to their original human bodies due to lacking an important enzyme found in Discord's blood needed to make that part of the cure. | |
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Doomed Hometown | |
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Doomed Hometown: Ponyville, towards the close of the war, is bombed into oblivion. The original world where Equestria came from, twice over. | |
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Zerg Rush | |
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Zerg Rush: Celestia, having lost her mind in the "Rejection" ending, orders all her loyal supporters to use this tactic to defeat the humans once they invade. In the end, only 25% of the population survives the war and Twilight still ends up surrendering to mankind. | |
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Happy Place | |
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Happy Place: In "Harmony's Chosen", Pinkie Pie is living in an insane asylum and her mind has fully retreated into a delusional fantasy where all of her friends are still together and heroes of Equestria, and Fluttershy is married to Discord and they have children. When visiting her, Fluttershy decides not to tell her the truth for fear it would shatter her mind completely. | |
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Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right! | |
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Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right!: The ponies who rebelled against Celestia. Fluttershy in particular believed that converting the humans into something else went against nature. | |
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Tranquil Fury | |
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Tranquil Fury: Twilight displays this in Negotiations when she is reminded of Lyra's defection and those who followed. In Reunited, Fluttershy shows signs of this when she assures Twilight that everything that happened was Celestia's fault alone, as well as when she talks about the trauma that her adopted kids went through during the war and how it still affects them. | |
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GreyAndGreyMorality | |
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Grey-and-Grey Morality: Closer to Black-and-Grey Morality. On the one hand, Celestia had to make sure that her subjects would be safe and sound from the inevitable death of their world's sun, but her handling of the human situation really could've used some improvement. And humanity certainly wasn't going to take this act of aggression (wiping out their cultures, homes, history, etc) lying down now, would they? | |
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"Could Have Avoided This!" Plot | |
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In Truth, after learning the reasons behind Celestia's actions, Twilight asserts that although she can understand and even sympathize with the difficult situation Celestia was in at the time, she absolutely cannot forgive the fact that her former mentor dragged Equestria into an unnecessary and avoidable war that caused so much loss and suffering because she chose to believe in the worst of humanity and disregard all their good aspects rather than try to make peace with them. | |
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War Is Glorious | |
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War Is Glorious: Luna certainly thinks so at the start of the war and clearly revels in the glory and thrill of leading and fighting alongside her troops against the humans. In fact, she was even getting bored fighting the humans, as the Choice chapter "Glorification" reveals her regarding a battle in Rio de Janeiro as just being another chore to cross off her to-do list. However, as the Battle of Jerusalem in the "Damnation" arc shows, it's obvious she only thinks war is glorious when she's the toughest one on the battlefield, as she gradually loses her composure the longer the battle drags on and her troops start getting overwhelmed by humanity's firepower. | |
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Utopia Justifies the Means | |
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Utopia Justifies the Means: Celestia created the potion and the conversion bureaus because she was convinced the humans were too violent and savage to peacefully coexist with the ponies and figured it would make the humans truly better. | |
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You Have Failed Me | |
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You Have Failed Me: While it doesn't go as far as killing her, Celestia says this word-for-word to Twilight during her Villainous Breakdown in the last few days of the war. | |
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Stress Vomit | |
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Stress Vomit: Twice, over the same cause. In "Friendly Dragon", Spike breaks down losing his lunch and sobbing in grief after Fluttershy helps him realize that they abandoned everyone outside of Equestria in the dimensional jump and doomed them to extinction. In the "Divine Justice" ending, multiple ponies (including Rainbow Dash) vomit their guts out after being made to realize that in jumping Equestria to Earth, they left behind all the other non-ponies and non-Equestrian ponies to die. | |
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Death by Adaptation | |
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Death by Adaptation: Five of the six members of the School of Friendship are confirmed dead, seeing as how they're non-ponies who got left behind in Equestria's dimensional jump. In the "Rejection" ending, Celestia's suicidal Last Stand, also known as "The March of Fools", led to Equestria suffering a worse loss in the total population overall (close to three-quarters compared to the canon universe's half). In "Operation Freebird" Spike dies in battle with Celestia. Up until that point, no Negotiationsverse media had been created in which he failed to survive; in fact, he was the last surviving member of the Conversion War generation in the Distant Finale, which takes place three hundred years in the future. | |
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Race Against the Clock | |
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Race Against the Clock: Three hundred years before Nightmare Moon's return, Celestia discovered that Equus' sun was dying and so dedicated herself to try and find a way to save their entire world before it was too late. First, she tried to find a way to extend the sun's lifespan, but that (and everything else she tried after) failed, so she opted for the Homeworld Evacuation route. She searched high and low for a suitable dimension that could house their world, with Earth's dimension being the only one she found that was reasonably safe enough, but despite her best efforts, she was only able to save her own nation and species with what little time was left by that point. Once the tide of the war turned against the ponies, Twilight and Celestia started working around the clock to figure out a way to send Equestria somewhere, anywhere else. They didn't succeed before Twilight was forced to surrender. It was not helped by the fact that they used the Elements of Harmony to fuel Equestria's jump to Earth and they no longer worked since Fluttershy had defected years before and the Elements needed all six of its bearers to work. This still could have theoretically worked if they could kidnap Fluttershy and force her into compliance (as Celestia suggested), but by the time they were that desperate, Ponyville had been bombed by the advancing human forces and Pinkie Pie and Rarity were dead. | |
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Pretty Little Headshots | |
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Pretty Little Headshots: Choice averts this. It's made clear that when it was hit with a .50 caliber bullet, Shining Armor's head exploded, coating everything in a nearby radius (including his own soldiers) in blood and brain matter. | |
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Spiteful Spit | |
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Spiteful Spit: General Valkyrie spat in Celestia's face as a final act of defiance before being executed for treason after trying to instigate a Military Coup. Rainbow Dash gives one to Fluttershy in Fallen. Applejack gave one when Twilight begged her to stay following the surrender. | |
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Formerly Fit | |
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Formerly Fit: In the "Harmony's Chosen" ending, Rainbow Dash is stripped of her wartime achievements and banned from holding any position in the Equestrian military ever again due to participating in war crimes. With nothing else to live for, she becomes a bitter, overweight alcoholic, brooding about Equestria's and her own Glory Days. | |
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Lethal Letter Opener | |
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Lethal Letter Opener: In the Choice chapter "Abolition," after the Equestrian Freedom Fighters have failed to steal the Scroll of Ascension, Dusty Pages reveals her true colors as a traitor and the EFF's informant by trying to stab Twilight in the neck with a letter opener when her back is turned. Twilight simply grabs the tool using her telekinesis, confronts Dusty, and has her arrested. | |
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The Atoner | |
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The Atoner: Zigzagged for Twilight Sparkle in the different endings. In "Divine Justice", it's averted for her as Harmony turning all the Newfoals back into humans means that mankind doesn't need Twilight's help to reverse the effect of the Potion, so she's thrown in jail for the rest of her life. It's played straight in "Rejection," where she is noted to be researching the potion to find a way to cure the Newfoals. In "Operation Freebird", she is killed in the crossfire between Celestia and the military. Similarly to the first one, in "Harmony's Chosen", she's also thrown in prison for life, but she's still expected to find a way to reverse the conversion potion. "Harmony's Chosen, Part 2" shows Silent Step is this along with several other members of the ESS who feel ashamed of their actions during the course of the war. As he himself puts it, they are not asking for forgiveness but redemption. At Fluttershy's request, Silent Step gives out information about all the members of the ESS and the names of all the ponies who sold out their neighbors to the organization, and they've begun to release all the prisoners they captured as a show of good faith. | |
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Hit-and-Run Tactics | |
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Hit-and-Run Tactics: How the ponies waged war on the humans. They would teleport a large number of their forces into heavily populated cities (New York, Moscow, Tokyo, etc.), and then convert as many as they could while causing as much damage as possible before retreating, the downside being that such tactics required a lot of time for planning and could only be accomplished by either the alicorns or a large group of unicorns pooling their magic. Once the Thalmann Generators started being used, though, it became much more difficult to use these tactics due to the high magic cost necessary to overwhelm the dampening fields. Halberd states that this was the only way the ponies could fight in Sri Lanka... up until the humans just started firebombing the island. | |
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Early-Installment Weirdness | |
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Early-Installment Weirdness: Negotiations may be the first installment in the series, and unfortunately has a few inconsistencies between it and the rest of the series. Twilight wonders about what it would have been like if human technology and magic were put together. Later installments, like Warfare and Choice, made it clear that magitek (fusion of magic and technology) was common during the later parts of the war, and forms the basis for the Thalmann Generators, which are first introduced in this story. Choice even shows Twilight cursing the Resistance for defecting and allowing for the creation of the generators. Negotiations also says that no one had negotiated with the humans before, which is mentioned as not being the case in the timelines - there were ten years of peace that grew more strained as time went on, and the ponies did negotiate with other polities. Twilight mentions the "thousands, perhaps even hundreds of thousands," dead. The Crystal Empire alone is later mentioned as having 4 million ponies living in it at the time of its destruction. Twilight shows signs of agreeing with Celestia's Luddite philosophies, when Warfare and Choice establish that she was the one pushing for further development of technology to counter humanity's tech, and was the one behind Equestria's modernization program. This program gave the ponies Second World War-era technology... which was still defeated by science over a hundred years more advanced. Thalmann Generators are stated to have been introduced "mid-way" through the war. While the "mid-way" wording is a bit ambiguous, they were only brought out in the last year of the conflict. Twilight thinks that Applejack and Rainbow Dash joined a rebel group to continue the war... but Choice established that the two didn't join until after the negotiations were over. They did declare their friendship over after Twilight announced her decision to surrender, but the EFF did not contact Rainbow Dash until she got drunk in the wake of Twilight spilling the beans on the death of their homeworld, and Dash was the one who contacted Applejack. The Equestrian Secret Services were conceived in Choice and integrated into the main canon later on. Since this comes well after Useless, this means Choice also added in the fact that Applejack sold out her neighbors for extra cash to support herself and Applebloom, and Twilight and Fluttershy never knew. Zelkova made a little retroactive fix for this with the chapter "Documentation", revealing that a record keeper decided to destroy the evidence out of the belief that Twilight had enough bad memories associated with her former friend and didn't need this added on top of it. | |
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A God I Am Not | |
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A God I Am Not: When Cadence and Twilight ascended to alicorn status, they were worshiped as goddesses, which Spike notes was rather embarrassing and annoying for the two near-atheists. Though Spike's words seem to be a case of Early-Installment Weirdness, as Warfare establishes the Church of Harmony, which reveres Alicorns as gods. Much detail is gone into how the church and believers react to the deaths of Luna, Cadence, and Flurry Heart. | |
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Body Horror | |
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Body Horror: Celestia's appearance after her brutal fight with Spike in "Operation Freebird": half her body is burned to a crisp, her right eye is clawed out, her left wing is half gone, the right one ripped out entirely, and she's covered head-to-hoof in bullet wounds, bite marks, and gashes that bleed so bad she leaves a small river of blood behind her when walking. While she was victorious over Spike and killed him, the young dragon went down swinging and then some. | |
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Tears of Joy | |
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Tears of Joy: Shed by both Twilight and Fluttershy when they reconcile. Twilight sheds these again when she sees the candlelit vigil, equal numbers of humans and ponies alike, standing outside of her home right before she passes away. | |
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Disproportionate Retribution | |
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Celestia admits in Truth, Choice and Fallen that she absolutely cannot forgive humanity for killing Sunset Shimmer, whom she adopted and loved as a daughter. It counts as a case of Disproportionate Retribution as well, since Sunset was killed and eaten by a small group of tribal hunters. | |
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We Used to Be Friends | |
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We Used to Be Friends: The premise of Fallen is that Fluttershy's old friends try to convince her to side with them and use the Elements of Harmony again. Fluttershy's attitude and the other Bearers' mannerisms make it clear why the trope is "used to be" instead of "are currently." "Operation Freebird" has her spell it out to everypony. | |
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Brought Down to Badass | |
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Brought Down to Badass: While Discord and the alicorns' powers were sharply reduced from what they used to be in their home dimension (with them losing their immortality in the jump to Earth), they were still a force to be reckoned with. Discord's mischief made him an incredibly effective saboteur after he defected, while Celestia and Luna were still strong enough to take on entire armies of humans by themselves when they needed to. | |
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Drowning My Sorrows | |
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Drowning My Sorrows: According to her inner monologue, Lightning Dust started drinking heavily after getting kicked out of the Wonderbolts in "Wonderbolts Academy". | |
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Karmic Transformation | |
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Karmic Transformation: The basis of the story. For their crimes against humanity, the Pillars, as well as the spirits of fallen friends and family, turn Celestia, Twilight, Rainbow Dash, Rarity, Pinkie Pie, and Applejack into humans. | |
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This Is Unforgivable! | |
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This Is Unforgivable!: Applejack gets hit with this hard in the "Divine Justice" and "Harmony's Chosen" endings when it's revealed to the public that she sold out innocent ponies to the ESS for money. In the "Divine Justice" ending, the surviving Apple Family members disowned her (while accepting Braeburn back in and opening their home to his human husband) and the families of those she sold out tracked her down and killed her out of revenge. In the "Harmony's Chosen" ending, she's not only disowned by her surviving family members but is also sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole. | |
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If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him! | |
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If You Kill Him, You Will Be Just Like Him!: The Doctor invokes this when a human soldier asks why they don't just kill the ponies after everything they have done. The Doctor points out that if they go through with killing them then they will prove everything Princess Celestia is saying about the humans is right. The Doctor brings this upon himself where he remembers a conversation with someone debating over eliminating the Daleks permanently. He doesn't go through with it feeling he won't be no better than the Daleks but questions whether he made the right choice. | |
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At Least I Admit It | |
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"Regeneration, Part 3" has Discord call out Twilight, Cadence, and Shining Armor for blindly following Princess Celestia's every order without question, telling them they are all disgraces to the elements they are supposed to represent. Shining Armor throws this back at him calling Discord a monster for causing chaos and hurting innocent ponies for his own amusement and reminding him of how he betrayed everyone to work with Lord Tirek. Discord acknowledges this but admits the difference between them is that he admits that he was wrong. | |
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The Poorly Chosen One | |
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The Poorly Chosen One: In several endings, it's made clear that only Fluttershy is still viewed positively by the higher beings from Equestria, usually resulting in Celestia and the other Element Bearers' getting their powers and status revoked. | |
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Divided We Fall | |
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Divided We Fall: Subverted. Celestia's ultimatum (convert through ponification or be destroyed by the barrier) gave humanity the perfect reason to unite against a common threat. Celestia's targeting of the Abrahamic Religions' holy sites also averted this, as it just made those who followed those faiths furious. Ironically, given how Celestia and Equestria banked on the humans falling to this, it's played straight with the ponies. Equestria's warmongering drove Fluttershy, Discord, and the Resistance over to the side of the humans, where Discord became a hero by defending the human race and Moondancer helped create the Thalmann Generators, ensuring Equestria's defeat. Equestria itself fell deeper into Apocalypse Anarchy as it became clear they would lose the war. | |
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Fantastic Racism | |
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Fantastic Racism: Celestia explains that the reason she didn't trust any other race or nation with the knowledge regarding Equestria's Sun was that they either weren't as smart, were too barbaric, or wouldn't play well with "her Ponies." Fluttershy calls her out on it, as does Harmony. She also struggles to believe that the next generation of the Elements' bearers would have been composed primarily of non-ponies had she not jumped worlds. However, considering that Celestia didn't show disdain towards Spike and she didn't trust the ponies from Saddle Arabia, who are of the same race as her and her subjects, it is possible that Celestia's mistrust may have less to do with racist beliefs but rather that she can't trust anyone that is not Equestrian by culture. | |
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Hate Plague | |
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Hate Plague: Downplayed. Those left behind back in Equestria become angry, bitter, and resentful for not being chosen to escape on the ark that was New Haven. The Triumvirate would further fuel their hatred by using propaganda to say that everyone on Haven deliberately abandoned them and left them to die. | |
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Enemy Mine | |
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Enemy Mine: In the wake of the destruction of the Vatican and Mecca and the Battle of Jerusalem, the three Abrahamic Religions' devotees put aside thousands of years of differences just to focus on fighting the ponies. Fluttershy in Fallen flat-out states that humanity is uniting to take on Equestria, with even sworn enemies working together. She also mentions that the ponies, at the Hearths Warming, did this - teaming up as friends to fight the Windigoes and settle Equestria, when before they had been at each others' throats. | |
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Zero-Approval Gambit | |
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Zero-Approval Gambit: Played With in Truth - Celestia never planned for or intended it, but she is completely fine with being hated by everyone and remembered by future generations as a historical villain more despised than Hitler, Stalin, Bin Laden, Mao, and Pol Pot put together as long as it means that her ponies will be safe, forgiven, and able to peacefully coexist with humanity. It's to the point that she even makes Twilight promise to keep the reasons behind her actions secret because she fears the truth will damage the still-fragile peace between humanity and the ponies. | |
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You Cannot Kill an Idea | |
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You Cannot Kill An Idea: Examined by both sides of the war. Played straight when the ponies' destruction of Rome and Mecca only made the humans even more determined to win and subverted when Luna, Cadence, and Flurry Heart's deaths end up causing a Crisis of Faith in the ponies. | |
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Empty Promise | |
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Empty Promise: A lot of these were made after Equestria lost momentum in the war. | |
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Suddenly Shouting | |
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Suddenly Shouting: In Truth, after Twilight argues that Celestia had no right to force the humans to change themselves even for all their imperfections, Celestia does this, screaming that she couldn't let humanity's cultures "poison" Equestria's own. When Fluttershy told her friends she was defecting to aid Lyra's resistance, they initially tried to tell her she was just confused, prompting Fluttershy to roar at them and tell them that she knows what she's doing and won't change her mind. Celestia does this upon hearing that Lieutenant Long Haul and his army surrendered to the humans and are urging her to do the same. It's part of her breakdown. | |
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For Your Own Good | |
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For Your Own Good: One of the reasons Celestia tried to force ponification on the human race was her belief that it would resolve all of their problems and make them see "the light of friendship" which she felt they lacked. | |
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Underground Railroad | |
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Underground Railroad: The resistance created one to help ponies escape from Equestria during the war. | |
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We Are as Mayflies | |
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We Are as Mayflies: In Future, Spike has a good deal of angst over this, as he has outlived many of his friends and is afraid to pursue his feelings for Rebecca because he knows she'll die long before he does. | |
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Time Skip | |
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Rarity survives and she and Fluttershy reconcile after they're rescued. She still fell into alcoholism for a while but eventually made a full recovery and has been sober for ten years by the time of the twenty-year Time Skip. | |
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Painful Transformation | |
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Painful Transformation: Judging by the screams, the transformations that Celestia and the Mane 5 went through were not painless. | |
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Spanner in the Works | |
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Spanner in the Works: Before the barrier was destroyed, Discord would often teleport back to Equestria and act as a saboteur on humanity's behalf; he never killed anypony, but his methods proved to be very effective in distracting the ponies and giving his new allies a much-needed edge during the early days of the war. His sabotage of the Crystal Cannon prevented Jerusalem's destruction and allowed for mankind to counterattack with the Thalmann Generators. | |
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I Want My Beloved to Be Happy | |
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I Want My Beloved to Be Happy: Discord, despite loving Fluttershy, encouraged her to confess her love to Martin and graciously let her go, despite going on to regret it for the rest of his own life. | |
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Orphan's Ordeal | |
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Orphan's Ordeal: Twilight lost her entire family (save for Spike) and nearly all of her friends to the war. Fluttershy's adopted children share the same story. Halberd writes in his journal at one point about possibly adopting war orphans with Thundershot once the war is over, but that plan is canceled after Thundershot's death. | |
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Heel–Face Turn | |
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Heel–Face Turn: The revelation that Celestia was completely aware that all life on Equus would die from the sun and moon not moving anymore (or just from the sun's already soon-to-be-approaching death) after she transported Equestria to Earth compels Twilight to immediately renounce her former teacher, turn her over to the UN's custody, and demand that she be executed for her crimes. Once Twilight reveals this to the rest of the world, the other Equestrians are just as horrified and heartbroken and join her in renouncing Celestia, with only a small number of die-hard loyalists refusing to believe it. | |
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I Have Your Wife | |
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I Have Your Wife: Or, in this case, boyfriend. When Fluttershy refuses to work with them, Celestia reveals she's captured Fluttershy's human lover, Martin, keeping him imprisoned and tortured. | |
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Sanity Slippage | |
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Sanity Slippage: After the humans began using the Thalmaan Generators and quickly turned the war around in their favor, each subsequent loss for the ponies drove Celestia to madness until she snapped in a truly epic (and scary) fashion. | |
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Death World | |
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Death World: While searching for alternate dimensions that could safely house Equestria, Celestia chose Earth in the end because it was the only one she found among countless others that wasn't this. She states that the others she discovered were virtual Eldritch Locations that would instantly kill ponies due to their different laws of physics or were home to (sometimes incomprehensible) horrors that made humanity, at its worst, look benign in comparison. | |
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The Mutiny | |
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The Mutiny: Warfare and the Choice chapter "Obsession" describe an event in which the last pony army outside of Canterlot fell to this when the lower ranked soldiers rebelled against and killed their commanding officer who was stubbornly insistent that they fight in a Last Stand while they came to realize the pointlessness of it all and wanted to surrender. | |
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Rage Against the Mentor | |
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Rage Against the Mentor: The whole premise of Truth. Twilight loved and admired Celestia more than anypony else (even her own parents), trusting her judgment in spite of her own doubts, and in return, almost everything and everyone she cherished was taken from her, and she lets her former teacher know just how much pain she's had to endure because of that directly to Celestia's face. | |
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Even Evil Has Loved Ones | |
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Even Evil Has Loved Ones: For a given value of "evil". Halberd had his family and lover during the war, despite him being a speciesist who wanted to wipe out the human race. One of the reasons why Applejack so utterly despises the humans is because of the deaths of Big Mac (who died in the war) and Apple Bloom (who was killed in the bombing of Ponyville). Making sure her little sister could still have a good life was at least part of the reason why Applejack began selling ponies out to the ESS. Cadence, while prepping the Crystal Cannon for use during the war, breaks down in tears that she and Flurry Heart are never going to see Shining Armor ever again. She also notes that ever since her father died, Flurry has been mentally broken inside. In Choice, Twilight is shown to be around Cadence a lot to help comfort her in their time of loss following the death of Shining Armor. Part of the reason why Celestia has such a massive Villainous Breakdown late into the war is from losing much of her family, save Twilight and Spike. Furthermore, there's the fact that she's partially motivated by wanting revenge for Sunset Shimmer's death. | |
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Heroic Sacrifice | |
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Heroic Sacrifice: Princess Cadance charges towards a group of Daleks to allow both Fluttershy and Discord to escape from Fort Obsidian. | |
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World War III | |
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World War III: Humanity was on the verge of this before Equestria appeared. Celestia initially planned to use this to weaken the humans before swooping in and "rescuing" the survivors with the Conversion Bureaus. | |
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Robbing the Dead | |
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Robbing the Dead: After the Battle of Jerusalem, the humans took all of Luna's silver jewelry and melted it down, using it to begin to repair the damages to the Temple Mount, the Haram esh-Sharif. | |
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Maligned Mixed Marriage | |
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Maligned Mixed Marriage: The ponies still loyal to Celestia express disgust with ponies who are in romantic relationships with humans. The other Element Bearers don't get how Fluttershy could fall in love with Martin, even when she explains that he's a good man with a kind and loving heart. | |
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Dying as Yourself | |
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Dying as Yourself: In the penultimate chapter of Future, Discord pretends to pass on peacefully so he can then scare Spike with a sudden "BOO!" before dying for real. Spike can't help but be amused by this. Many human soldiers and civilians hit with the potion chose to commit suicide rather than let themselves be fully turned. | |
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Brought Down to Normal | |
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Brought Down to Normal: "Harmony's Chosen, Part 1" has Fluttershy using her newfound powers to strip Celestia and Twilight of their alicorn magic, reverting them back to unicorns. | |
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Breaking the Fellowship | |
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Breaking the Fellowship: The Element Bearers' once unbreakable friendship was shattered in the war. Fluttershy was the first to go when she defected to aid humanity, Pinkie Pie and Rarity died when Ponyville was bombed, and Applejack and Rainbow Dash, enraged by Twilight surrendering Equestria to the humans, joined an underground terrorist cell and were ultimately killed. | |
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Gilligan Cut | |
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Gilligan Cut: Happens more than once in Warfare due to its format. Halberd's entry for August 1 mentions how excited he is about going into his first battle, then ends. The entry for August 2 starts with him freaking out as he details how everything has gone horribly, horribly wrong. The entry for January 9 has Halberd expressing hope that the Crystal Cannon will be fixed up after Discord sabotaged it following the destruction of Rome and Mecca while noting the barrier is badly weakened thanks to continued assaults from the Thalmann Generators, with gaps around the Empire. Then comes the next entry, which is dated for January 11. In the entry for May 8th, Halberd's worried about how Thundershot is doing on the frontlines, but is certain he's still alive before a nurse calls him over to tell him something. Cue the next entry, with no date given. After Celestia is rendered comatose from the strain of protecting Canterlot from an aerial assault on July 17th, Halberd is absolutely certain that the Last Stand is about to begin and gets ready to fight and die. The next entry, which also doesn't have a date, reveals that no fight will occur, as Twilight has surrendered to humanity. | |
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Explain, Explain... Oh, Crap! | |
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This story sees Fluttershy (after a moment of realization) ask Twilight the same question Doyle asked her in Negotiations: "Who's been controlling the sun and moon in our world since [Equestria has] been [on Earth]?" | |
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Expressive Hair | |
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Along with dull coats and manes, Celestia, Applejack, and Rainbow Dash are all described as having these, as are what's left of the crystal ponies. | |
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Only the Chosen May Wield | |
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Only the Chosen May Wield: Played with in "Rejection" where the chosen become unchosen. When the Harmony Pylon is activated, it backfires, and then all the Elements except for Kindness break down and fade away after deeming their bearers unworthy, with Fluttershy being the sole exception. Played straight in "Harmony's Chosen" when all six Elements choose Fluttershy as their sole wielder, ascend her to alicorn status, and then change Celestia and Twilight back into unicorns as punishment for abusing their blessings. | |
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The Reveal | |
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The Reveal: Discord isn't from Equestria but a planet called Lokina which was destroyed by the Daleks. | |
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Hopeless War | |
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Hopeless War: The moment the barrier went down, the ponies were done for; they just didn't know it yet. It wasn't until Luna's brutal death that they even started to wonder if they might actually lose, but then the Barrier went down and the Crystal Empire was nuked; only then did the realization that their defeat was inevitable begin to percolate in the public consciousness. This realization was the basis for General Valkyrie's ill-fated coup. The final nail in the coffin came when Celestia's horn shattered from holding up the shield around Canterlot and she fell into a coma; while there wasn't a chance of victory at that point, it was the moment that things were made abundantly clear to everyone that all that was left was either surrender or die in a defiant Last Stand. By that point in Halberd's accounts, he doesn't even talk about beating the humans anymore, just to go out fighting defiantly. What's more, "Teleportation" of Choice shows that the Equestrian High Command knew that they couldn't hold off the assault, and not just because the military had to devote much of the remaining personnel to maintain social order. The Equestrian Freedom Fighters, in the wake of Twilight's surrender, tried both to continue the war and to rescue Celestia (who was comatose at the time). This failed for many reasons, not the least of which is that the EFF was barely a shadow of what Equestria at its peak was capable of bringing to the table, and Equestria at its peak was already soundly defeated by humanity. The other major goal of theirs was even more problematic, as Celestia's body was being guarded under heavy supervision in a top-secret facility to prevent either her waking up from her coma and wreaking havoc, humans seeking revenge by killing her in her sleep, or loyalists grabbing her and restarting the war. Since the EFF fell into that last group, the defenses were uniquely designed to stop them. Despite multiple attempts to get their hooves on Celestia, none succeeded. After Celestia's execution, the group lost all hope for any sort of victory. Up until the development of the Thalmann Generators, this was the war for humanity. The enemy could appear out of thin air at any time in a massive raid and convert your populace into more of themselves, with no known cure. And while ponies could be fought on the ground (as seen with the deaths of Big Macintosh and Shining Armor, both on raids of human cities), the hit-and-run nature of pony tactics meant that the humans would almost always be on the back foot. Even worse, offensive action against Equestria was impossible due to the barrier, since it couldn't be stopped by any known means and would take over the earth even more effectively than the ponies. This changed once the Thalmann Generators were created, which allowed all of these former advantages to be nullified. | |
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Unstoppable Rage | |
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Unstoppable Rage: Twilight after she witnesses Spike's death by the Daleks. | |
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Meaningful Name | |
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Meaningful Name: General Valkyrie, the leader of a failed Military Coup, got her name from Operation Valkyrie, which was, among other things, a failed assassination attempt on Hitler. The task force to hunt down the EFF, composed of mixed human and pony forces, is named "Centaur" after the mythological half-human half-horse creature. | |
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Endangered Species | |
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Endangered Species: Ninety percent of the crystal ponies were wiped out when the Empire was nuked, leaving only a few hundred survivors thanks to them being far away from the blast radius when it occurred. By the events of Future, however, their race is officially extinct thanks to the radiation poisoning-induced sterility that prevented them from reproducing. Alicorns, by the time the war begins, have only five members of the entire species (Celestia, Luna, Twilight Sparkle, Cadence, Flurry Heart). The war whittles their numbers down to just two by its end. After the war, Twilight locates the copies of the spell she used to ascend and destroys them, seeing the danger that the former Royal Family was able to inflict and not wanting anyone to recreate that. After Celestia's execution and Twilight's death, the race is extinct. By the Distant Finale of Warfare, Spike is the only dragon left in existence. | |
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Driven to Suicide | |
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The remaining Element Bearers go through this hard when they see the devastation the Harmony Cannon creates. Rarity, in particular, proclaims herself the Element of Genocide, and Pinkie Pie is Driven to Suicide. | |
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Villainous BSoD | |
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Villainous BSoD: The other Element Bearers (along with the other Celestia loyalists) fall into this in the "Divine Justice" ending after Fluttershy tells them to think about what's happened to the rest of the world they left behind in the dimensional jump without the princesses around to move the sun and moon anymore. Even Rainbow Dash and Applejack, the most radicalized of them, are horrified and heartbroken. Pinkie Pie's BSOD is especially bad, with her going far past the Despair Event Horizon, so much so, that she eventually was committed to a mental asylum for several years and never smiled since. It happens again in "Harmony's Chosen, Part 1". All of the girls fall into a state of shock when Fluttershy reveals the truth of what happened to their homeworld. | |
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Babies Ever After | |
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Babies Ever After: "Harmony's Chosen, Part 3" shows Fluttershy and Martin have two children, the alicorn twins Artemis and Apollo. | |
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The Journey Through Death | |
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The Journey Through Death: The main premise of the story is that Halberd needs to let go of the anger and hatred that's poisoned his soul so he can be able to pass over to a heavenly afterlife. If he doesn't, he'll become twisted into an ugly and horrific demonic monstrosity. | |
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My Greatest Failure | |
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My Greatest Failure: Rainbow Dash left Scootaloo behind to die when Equestria was invaded and she was frightened by the sheer carnage humanity wrought, her desire to make up for it becoming her motivation for joining the EFF. | |
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Culture Clash | |
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Culture Clash: While not helped by Celestia's own deliberate attempts to stoke the flames, this was a big reason why tensions began to mount between humans and ponies in the years after Equestria's emergence. The ponies were confused as to why the humans felt the need to question everything, even if the answer was uncomfortable to hear or didn't come easy, while the humans were angered at the ponies simply telling them just to accept things as they were without giving a reason. Their views on history were also vastly different, as the humans were very open about acknowledging their troubled past and used that to motivate themselves to improve as a species while the ponies simply scrubbed away the dark parts of their history and only talked about them if they needed to (and even then, it was in very sanitized ways). | |
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Godzilla Threshold | |
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Godzilla Threshold: Once the barrier was destroyed and Equestria was left wide open, Twilight and Celestia began training their forces in the usage of human weapons, technology, and vehicles in preparation for the inevitable counterattack and full-scale invasion mankind would soon deliver to their doorstep. Celestia convinced Cadence to use the Crystal Cannon on Mecca and Rome, deliberately targeting cultural centers to break the humans' spirits, out of desperation over how the war was dragging on. In exchange, the use of the cannon was the threshold for humanity, leading to a nuclear strike on the Crystal Empire. In the Choice chapter "Teleportation", once all other methods to try and force the Elements of Harmony to work have been exhausted, Celestia and Twilight gather up a bunch of valuable, irreplaceable, and powerful magical artifacts and divert all their magic into the Elements, destroying all of them in the process. It ends up being All for Nothing and results in another failure. | |
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Suicide by Cop | |
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Suicide by Cop: It's implied that this is how Rainbow Dash died in the "Divine Justice" and "Rejection" Endings, since (like the main story) she still joined a rebel group and was killed when it was destroyed. | |
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Adaptational Badass | |
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Adaptational Badass: This incarnation of Doctor Whooves is said to be so dangerous and powerful that Discord himself is afraid of him and just the mere mention of his name causes the worst monsters to tremble in fear. Discord mentions the Doctor was the one who imprisoned many of the creatures locked in Tartarus. He's saved and destroyed so many lives that some love him, others fear him, but all admire him for his actions. | |
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Spared by the Adaptation | |
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Spared by the Adaptation: Big Mac, with the rest of his comrades, gets captured as a POW in "Regeneration Part 4". Whereas in canon, he gets killed in action. In "Regeneration Part 8", the non-ponies in Equestria, who include Gabby, Pharynx, Iron Will, Capper and Captain Caelano, successfully flee with aid from the Doctor whereas their boat was sunk in the main story. | |
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Herr Doktor | |
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Herr Doktor: Professor Alric Thalmann is a brilliant German scientist who developed the Thalmann Generators, the anti-magic devices that were instrumental to humanity's victory in the Conversion War. | |
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Massive Numbered Siblings | |
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Massive Numbered Siblings: One of Spike's co-workers from Future, an earth pony named Beatstep, has six children and is expecting a seventh. The post-war timeline reveals that Lyra and Flash had four children in relatively quick succession. | |
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Les Collaborateurs | |
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Les Collaborateurs: This universe's version of the PER. The timeline mentions that during the second year of the Conversion War, groups of humans claiming to act in the interests of Equestria started performing acts of sabotage and terrorism to weaken human resistance efforts. They were quickly stamped out within a year after their emergence. | |
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Balkanize Me | |
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Equestria got divided into three different countries following a devastating civil war in the wake of the Canterlot Raid and the death of all the highest-ranking members of government. General Valkyrie survived long enough to beg the UN to intervene after five years of chaos. | |
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I Reject Your Reality | |
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I Reject Your Reality: According to Spike, many of the ponies who stayed loyal to the princesses and/or joined the Equestrian Freedom Fighters didn't believe or care that Celestia abandoned the other races when jumping Equestria to Earth. In Choice, Rainbow Dash is shown to believe that the humans forced Twilight to say all those things to deliberately break the ponies' faith. | |
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Percussive Therapy | |
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Twilight herself has one in the Choice chapter "Teleportation". After spending over four months working herself to the bones trying and failing to get the Elements of Harmony to activate so she and Celestia could jump Equestria off Earth and onto another world, she breaks down sobbing and screaming, throwing things around in her lab in a rage, and grabbing her tiara, begging to know why the Elements aren't working. | |
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Armor-Piercing Question | |
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Armor-Piercing Question: Given by Mr. Doyle to Twilight near the end of the first story: "Who's been controlling the sun and moon in your old world since you've been here?" Twilight asks Celestia a series of these in Truth. | |
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"The Reason You Suck" Speech | |
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"The Reason You Suck" Speech: Lyra, with assistance from The Doctor, delivers a big one to the entirety of Equestria in "Regeneration Part 7". This manages to effectively sow doubt and dissent within the population especially when she reveals that Equus is now effectively dead since Equestria left with no one to control its sun and moon. | |
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I Coulda Been a Contender! | |
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I Coulda Been a Contender!: In the "Divine Justice" ending, Harmony reveals that there were six students, only one of them being a pony, who would have become the new wielders of the Elements of Harmony and would have been the ones to fix the dying sun. But because Celestia teleported Equestria to Earth, five of them are dead due to being left behind on Equus while the sixth is alive but emotionally broken from the war he was forced into. | |
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Developing Doomed Characters | |
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Developing Doomed Characters: Given the fate of characters such as Rarity, the CMC, Princess Cadence, Princess Flurry Heart, and many others by the time of Negotiations, this is naturally a given in Choice. | |
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Nice Job Breaking It, Hero! | |
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Nice Job Breaking It, Hero: In "Excommunicated", Celestia was aware of the threat of the Ethereals, but the Barrier kept Equestria safe, and by the time the Ethereals were in a position to invade the Earth, the Barrier would have covered the whole world. Thus, they would be a non-issue... except that in order to survive, humanity destroyed the Barrier. | |
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How We Got Here | |
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How We Got Here: Negotiations is the first story in the series and begins after Equestria has already lost the Conversion War. Several other installments in the series, such as Warfare and Choice, detail the war itself. | |
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Black Eyes of Evil | |
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Black Eyes of Evil: Celestia briefly gains these after being influenced by (who is eventually revealed to be) the Black Guardian. Even Spike and Flurry Heart, the only people who notice, described them as such. | |
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Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking | |
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Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking: After the New Haven nation (a nation consisting of 100,000 members of each race of Equus) appears on Earth, humans' reactions are such: | |
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Humble Pie | |
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Halberd Wings, the protagonist of Warfare, starts off being confident and sure that Equestria will defeat the humans and is convinced fully of the righteousness of their cause. A few brutal battles, losing his comrades, and the death of Luna during the Battle of Jerusalem all force him to eat a fat slice of Humble Pie. | |
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It Amused Me | |
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Discord finds humans very fascinating with them being very random and sometimes extreme creatures. This, coupled with his love for Fluttershy and simply for his own amusement, is why he decided to help humanity in the war. | |
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Opportunistic Vendors | |
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Opportunistic Vendors: Defied in Choice. When Princess Luna is killed in battle during the Conversion War, some businessponies try to profit off of the tragedy, but are immediately shunned for their tasteless and insensitive actions. | |
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Magitek | |
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Magitek: The Thalmann Anti-Magic Generators, created from human technology fused with pony magic. New guns and military vehicles capable of firing lasers were also made with the same method. After the war, things made from fusions of magic and technology became accessible to the public as a part of everyday life, rather than being reserved solely for military usage. | |
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Stepford Smiler | |
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Stepford Smiler: Pinkie Pie has fallen deep into this, treating the war with an "out of sight, out of mind" mentality and trying to lift everyone's moods, much to their annoyance. | |
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Alternate Universe | |
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Alternate Universe: Fallen takes place in a world where Fluttershy was captured and Discord was killed after the destruction of the Crystal Empire. | |
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Interspecies Romance | |
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Interspecies Romance: As humans and ponies mingled after Equestria's emergence on Earth, some got into relationships with each other (two notable couples include Fluttershy and her husband Martin and Braeburn and his partner). In-universe, such relationships are viewed as either a way for the two races to reach peace and healing together after the conflict or unnatural and sick. In Future, Spike begins to pursue a relationship with a human artist named Rebecca. The final chapter of Warfare shows that they're engaged. Trixie had one with a woman named Xu Lin. When Xu was killed by the EFF, Trixie went undercover in the EFF in an attempt to destroy them from the inside and ultimately sacrificed herself to save Twilight from Rainbow Dash and Applejack's assassination attempt. Her last wish was to be buried next to Xu Lin. | |
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Broken Pedestal | |
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Broken Pedestal: The Alicorns suffered this pretty badly during the war as the humans proved able to best and kill the beings that were practically Physical Gods to the ponies. In the first story, Twilight goes through an especially painful one regarding Celestia, who was not only her teacher and mentor but also a second mother to her. While Celestia's clear Sanity Slippage and refusal to surrender even as the country was being razed to the ground tempered it, finding out that she knowingly left the other races living outside of Equestria's border behind to die in the dimensional jump since there was no one else around to move the sun and moon anymore is what destroys any and all love and admiration Twilight used to have in her. The majority of the rest of the surviving ponies follow suit; the few who don't are members of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters. Halberd Wings gets this and how. He, along with nearly every pony under the princesses' rule, was raised to believe that alicorns were deities; even Flurry Heart was viewed as a young goddess. But Luna's demise sent the Equestrians into a severe crisis of faith since, according to their religion, alicorns are not only unkillable, they're supposed to lead ponykind in a final battle against evil in their version of Armageddon. Seeing one of the beings they worshiped for generations die revealed that a lot of the prophecies and faith they relied on for morale were wrong. Furthermore, Halberd becomes enraged with Twilight when she surrenders to humanity, disavowing her as a traitor to Celestia and the values of Equestria. Daring Do is this to many ponies when it was discovered she was a member of the EFF after she was killed, even going as far as burning all her books. | |
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Go Out with a Smile | |
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Go Out with a Smile: Lightning Dust and Limestone Pie share a smile just before being executed by firing squad. | |
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Humiliation Conga | |
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Humiliation Conga: The Equestrians got this hard once humanity figured out a way around their magical advantages and destroyed the barrier: Luna was slain in the Battle of Jerusalem, the Crystal Empire was nuked (taking Cadence and Flurry Heart with it), Ponyville was bombed, Canterlot besieged, and Celestia fell into a coma after exhausting all her magical energy to protect what was left of her forces, forcing the ponies to surrender at last. By the time Twilight meets with Anthony Doyle of the UN's Peacekeeping Department in Negotiations, Equestria basically has a metaphorical gun pointed at its head with humanity more than willing to pull the trigger if they try anything funny. | |
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Absolute Xenophobe | |
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Absolute Xenophobe: Celestia's hidden plan, which Twilight found after the war, was to make Earth into a world for ponies - and only for ponies. Were it not for the Resistance and the defectors, she likely would have gotten her way eventually. In Truth and Fallen, it's revealed that Celestia did not trust the other races with the information that the Sun would die, fearing that it would lead to mass panic and strife, and didn't think they would have had much to offer in terms of helping to find a solution to fix it. Moreover, while she didn't actually want to leave them behind to die, she was willing to do so simply to save her nation and subjects and justified her choice on those grounds. | |
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Civil War | |
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"Operation Freebird" is heavier on the bitter aspects. While the raid to rescue Fluttershy and Martin does succeed and Celestia is neutralized, the experience leaves Fluttershy with heavy PTSD that she's still processing years later. Worse still, the deaths of Celestia and Twilight resulted in Equestria descending into a devastating Civil War with multiple different factions looking to gain control of the country in the power vacuum left behind. After an intervention from the UN, Equestria was split into three different nations that hate each other and refuse to unite, killing off the very idea of a unified Equestria forever. | |
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Go Mad from the Revelation | |
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Go Mad from the Revelation: In "Harmony's Chosen", Pinkie loses her mind after seeing Fluttershy transform into an alicorn, become the new bearer of all six Elements, and use their power to instantly defeat Celestia and Twilight. She is declared legally insane and is the only one of the fallen Elements who does not go to trial. | |
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Mind Rape | |
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Mind Rape: What the potion does to its victims, naturally. We don't meet any of this universe's newfoals, but Anthony Doyle describes them as mindless drones that despise everything about humanity while praising Celestia and ponykind incessantly. Halberd describes them as "unsettling" and that they do whatever anypony asks of them without complaint, up to and including sex. Part of the negotiations include both finding a way to undo this effect on the existing newfoals, but also creating a version of the potion that allows one to transform without the mind alterations. | |
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Deconstructed Trope | |
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Deconstructed with Celestia. The ponies' reverence of her meant that they went along with her plan to go to Earth and assimilate humanity without question, and never once thought about any of the implications of this until it was too late. Twilight herself never even considered that Celestia could do anything as monstrous as leaving behind their entire planet to die and it takes Anthony Doyle's Armor-Piercing Question for her to even begin thinking about it fifteen years after the fact. This fanaticism cost Celestia's people nearly everything they had, so it's no surprise that the majority of them turned against her once the full extent of her atrocities came to light. Choice, as well as Lyra and her Resistance, show that it wasn't completely at 100%, as more than a few ponies had reservations about the war and Celestia's plans. However, as Captain Parabola notes, Celestia set up propaganda as well as Secret Police to root out those who opposed the war, which radicalized the remaining ponies (thus reinforcing their adoration of her) and drove those who were doubtful of the war to be quieter about expressing any dissent. | |
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Ragtag Bunch of Misfits | |
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Ragtag Bunch of Misfits: The five-pony squad sent by the EFF to steal the Scroll of Ascension from Castle Canterlot consists of a unicorn courier named Hot Stepper, an earth pony ex-royal guard named Rhinestone, a unicorn dentist named Minty Fresh, a pegasus clown named Big Top and an earth pony botanist named Prickly Bramble. | |
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There Is No Kill Like Overkill | |
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There Is No Kill Like Overkill: This is what happened to Luna in the Battle of Jerusalem courtesy of More Dakka. The humans wanted to be absolutely certain that she was as dead as dead could be, as well as send a message to Equestria that their goddesses were not invincible. What was left of her resembled ground meat with bits of blue fur and feathers. In both Future and Fallen, it's stated that it took Celestia over two weeks to repair Luna's corpse with magic and paying expensive preppers to make it look presentable enough to have a state funeral. | |
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Anachronic Order | |
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Anachronic Order: While the events from Negotiations to Future happen in chronological order, Warfare is a story of the war (thus being a prequel to Negotiations) and Choice is a collection of shorts depicting major choices that happen in the 'verse, and shows multiple events that happened during and after the war, but not necessarily in order. A chapter about the development of the Thalmann Generators (the device that allowed mankind to win the war) took place after a chapter where Rainbow Dash joins the EFF, which took place after the war. Subverted as the chapters would be later reorganized in chronological order. | |
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United Nations Is a Superpower | |
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United Nations Is a Superpower: The UN is stated to have become a lot more powerful and far more of a peacekeeping entity during and after the war. | |
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Took a Level in Jerkass | |
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Took a Level in Jerkass: Following the battle at Osaka and the injuries she suffered along with the death of Shining Armor, Twilight has become cold and distant from everypony around her. | |
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Didn't Think This Through | |
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Didn't Think This Through: After being kicked out of the Wonderbolts for endangering several ponies with an out-of-control tornado, Lightning Dust tried starting her own aerial stunt team, the Washouts, with no safety regulations. Apparently, she never considered that those exist for a reason, as the team went broke and ended up having to shut down after too many complaints about reckless endangerment. | |
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Wham Episode | |
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Wham Episode: Part 8 sees Twilight fully snap following Shining's death, resulting in her taking out most of the East Coast with the Harmony Cannon. Part 13. The Sun wasn't actually dying (specifically being millions of years away from dying), Celestia was shown false visions this whole time, and that is what caused these events to transpire. And, as the cherry on top, it turns out the Greater-Scope Villain this whole time was in reality the Black Guardian. | |
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Asshole Victim | |
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Applejack's fate is the most tragic: the Apple Clan disowned her and she was later hunted down and lynched by the loved ones of the ponies she sold out to the ESS. Nobody mourned her passing and even Fluttershy hopes she's burning in Hell. | |
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Medieval Stasis | |
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Medieval Stasis: Fluttershy inwardly notes that this was discussed extensively among the defectors when comparing how humanity developed versus how Equestria developed. Many possible theories were thrown around - Lyra believed Celestia was deliberately holding Equestria back, Flash Sentry theorized that the lack of any true competitors made Equestria complacent, and Derpy hypothesized that the ponies relied too much on magic because it made things so easy for them. | |
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Token Good Teammate | |
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Token Good Teammate: Spike. He never supported the war and only went along with it because he trusted Twilight. He's also the only one who listens to Fluttershy, commits a Heel–Face Turn (though he's not a villain), and joins the resistance. This doesn't go anywhere in the "Divine Justice" and "Rejection" endings, but "Operation: Freebird" has it result in him providing the UN with info regarding how Fluttershy is a) alive and b) scheduled for execution. He dies fighting and severely wounding Celestia. | |
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Recycled IN SPACE! | |
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Recycled In Space: Warfare is basically All Quiet on the Western Front but with ponies instead of Germans. | |
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Laser-Guided Karma | |
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Laser-Guided Karma: Celestia and Twilight are both subjected to this in "Harmony's Chosen" when Fluttershy uses the power of all six elements to turn them back into unicorns, but then, as a side effect, Celestia's age catches up with her and she grows old and dies in Twilight's arms in less than a minute. | |
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Military Coup | |
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Military Coup: In the final weeks of the conflict, a group of Royal Guards led by the rebellious General Valkyrie tried to stage one after they realized that Equestria had no hope of winning the war and Celestia wasn't going to stop. They poisoned her and then moved to take over Canterlot after she died so they could peacefully surrender to the humans' forces, only to walk into a trap where Celestia revealed that she survived their assassination attempt thanks to her alicorn biology. Most of the conspirators were killed in the ensuing scuffle and the survivors were executed for treason, with Celestia carrying out Valkyrie's personally, and all their heads were put on pikes along the palace walls as a message to any other would-be dissenters. In the third year of the war, a group of rebellious generals launched one against the Kim Dynasty in North Korea, setting the Korean Peninsula on the road to reunification. Due to the pressures of the war, many of the survivors got pardons in exchange for helping out in the Conversion War. | |
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Apocalypse How | |
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Apocalypse How: One of a planetary scale is the fate of Equus in the absence of the alicorn princesses - without Celestia and Luna to move the sun and moon, every living thing on that planet is now dead, either burned to a crisp on one half of the world or frozen to death on the other. This realization solidifies Twilight's Heel–Face Turn, but later we find out that Equus was already doomed from the get-go because its sun was already dying. Earth goes through at least a Regional/Continental one. Mr. Doyle reveals that mankind lost half their nations - Australia, New Zealand, Southeast Asia, and good portions of Africa and South America were among those overtaken by the barrier while much of the Middle East, parts of China, and certain major cities (like New York, London, Rio de Janeiro, Berlin, Moscow, Rome, and Mecca) were destroyed in the battles - and human casualties are estimated to be numbering at over three billion people because of the war, but reconstruction efforts are underway, including finding a cure for those afflicted with the ponification potion. | |
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The Bus Came Back | |
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The Bus Came Back: Anthony Doyle, who only appeared in the first story, returns in "Harmony's Chosen, Part 2". | |
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Revenge | |
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Revenge: While not the primary motivation behind her actions against mankind, Celestia admits that she was partially driven by this after a group of African bushmen killed and ate Sunset Shimmer when she went to Earth to scope it out. The Choice chapter "Decision" implies that it was a bigger factor in the war than she had let on previously. In the Fallen chapter "Humanity's Sins", she's forced to admit that the incident did play a major role in her overall perception of humanity. After Celestia's true crimes were exposed, her former subjects ransacked her palace and wiped it clean of all valuables to get back at her for nearly ruining their race with her leadership. Mankind dropped a nuke on the Crystal Empire to avenge the loss of Rome and Mecca after they were destroyed by the ponies' own WMD, the Crystal Cannon. After the Crystal Empire was obliterated, Halberd Wings vowed to destroy all humans as payback for the deaths of Cadence, Flurry Heart, and the four million crystal ponies that were killed in the blast. Later on, he goes a step further and vows to enslave and mutilate humans after losing both his wings and Thundershot in battle. Applejack and Rainbow Dash joined the Equestrian Freedom Fighters to get back at the humans for their own personal losses, and at one point attempted to assassinate Twilight for surrendering to the humans. They are not the only ones to do so. After the EFF killed her human lover, Trixie vowed to avenge her by infiltrating the organization and feeding critical information about their plans to the authorities that helped destroy them in the end, but at the cost of her own life. | |
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Questionable Consent | |
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Questionable Consent: This applies as the Newfoals are complete and total Extreme Doormats who never say no to anything natural-born ponies ask of them, including requests for sex, making any compliance on their end not truly driven by free will. | |
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War Hero | |
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War Hero: In a rare case of an unnamed character being one, the sniper who killed Shining Armor is highly decorated for it and viewed highly. While his name was not spoken in the stories themselves, the timeline of the war gives his name as Pablo Carvallo. | |
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Villainous Breakdown | |
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Villainous Breakdown: Celestia, of course. In "Divine Justice", after Harmony reveals to the Celestia loyalists that the rest of the population of Equus was left behind to die after Equestria was jumped to Earth and Celestia is accordingly called out for it, she's frothing at the mouth, ranting and screaming at the top of her lungs about how she had no other choice but to do it to save everyone and calls them all ungrateful for her "sacrifices". In "Rejection", she has one when the Elements not only fail to help her but instead help Fluttershy and Martin escape. She then orders every pony (including the foals) to get whatever weapons they can and fight the human assault head-on, knowing that they'll all die. In "Operation Freebird", she's so far gone and so angry at Fluttershy that she doesn't even notice when she accidentally vaporizes Twilight. In "Harmony's Chosen", she attacks Fluttershy (now an alicorn and wielding all six Elements) with dark magic and orders Twilight to do the same. It's a No-Sell. | |
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Heel Realization | |
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Heel Realization: As Mr. Doyle slowly reveals to Twilight just how many crimes Celestia had her subjects commit against the humans, as well as committed herself, she realizes for the first time that the humans weren't the villains in the war, the ponies were. | |
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Defiant to the End | |
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Defiant to the End: While being led to their executions, some EFF members shout that their comrades will avenge them. | |
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Big "YES!" | |
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Big "YES!": At the end of part one of "Harmony's Chosen", this is Fluttershy's reaction when Martin asks her to marry him. | |
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Never My Fault | |
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Never My Fault: In "Rejection", when the Elements of Harmony sans Kindness wither away, Celestia and the other Bearers all blame Fluttershy due to her defection, rather than consider that Fluttershy is the only one who still embodies her element while they lost their right to bear theirs due to supporting the war. | |
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Screw You, Elves! | |
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Screw You, Elves!: Humanity was not flattered by the ponies' Holier Than Thou judgemental attitudes and after Celestia delivered her "convert or be wiped out" ultimatum, the humans collectively put aside their differences to fight back against her genocidal designs and proceeded to hand Equestria its flank on a platter by decisively defeating them in the subsequent war. During the first story, Anthony Doyle shuts down any posturing from Twilight by noting the ponies have many of their own flaws and dark chapters in their history, making any claims of moral superiority hollow and hypocritical. | |
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Revenge Before Reason | |
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Revenge Before Reason: Princess Celestia and Twilight are so obsessed with winning the war and defeating the Doctor respectively they refuse to listen to reason. They insist on continuing even when Princess Luna points out that their nation is falling apart and their army is stretched too thin to do anything. | |
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Superweapon Surprise | |
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Superweapon Surprise: Humanity first used the Thalmann Anti-Magic Generators during the Battle of Jerusalem, which took the ponies by complete surprise, as they had no idea how to counter against a weapon that turned their greatest advantage moot. The Crystal Cannon was a surprise not just when it was rediscovered, but when Cadence proved willing to use it. | |
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Getting Smilies Painted on Your Soul | |
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Getting Smilies Painted on Your Soul: Par for the course for a deconstruction of The Conversion Bureau. Aside from turning humans into mindlessly smiling pony-shaped Extreme Doormat automatons that sing the princesses praises all day long, Twilight admits that even when she still had complete faith in Celestia, the newfoals always rubbed her the wrong way with how they always seemed to be too nice and happy. | |
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"Not So Different" Remark | |
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"Not So Different" Remark: Garen shows Halberd that ponies were just as divided, greedy, selfish, and violent in their past as the humans before the establishment of Equestria and Celestia and Luna's rule. The Crystal Empire in particular was not always a benevolent place, conquering and enslaving other races. | |
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Better to Die than Be Killed | |
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Better to Die than Be Killed: "Excommunicated" establishes that EFF members have cyanide capsules in their teeth. While this was canonized in "Abolition", it also serves as a way to turn the EFF into this universe's version of EXALT, whose operatives would perform this trope if you try to capture them. | |
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Unwitting Instigator of Doom | |
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Unwitting Instigator of Doom: While it was far from the only reason why, the group of African tribal hunters who killed and ate Sunset Shimmer, who was not just Celestia's pupil but also her adopted daughter, played a not insignificant role in Celestia's belief that humans and ponies could not coexist peacefully long before Equestria even arrived on Earth. | |
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Nothing Is the Same Anymore | |
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Part 13. The Sun wasn't actually dying (specifically being millions of years away from dying), Celestia was shown false visions this whole time, and that is what caused these events to transpire. And, as the cherry on top, it turns out the Greater-Scope Villain this whole time was in reality the Black Guardian. | |
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Dishonored Dead | |
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Dishonored Dead: For their crimes, the executed members of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters are buried without ceremony in a graveyard outside Canterlot known as Traitor's End. | |
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Intrigued by Humanity | |
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Intrigued by Humanity: In general, before the war kicked off, the ponies were enthralled by humanity's many different cultures and accomplishments as a species that didn't have magic. More specifically: Discord finds humans very fascinating with them being very random and sometimes extreme creatures. This, coupled with his love for Fluttershy and simply for his own amusement, is why he decided to help humanity in the war. Moondancer is seen watching anime with other humans in "Innovation" in Choice. Before the war, Scootaloo had several online friends and would watch videos on human weapons. | |
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HA HA HA—No | |
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HA HA HA—No: After being captured by the pony forces, Fluttershy's reaction when she hears that Celestia wants her to help use her Element of Harmony to create a new barrier to protect Equestria. | |
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Greater-Scope Villain | |
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Greater-Scope Villain: From "Regeneration Part 7" onwards, a voice that only Princess Celestia can hear is pushing her to destroy the Doctor by any means necessary. "Regeneration Part 8" heavily implies the voice to be that of The Master. The end of Part 10 confirms there is a mysterious figure acting behind the scenes, while Part 13 upends the applecart by revealing it's actually the Black Guardian. | |
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Stranger in a Familiar Land | |
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Stranger in a Familiar Land: Spike thinks that this would have been the case for Halberd had he not killed himself in despair following the surrender, based on what Spike read of his journal. The war had twisted Halberd and burned away all that was positive, leaving only a hateful and bitter shell. | |
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Death by Irony | |
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The cruelest example comes from the "Devastation" chapter of Choice: Applejack sold out innocent ponies to the ESS for money to keep the farm afloat and make sure Applebloom had a good life. Then Ponyville gets bombed, the farm is destroyed, and Applebloom is killed by a piece of shrapnel when their house blows up. The kicker? Said shrapnel was a golden bit. | |
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Took a Level in Badass | |
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Took a Level in Badass: Fluttershy trained to be a combat medic during the war and would often travel to the front lines to help wounded soldiers despite the danger. Many other Equestrian defectors are noted to have done the same. | |
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One-Man Army | |
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One-Man Army: More like one mare army with regards to Celestia and Luna. Even though their powers were greatly reduced during the jump from Equus to Earth, they could still put up a hard fight and gave humanity's forces a great deal of grief, if the descriptions of their respective final stands in Canterlot and Jerusalem are of any indication. Even after everything, Halberd reports that the Princesses were able to secure several victories against the human armies on Equestrian soil. Discord was also capable of doing this, having single-handedly stopped the raid on Ottawa (naturally, dressed as a Mounty the whole time). | |
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Nuclear Option | |
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Nuclear Option: The ponies used their Crystal Cannon superweapon to destroy Mecca and Rome. Humanity then used a nuclear warhead to obliterate the Crystal Empire in retaliation. Averted during the human invasion of Equestria - while other forbidden weapons, such as chemical ones, are permitted during the campaign, nuclear weapons are forbidden by the UN during this time. | |
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It's Personal | |
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The ponies would often attack and destroy holy sites to eradicate the religions they believed were an affront to the princesses they worshipped as goddesses. When the human resistance efforts proved much stronger than initially anticipated, the Equestrian royals attempted to invoke this on a bigger scale by attacking and destroying the three Abrahamic religious cities in the hopes that it would demoralize the humans. Instead, it only made the humans angrier and galvanized many Christians, Muslims, and Jews around the world to join the fight. | |
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Evil Luddite | |
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Once the barrier was destroyed and Equestria was left wide open, Twilight and Celestia began training their forces in the usage of human weapons, technology, and vehicles in preparation for the inevitable counterattack and full-scale invasion mankind would soon deliver to their doorstep. | |
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My God, What Have I Done? | |
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My God, What Have I Done?: The remaining Element Bearers go through this hard when they see the devastation the Harmony Cannon creates. Rarity, in particular, proclaims herself the Element of Genocide, and Pinkie Pie is Driven to Suicide. Equestria itself goes through this after learning of all the lives that were lost from the Harmony Cannon. Half of the land and its cities are seceding and they are demanding that the Princesses step down as leaders of their nation. Twilight full on breaks once the Doctor reveals Equestria moving planets and entering the war with humanity effectively erased a harmonius future. Meanwhile, Celestia gets it worse when the Doctor spells out that the Sun would've taken millions of years to die, and that she was fed a woefully inaccurate timetable. | |
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Smash the Symbol | |
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Smash the Symbol: Both sides of the war engaged in this. The ponies would often attack and destroy holy sites to eradicate the religions they believed were an affront to the princesses they worshipped as goddesses. When the human resistance efforts proved much stronger than initially anticipated, the Equestrian royals attempted to invoke this on a bigger scale by attacking and destroying the three Abrahamic religious cities in the hopes that it would demoralize the humans. Instead, it only made the humans angrier and galvanized many Christians, Muslims, and Jews around the world to join the fight. The humans retaliated against the ponies attacking Rome, Mecca, and Jerusalem by attacking the Crystal Empire. On a smaller scale, they also melted down Luna's royal jewelry and used it to fix up some of the damage done to the Temple Mount after the Battle of Jerusalem. | |
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Believing Their Own Lies | |
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Believing Their Own Lies: The chapter "Fallen Star" has Celestia use a lie-detecting spell to try to prove her intentions to Fluttershy. Even though it doesn't trip, Fluttershy still proves able to counter her logic. | |
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I Just Shot Marvin in the Face | |
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I Just Shot Marvin in the Face: The ponies got around to making firearms to try and give themselves an edge near the end of the war. The initial result? A number of soldiers were hurt or killed after several accidentally shot themselves and others during training, as they had no concept of gun safety. We hear Halberd talk about this in Warfare but get to see it firsthand in Choice. | |
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Eye Scream | |
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Eye Scream: Limestone loses an eye during Operation Queen's Fall; not that it matters much since she's executed soon after. | |
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Sentenced Without Trial | |
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Sentenced Without Trial: After Fluttershy defected from Equestria to aid humanity in the Conversion War, the Equestrian Secret Service was given free rein to round up and arrest ponies accused of hampering Equestria's efforts in the Conversion War. Anypony accused of being disloyal to Equestria's mission to "spread harmony and friendship to the humans", being too sympathetic to humanity, or not contributing enough to the war effort was arrested and sentenced indefinitely to hard labor in the work camps. | |
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Post-Support Regret | |
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Post-Support Regret: Happens in the "Divine Justice" ending. When Celestia's deliberate abandonment of the other races is revealed, the other attendees are disgusted and horrified, and Twilight is especially devastated with guilt. | |
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The Promise | |
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The Promise: Twilight makes a vow to Celestia that she will never reveal the truth behind the latter's actions in order to preserve the peace between humans and ponies. In Rest, we see that Lyra and several other UN employees also know the truth thanks to the recordings taken at the time; they also vowed to remain silent on it so as to not make Celestia look like a Well-Intentioned Extremist. | |
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Due to the Dead | |
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Due to the Dead: In Useless, Applejack and Rainbow Dash, now members of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters terrorist cell, are gunned down by a human soldier as they prepare for a Last Stand. Although their friendships with Fluttershy and Twilight died due to the former's defection and their refusal to accept the latter's decision to surrender to the humans (to the point that they even tried to assassinate her once), Fluttershy and Twilight (along with Spike, Discord, and Braeburn) still give their former friends a proper burial and hold a small private funeral for them to properly honor their old friendship and mourn their loss. | |
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Rule of Three | |
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Rule of Three: Celestia decided to launch an attack on the three cities central to the Abrahamic religions, believing that seeing these sacred holy sites and centers of cultural and historical significance being razed to the ground would demoralize the humans. The first two, Rome and Mecca, were glassed by the Crystal Cannon. The third, Jerusalem, was to be taken in a ground battle (thanks to Discord sabotaging the cannon), only for them to fail at it. The humans not only unveiled their newly created Thalmann Generators and drove the ponies from the city, but also killed Luna, the first major blow to the ponies' morale and the second major victory of the war (the first being Shining Armor's death in New York). | |
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And I Must Scream | |
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And I Must Scream: The "Divine Justice" ending's fate for Celestia - she's turned to stone and sealed in the center of the planet, still fully aware and incapable of dying until the planet does. | |
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Not So Stoic | |
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Not So Stoic: In "Indignation, Part 2", Dr. Thalmann, after spending Part 1 calmly dressing Celestia down with more than a hint of amusement throughout, angrily screams at her in his native German for launching a devastating attack on the city of Berlin, calling her out as a hypocrite for invoking A Nazi by Any Other Name through the whole war by trying to wipe out humanity while keeping a tight grip on her own subjects' lives. Likewise, in the first story, Anthony Doyle is calm and personable through the negotiations but he snaps at Twilight when she refuses to hand Celestia over to the humans' custody, demanding to know why she continues to defend Celestia after all the atrocities she's committed. | |
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Secret Police | |
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In "Divine Justice", Applejack gets hunted down by the families of those she sold out to the Secret Police and is lynched. | |
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Sole Survivor | |
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Rainbow Dash has been consumed by this due to being the Sole Survivor of the massacre that killed the Wonderbolts. Her guilt was further compounded by the fact that she only survived due to retreating out of fear for her own life and abandoning Scootaloo to suffer the same grisly fate. | |
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Parting-Words Regret | |
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Parting-Words Regret: Applejack feels this with regards to Rarity, as Ponyville got bombed shortly after the two of them had an explosive argument and Rarity died as a casualty. | |
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Humanity Is Infectious | |
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Humanity Is Infectious: While there were some bumps even early on, interactions between humans and ponies before the war had the latter especially enthralled by human arts and technology. Celestia hated this, seeing the humans' existence as undermining her rule over the ponies and as a corrupting influence on the culture of Equestria, which she states she took care to keep "pure and protected" over her reign. | |
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Given Name Reveal | |
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Given Name Reveal: Harmony reveals that Celestia was once an ordinary mortal pony named Sunnyvale, while her sister Luna's original name was Mooncloud. | |
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Dramatic Irony | |
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Dramatic Irony: Reading segments of Warfare can be like this due to the Foregone Conclusion and the story's nature as a prequel detailing the last year of the Conversion War before the ponies surrendered to humanity. Halberd optimistically proclaims that as long as the alicorns are around, the ponies can't help but win. Then Luna, Cadence, and Flurry Heart are all killed in the war and the ponies decisively lose the conflict. When the ponies start manufacturing firearms and other kinds of weapons to try to fight the humans on their own playing field, Halberd is confident that this will allow Equestria to slow down the invasion long enough to buy the princesses time to either miraculously turn things around or teleport Equestria off Earth. Humanity's army continues to steamroll over them and neither a miracle nor an escape comes to fruition. Halberd, distraught and angered over Twilight surrendering, declares the ponies are doomed. Instead, the ponies went on to peacefully coexist alongside humanity. Halberd ultimately kills himself due to crossing the Despair Event Horizon over Twilight's decision to surrender and believing his whole family was killed when the humans captured their hometown. However, as the Distant Finale revealed, it actually turns out his family did survive and had to find him dead, leaving behind only his journal. Early in Choice, Celestia claims that the war against humanity will be a short and glorious conflict, while Rainbow Dash says that everypony will be back home by Hearthswarming Eve, not to mention that there's no doubt that the ponies will win. Similarly, Shining Armor promised that the war would be over in under a year, according to the timeline. The text in Choice points out that Cadence's use of the Crystal Cannon, which was done to avenge her husband, would see her, her daughter, and her empire all obliterated by nuclear fire less than a year later. In the third year of the Conversion War, Equestria launched an especially devastating attack on the city of Berlin as a punishment for the German people due to the crimes of the Nazis. Of course, not only were the Equestrians themselves committing genocide, but the way things play out in the country during the final few weeks of the war is highly reminiscent of Nazi Germany's last days (civilians committing suicide en masse, cities getting razed to the ground, the ill-fated attempts at a Last Stand, and Celestia having a Villainous Breakdown in which she calls her generals cowards and fools ala Hitler in Downfall). In the Choice chapter "Abolition," Dusty Pages accuses Twilight of being willing to give the humans all of their cultural treasures, including the Alicorn Amulet. Sadly, Twilight couldn't have done that even if she wanted to - The Amulet, as well as many other historically, magically, and culturally important artifacts were already sacrificed three years earlier in the chapter "Teleportation" to try (unsuccessfully) to get the Elements of Harmony to activate. At Luna's funeral, Celestia announces that the Conversion War will be over soon and that the future will be more wonderful than anyone can imagine. She was, technically, correct, though not in the way she was thinking - the war would end in less than a year, with Equestria defeated, and the path forward (that of coexistence) would produce great rewards for both races. Carrot Top at one point thinks about how she sent a letter to her parents talking about the world-shifting and wonders how they're doing... unaware that they're dead due to that dimensional jump. In "Devastation", when the Apple family home is hit by a bomb, what kills Apple Bloom is a piece of shrapnel embedding itself into her skull; specifically, a coin stamped with Celestia's face that was propelled by the blast. That coin wouldn't have been there if Applejack hadn't turned innocent ponies over to the ESS for the reward money. When Applejack pulls it out of her sister's skull, it's stained red; literally, blood money. | |
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Disappointed in You | |
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Disappointed in You: Agent Sweetie Drops says this to Applejack, Rarity, and Rainbow Dash after the trio refuse to cooperate with the princesses and use the Elements of Harmony to power the Harmony Cannon again. | |
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Aggressive Negotiations | |
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Aggressive Negotiations: Downplayed in the first story - while the talks are largely peaceful and reasonable, Anthony Doyle casually points out that humanity could very easily wipe Equestria right off the map if the ponies don't comply with the UN's terms and conditions for peace. | |
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Harmful to Minors | |
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Harmful to Minors: Fluttershy's three adopted children were War Refugees who lost their birth parents during the war (and God only knows what other horrible things they and other children like them must have gone through). While her youngest is too young to remember much, Flutters states that though her two older human children are now happy and thriving under her and her husband's care, they still get nightmares from time to time. | |
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No-Sell | |
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In "Harmony's Chosen", she attacks Fluttershy (now an alicorn and wielding all six Elements) with dark magic and orders Twilight to do the same. It's a No-Sell. | |
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Easily Thwarted Alien Invasion | |
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Easily Thwarted Alien Invasion: Sure, the barrier made things difficult for humanity at first and cost them a great deal, but once it was destroyed with the aid of several defectors from Celestia's regime, they steamrolled over everything the ponies threw at them and claimed victory. Downplayed in that Earth suffered heavy losses, with several nations being swallowed by the barrier, many major cities being destroyed, and casualties standing at upwards of three billion. | |
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Oh, Crap! | |
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Oh, Crap!: Discord has one when he learns Doctor Whooves has appeared. The Doctor freaks out when Spike mentions seeing Princess Celestia with pitch-black eyes. Having seen this before he realizes Princess Celestia is being manipulated by someone very powerful. | |
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Apocalyptic Log | |
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Apocalyptic Log: Warfare is revealed to be one in the final chapter, where it's presented to Spike by a descendant of Halberd's sister. | |
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Scars Are Forever | |
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Scars Are Forever: As a result of her role as a combat medic during the war, Fluttershy now sports a few battle scars, and Twilight can never bear children now thanks to a bullet wound she received during the conflict. Spike, meanwhile, bears several emotional scars stemming from the harsh reality that not only is he the only dragon left, but he also has no means to carry on his people's legacy after he dies due to knowing next to nothing about dragons overall thanks to his upbringing. | |
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I Choose to Stay | |
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I Choose to Stay: Despite Sugar Belle pleading with her to leave Equestria and see Big Macintosh again, Applejack refuses to leave out of stubbornness. She admits it would look too suspicious if they all leave and she's unwilling to leave her home and her friends behind. Applejack urges Sugar Belle to take Applebloom and escape while she still can. | |
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All for Nothing | |
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All for Nothing: In the "Divine Justice" and "Harmony's Chosen" endings, Harmony says point-blank that there was no need to teleport Equestria to Earth - the sun would have been fine once the next generation of Element Bearers found a way to fix it and let the sun and moon move on their own. | |
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Face–Heel Turn | |
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Face–Heel Turn: The Crystal Empire does one out of desperation to survive when King Sombra is revived. While some of its citizens flee, the majority accept Sombra as their leader when he promises to protect them from the destruction of the sun. The Crystal Empire renames itself the Dark Empire. Gilda also undergoes one after becoming angry at Rainbow Dash for not getting her a spot to enter Haven despite their renewed friendship. After discovering and freeing Grogar from his prison, Gilda agrees to serve him when he offers her a chance to get revenge on Rainbow Dash and a way to survive the upcoming end. Equestria as a whole begins to serve the Triumvirate willingly when they promise a way to save them and become convinced everyone on Haven abandoned them to their doom. | |
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Extreme Doormat | |
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Extreme Doormat: Keeping with conventions of TCB deconstructions, the newfoals are this. Twilight, even when she wholeheartedly supported Celestia's conversion crusade, admits she found the newfoals to be weird with how they were always a bit "too nice" and Halberd Wings admits that he finds it unsettling how the newfoals never say "no" to anything natural-born ponies ask of them, including requests for sex. | |
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I Did What I Had to Do | |
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I Did What I Had to Do: Just like in Truth, Celestia justifies every action she's taken on the grounds that it was all in the name of keeping her nation and subjects safe and protected. Fluttershy, of course, begs to differ. | |
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Loophole Abuse | |
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Loophole Abuse: In Fallen, Celestia promised Fluttershy that she would allow the latter's human boyfriend, Martin, to go back to human lands if she was to concede using her Element to create the barrier. Of course, as Harmony revealed, Celestia was going to use the Elements to wipe out humanity after the barrier was complete, so her promise would be pointless. | |
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Mayfly–December Romance | |
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Mayfly–December Romance: This trope plays a big part in why Spike is so apprehensive about pursuing a relationship with the human Rebecca. This also played a part in why Discord never acted on his own love for Fluttershy, and he tells Spike before he passes on not to make that same mistake. | |
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Convenient Coma | |
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Convenient Coma: Celestia fell into a coma at the war's conclusion; this, coupled with Luna and Cadence being dead, leaves Twilight the only one capable of representing Equestria for peace talks in the aftermath. | |
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Moral Myopia | |
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Moral Myopia: A lot of the Equestrian loyalists cry about innocent ponies, including their loved ones, being killed in the Conversion War while ignoring the countless innocent humans who were also killed or converted into Newfoals. A more specific example revolves around the usage of the Crystal Cannon; from the ponies' point of view, they were completely justified in using it to glass Mecca and Rome and kill millions of innocent humans, but when the humans retaliated and did the same to the Crystal Empire via nuclear strike, that made them irredeemable and pure evil in their eyes. | |
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Everyone Has Standards | |
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Everyone Has Standards: Despite siding with humanity, Fluttershy hates that the Crystal Empire was destroyed, even though she understands that it was a proportionate response to the fate of Mecca and Rome. In the "Divine Justice" ending, after learning about Applejack selling out innocent ponies to the ESS for money, even Fluttershy couldn't sympathize with the way Applejack was attacked and killed by the families and friends of those she sold out and sincerely hopes Applejack is burning in hell. Fluttershy admits in "Fake Laughter" that while she was still scared of dragons, griffins, changelings, and a few other races from their original homeworld, she is nevertheless horrified, heartbroken, and enraged upon realizing that Celestia left them all behind to die when she jumped Equestria to Earth. In the "Divine Justice" ending, the ponies who were still loyal to Celestia react similarly upon making the same realization. Even Rainbow Dash and Applejack, the most fanatically loyal and stubborn, break down in despair. Twilight meanwhile is so enraged and disgusted that she attacks Celestia with lethal force. All these reactions are then magnified after Harmony reveals that Celestia was going to use the Elements to wipe out humanity. In "Harmony's Chosen, Part 2", even Twilight, Rainbow Dash, and Rarity were horrified and angered when they heard that Applejack sold out her fellow townsfolk (all of whom died in the gulags) to the ESS for cash to keep her farm afloat. | |
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Make an Example of Them | |
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In the final weeks of the conflict, a group of Royal Guards led by the rebellious General Valkyrie tried to stage one after they realized that Equestria had no hope of winning the war and Celestia wasn't going to stop. They poisoned her and then moved to take over Canterlot after she died so they could peacefully surrender to the humans' forces, only to walk into a trap where Celestia revealed that she survived their assassination attempt thanks to her alicorn biology. Most of the conspirators were killed in the ensuing scuffle and the survivors were executed for treason, with Celestia carrying out Valkyrie's personally, and all their heads were put on pikes along the palace walls as a message to any other would-be dissenters. | |
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Rainbow Speak | |
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Rainbow Speak: Harmony's speech is in all caps with the font size increased and every sentence being a different color. The Elements of Harmony speak the same way in "Harmony's Chosen". | |
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My Country, Right or Wrong | |
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My Country, Right or Wrong: As revealed in Halberd's journal in the Warfare chapter "I Remember What I Fight For", Scootaloo actually liked the humans, admired their accomplishments, and even befriended several of them before the war. However, her loyalty was to Equestria first and foremost. | |
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"Where Are They Now?" Epilogue | |
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"Where Are They Now?" Epilogue: For the "Divine Justice" ending: Fluttershy married Martin, adopted three children, and lives a happy and peaceful life with them while working as an author. Twilight surrendered, stepped down as princess, and was sentenced to life in prison for her crimes against humanity. Her only visitors are her parents, Spike, and Fluttershy. Spike became mayor of Ponyville and married Sweetie Belle. Together, they are helping Equestria rebuild. Rainbow Dash became a Death Seeker, joined an anti-human terrorist cell, and was killed by law enforcement officers. Rarity became an alcoholic until Spike and Sweetie Belle helped her get sober, and now she makes clothes for refugees on both sides. She and Fluttershy finally made up at Rainbow Dash's funeral. Pinkie Pie had a severe breakdown and was confined to a mental hospital for many years. She was eventually released and returned to her parents' rock farm but hasn't smiled in years, and Fluttershy doesn't believe she'll ever be able to smile again. Applejack's fate is the most tragic: the Apple Clan disowned her and she was later hunted down and lynched by the loved ones of the ponies she sold out to the ESS. Nobody mourned her passing and even Fluttershy hopes she's burning in Hell. For the "Rejection" ending: Rarity died in the "March of Fools" alongside Sweetie Belle. Applejack participated in the "March of Fools" but survived, albeit crippled and in a wheelchair. She joined a political group dedicated to opposing the integration of humanity and ponykind. Twilight took power after Celestia died, and began working on a way to transition Equestria into a democracy while also trying to find a way to reverse the conversion potion. Pinkie vanished and no one knows if she's even still alive, but rumor has it that she's dead and her ghost haunts Ponyville. Rainbow Dash became a serial killer who targeted pro-integration and pro-human politicians until she was gunned down trying to kill Fancy Pants. For the "Operation Freebird" ending: Equestria got divided into three different countries following a devastating civil war in the wake of the Canterlot Raid and the death of all the highest-ranking members of government. General Valkyrie survived long enough to beg the UN to intervene after five years of chaos. Fluttershy and Martin still get married and settle down, but Fluttershy is too traumatized from her capture, interrogation, and the events of the Raid to adopt her canon children. In the "Twilight Falls" ending: Rarity survives and she and Fluttershy reconcile after they're rescued. She still fell into alcoholism for a while but eventually made a full recovery and has been sober for ten years by the time of the twenty-year Time Skip. With Canterlot completely destroyed and the government all but decapitated, Equestria surrendered in short order and was occupied by humanity, and after some time, a representative democracy-based government was established. In the "Harmony's Chosen" ending: Fluttershy is chosen by the Elements of Harmony to be their sole wielder and is named the new ruler of Equestria, helps usher in a constitutional monarchy government for the nation, all the while continuing to help rebuild trust and bring peaceful coexistence between humanity and the ponies. She and Martin are still Happily Married and also have two alicorn children together. Twilight was sentenced to life in prison while expected to help find a way to cure the newfoals. She does succeed in restoring their original personalities but can't find a way to make them human again. She and Fluttershy are also able to make amends, with the latter visiting her on a semi-regular basis. Rarity was sentenced to perform community service, choosing to help human refugees. She met, fell in love with, and married a human man named John, converted to Mormonism, opened a new tailoring business, and also made amends with Fluttershy. Rainbow Dash was dishonorably discharged as a soldier with all her accomplishments stricken from the record, sentenced to five years in prison, and had to do another sixteen years of community service. Stuck on her Glory Days and unable to move on from the war, she became a bitter Jaded Washout loner and The Alcoholic (which has caused her to pack on the pounds). Applejack was sentenced to life in prison and disowned by the surviving Apple family members. Three years into her prison sentence, she killed herself, with no one mourning her death. Pinkie Pie completely lost her mind and now lives in a fantasy world where she's still friends with everyone. Spike became the Prime Minister of Equestria following its political transformation into a constitutional monarchy. | |
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Blood Knight | |
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In the Choice chapters focused on Luna, she considers humans cowards (for using firearms as well as using one of such weapons to kill Shining Armor) and warmongering. For starters, the ponies' magical blasts work much the same way as firearms, except that both their range and destructive power far surpass gunpowder, not to mention that ponies can cast shields to protect themselves (Luna herself had to raise one in order to survive the attack of a "cowardly human"). Second, Equestria's early success in the war was mostly due to them resorting to the tactic of teleporting their armies into large cities, causing mass devastation, and then retreating to the safety of the barrier where no human can survive for long. As for the second part, Luna is clearly a Blood Knight who regards the war more as a game, and she grows weary of it due to how futile human resistance is, nevermind that this is due to the fact that ponies have both magic and the barrier as clear advantages. | |
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Assimilation Plot | |
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Assimilation Plot: As is typical in anti-TCB stories. Here, it failed and the ponies have to deal with the fallout. | |
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Doves Mean Peace | |
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Doves Mean Peace: In "Harmony's Chosen, Part 2", Fluttershy uses her new abilities as the Alicorn of Nature to restore the land that used to be the city of Rome from the damage inflicted on it by the Crystal Cannon. When she's finished, a single white dove flies in and lands on the cross of St. Peter's Basilica, the only structure still intact after the attack. Naturally, several people fall to their knees and start praying, including Fluttershy. | |
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Killed Offscreen | |
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Killed Offscreen: Thundershot is revealed to have been killed in action while Halberd was recovering in the hospital following the first day of the Invasion. Celestia's execution is likewise offscreen. Diamond Tiara. As a result, Silver Spoon is Driven to Suicide, also offscreen (though Twist and other guards find her body). | |
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War Fic | |
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War Fic: For The Conversion Bureau, natch, though it's played around with - initially, the Conversion War was a Great Offscreen War, with the first story taking place just shortly after the ponies' surrender and the conflict hanging a long shadow over the world and characters. The stories Choice and Warfare explore it in more intimate detail. | |
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Sadistic Choice | |
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Sadistic Choice: Celestia was faced with one after she discovered that there was indeed a safe dimension (i.e. Earth's) to use as an escape from the death of Equus' sun but had no means to transport their whole world there. Her options boiled down to either wasting even more precious (and very limited) time trying to find a way to save their entire planet, or sacrificing all other life on their homeworld to at least guarantee the survival of her beloved subjects as opposed to nothing at all. Guess which one she picked. | |
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What If? | |
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What If?: In this universe, Celestia decided to reveal the sun was on the verge of death to the public and worked with the other races to find a way to ensure the survival of not only the ponies but their people as well. | |
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Barred from Every Bar | |
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Barred from Every Bar: After Equestria loses the Conversion War, Rainbow Dash descends into alcoholism from the horrors of the war, the stress of her friendships shattering, and the deaths of nearly all her loved ones. Her drunken antics get her kicked out of nearly every bar in Canterlot, and the final straw comes when Pony Joe kicks her out of his bar for throwing a bottle at him. Sweetie Drops finds her passed out on a park bench, cleans her up, offers her coffee to get rid of her hangover, and recruits her into the Equestrian Freedom Fighters, an anti-human terrorist cell. | |
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Humans Are Divided | |
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Humans Are Divided: Defied. The Princesses thought this would be the case, but they severely underestimated humanity's resistance to being wiped out. Their attempt to capitalize on this division only gave the humans a perfect reason to put all their differences and past grudges aside and unite against a common enemy. | |
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Knight Templar | |
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Knight Templar: Celestia will do anything to protect her ponies, including sacrificing their homeworld to complete annihilation and then attempting to conquer another and remake it into her own image. She's also determined to keep her reasons away from the public simply to preserve the peace, even if that means she'll be hated forever and remembered as a genocidal monster. | |
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Precision F-Strike | |
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Precision F-Strike: Fluttershy, of all ponies, screams "Fuck you!" at Rarity in the "Broken Diamond" chapter. She does it again in "Naive Magic" to Twilight combined with a Big "SHUT UP!". | |
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Putting on the Reich | |
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Putting on the Reich: Despite destroying Berlin for the crimes of the Nazis a century earlier, the Ponies seem eager to put on some of the Reich's greatest hits - concentration camps for non-citizens, a secret police, a cult of personality around the leader, world domination, genocide... | |
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The Last Straw | |
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The Last Straw: Before she defected, Fluttershy suffered through months of the war from the Equestrian side, silently enduring Celestia's propaganda, until it started using the Elements of Harmony to garner more support. Needless to say, Fluttershy really didn't like that Equestria was using her to promote genocide, and thus went to join Lyra's resistance. | |
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Desecrating the Dead | |
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Desecrating the Dead: While egging on Cadence into using the Crystal Cannon, Celestia claims that this is what the humans are doing to Shining Armor's corpse. It was averted in reality - Shining's body was cremated and the ashes were dumped into the Hudson River. Averted when the ponies looted Celestia's Castle after the war for revenge. While they did tear down everything that was of any value and broke into the crypt, they left Luna's body alone. | |
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Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu? | |
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Did You Just Flip Off Cthulhu?: In the "Divine Justice" ending, both Applejack and Celestia demand to know why Harmony never intervened in anything, the latter moreso. | |
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Tragic Bigot | |
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Tragic Bigot: Celestia's mistrust of the other races first stemmed from her witnessing her and Luna's parents get killed by griffon raiders as a filly and it only solidified further with the numerous attacks and conflicts they launched against Equestria over the millennia of her rule. Similarly, her hatred of the humans was motivated in large part by how a group of human hunters killed her apprentice and surrogate daughter Sunset Shimmer, with their own history of conflict and cruelty only adding more fuel to the fire. Of course, it's made clear multiple times within the narrative that this doesn't justify her bigotry or excuse her leaving the other races of Equus behind to die horribly just to ensure her subjects' continued survival and launching an extermination campaign on the humans. | |
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Used to Be a Sweet Kid | |
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Applejack and Rainbow Dash. Once they were the Elements of Honesty and Loyalty, but now they're terrorists whose actions have directly resulted in the deaths of many innocents in the wake of the war. They've fallen so far that they had no reservations about trying to assassinate Twilight for surrendering to humanity. They get what's coming to them in Useless. Rainbow Dash herself is guilty of cowardice, as she had retreated from the battlefield and abandoned Scootaloo during the Invasion, resulting in her being the only survivor of the massacre that killed the Wonderbolts. Applejack meanwhile became a liar, as she began selling innocent ponies out to the ESS to get a little extra cash to keep herself and Applebloom afloat. | |
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Undignified Death | |
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Undignified Death: In Useless, during the invasion of the EFF's home base, Rainbow Dash and Applejack are gunned down right as they were preparing to do a Last Stand. | |
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Big Applesauce | |
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Big Applesauce: Twilight mentions that one of the major engagements during the war was the Battle of New York in which Shining Armor was killed. It's noted by the author that this was the first out-and-out victory of humanity over the ponies, rather than just bloody stalemates or Pyrrhic victories. | |
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Happily Married | |
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Fluttershy is chosen by the Elements of Harmony to be their sole wielder and is named the new ruler of Equestria, helps usher in a constitutional monarchy government for the nation, all the while continuing to help rebuild trust and bring peaceful coexistence between humanity and the ponies. She and Martin are still Happily Married and also have two alicorn children together. | |
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The Spartan Way | |
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The Spartan Way: Before the three pony tribes came together to form Equestria, the pegasi engaged in this on a cultural level, up to and including killing weak and disabled foals that were deemed useless to their society. | |
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Jump Scare | |
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Discord passes on in the same manner by faking his last breath and then making one last joke. He just couldn't resist getting one last Jump Scare on Spike for his own amusement. | |
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Humans Are Warriors | |
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Humans Are Warriors: The humans put up a fierce enough resistance in the first four years of the war to make it a stalemate in terms of general combat despite losing almost a third of their population and civilization while attempts to demoralize them by destroying key cultural and religious locations only made them fight harder, and once they found a way to neutralize the ponies' magical advantage, the war quickly became one-sided in humanity's favor. Specifically, it took about one year after the Thalmann Generators were deployed for humanity to decisively win the war. Halberd's journals detail how the war was going after the Thalmaan Generators were brought out, and it's a constant stream of the Equestrian forces being pushed out of the territories they'd gained and the humans reclaiming lands previously lost. The Invasion of Equestria solidified this like nothing else: the human fleet was absolutely massive (the timeline specified that there were over 40 million troops in the first wave) and wiped out virtually all resistance in their way within the first few hours. Soldiers didn't even make landfall until the second day. Applejack laments in Choice that the ponies might have done well in a fight where it was just small skirmishes, but they lack the numbers and power for a globe-spanning war like the humans are. | |
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I Have No Son! | |
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I Have No Son!: Limestone was disowned by her family for joining the EFF, but she doesn't care, as long as she gets to avenge Pinkie's death. The families of the EFF members refuse to take their bodies back after their executions. | |
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CharacterDeath | |
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Character Death: In "Operation Freebird," Celestia personally kills Spike, rendering dragonkind extinct. Since she had previously killed Twilight by a missed attack, and she dies later in the same chapter, the Alicorns also go extinct. | |
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Dies Differently in Adaptation | |
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Dies Differently in Adaptation: In canon, Shining Armor was shot in the head by a sniper rifle. In "Regeneration Part 6", Shining was critically injured in Osaka by an aerial bombardment and later dies during surgery. In the main universe, Pinkie Pie was one of the many ponies who was killed when Ponyville was bombed. However in "Regeneration, Part 8", she took her own life by hanging herself after witnessing the millions of human lives killed by the Harmony Cannon. Spike was killed by the Daleks when he tried to rescue Twilight from the Black Guardian. Bon-Bon/Sweetie Drops, according to the official timeline, killed herself to prevent the humans from capturing her. In part 14 of Regeneration she was shot by a Cyberpony. Princess Cadance was killed by a nuke along with the rest of the Crystal Empire. Here she sacrifices herself by fighting some of the Daleks to give Fluttershy and Discord time to escape. | |
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A Nazi by Any Other Name | |
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In "Indignation, Part 2", Dr. Thalmann, after spending Part 1 calmly dressing Celestia down with more than a hint of amusement throughout, angrily screams at her in his native German for launching a devastating attack on the city of Berlin, calling her out as a hypocrite for invoking A Nazi by Any Other Name through the whole war by trying to wipe out humanity while keeping a tight grip on her own subjects' lives. | |
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Neck Snap | |
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Pinkie Pie gets subjected to a Neck Snap. | |
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Grew a Spine | |
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Grew a Spine: Fluttershy grows an adamantium spine over the five years the war went on, going from a timid pegasus mare frightened of her own shadow to a war heroine, rebel leader, and combat medic willing to stand against her home, her species, and even her closest friends in defense of humanity. | |
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Irony | |
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Irony: In "Harmony's Chosen", the Elements of Harmony take the form of Discord, a being of chaos. They even lampshade it. | |
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Boom, Headshot! | |
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Boom, Headshot!: How Shining Armor died: .50 caliber sniper rifle round through his head. | |
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Hope Spot | |
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Hope Spot: The non-ponies living in Equestria who stood against Celestia's regime and failed then tried to flee the nation on stolen ships, only for said ships to be attacked and sunk with them still on board by the Equestrian Navy. Halberd has this when he sees how proficient the soldiers that he's working with are in the use of human weapons. Coupled with reverse-engineered human tank designs and human warship designs, Equestria can no doubt hold off the inevitable human invasion until the ponies can regain the upper hand. This lasts until approximately two seconds after the fog lifts around the site of the invasion and the ponies are confronted with an armada of warships that outnumbers theirs a hundred to one. Things went downhill after that. In the chapter "Annihilation" of Choice, Flurry Heart finally opens up to Cadence about how she's feeling guilty that she retreated into herself when her father and aunt died, while Cadence lets loose all her feelings that she's been forced to bottle up for a long time. The two reconcile with one another, and Flurry even asks her mother if she thinks the war was a mistake... right as Cadence spots the nuclear missile approaching the empire. The next scene is of a border guard watching the Empire vanish in an atomic explosion. Rainbow Dash gets one when she joins the EFF, ready to keep fighting the good fight. Unfortunately, it's a Foregone Conclusion thanks to Useless. | |
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Aesop Amnesia | |
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Aesop Amnesia: In-universe, UN Representative Anthony Doyle points out that there aren't many records of ponykind's history from before the First Hearthswarming Eve, with Twilight arguing that there is no point in remembering such a bad part of their history. Mr. Doyle then fittingly delivers the quote, "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it," in response. In Rest, Discord tells Spike that his reason for living should be to avert this by making sure that humanity and ponykind will always remember history and never repeat the same mistakes again. | |
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Fallen Hero | |
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Fallen Hero: Fallen in general points out how each of the former Elements turned their backs on the traits that made them worthy, except for Fluttershy. Rainbow Dash and Applejack, much like their original counterparts, went this way in all the endings. In the "Divine Justice" ending, while the remaining Elements repented and made efforts at trying to atone for their past actions, Rainbow Dash continued the fight until she met a similar fate that she had in Useless, while Applejack was ostracized by the community for ratting ponies out to the ESS, got disowned by the rest of the Apple Family, and ultimately was attacked and killed in retribution by the families and friends of the ponies she sold out. In the "Rejection" ending, Rainbow Dash died in "The March of Fools" while Applejack survived, albeit with crippling injuries, and became a member of a fringe political group opposed to the integration of humans in Equestrian society. | |
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Big Bad Wannabe | |
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Big Bad Wannabe: Despite the zealotry and confident determination of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters, even Celestia had to admit in Choice that they were so understaffed and outgunned that they were at most a nuisance to the world with no hope of winning their "war". | |
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Shout-Out | |
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Shout-Out: In "Regeneration, Part 3", Discord dresses up as Link before engaging Twilight, Cadence, and Shining Armor in battle. "Regeneration, Part 8" has the Doctor mention Equestria in the original timeline faced an alien race called "The Prethoryn Scourge". | |
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Rage Breaking Point | |
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Rage Breaking Point: Halberd already hated humanity for what they did to the Crystal Empire, but after he lost both his wings and Thundershot, well... | |
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Freudian Excuse | |
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Freudian Excuse: Celestia's disdain for non-ponies stems from first watching her parents get killed by Griffin raiders when she was young, and then the personal losses and hardships she suffered while protecting Equestria from attacks by the other races all throughout her reign. However, by the time we get to know this, Celestia doesn't receive sympathy from either Fluttershy or Harmony considering that she has committed atrocities greater than any griffin, dragon, diamond dog, changeling, human, or any other race ever has. | |
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Playing Possum | |
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Celestia was poisoned during General Valkyrie's coup attempt and survived, but played possum to trick the rebellious general and her co-conspirators into revealing themselves, after which they were all killed. | |
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Child Soldiers | |
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Child Soldiers: Whereas the main universe managed to avoid this, "Rejection" has Celestia willingly engage in this once the Elements fail. | |
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Taking You with Me | |
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Taking You with Me: Combined with Better to Die than Be Killed, Halberd Wings briefly mentions in Warfare that some humans that got doused with ponification potion would blow themselves up to not just avoid getting forcibly transformed into Newfoals but also kill any pony soldiers in the vicinity as well. | |
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The Chains of Commanding | |
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The Chains of Commanding: After Celestia was rendered comatose, leaving Twilight in charge of the remaining ponies, she immediately felt a crushing weight on her, driving her to realize she had to surrender for the sake of the surviving ponies. Twilight's post-war responsibilities are pretty heavy too. As she puts it to Fluttershy in Reunited: | |
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Trust Password | |
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Trust Password: Fluttershy gives Spike instructions on how to connect with the resistance. He is told to go to Sassy Saddles' shop and ask for "anything that's a mix of blue and green, but not purple." When she says, "Is this for a friend or a lover?", he should answer, "Actually, for my cousin in Van Hoofer. She's getting married soon." | |
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Glory Days | |
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Rainbow Dash was dishonorably discharged as a soldier with all her accomplishments stricken from the record, sentenced to five years in prison, and had to do another sixteen years of community service. Stuck on her Glory Days and unable to move on from the war, she became a bitter Jaded Washout loner and The Alcoholic (which has caused her to pack on the pounds). | |
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We ARE Struggling Together | |
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We ARE Struggling Together: "Devastation" makes it clear that if civilization is three missed meals away from anarchy, by the time Ponyville gets bombed, Equestria's missed two of them by the final weeks of the war. The chapter starts with two ponies fighting over a tattered blanket with more holes than swiss cheese, one of whom had already gotten a blanket from the line and was trying to cheat a second, while the other fakes having a baby in need. Shortly thereafter, the stress of the situation, coupled with Applejack's actions of selling out ponies to the ESS for money, causes a fight to break out between Applejack and Rarity. | |
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Outside-Context Problem | |
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Outside-Context Problem: Humanity was this to the ponies in general. In Useless, Rainbow Dash admits that she can't understand why ponykind could not overcome the human race when she and her friends already fought and defeated beings who were godlike in comparison prior to them. Halberd Wings expresses a similar sentiment after the humans were able to successfully kill Luna. Choice expands on that - Shining Armor was killed in a surprise sniper attack, at range, and with no warning. The death of Luna was not just the death of a royal family member, but the death of a goddess and proof that humanity was far more dangerous than the ponies had previously considered. Further, Luna was fighting against enemies she knew were coming, and had defenses up against the humans... and she still lost. Celestia also expresses this in "Obsession", a chapter of Choice. She outright calls her ponies the pinnacle of harmony and righteousness, all the while being unable to comprehend why Equestria was losing. The Thalmann Generators were one for Equestria, since they canceled out the ponies' magic. As magic made up most of their defensive and offensive abilities, this was a serious blow to the ponies... one that they never recovered from. | |
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Ascended Fridge Horror | |
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Ascended Fridge Horror: One plot hole/piece of fridge horror ignored in the original TCB story (and most of its spin-offs) is the question of what happens to Equus without the princesses around to move the sun and moon. This story does not mince words over just how horrifying the results would be. | |
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Roaring Rampage of Revenge | |
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Roaring Rampage of Revenge: Happens both ways in "Operation Freebird": first, Celestia, blinded by fury and hate, accidentally vaporizes Twilight while trying to kill Fluttershy, then Spike attacks Celestia to avenge Twilight's death and is killed after a vicious offscreen battle. Twilight goes on one in the "Twilight Falls" ending. | |
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War Memorial | |
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War Memorial: One was erected in the ruins of Ponyville. Twilight visits it once a year to remember all those who died when the town was destroyed including Rarity, Pinkie Pie, the Crusaders, the Cakes, and many others. After the Conversion War, mankind starts putting these up to remember their losses in territories swallowed by the Barrier. Twilight also erects memorials for those who died in the Crystal Empire's nuking and the Siege of Canterlot. | |
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Cassandra Truth | |
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Cassandra Truth: Twilight at first doesn't believe Anthony Doyle's claim that the ponification potion rendered all the newfoals infertile... until she recalls that there have been absolutely no reports of the newfoals giving birth to any children in the past fifteen years since the bureaus were opened. In "Damnation, Part 2", Lieutenant Autumn Falls was the first to notice the ponies' magic was acting up during the Battle of Jerusalem, which, unbeknownst to them, was thanks to the humans deploying the Thalmann generators. But Luna ignored her warnings since she believed that only ponies could nullify their own magic, which in turn led to the second major defeat Equestria suffered in the war (the first being Shining Armor's death) and Luna herself getting killed after her magic was nullified too. | |
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An Arm and a Leg | |
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An Arm and a Leg: Halberd loses his wings in the kick-off of humanity's invasion of Equestria. | |
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Outdated Hero vs. Improved Society | |
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Outdated Hero vs. Improved Society: Rainbow Dash and Applejack were once two of the six heroines that saved Equestria many times, beloved by their friends and everypony else. But due to a combination of Detrimental Determination and misguided Undying Loyalty, they stubbornly continue fighting in the name of Celestia and her ideals even after Equestria loses the Conversion War and their beloved princess is revealed to have been a tyrant hellbent on wiping out the human race, to say nothing of how Celestia also left their original homeworld and everyone living outside Equestria's borders behind to die in the dimensional jump. While the rest of the ponies are willing to make peace with and live alongside the humans post-war, Rainbow Dash and Applejack cannot let go of their hatred and end up joining a terrorist group to restore the "old Equestria" that is by now long gone. | |
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Taken for Granite | |
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Taken for Granite: Gilda finds Grogar trapped in a stone statue. She is able to free him after finding his bewitching bell. | |
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"Eureka!" Moment | |
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"Eureka!" Moment: A tragic one for Fluttershy in "Naive Magic". While thinking about the differences between how humans and ponies developed and whether Celestia's rule held them back, Fluttershy figures that Celestia and Luna's ability to control the sun and moon was what made them "qualified" to rule Equestria in the eyes of the ponies... and then she realizes to her horror that without the princesses, there's no one around to move the sun and moon anymore, meaning that everyone else they left back in their original home dimension is dead. She helps Twilight (and later, Spike) come to realize this as well. Unfortunately, Celestia employs some Laser-Guided Amnesia on the former. | |
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Decisive Battle | |
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Decisive Battle: The Battle of Jerusalem was one for humanity during the Conversion War. In one fell swoop, humanity turned back an invasion force led by one of the Physical God leaders of the enemy, slew said leader, proved that they could nullify the magical defenses of Equestria, and changed the tide of the war. It put the ponies on the back foot for the first time in the conflict, surrendering the initiative to the humans - an advantage they would never get back. | |
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Holier Than Thou | |
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Holier Than Thou: Anthony Doyle describes Celestia as such, summing up her ultimatum speech to humanity as an arrogant screed and that she had no right to determine another species' own right to exist. This was also the general attitude of the ponies before and during the war and how they justified their conversion crusade. "Obsession" showed that even as Equestria was continuously losing one battle after the next and was going to lose the war overall, Celestia still refused to believe that anything she was doing was wrong and blamed every bad thing that happened to her solely on the humans being so "evil". | |
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In Spite of a Nail | |
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In Spite of a Nail: This story sees Fluttershy (after a moment of realization) ask Twilight the same question Doyle asked her in Negotiations: "Who's been controlling the sun and moon in our world since [Equestria has] been [on Earth]?" In two of the endings, Rainbow Dash still joins an anti-human terrorist group and gets killed by law enforcement agents. | |
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Sterility Plague | |
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Sterility Plague: All of the newfoals are infertile. Celestia states that she never intended for this and hoped to rectify it after all of mankind was converted, but now Twilight has taken it upon herself to cure humanity of ponification instead. All the remaining Crystal Ponies that survived the nuclear attack on the Crystal Empire were rendered sterile due to radiation poisoning. | |
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Hoist by His Own Petard | |
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Applejack gets hung by her own lasso. | |
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What the Hell, Hero? | |
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What the Hell, Hero?: "Regeneration, Part 3" has Discord call out Twilight, Cadence, and Shining Armor for blindly following Princess Celestia's every order without question, telling them they are all disgraces to the elements they are supposed to represent. Shining Armor throws this back at him calling Discord a monster for causing chaos and hurting innocent ponies for his own amusement and reminding him of how he betrayed everyone to work with Lord Tirek. Discord acknowledges this but admits the difference between them is that he admits that he was wrong. Rainbow Dash chews out Twilight after Pinkie's funeral. She calls her out on wanting to use the Harmony Cannon again and her refusal to surrender despite the fact they're losing. Rainbow ends her friendship with Twilight after seeing how much she has changed. Flurry Heart calls out her mother for doing nothing to stop the war in a letter she left behind. | |
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Salt the Earth | |
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Salt the Earth: Thanks to the immense power of the Crystal Cannon, anything it fired upon was reduced to a barren, scorched wasteland a la "glassing" from the Halo franchise, as was the fate of Mecca and Rome. After the barrier was shattered and the Crystal Empire was annihilated, Celestia ordered all her forces to withdraw back to Equestria proper, but not before burning and destroying the lands they previously conquered so the humans could not use them. The nuclear strike on the Crystal Empire left the surrounding landscape irradiated for hundreds of years. | |
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Adaptational Wimp | |
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Adaptational Wimp: While it varies Depending on the Writer, the PER is often depicted in other TCB stories as being enough of a thorn in the human resistance efforts' side to give them a decent amount of grief. Here, the PER was stamped out less than a year after its emergence. | |
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Hypocrite | |
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Hypocrite: When Halberd is horrified after seeing ancient pegasi throw disabled foals to their deaths, Garen reminds him that he had no problem killing human children and babies during the Conversion War. | |
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Un-person | |
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Unperson: Celestia's Secret Police did this to any pony who disapproved of the war and forcible conversion of the humans. Captain Parabola is one such unlucky victim. | |
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The Nothing After Death | |
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The Nothing After Death: Limestone privately admits to Lightning Dust that she's afraid of this being the truth, since the deaths of the Princesses shattered her belief that they were goddesses. | |
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I Have Many Names | |
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I Have Many Names: Harmony claims to be all the gods, just going by different names; it lists Fausticorn and Allah, just for a very abbreviated list. | |
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Lower-Deck Episode | |
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Lower-Deck Episode: Warfare is this for the rest of the series, since it doesn't focus on one of the main characters of the show, but instead on an Original Character in the form of a freshly recruited Equestrian soldier who takes to the field during the last year of the war. Specifically, he joins the war just in time for mankind to turn the tide and put Equestria on the back foot until it surrenders. Certain chapters of Choice center around Original Characters instead of the main cast. | |
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Last Request | |
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Last Request: Before her execution, Limestone Pie's last request is to let Twilight know that she's going to see Pinkie in the afterlife. | |
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Fallen-on-Hard-Times Job | |
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Fallen-on-Hard-Times Job: After failing to become a Wonderbolt and seeing her own stunt team go broke, Lightning Dust had to take on a lot of those just to keep from being homeless before she joined the Equestrian military at the start of the Conversion War. | |
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Afterlife Antechamber | |
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Afterlife Antechamber: Halberd is in one of these, accompanied by the spirit guide Garen, whose duty is to help him cleanse his soul of the hatred and anger that's consumed it. | |
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Achilles' Heel | |
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The Thalmann Generators were one for Equestria, since they canceled out the ponies' magic. As magic made up most of their defensive and offensive abilities, this was a serious blow to the ponies... one that they never recovered from. | |
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Everyone Calls Him "Barkeep" | |
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Everyone Calls Him "Barkeep": Doctor Whooves in this story is simply called the Doctor. When asked, he says it's a name he likes going by. | |
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Memorial for the Antagonist | |
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Memorial for the Antagonist: In Useless, Applejack and Rainbow Dash are gunned down while preparing to make their Last Stand as the EFF's home base is being attacked. Although they turned their backs on Twilight after she surrendered the war and even tried to assassinate her, she still gives them a proper burial and a marked grave on the lands that used to be their home as a token of their old friendship. | |
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Eternal Recurrence | |
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Eternal Recurrence: Implied as much by Harmony in the "Divine Justice" ending. | |
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Screw This, I'm Outta Here | |
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Screw This, I'm Outta Here: After learning the Doctor has arrived on Earth, Discord gets the hell out of dodge intent on taking Fluttershy as far away from Equestria as possible. Both Spike and Flurry Heart escape from Equestria following the aftermath of the Harmony Cannon's firing. | |
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You Can't Go Home Again | |
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You Can't Go Home Again: Fluttershy still considers Equestria to be her home, but knows she can never return at this point because of everything that had happened under Celestia's rule. Also the Equestrians' original home planet counts, as, without Celestia and Luna, the Sun and Moon stopped moving, either boiling or freezing the planet (depending on which side it was on). This is compounded by the fact that the Equestrian sun was also slowly dying, meaning that even if they stayed, everyone would be dead anyway. Furthermore, anyone who considered Ponyville their home wouldn't be able to return as the town was destroyed in the war and never rebuilt. | |
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Sugar Apocalypse | |
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Sugar Apocalypse: The Bombing of Ponyville. Hell, the whole Invasion of Equestria could count. The Crystal Empire was destroyed by a nuclear bomb as revenge for the Crystal Cannon being used to glass Mecca and Rome. Goes further in that this event ultimately led to the extinction of the crystal pony race, as the few survivors were rendered sterile from the radiation poisoning. | |
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A God Am I | |
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A God Am I: Zig-zagged for Celestia, who never outright states it but basically did play God with humanity when she decided that the only way the humans could possibly coexist with her subjects would be to "save them from themselves" by turning them into "peaceful and kind" ponies against their will. Lampshaded by Spike in Future. | |
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Screw Your Ultimatum! | |
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Screw Your Ultimatum!: When Celestia told humanity to either convert into ponies or be wiped out by the barrier, they collectively declared war against Equestria in response. Before the Invasion of Equestria commenced, the humans demanded the ponies' unconditional surrender, warning them that if they refused to comply, then mankind would go in guns blazing and lay waste to their home until the ponies either gave up or were all wiped out. Celestia chose to stand her ground and her loyal subjects followed suit, which, while commendable, didn't work out well for them, ending with the whole country being completely devastated and nearly fifty percent of the population being killed and Celestia herself being rendered comatose, with Twilight ultimately surrendering to ensure everyone's long-term survival. | |
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Reasonable Authority Figure | |
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Reasonable Authority Figure: Twilight and Mr. Doyle are able to negotiate the terms of ponykind's surrender and overall future status on Earth relatively peacefully... owed largely to the fact that Equestria and what's left of the ponies will be wiped off the face of the Earth if Twilight doesn't comply with the UN's bigger demands. | |
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Despair Event Horizon | |
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Despair Event Horizon: Twilight undergoes this in "Twilight Falls", crossed with Go Mad from the Revelation, to the point she slaughters Celestia and everyone loyal to her in an insane but strategic rampage. | |
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Monumental Damage | |
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Monumental Damage: It's mentioned that a good deal of humanity's historical structures and important cities (with Mecca and Rome getting completely glassed by the Crystal Cannon) were lost in the conflict. On the ponies' side, the Crystal Empire was annihilated in a nuclear strike and Ponyville was devastated by an aerial bombardment when the country was invaded. Twilight's castle was completely obliterated. Choice shows the aftermath of Rome's destruction via the Crystal Cannon. The only thing left intact out of countless ancient structures was a single cross from St. Peter's Basilica, flung several hundred miles away. | |
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Beyond Redemption | |
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Beyond Redemption: In the "Divine Justice" and "Harmony's Chosen" endings, Harmony never attempts to reform Celestia or try to make her realize the error of her ways due to the fact that her actions are that despicable. In the former, they punish Celestia by turning her to stone and sealing her in the center of the Earth, still fully aware and unable to die until the Earth itself does. In the latter, Harmony, working through the now-ascended Fluttershy, strips Celestia of her powers and immortality, causing Celestia to undergo No Immortal Inertia and die shortly after. | |
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Didn't See That Coming | |
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Didn't See That Coming: The ponies initially believed that the war with humanity would be a short and easy one due to mankind's history of intraspecies conflict and divisions over past grudges and petty grievances against each other. Needless to say, they were completely taken by surprise and grossly unprepared for when the humans unanimously put aside their differences to defeat the one enemy that was now a bigger threat to them than themselves: the ponies of Equestria. The Equestrian Royals never imagined that the humans and the Equestrian defectors could successfully create a weapon that could render their magical advantages moot. | |
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Humans Are Special | |
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As mentioned above in Humans Are Special, Discord gives a Patrick Stewart Speech at one point. Jean-Luc rubbing off you, eh, Q? | |
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Your Head A-Splode | |
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Rainbow Dash is again subjected to Your Head A-Splode, this time by Twilight and her magic. | |
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Sex for Solace | |
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Sex for Solace: Rarity, after she lost her husband in the war and her child was stillborn, turned to Spike for comfort. It was his first time, and things were awkward between them after that, with Spike's romantic feelings for her fading away as a result. | |
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Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique | |
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Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique: Hot Stepper, one of the two surviving EFF members who tried to steal the Scroll of Ascension in the Choice chapter "Abolition" is subjected to a very angry group of human soldiers who begin asking where his allies are by strapping his testicles to a car battery. | |
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Know When to Fold 'Em | |
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In the final days of the war, a growing number of Equestrian soldiers and civilians alike came to realize Equestria was doomed to lose, with their surrendering to humanity's armies being seen by Celestia as the worst betrayal they could commit against her. | |
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No Immortal Inertia | |
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No Immortal Inertia: What happens to Celestia in the "Harmony's Chosen" ending after she has her alicorn powers stripped from her. | |
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Cruel Mercy | |
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Cruel Mercy: In the "Divine Justice" Ending, Harmony gives Fluttershy the choice of how to punish her former friends. Fluttershy inwardly admits that it would be easy to give them all sorts of Ironic Hell punishments, like making Rarity ugly or taking away Rainbow Dash's wings, but ultimately, she decides to let them be, stating that the knowledge of what they did to the other races and the resulting guilt is punishment enough. | |
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The Power of Blood | |
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The Power of Blood: It turns out that Celestia's blood was a key component in perfecting the ponification serum, while Discord's was essential in creating the cure. | |
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Last of His Kind | |
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Last of His Kind: Discord reveals he is the last living draconequus as the rest of his kind was wiped out by the Daleks. Every non-pony who escaped from Equestria, unlike in the main story, becomes this by "Regeneration Part 8". | |
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Call-Forward | |
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Call-Forward: The Doctor mentions both Sunny Starscout and Hitch Trailblazer when he rescues Discord. | |
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May It Never Happen Again | |
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May It Never Happen Again: In an effort to convert humanity into "peaceful and harmonious" ponies, Princess Celestia started the Conversion War, which lasted five years and led to untold amounts of death and destruction on both sides. She was able to do this because of her godlike power and authority as an alicorn. After the war, her student and successor, Princess Twilight, destroys the Scroll of Ascension to prevent any more alicorns from ever being created, deciding No Man Should Have This Power. | |
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I Regret Nothing | |
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I Regret Nothing: Zigzagged with Celestia - while she genuinely regrets that so much was lost in the process, she ultimately feels no remorse for doing everything she felt was necessary to ensure the continued survival and preservation of her nation, subjects, and their way of life. Applejack in the Choice chapter "Devastation" makes it clear to Rarity that she holds no remorse for selling out her fellow ponies to the ESS. | |
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Homeworld Evacuation | |
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Homeworld Evacuation: In this scenario, this happens on a much bigger scale in the form of Celestia working with the other races to guarantee their survival by making sure that a sizable number of their own people can be sent along with a number of ponies to Earth. They create the nation of Haven, with 100,000 members of each race making up the residents on a patch of viable land that gets jumped over to Earth. | |
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Deconstruction Fic | |
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Deconstruction Fic: Like The Conversion Bureau: Not Alone and The Conversion Bureau: The Other Side of the Spectrum before it, Negotiations basically takes a chainsaw to many of the usual TCB tropes. For one thing, a mostly medieval/slightly industrialized nation (whose soldiers wield swords, spears and arrows) wouldn't do well in warfare against 21st century tactics and weaponry, humanity does not take the ponies' misanthropy and Assimilation Plot lightly, and it gives a far more feasible explanation as to why Equestria would even go to Earth in the first place. | |
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The Mole | |
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In "Abolition", the EFF engages in a high-risk high-reward scheme to steal a scroll containing the spell that allows a pony to ascend into Alicornhood. Their ultimate goal is to turn one of their own into an Alicorn, perhaps more, and then use that power to either rescue Celestia or replace her with somepony who will devoutly follow her ideals and bring mankind to its knees. It ends in a complete failure - of the team that stole it, only two of the five survived, the scroll is destroyed by Twilight, and the one who revealed the scroll to them is arrested and thrown in jail. | |
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Laser-Guided Amnesia | |
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Twilight, after Fluttershy makes her think about it, also has one. Unfortunately, Celestia inflicts Laser-Guided Amnesia on her to keep her on the side of Equestria. She goes through it again in the "Divine Justice", "Rejection", and "Twilight Falls" endings. | |
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Point of Divergence | |
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Point of Divergence: In "Regeneration Part 2", The Resistance is never formed as Princess Celestia was spying on Lyra and had any pony who sympathized with her and the humans immediately imprisoned with Lyra being forced on the run. Disccussed: In "Part 13", what winds up being the thing to finally make Twilight realize the war was a mistake and everything she believed in was wrong is the Doctor revealing to Twilight that the actions of herself and Celestia undid a more prosperous future. | |
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O.O.C. Is Serious Business | |
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O.O.C. Is Serious Business: When Princess Celestia tells Discord of the Doctor appearing in Equestria he stops his silly antics and yells at her, demanding to know what she has done to invoke his presence. | |
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No Man Should Have This Power | |
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No Man Should Have This Power: Three years after the war, Twilight came to this conclusion regarding the Alicorns and their influence over the pony race and thus, destroyed every record of the spell that enabled her ascension so another Celestia would never come to be. | |
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Tactical Withdrawal | |
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Tactical Withdrawal: In the Warfare chapter "I Rejoin the Fight", Halberd explains that with the barrier brought down and the threat of nuclear attack very real, Celestia immediately ordered all her forces to fall back to Equestria and prepare for a large-scale human counterattack. From there, everypony went about converting the entire nation into one massive (not so) impenetrable fortress while the remaining princesses tried (in vain) to find a way to transport Equestria to another world to escape the humans' retribution. During the battle of Jerusalem, Luna ordered her troops to do this once their magical defenses started to fail and they started dropping like flies. She stayed behind to hold the humans off to no avail, as once they turned the Thalmann generators on her, her fate was sealed. | |
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Freudian Slip | |
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Freudian Slip: In the Choice chapter "Decisions", Celestia lets slip that she's partially motivated by revenge from losing Sunset Shimmer to a group of human hunters. | |
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No Ending | |
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No Ending: The scenario ends on an open note, with the united forces of humanity and the nation of Haven gearing up for war against the Big Bad Ensemble of Tirek, Grogar, and Sombra and their dark vengeful army of those that were left behind. How it goes and who wins is all left up in the air. | |
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April Fools' Day | |
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April Fools' Day: Both "Excommunicated" and "Fated Retribution" were released as non-canon crossovers. | |
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Shrinking Violet | |
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It's shown that, along with Fluttershy, Rarity and Pinkie Pie also had reservations against the war on humanity. Out of the three of them, Fluttershy was the only one brave enough to act on it. | |
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The Kingslayer | |
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The Kingslayer: The EFF initiates Operation Queen's Fall, a plot to assassinate Princess Twilight Sparkle. When the mission fails, they are captured and executed. | |
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Crossover | |
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Crossover: "Excommunicated" is one to XCom while "Fated Retribution" is this to Tekken. | |
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Deconstructed Character Archetype | |
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Deconstructed Character Archetype: Celestia's depiction is a deconstruction of the Adaptational Villainy portrayals of her that are the norm for Anti-TCB fics. Truth goes out of its way to explore what could cause someone as benevolent as canon Celestia to commit such actions. It's revealed that a combination of desperation to save Equestria from certain doom, a tragedy causing her to assume the worst of humanity, and her own belief in her absolute moral righteousness prevented her from questioning her actions until it was too late. Pinkie Pie and Rarity deconstruct the Token Good Teammate. While they didn't approve of the war or the idea of forcibly turning the entire human race into Newfoals, and weren't actively cruel or bloodthirsty, they also didn't ever speak out against it, were too afraid to defect knowing they would be marked as traitors and lose their family and friends, and continued to passively support Equestria's genocidal crusade until they died in the bombing of Ponyville. Harmony calls them out for this in the "Divine Justice" ending of Fallen. | |
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0% Approval Rating | |
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0% Approval Rating: Celestia is universally despised by humanity while the vast majority of ponykind renounced her as their princess and goddess by the time of Reunited, with only a small number of die-hard loyalists remaining by that point. In fact, when she finally woke up from her coma, angry riots and protests broke out all over the world when it was announced that she was going to be put on trial first instead of just immediately executed. After finding out that Daring Do was a member of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters, the remaining ponies collectively burned her books. During the war, Lyra Heartstrings was the most hated mare in all of Equestria due to her being the most prominent pony to defect to aid humanity. Some even blamed her for causing Fluttershy's defection, accusing her of poisoning Fluttershy's mind against Celestia. By the end of the war, she was ultimately vindicated and accepted again. The Equestrian Secret Services were a brutal Secret Police force assembled early on in the war to weed out dissent within the populace. Much of the civilian population feared and dreaded them, to the point that Rarity even calls out Applejack for supporting and reporting other ponies to them for extra cash. Following Equestria's surrender, the surviving members then established the Equestrian Freedom Fighters to keep the fight going, and are similarly hated by the rest of the populace for being terrorists. | |
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Early-Bird Cameo | |
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Early-Bird Cameo: According to the timeline posted by Rated, General Valkyrie (at the time a major) was present at First Contact between the humans and ponies. She later tried to launch a (failed) coup attempt to stop Celestia's warmongering. | |
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The Lost Lenore | |
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The Lost Lenore: Thundershot becomes this for Halberd after being killed. Fluttershy is this for Discord. | |
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Being Evil Sucks | |
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Being Evil Sucks: Celestia abandoned all life on Equus to a slow, painful death before trying to force the whole of mankind to convert into more ponies and house Equestria on Earth so that her subjects would be spared the death of their sun, and in return lost everything she held dear: her whole family (sans Twilight and Spike, who both immediately disown her as soon as they discover what she's done) was killed, her nation was invaded and completely devastated, nearly all of her beloved ponies turned against her, and finally she herself was executed after waking up from a coma that lasted for several years, and afterwards will be remembered as a murderer and monster even worse than Hitler by future generations. | |
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War Is Hell | |
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War Is Hell: Said word-for-word by Halberd Wings in Warfare, who admits the humans certainly were right on the money with this. The ponies really were not prepared for the sheer brutality of how the humans wage war, especially with the Anti-Magic weapons they developed turning the ponies' biggest advantage moot. | |
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Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters | |
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Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters: The Equestrian Freedom Fighters are fighting for and clinging stubbornly to the "old" Equestria, but they are little more than terrorists who have murdered and assassinated many innocent humans and ponies in the years following the war's end. They're all wiped out in Useless. | |
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20 Minutes into the Future | |
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20 Minutes into the Future: The first story was published in 2016 and Equestria first appeared on Earth in 2036. The Conversion War itself kicked off in 2046 and concluded by 2051. Future meanwhile takes place over three hundred years after Twilight's death in Rest. At Luna's funeral, it's mentioned that Luna only returned from the moon (and thus, the first two episodes of the series) twenty years earlier. | |
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Earn Your Happy Ending | |
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Fluttershy married Martin, adopted three children, and lives a happy and peaceful life with them while working as an author. | |
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Forbidden Zone | |
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Forbidden Zone: The Crystal Empire is now a nuclear wasteland polluted with enough radioactive fallout to render it uninhabitable for the next three hundred years. | |
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Together in Death | |
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Together in Death: Due to the gravediggers being short one grave, Lightning Dust and Limestone Pie are buried in the same one, under the same tombstone. | |
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The Mourning After | |
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The Mourning After: Right before he dies, Discord reveals he had loved Fluttershy ever since she reformed him, but made up all sorts of excuses for why it would never work between them. She was the only one he ever loved and he goes to his grave regretting never having acted on those feelings. | |
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Great Offscreen War | |
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Great Offscreen War: The war between Equestria and Earth already concluded by the time of Negotiations, with humanity emerging as the victor. The conflict went on for five years, led to heavy losses for both sides, and continues to hang a shadow over the world even after centuries went by. Warfare expands on the conflict a bit from the perspective of a Royal Guard, but it's written in the form of his journal entries. It shows such things as the fighting in Indonesia and Sri Lanka, the aftermath of the Battle of Jerusalem, and the Invasion of Equestria. Choice actually averts this trope, as it shows events like the use of the Crystal Cannon, the Battle of Jerusalem, the atomic bombing of the Crystal Empire, and the Invasion of Equestria from the perspective of ponies who were actually there. It also offers descriptions of significant wartime actions, such as the deaths of Shining Armor and Luna. | |
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Last Stand | |
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In "Rejection", Celestia rallies a bunch of ponies into carrying out a suicidal Last Stand that would go on to be known as "The March of Fools". Rarity, Sweetie Belle, and Apple Bloom died in the March, and Equestria suffered a worse loss in the total population overall (close to three-quarters compared to the canon universe's half). | |
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How the Mighty Have Fallen | |
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How the Mighty Have Fallen: Celestia, following Equestria's decisive defeat, is completely and utterly brought down to the lowest a near-Physical God can be, having all her power and titles stripped from her and scorned by the populace that once literally worshipped her. It's lampshaded in Truth with Twilight describing her as a goddess who had fallen into disgrace. The Choice chapter "Indignation, Part 1" shows the day she woke up from her coma, with the humans and ponies who are monitoring her either laughing at her as she futilely tries to break out of her prison and dishes out empty threats to kill them all or tries to bribe anyone into releasing her. | |
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Suicidal Overconfidence | |
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Suicidal Overconfidence: The ultimate factor in Luna's demise. The victories she scored prior to the Battle of Jerusalem made her complacent and unable to even consider that mankind could make a weapon capable of harming her in any way. The Thalmann generators proved otherwise, and even then she still believed she could beat back the humans' assault, or at least Hold the Line until her own troops escaped. Then her protective shield was destroyed by an RPG and it was all over for her at that point. The ponies as a whole, when going into the war, initially had a bit of this. They had never known an evil they could not defeat, and thus, they were absolutely sure that these divided, warmongering monkeys would fall just as easily. Several still held this belief even when the tide turned against them, and in the closing months of the war, expressed confusion as to how it could have gone so wrong. | |
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Faking the Dead | |
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Faking the Dead: Bon Bon faked her death during the Bombing of Ponyville so she could later reemerge as the leader of the Equestrian Freedom Fighters under her true name, Sweetie Drops. Celestia was poisoned during General Valkyrie's coup attempt and survived, but played possum to trick the rebellious general and her co-conspirators into revealing themselves, after which they were all killed. The resistance was using this to smuggle defectors out of Equestria safely - Vinyl Scratch, Derpy Hooves, Dinky Doo, and Carrot Top all get fakes that they swap positions with. | |
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Series Fauxnale | |
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Series Fauxnale: Warfare was intended to be Rated Ponystar's final venture into the Negotiationsverse, leaving it open to others who wished to dabble in it. This was backed up by the epilogue in that story being chronologically the final event in the 'verse. The huge popularity of Warfare and Choice convinced him to come back with the Alternate Universe story Fallen. | |
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You Killed My Father | |
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You Killed My Father: Limestone joined the EFF to avenge her sister Pinkie, who died in the Bombing of Ponyville. | |
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Gunboat Diplomacy | |
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Gunboat Diplomacy: During the first peace treaty negotiations between Equestria and Earth, UN representative Anthony Doyle doesn't mince words that Equestria is completely at humanity's mercy and the fact that they're having peace talks at all is a miracle in and of itself. | |
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Alternate Self | |
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Reaction has Canon Celestia going through a variation of one - not because she committed the atrocities her Negotiationsverse counterpart did, but because she can follow the train of logic her Alternate Self had and could see herself doing them. | |
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Crisis of Faith | |
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Crisis of Faith: Halberd Wings' religious beliefs were first tested at a young age when his grandma died, but they are really put through the wringer after Luna is killed, a complete contradiction against the teachings he grew up on. In the wake of this trial, he and many others still held firm to their faith, while some other ponies outright forsook theirs altogether. Zigzagged with Halberd's father - he doesn't believe the Alicorns are gods anymore after hearing of the deaths of Luna, Cadence, and Flurry Heart. He still does believe in a higher power, but the Alicorns aren't it. He also still gives sermons at his church because it gives the Equestrians some semblance of hope and stability. According to the post-war timeline, after Twilight Sparkle revealed that their old world was not only dead, but that Celestia knowingly abandoned the other races when jumping Equestria to Earth and lied to everyone about how the non-ponies who tried to escape Equestria really died, the Church of Harmony was eventually dismantled and the remaining ponies either became atheists, joined existing human religions (as was the case with Fluttershy becoming a Catholic and Lyra converting to Buddhism), or (to a much lesser extent) even looked to ancient religions that predated the founding of Equestria. | |
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Depending on the Writer | |
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Depending on the Writer: Lightning Dust is portrayed as not particularly enthusiastic about the EFF's mission of restoring the old, pre-Earth Equestria, having only joined because she had nothing else to live for. Previously, the "Radicalization" chapter of Choice suggested she was just as fanatical about it as Applejack. | |
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Evil Is Petty | |
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Evil Is Petty: While Celestia might have had understandable reasons to mistrust the other races due to their history of conflict with the ponies and nasty traits, she didn't trust the ponies from Saddle Arabia simply because they never accepted Equestria's culture and rule. In other words, she left an entire country of her own kind behind in a world that would die simply because they weren't part of her sovereign. | |
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Young Future Famous People | |
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Young Future Famous People: Anthony Doyle, the representative from the United Nations in Negotiations, later becomes president of the United States. | |
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Pet the Dog | |
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Pet the Dog: In the Choice chapter "Teleportation", General Valkyrie (then a Lieutenant Colonel) expresses disgust and horror at the proposal to leave the newfoals behind while withdrawing the troops from human lands. | |
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Death Seeker | |
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Rainbow Dash became a Death Seeker, joined an anti-human terrorist cell, and was killed by law enforcement officers. | |
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