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Expanded from a short story by David Weber that first appeared in George R. R. Martin and Gardner Dozois's anthology Warriors (2010), Out of the Dark, released the same year, is a series known for its unusual take on military science fiction.In the very near future, Earth has been targeted for colonization by a galactic empire known as the Hegemony. Deemed "lunatic local sentients" by a survey team that witnessed King Henry V and his troops slaughtering the French at Agincourt, humankind has essentially been written off as bloodthirsty, backwater barbarians that no one will particularly miss. It's The End of the World as We Know It. Technologically superior, carnivorous, canine-analog aliens have invaded Earth with the intention of killing most of us and enslaving the rest. Things don't go according to plan.If you don't want to spoil the ending, don't scroll down to the Index list at the bottom of this page, or even glance at the review page. The sequel, called Into the Light (coauthored by Chris Kennedy), was released on January 12th, 2021, after more than a decade in Development Hell. The third installment, To Challenge Heaven was released on January 16th, 2024. | |
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Aliens Speaking English: Most high ranking Shongairi personnel seem to be able to speak some Human languages such as English thanks to "belt translators", though they do have their own language. | |
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Abnormal Ammo: Shongairi mortars use a wide range of ammunition types, which include two different High Explosive rounds, incendiary rounds, smoke rounds, and one that releases some kind of fast-acting neurotoxin. | |
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Trailers Always Spoil | |
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Trailers Always Spoil: The Publishers Weekly summary leaves no doubt as to the nature of the twist at the end of the novel. | |
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Hidden Agenda Villain: Fleet Commander Thikair realizes that humanity's inventiveness could be used to bootstrap the Shongairi's reverse-engineering processes to give them a technological edge over the Hegemony, which sees them as a potential problem, but a useful proxy to deal with any ambitious junior members. By the end of the third book, the Shongairi, indeed, begin to benefit from human inventiveness, but not at all in the way Thikair intended. | |
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Genre Shift | |
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Genre Shift: The genre shift doesn't take place until near the end of Out of the Dark, resulting in a cry of Twist Ending or Deus ex Machina. The issue is that the novel's expansion of the short story is entirely before the twist, resulting in 90% being in the genre of hard sci-fi alien invasion. The last 10%, however, involves Dracula. | |
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Twist Ending | |
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Twist Ending: The last few pages of this novel shift this novel's genre signficantly away from Weber's usual Hard Sci-Fi by introducing vampires. YMMV, but few reviewers seem to appreciate it. The sequel partly untwists it by explaining that the "vampires" are actually robotic beings composed of nanobots. | |
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The Right of a Superior Species | |
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The Right of a Superior Species: The Shongairi usually do this successfully but get way more than they bargained for with humanity. | |
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Defeat Means Friendship | |
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Defeat Means Friendship: In the third novel, Dvorak intends to utterly curb-stomp the Shongairi Home Fleet and capture their orbital habitat in order to satisfy the requirements of Jukaris (the Shongairi honor code) and allow the Shongairi emperor to submit (the emperor privately laments not being able to do it without having to send thousands of his warriors to die first, but his people would never accept the submissions otherwise). After being going to the PUNS Relentless, the emperor is told that humanity doesn't need servants, they need allies, and that's why Dvorak stopped Vlad from wiping out the Shongairi. | |
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Gone Horribly Right | |
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Gone Horribly Right: Thikar planned the Shonghairi invasion to take place immediately after an extensive covert intelligence gathering campaign, followed by the simultaneous kinetic bombardment of every major military base and government center on record. The idea was to cripple humanity's ability to fight back in a massive opening salvo with minimal infrastructural damage outside of that, forcing them to surrender. However, as the targets included the major administrative organizations that might negotiate surrender, no one was left to tell their forces and civilians to stand down, leading to partisan actions, reprisal strikes, more partisan actions, and a protracted quagmire for the Shonghairi. There are some implications that parts of the Hegemony might have picked up from the scouting report that humans could be actually dangerous (and not just potentially dangerous if allowed to develop), and set the Shonghairi on Earth in the expectation that the Shonghairi might expend more resources than gained. They did, alright. To the point that the novel ends with the year noted as Year 1 of the Terran Empire. Furthermore, one of the reasons Fleet Commander Thikair chose to act the way he did was to try and harness humanity's rapid technological progression so the Shongairi Empire can gain an edge over the rest of the Hegemony. By the end of the third book, the Shongairi Empire begins to do exactly that...as equal partners with humanity in a growing interstellar alliance. | |
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Body Language | |
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Body Language: After arriving to the orbit of Sarth and studying the natives with their spy drones (modified from Shongairi drones to be even stealthier), the human emissaries study the natives' body language and learn that their nonverbal cues for "yes" and "no" are the exact opposite of those common on Earth (i.e. they shake their heads to indicate an affirmative and nod to indicate a negative). After first contact, Sarthians note that humans tend to often start nodding, only to then shake their heads, as if catching themselves. | |
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And This Is for... | |
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And This Is for...: When Mircea finally lets Buchevsky have his revenge by executing Thikair, he states that this is for his daughters, who were killed in the pre-invasion orbital strikes. | |
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Death from Above | |
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Death from Above: Humans have their aircraft while the Shongairi have Kinetic Weapons. | |
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Asskicking Leads to Leadership | |
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Asskicking Leads to Leadership: It's a bone-deep part of Shongairi psychology, and (at first) they view humanity's "never say die" mentality as consciously dishonorable; when they realize it's innate to our species, they decide we're clinically insane. | |
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Alternative Calendar | |
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Alternative Calendar: Various chapters provide the date in both the Gregorian and the galactic standard calendar. The epilogue of the first book introduces a third calendar, replacing the Hegemony's calendar with the notation "Year 1 of the Terran Empire". | |
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Papa Wolf | |
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Papa Wolf: Humanity's hat. The Shongairi's psychology is built around a pack structure, and thus they automatically submit to superior members of the pack. Most herbivore species' psychology is herd-oriented, causing them to submit out of automatic fear-response and a desire to deflect threats away from the herd as a whole. Humans, however, are family-oriented - and they respond to threats against members of their families with swift and seemingly-irrational violence. | |
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The Quisling | |
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The Quisling: Largely averted as a whole by humanity thanks to our collective outrage and the Shongairi's failure to understand human psychology and their "no carrot, all stick" approach. Then we get Governor Howell of North Carolina, who is actually a mole— something the Shongairi can't really conceive of until late in the book. Not only that, but he is instrumental in the sequel in trying to unify all the isolated pockets of survivors into a One World Order. | |
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Do Not Adjust Your Set | |
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Do Not Adjust Your Set: Fleet Commander Thikair hijacks Humanity's TV and Internet to demand Earth's surrender after the kinetic bombardment. | |
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Semper Fi | |
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Semper Fi: Master Sargent Stephen Buchevsky is a US Marine and was an instructor when he wasn't stationed in the Middle East. Rob Wilson, David's brother in law, is a former Marine Corps instructor. When it comes time to form the Continental Union Armed Forces, Rob is livid that there won't be a marine corps. To his credit, he manages to convince the brass to rename the nascent Continental Union Armed Forces Expeditionary Forces to Space Marines, especially since he finds the acronym CUAFEF ridiculous and sounding like a cat coughing up a furball. | |
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Good Guns, Bad Guns | |
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Good Guns, Bad Guns: Averted. Old Soviet hardware is lovingly appreciated by the resistance in Romania. | |
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Failure Is the Only Option | |
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Failure Is the Only Option: Human militaries outmatch the Shongairi, but cannot defeat them thanks to the Kinetic weapons on the Shongairi's side. Both the Shongairi and Liatu navies face the same when they come up against the highly upgraded human space navy. | |
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Death of a Child | |
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Death of a Child: In one particular scene in Chapter XVIII (18). | |
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Kill Sat | |
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Kill Sat: The Shongairi use their kinetic weapons to try to pound Earth into submission. | |
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Uncertain Doom | |
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Uncertain Doom: Admiral Robinson, who briefly takes command of the U.S. military after most of the cities and military bases are destroyed and organizes the first (quite effective) counterattack. He's targeted by the Shongairi immediately afterwards and multiple characters question/specualte whether he got away in time but are often told there's been no word of him since. | |
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Crusading Widow | |
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Crusading Widow: Most of the main male characters lose their entire family in the invasion. | |
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Outside-Genre Foe | |
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Outside-Genre Foe: Both sides are this to each other for various reasons. The vampires throw this trope back in the alien's face. Subverted in the sequel, where it's revealed that the vampires were created using by aliens using technological means and aren't supernatural in the least. | |
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Break the Haughty | |
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Break the Haughty: The Shongairi slowly start to lose morale as they realize that the backwater spear swinging primitives are anything but. | |
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Faster-Than-Light Travel | |
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Faster-Than-Light Travel: The Hegemony has phase drives that allow them to travel several times the speed of light. This requires the use of Sleeper Starships in order to get anywhere meaningful, since trips routinely take decades or even centuries. In the second novel, human scientists have managed to improve on the tech and increase the speed by 50%. | |
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Succession Crisis | |
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Succession Crisis: Since the President and the entire line of succession, in accordance with the 25th Amendment, has been wiped out, there's no clear candidate to take the post of President. North Carolina Governor Judson Howell takes the reigns as the largest and most organized part of the country. While a congressman manages to survive the Shongairi attack, he wisely chooses to step aside, as Howell represents a far larger constituency than the people who elected him. This is less of an issue in Canada and Brazil, as the two people who become Prime Minister and President, respectively, were in the line of succession, albeit very far down. | |
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False Flag Operation | |
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False Flag Operation: The aliens use Iran as a cover when hacking world military installations right before the invasion. | |
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Lightspeed Leapfrog | |
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Lightspeed Leapfrog: Vlad and the vampires spend all of the second novel flying to the Shongairi homeworld at roughly 6 times the speed of light, taking them about 40 years. Just as they're preparing to repay the Shongairi for their attack on Earth, they detect a massive spindle-shaped vessel gaining on them at an unbelievable acceleration. Then Dave Dvorak contacts Vlad from his brand-new ship that has left Earth 6 years ago and has actually beaten them there by a month. And she's not alone — there's a fleet of nineteen ships, ranging from transport and supply ships to enormous superdreadnoughts. And then we find out that the fleet sent to Tairyon a few years after Dvorak's departure is even faster and more powerful (Dvorak knew that there was going to be another breakthrough in FTL tech, but he had to arrive before Vlad did). | |
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Glass Cannon | |
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Glass Cannon: Shongairi ground vehicles are very well armed, with lasers that punch through modern tank armor like paper and advanced and powerful mortars. However, their armor is only rated to fight crossbows and catapults, so human anti-armor weapons go through theirs like paper too. Subverted in that they are later revealed to have designs for better hardware, but it took them a while to get their production facilities up and running. | |
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Fantastic Ship Prefix | |
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Fantastic Ship Prefix: The Planetary Union Navy uses PUNS for its spaceships, which presumably stands for "Planetary Union Navy Ship". | |
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Reluctant Ruler | |
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Reluctant Ruler: Dave Dvorak becomes this after "Clan Dvorak" defeats Clan Qwern, thereby becoming the new ruling dynasty of the Qwer— Dvorakian Empire. This allows him to sign the agreement to join the alliance with Earth. While he could have refused rulership, the result would've been chaos caused by a lack of succession. When he meets Vlad in the third book, he has three Sarthian bodyguards following him at all times, wearing the tartan kilts of the Scottish Clan Gunn, of all things. After becoming pack lord to Haymar (and, by extension, the entire Shongair Empire), he keeps shutting down any suggestions by the Sarthians and Haymar that he needs to be an emperor in order for their people to accept his rule. The eventually find a compromise by forming a new supranational governing body with Dvorak as its official representative. | |
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Explosive Breeder | |
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Explosive Breeder: Humans, compared to most other races at this stage of development. The Shongairi are shocked to discover that Earth is home to 7 billion people, whereas the next closest example is only half a billion. | |
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La Résistance | |
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La Résistance: Partisans operate all around the world, and prove to be a major thorn in the Shongairi's side. | |
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"Die Hard" on an X | |
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"Die Hard" on an X: Up until the TwistEnding, it's basically Worldwar in the twenty-first century, with the political and technological issues adjusted accordingly. | |
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Magnetic Weapons | |
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In the second novel, the humans decide to go with railguns instead of energy weapons, since railguns pack a lot more of a punch and are very good at penetrating armor. For tanks they particularly prefer discarding sabot rounds for better penetration. As for handheld rail weapons, they pretty much pulverize any flesh they encounter and can easily go through three or four people. | |
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But What About the Astronauts? | |
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But What About the Astronauts?: The Shongairi eventually start knocking out Human satellites in orbit. Assuming this means the space stations such as the ISS are among them. | |
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Boring, but Practical | |
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Boring, but Practical: You don't need a military grade BFG to kill Shongairi troops, even hunting and recreational firearms work well against them. When Dave Dvorak gets a good look at the standard Shongairi rifle, he is somewhat confused as to why they aren't using their equivalent of an Eotech sight instead of iron sights. Dave then remembers that Humans have been killing each just fine for centuries with good old fashioned sights. | |
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Aliens Are Bastards | |
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Aliens Are Bastards: The Shongairi and the Hegemony are condescending about those they see as lesser species and have no compunctions about exploiting them or being complicit to genocide. In the third novel, though, we learn that the Shongairi aren't as bad as initially thought. In fact, Thikair's actions would never have been sanctioned back home, as they go strictly against their honor code (no slaughtering civilians, no attacking without announcing yourself, etc.). | |
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Deadly Gas | |
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Deadly Gas: Shongairi mortars are able to fire a round the releases a fast acting neurotoxin. | |
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Schizo Tech | |
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Schizo Tech: How Earth is viewed. Not only is it weird for us to still be using fossil fuel power and yet to be avoiding chemical & biological weapons, but we've done things with military technology no other race ever would have because they would've been unified by that point. | |
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Powered Armor | |
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Powered Armor: In the first part of the second book, powered armor is being developed under the name Project Heinlein. In the third novel, we see Heinleins being deployed alongside the heavier M4 Bangalores that can take a heavy anti-tank missile and shrug it off. | |
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Curb-Stomp Battle | |
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Both the Shongairi and Liatu navies face the same when they come up against the highly upgraded human space navy. | |
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Do Not Go Gentle | |
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Do Not Go Gentle: Around halfway through the novel, most Humans decide that if they can't beat their orbital firepower, then they will kill as many as they can on the ground. | |
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Humans Are Morons | |
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Humans Are Morons: The Shongairi are initially convinced of this, based on "idiotic tactics" from Agincourt, and a further convinced of it once they understand the current situation. For example, they believe that the refusal of First World powers to use nuclear or biological weapons against their enemies in the Middle East is idiotic (specifically citing the US's tolerance of Iran's actions) and the presence of a public information network like the Internet, allowing free, ready access to vast stores of information, is considered completely insane. The whole reason the aliens want to kill us is because they believe we're mindlessly violent and would lash out uncontrolled against other species. The Shongairi think we're stupid for not using weapons of mass destruction against the population of the Middle East to kill off the terrorists, regardless of the ecological damage and the countless innocents who would die horribly. | |
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Make It Look Like an Accident | |
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Make It Look Like an Accident: One of the Hegemony's more pragmatic founding races basically tells the Shongairi that they'll look the other way if humanity doesn't happen to make it through this. Later, when the Shongairi decide we're too dangerous to use as slaves, they plan to make the release of their bioweapon look like an accident to deflect political fallout. | |
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Deus ex Machina | |
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Deus ex Machina: Throughout the story, the Shongairi invaders consistently lose ground battles to humans but pulverize the entire area from orbit afterwards. Towards the end they learn enough human tactics to capture a rebel village without resorting to orbital bombardment and develop a bioweapon to destroy what's left of humanity (clearly unaware that we happen to be extremely well versed in biological warfare). But just as they're about to deploy the virus the leader of the village they captured to experiment on turns out to be freakin' Dracula and he and a handful of newly-spawned vampires single-handedly wipe out the entire invasion force. Hints that Dracula was present were scattered throughout the book, but were relatively subtle, and the reader is expecting a hard sci-fi war novel, and not fantasy elements to creep in and sucker punch them. Granted, the subsequent books revealed that there's a very good sci-fi explanation as to how these vampires work.. | |
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Bittersweet Ending | |
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Bittersweet Ending: By the end of the first book, Humanity has all it needs to strike back at the Shongairi homeworlds and the Hegemony, and to rebuild Earth but at the cost of three billion human lives thanks to the pre-landing orbital strikes and an unknown amount lost during the fighting on Earth. | |
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"Could Have Avoided This!" Plot | |
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"Could Have Avoided This!" Plot: The humans point out that the entire war could have been avoided if the Shongairi hadn't announced their presence with orbital bombardment and instead simply showed up to offer humans "carrots" i.e. gifts of advanced technology. The Shongairi eventually realize it too, but far too late. | |
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Humans Through Alien Eyes | |
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Humans Through Alien Eyes: Generally, the alien perception of humanity is that we're insane or idiots. | |
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Honor Before Reason | |
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Honor Before Reason: The Shongairi follow a strict honor code called "Jukaris" that has been compared to bushido. After studying it extensively, Dave comes to the conclusion that Thikair acted of his own volition, and his actions would likely be seen by most Shongairi as dishonorable (by attacking without announcing himself or allowing humans the chance to fight back; also by killing women and children rather than warriors). That is why he rushes the newly-built fleet to the Shong System in order to beat Vlad there and stop him from laying waste to the Shongairi homeworld. His goal is instead to force the Shongairi to submit to Earth (as is normal for a Shongairi "beta" to submit to a stronger "alpha") and become their allies in the coming war against the Hegemony. The Shongairi emperor laments the necessity of sending his warriors to die in a hopeless battle against the humans instead of simply ordering them to stand down and surrender, but Jukaris is clear on what has to be done. | |
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Energy Weapon | |
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Energy Weapon: The Shongairi "tank's" main armament is a laser emitter rather than say a 120mm cannon. These are very powerful and can tear through our armor easily, but is weakened by Earth's atmosphere and can't go through depleted uranium-augmented Chobham armor, but it can go through Ferdinand armor. | |
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Worthy Opponent | |
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Worthy Opponent: Regiment Commander Harah, despite hating them with a passion, still admires Humanity's ingenuity and resistance. Of course, he would never dare say this aloud. You aren't exactly doing a good job if you have to count people killed by orbital bombardment and civilians murdered by soldiers in your kill count to feel better about how badly your ass is being kicked: we’ve killed thousands of them for every Shongair we’ve lost | |
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Cool Versus Awesome | |
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Cool Versus Awesome: At the end, the book is essentially about Wolf Man aliens with orbital bombardments vs. various modern armies and fucking Dracula! | |
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Expanded States of America | |
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Expanded States of America: In the second book, following the Divided States of America, the state government of North Carolina consolidates power in the surviving enclaves in the US under Governor Judson Howell. Since the entire presidential line of succession is gone, Howell is appointed the new president. The trope is zigzagged, though, as Howell's plan is to create a new supranational governing body, first over the Americas, and then across the entire world. Being American himself, he wants the new Continental Union of the Americas to be a federal government like the US, with individual countries retaining their autonomy where it doesn't interfere with the established CU constitution and the laws passed by the CU congress. The congress is to be bicameral, mirroring the US Congress, except senators will be appointed by the countries' legislatures instead of elected by the people (the way it was for the US originally). There will be an Electoral College to ensure that countries with the larger populations don't dominate presidential elections. While the US isn't going anywhere, it will now be a part of this supranational body, equal to any other. The first member nations are the US, Canada, and Brazil (the latter is necessary to convince the rest of the world that this isn't going to be dominated by English-speaking nations). In the second part of the book, set 15 years later, it's mentioned that the Continental Union only existed for 5 years until the first nations from other continents began to join, at which point it was reformed into the Planetary Union of Earth. | |
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Combat Pragmatist | |
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Combat Pragmatist: Eventually, the Shongairi, realizing that the humans have far too many personal firearms and experience in warfare than they do, start to use their control of Earth's orbitals to their advantage. Any time a Shongairi patrol is wiped out in a partisan ambush, the area is bombarded using a kinetic strike in Disproportionate Retribution to eliminate any survivors. Even with this tactic, the expedition's command staff later authorize kinetic bombardment fire missions to be called in by any of their field commanders. | |
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Improvised Weapon | |
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Improvised Weapon: From IEDs to homemade Claymore mines. | |
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Hit-and-Run Tactics | |
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Hit-and-Run Tactics: Human Tank battalions rely on such tactics due to having to get the hell out of Dodge before Shongairi Kinetic weapons get a lock on them. | |
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Higher-Tech Species | |
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Higher-Tech Species: The Shongairi technology is very carefully calibrated to be just advanced enough to avert a Curb-Stomp Battle—and permit humanity to show what determined and gallant warriors we are—while still ensuring the eventual outcome will not be in our favor, necessitating the Deus ex Machina in the Twist Ending. Also, due to a quirk of human psychology, we're the only species that has ever reached our current tech level without world peace and thus invented things like modern stealth fighters. The Shongairi are far higher tech, but are just kitted out for the wrong war and could dominate us if they weren't. They still hold the top of the gravity well and have better bioweapons and cyber-warfare tech. | |
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Disproportionate Retribution | |
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Disproportionate Retribution: The Shongairi retaliate for a group of tanks wiping out one of their ground convoys with an orbital kinetic strike that not only destroys the human tanks but also the nearby city. This eventually becomes standard practice as a reprisal against any ambushed patrol, and even near the end of the first novel, any Shongairi field officer can start requesting kinetic strike fire missions if they deem it necessary. | |
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Crazy-Prepared | |
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Crazy-Prepared: Of course, if there hadn't actually been an Alien Invasion, it just would have been... crazy. On the Hegemony side, all the tech has dozens of layers of redundancy, since it's designed to work for centuries without fail. This means that a countergrav generator could potentially be 80% smaller than what it is now, if they were willing to go down to the expected equipment lifetime of only 80 years or so. | |
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The Cartel | |
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The Cartel: With Mexico City a smoking crater and the federal government in shambles, the drug cartels have taken the opportunity to carve out their own little fiefdoms over what used to be Mexico. Since the US needs a strong ally in the south, they have been sending squads of vampires to take out the cartel leadership in order to re-establish the legitimate government of Mexico. | |
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Guns Akimbo | |
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Guns Akimbo: Rob Wilson does this out of desperation when Shongairi soldiers are closing in on him and an injured Dave. The concept is even deconstructed during the same scene. | |
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This Is Unforgivable! | |
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This Is Unforgivable!: Absolutely no one on Earth will even consider helping the Shongairi thanks to their repeated orbital bombardment and the billions of human deaths. The Shongairi discovering this (which is completely incomprehensible to their own pack-based instincts to not bear grudges over defeats and demonstrations of superiority) is what prompts them to decide they're better off exterminating humanity completely, having finally realised that a planet full of bereaved humans will drive themselves extinct in a war of eternal vengeance before sincerely submitting. | |
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Virtue Is Weakness | |
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Virtue Is Weakness: The stated opinion of the Liatu where other, non-Liatu, species are concerned. Any species, like humans for example, who actually care about the well-being and humane treatment of races besides their own must be of inferior intelligence. | |
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The Empire | |
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The Empire: The Shongairi Empire. Year one of the Terran (aka Human) Empire begins after the defeat of the Shongairi. | |
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Stupidity-Inducing Attack | |
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Stupidity-Inducing Attack: The Liatu used a genetic weapon to do this to the Tairyonians when they invaded their planet. It turned their entire speices from Iron Age city builders to the intelligence equivilant of Earth's Gorillas. For humans, this is treated as Mind Rape. | |
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Let's Get Dangerous! | |
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Let's Get Dangerous!: The poor Shongairi did not expect backwater omnivores to pack armor-piercing, antipersonnel ammo, IED expertise, or the F-22, the M1 Abrams, or the T-72. In the second novel, the Qwernian Empire on Sarth get a dose of this after they capture a number of human diplomats in order to hold them hostage and force humans to deal with them exclusively. Humans instead mount a full-scale assault on their capital city and easily storm their palace without a single human casualty. | |
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Green Aesop | |
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Green Aesop: A minor example. Apparently, the Shongairi value prime grazing lands as food for their food animals. So they do their best to avoid polluting the environment. When they saw that humanity was still heavily using fossil fuels despite developing nuclear power, they're shocked. It may have contributed to Thikair's decision to attempt genocide of humanity. | |
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Fantastic Racism | |
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Fantastic Racism: Within the Hegemony, between carnivores and herbivores/omnivores. The Shongairi have nothing but contempt for humanity as well, at least at first. The revelation of the vampires makes a lot of mankind...uncomfortable. The entire Hegemony, but the Liatu in particular as the only Founding Race that humanity has had knowing contact with, appear to view less technologically sapient species as lesser. Their "Improper Use of Planetary Resources" is the justification used for displacing, enslaving, genetically modifying and/or outright exterminating planetary natives who can't match their technology. In the case of the Tairyonians, who were stripped of their intelligence during the invasion, Howell literally equates the Liatu's views to those of the Nazis. | |
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Enemy Mine | |
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Enemy Mine: According to the blurb for the as-yet unreleased third novel, the humans are going to try turning the Shongairi into allies against the Founders, but first that requires crushing their planetary defenses in order to satisfy their honor code. | |
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Call a Rabbit a "Smeerp" | |
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Call a Rabbit a "Smeerp": Shongairi equivalent to rabbits are known as "garishes". | |
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It's All My Fault | |
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It's All My Fault: Stephen Buchevsky blames himself for the villagers he was protecting getting killed or captured. Mircea helps convince him that it isn't. | |
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Upgrade Artifact | |
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Upgrade Artifact: The Shongairi test direct "neural education" on humanity and finds us surprisingly better at receiving it than most of the Hegemony's species. | |
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Clarke's Third Law | |
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Clarke's Third Law: Brigade Commander Harshair briefly reminisces that the savages from their earlier colonization campaigns were convinced that the Shongairi troops were wizards who could see in pitch black darkness thanks to their night vision tech. | |
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Space Navy | |
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Space Navy: The Planetary Union Navy is exclusively space-based. If there's anything the invasion has demonstrated, it's that a wet navy is utterly useless to anyone holding the orbitals and can see any ship in the ocean plain as day, being able to drop rocks on them well outside their range. Thus there no longer needs to be a wet navy. On the other hand, in order to standardize uniforms and rank insignia, as well as to avoid confusion, all the military branches now use the same ranking systems, so no admirals in charge of fleets or captains commanding ships. This does end up changing, however, as the naval personnel demand to be allowed to continue the old "wet" navy traditions, including the ranks. | |
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Time Skip | |
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Time Skip: The first part of Into the Light takes place not long after the invasion is over. The second part jumps forward 15 years. There are additional jumps by months and years in the novel. In fact, the epilogue takes place about 40 years after the beginning of the novel. | |
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Sacrificial Lion | |
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Sacrificial Lion: Colonel Sanders. Lasts a good ways into the novel, and inflicts a brutal defeat on the Shongari that gets talked about for the rest of the novel, but is killed in the bombing that follows. | |
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Sequel Hook | |
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Sequel Hook: The end of the book makes it clear that since we have decades until the Hegemony realizes the Shongairi haven't responded back to them, Humanity plans on bringing the fight to them with captured Shongairi tech. | |
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Game-Breaking Injury | |
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Game-Breaking Injury: Dave Dvorak, after taking a round to the shoulder, is forced to sit on the sidelines and take care of intel. | |
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Armor Is Useless | |
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Armor Is Useless: Shongairi troop and vehicle armor is great against primitives with sticks and crossbows. Not so much against combat rifles, tanks, and rocket launchers. | |
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Planet of Hats | |
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Planet of Hats: Earth is a planet of Determinators who happen to be Mama Bears and Papa Wolves. Notably, this is the conclusion reached by Base Commander Shairez because there is no other truly common thread she can discern, due to the violent diversity of human culture. The entire trope is discussed and deconstructed in-universe, though not by name, at the end of the first half of the third book by a delegation of humans, Shongairi, and Sarthians. The Hegemony tends to boil down species' psychologies based on specific stereotypes pertaining to their biological origins, namely herbivorous, omnivorous, and carnivorous categories, but the humans and their allies realize that a species should be best understood based on how similar and how different they are to others, as neatly filing them away into boxes means that anything outside of that box gets disregarded. | |
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Mook Horror Show | |
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Mook Horror Show: The book is full of POVs of Shongairi soldiers freaking out as their comrades are slaughtered by human weaponry and vampires. | |
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Explain, Explain... Oh, Crap! | |
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Explain, Explain... Oh, Crap!: The Earth delegation to Sarth wants an opinion on a discussion between one of their own diplomatic attaches and Myrcal, the Qwernian Foreign Minister, from a native Sarthian. It is there that they discover that the Qwernian word for "councilor", which the humans have been using as a title for their junior diplomatic attaches, also means "deputy". Myrcal has been under the assumption that Arthur McCabe, a junior member of the delegation, is their Ambassador's immediate subordinate, due to this mistranslation. And the members of the Earth delegation begin to wonder what else Myrcal has incorrectly assumed about the humans, and how that might be shaping Qwernian foreign policy... | |
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Rebel Leader | |
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Rebel Leader: Mircea Basarab leads a human resistance group in Romania. | |
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Lady Land | |
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Lady Land: The Liatu are a matriarchy with women holding nearly all positions of power. There may be an occasional man as a high-ranking advisor, but women are still at the top. The only exception is the military that consists entirely of men, but even they obey their female leaders without question. | |
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Hopeless War | |
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Hopeless War: Though mankind fights tenaciously and wins small victories, it ultimately has no way of defending itself from an enemy that controls the orbitals. It's hopeless for humanity, until the Twist Ending. | |
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Meaningful Name | |
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Meaningful Name: Mircea Basarab. See Genius Bonus on the YMMV page. | |
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Fantastic Slurs | |
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Fantastic Slurs: The Shongairi use "weed-eater" as an epithet for the herbivorous members of the Hegemony Humanity calls the Shongairi "puppies." The Liatu call the Tairyonians, the native sapient species of a planet they invaded, "Nuisance Animals". | |
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Numbered Homeworld | |
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Numbered Homeworld: The Hegemony designated Earth "KU-197-20". | |
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Humans Advance Swiftly | |
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Humans Advance Swiftly: We've advanced three times faster than the fastest known race (which advanced twice as fast as the next best), and no one can figure out why such a warlike species hasn't blown itself up yet. The Shongairi actually intended to take advantage of this, putting humans to work in their R&D labs as well as using them as shock troops. Then we hijack the Shongairi's neural educators, and the end of the novel implies we're getting prepped to eventually return the favor. The second book expands on this and proposes several explanations for why that's the case. For one, the Hegemony is dominated by herbivore species, whose mindset was that technology should help protect them from predators instead of finding better ways to hunt prey. This means that after a certain point, there's really no need to advance at a breakneck pace. This mindset seems to propagate even to omnivores and carnivores in the Hegemony, since they're in the minority. Additionally, pretty much all races in the Hegemony have a Post-Scarcity Economy, limitless energy, and perfect health that allows them to live for centuries. All those factors result in them designing technology to last for a long time and viewing change in a negative light. As a consequence, they're not used to having to repair broken stuff as much as we are. And when things don't break, there's no need to innovate. Humans of the 21st century are used to the mentality of "next year's model will be better" and planned obsolescence. The Hegemony races have no such views. The galactic culture's advancement curve has plateaued around 150,000-100,000 years ago. In contrast, humanity's curve continues to rise. When engineers and scientists get their hands on some specs of Shongairi tech, they're shocked at how overengineered everything is (to the point of having a piece of equipment be 5 times larger than it has to be due to all the redundancy). The engineers' immediate reaction is to scale back on the redundancy to something that is still acceptable by human standards (but would be unforgivably risky to the aliens) to miniaturize the components. And some applications of tech are either absent (any form of AI) or are deliberately suppressed (artificial gravity on ships). The third book reveals that humanity isn't the first rapidly-advancing species the Hegemony has suppressed. The Tairyonians were also omnivores (but with a strong carnivorous streak), and their rate of development, while not nearly as fast as that of humans, was seen as scary to the Hegemony, so the Liatu released a bioweapon that reduced their intelligence to "somewhere between a Labrador retriever and a four-year-old" and then sat back and watched most of them die out. The survivors live a primitive existence as Liatu subjects. Humans intend to kick the Liatu out and repair the genetic damage to the Tairyonians, while uplifting them technologically and culturally in order to recruit them as allies. | |
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Godzilla Threshold | |
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Godzilla Threshold: Thikar eventually concedes the use of genocidal bioweapons as the only option against a planet full of humans who refuse to submit, and are rapidly depleting the invader's reserves. | |
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Awakening the Sleeping Giant | |
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Awakening the Sleeping Giant: When the alien invaders are about to make the human race extinct, someone on Earth finally decides to come out of his self-imposed exile and show them what real monsters can do. | |
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Once More, with Clarity | |
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Once More, with Clarity: The start of the second half of the third book begins with the Liatu military garrison of the colony world of Tairyon driving away the "nuisance animals", the local semi-sentient pest of their planet, in a fairly surgical operation, showing more concern for their own ground troops than the creatures they are herding with sirens, flashbangs, and gunfire. The Liatu characters joke amongst each other and approach the operation with a routine detachment. The next chapter reveals that a human expedition has been watching the feed from near the planet, and they note the "nuisance animals", the native Tairyonians, resemble gorillas or early hominids, and several of the events from the previous chapter play out, but this time emphasizing the Tairyonians' perspective and the abject terror they are experiencing from being driven in a stampede. | |
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Our Presidents Are Different | |
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Our Presidents Are Different: Of the President Minority variety as POTUS is female in this story. | |
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Depopulation Bomb | |
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Depopulation Bomb: The Shongairi open up with a bombardment that kills about half of the world's population, and note that starvation and disease will kill many of the survivors. When resistance continues that severely threatens their ability to maintain control, they plan to instead just wash the whole thing by releasing a bioweapon and wiping out all the survivors. The Liatu used their own bioweapon on the Tairyonians that did this indirectly, reducing their intelligence to "somewhere between a golden retriever and a four-year-old" and letting their burgeoning Iron Age civilization collapse as a result. With the natives no longer able to sustain their numbers without their original intellect, the Liatu moved in on the planet once the dust settled. By the time humans arrive around Tairyon, the Tairyonians number only a few million, tend to live in the more arid areas of their planet that the Liatu prefer avoiding, and the Liatu of the planet have a term for them in their language that translates as "nuisance animals". | |
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Rock Beats Laser | |
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Rock Beats Laser: As it turns out, the depleted uranium-augmented Chobham armor on M1A2 Abrams tanks literally beats Shongairi vehicle mounted lasers. | |
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Eagleland | |
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Eagleland: Type 1. America is awesome, and the aliens recognize the US as one of their biggest threats. | |
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Pronoun Trouble | |
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Pronoun Trouble: After encountering the Sarthians and learning that they have three sexes, Dave Dvorak wonders for a short while about what pronoun to use for the neutro gender. But then the sophisticated translation software they're using comes up with a solution to use the Old English pronoun "ou" and its derivations: ous (his/her), oum (him/her), ouself (himself/herself). The narrator starts using these even before the Sarthians are contacted for the first time, which is likely to confuse the readers before the explanation is given. | |
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Earth-Shattering Kaboom | |
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Earth-Shattering Kaboom: Thikair eventually just decides to blast Earth to asteroids. Later, Vlad threatens to do this to the Shongairi worlds in turn using dreadnought weapons. | |
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"The Reason You Suck" Speech | |
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"The Reason You Suck" Speech: Dracula delivers one of these to Thikair at the end, noting that, among other things, the Shongairi were going to sentence humanity to extinction for daring to defend themselves and fight back against an invader. | |
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Off with His Head! | |
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Off with His Head!: Decapitation is the only way to kill a Vampire. That being said, good luck managing that if you're not a vampire yourself. | |
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Attack Its Weak Point | |
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Attack Its Weak Point: The Shongairi hover tanks have no belly armor, leaving it defenseless against anti-tank mines and IEDs. | |
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BFG | |
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You don't need a military grade BFG to kill Shongairi troops, even hunting and recreational firearms work well against them. | |
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Never Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight | |
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Never Bring a Knife to a Gun Fight: The Shongairi come off as insufficiently advanced because their entire war doctrine revolves around conquering pre-industrial races. Guess what happens when troops trained and equipped to curb-stomp natives with pointy sticks comes up against modern military hardware? | |
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Badass Boast | |
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Badass Boast: Lieutenant Colonel Alastair Sanders gives one to his troops in Chapter XV (15). Sharon Dvorak in Chapter XXX (30) explains to her husband Dave that she will die defending the kids before any of the "floppy eared bastards" come anywhere close to them. | |
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Doing In the Wizard | |
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Doing In the Wizard: Vampires turn out to be more like Stargate's Replicators. Their bodies are composed of advanced nanobots that make them invulnerable to most things and allow them to "disassociate" into gas form that can levitate. It's also why they don't require any sustenance beyond electromagnetic radiation. The scientists studying them state that this is way beyond what the Shongairi have and may also be beyond what the Hegemony has. | |
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Restraining Bolt | |
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Restraining Bolt: Much of Hegemony technology has built-in restrictions to keep it working within acceptable parameters. This also includes their self-learning software (what humans would call primitive AI), which is kept in check by dozens of subroutines. | |
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Deconstructed Trope | |
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Deconstructed Trope: The story deconstructs Humans Are Warriors and Humans Advance Swiftly. The Hegemony witnessed the English slaughtering the French at Agincourt and see how fast human tech is progressing compared to "civilized" races and are scared to hell. So they tell their enforcer race that everyone will turn a blind eye if an accident were to happen to us... Weber also goes out of his way to briefly deconstruct Guns Akimbo and shoulder flesh wounds. Mama Bear and Papa Wolf also get deconstructed when Buchevsky argues that winter will bring the need to defend against good people with starving children. | |
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Kill All Humans | |
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Kill All Humans: The Shongairi plan to kill most humans and enslave the rest turns into this thanks to one asskicking after another. | |
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Macross Missile Massacre | |
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Macross Missile Massacre: In the third novel, each Relentless-class superdreadnought has 2700 missile launchers and can bring two-thirds of them on any firing arc. If every one of those missiles has a Mjölnir bomb-pumped laser warhead, that can potentially mean over 27,000 lasers delivered at point-blank range on a target. And Dave brought four of these superdreadnoughts to the Shong System. During the battle over Shongaru, the opening salvo of the human superdreadnoughts and heavy cruisers consists of 8100 missiles (although only a third of them are actual ship-killers, the rest being penetration aids, decoy generators, and jammers). By the time the first missiles engage their targets, 6 more salvos have been launched. It's stated that a superdreadnought is capable of putting 21 salvos into space before running out of missiles. | |
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Code of Honour | |
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The third book further expands upon the Shongairi's attitudes, revealing that they possess a Code of Honour called Jukaris based on their pack mentality. A conflict with this honor code actually caused the botched invasion of Earth, due to Thikair realizing that, if he openly challenged Earth as the precepts of Jukaris required, humanity would manage to actually beat him on the planet's surface, and he might have to surrender to THEM. As a result, he initiated the orbital bombardment of Earth in a gamble to try and force them to submit without a challenge, and hope no one would ever realize he didn't. | |
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Intelligent Gerbil | |
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Intelligent Gerbil: The two alien species described in the first novel resemble dogs and cattle. | |
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Apocalypse How | |
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Apocalypse How: The Shongairi start off with a plan to only go up to a Class 2 and enslave the survivors but switch to a Class 3a when the invasion's forces are getting chewed up on the ground. The second novel expands on the aftermath, with isolated pockets of survivors all across the world desperately trying to survive, with the winter coming and little food, shelter, or medicine available, while warlords and criminals use the opportunity to establish their own fiefdoms. The largest stable governments are North Carolina, Saskatchewan, and one of the Brazilian states. | |
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Alternative Number System | |
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Alternative Number System: The Shongairi appear to count in base-twelve. | |
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Villainous Breakdown | |
Out of the Dark / int_957e5fc2 | comment |
Villainous Breakdown: Brigade Commander Harshair undergoes one while his entire platoon gets decimated by American M1A2 Abrams in the Afghan desert. Thikair as the novel progresses, especially when humans begin destroying his ground bases. He eventually just decides to Rage Quit regarding the entire invasion and blow up Earth from orbit. Vlad disagrees, and the subsequent scene on the bridge of the alien dreadnought ends with Thikair breaking down into a sobbing wreck. | |
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Post-Scarcity Economy | |
Out of the Dark / int_95cc926d | comment |
Post-Scarcity Economy: Thanks to assemblers (3D printers that work on a molecular level) and unlimited energy, all Hegemony races are this, especially since space travel makes it easy to obtain resources from asteroids and uninhabited planets. Humanity is starting to become this in the second novel 15 years after the invasion, with the assemblers left behind by the Shongairi being wholly owned by the Planetary Union government. The assemblers back the global currency, the Planetary Union dollar. Any PU citizen can get their basic needs satisfied for free, although luxuries still require money, which means people have to work. | |
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Awesome Personnel Carrier | |
Out of the Dark / int_96475bb6 | comment |
Awesome Personnel Carrier: M3A3 Bradleys assist the Abrams tanks in Afghanistan in taking down Shongairi armored columns. | |
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Superweapon Surprise | |
Out of the Dark / int_97f53f5b | comment |
Superweapon Surprise: Humanity has barely left their gravity well, and are facing a species that has FTL capability. Humanity has superior ground weaponry, but there's no way mankind can win, and both sides know it. But no one expected Dracula! | |
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Friendly Neighborhood Vampire | |
Out of the Dark / int_982b6570 | comment |
Friendly Neighborhood Vampire: Vlad is trying to be one of these, but the Shongairi are pushing him. He deliberately makes Stephen a vampire in order to be one of these and his Morality Pet. | |
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"Not So Different" Remark | |
Out of the Dark / int_984ef9ef | comment |
"Not So Different" Remark: Mircea to Stephen in Chapter XXVIII (28). | |
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Immune to Bullets | |
Out of the Dark / int_99db72ee | comment |
Immune to Bullets: Shoot the vampires as much as you like, it won't do anything. | |
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Crippling Overspecialization | |
Out of the Dark / int_9aaf8eca | comment |
Crippling Overspecialization: The Shongairi are prepared for two kinds of combat — kicking the crap out of primitives & space warfare. They are shocked to realize that humanity is far, far more advanced at warfare inside a gravity well; their tech could have done everything we did better, but they just never needed to. | |
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Greater-Scope Villain | |
Out of the Dark / int_9b06e314 | comment |
Greater-Scope Villain: The four Hegemony founder species appear to be this to the Shongairi. | |
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Fridge Logic | |
Out of the Dark / int_9dfd7154 | comment |
Fridge Logic: The aliens think humanity deserves to be mass-murdered and enslaved or just outright exterminated because humans fight each other (even if the fighting was tiny compared to the species size) and the only reason we have militaries to resist theirs is due to our in-fighting. So...what does that say about the aliens since they have militaries, too? | |
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Ambition Is Evil | |
Out of the Dark / int_9e1e14ea | comment |
Ambition Is Evil: The Shongari hope to harvest Earth's scientists and resourses to give them the power to move against the rest of the Hegemony. Averted with Colonel Sanders, who desperately wants to get promoted to general, but only to put a stop to the jokes about his name. | |
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E.T. Gave Us Wi-Fi | |
Out of the Dark / int_9e6221b0 | comment |
E.T. Gave Us Wi-Fi: Discussed. When the Shongairi arrive at modern day Earth, they are confused as to how we have advanced so fast, they speculate that perhaps that one of their recon drones crashed and gave the Humans a head start on the technological game. | |
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Recursive Translation | |
Out of the Dark / int_9e8bf084 | comment |
Recursive Translation: A major plot point of the latter third of Into The Light. The Earth delegation to Sarth uses the term "Councilor" for some of their minor civilian dignitaries, as it has a common equivalent amongst most Sarthian languages thanks to the democratic influence of Dianto, except in Qwernian, where the same word can be translated as "deputy". This leads to the Qwernians completely misunderstanding the Earth delegation's command structure, and who is actually in charge, which causes them to make successive diplomatic blunders. | |
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Devolution Device | |
Out of the Dark / int_9ebff4b2 | comment |
Devolution Device: After discovering the presence of an Iron Age civilization on Tairyon that advanced far too rapidly for Hegemony's tastes (but nowhere near as fast as humans), the Liatu, one of the founder species, deployed a bioweapon that reduced the intelligence of the Tairyonians to barely above animal level, and the vast majority of them died out, unable to support a population that size through hunting and gathering with primitive tools. The Liatu then moved in and settled the planet, treating the natives as "nuisance animals" (which is their actual name for them). | |
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Our Vampires Are Different | |
Out of the Dark / int_9f63d4f1 | comment |
Our Vampires Are Different: Instant intangibility/gaseous form, invulnerability to conventional weapons, undetectable to thermal or night vision, no need to breathe, and no vulnerability to holy items. Although the second book reveals that they're actually robotic beings composed of nanobots. Presumably, when a person is exposed to nanobots by drinking a vampire's "blood", they start to quickly replace their organs and cells with more of themselves until there's nothing of the original biology left. Furthermore, the supposed weakness to the sun is due to their systems being overloaded by light on the ultraviolet spectrum, which they appear to be able to process like photosynthesize in plants, but Dracula found out that he could develop a gradual resistance over years to this weakness, and spends the first book walking in broad daylight like a normal human. | |
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Earth Is a Battlefield | |
Out of the Dark / int_a0543350 | comment |
Earth Is a Battlefield: Earth first has every single military base struck with a kinetic projectile, followed by every single political capital of every nation. And that's just the opening salvo that is the PRELUDE to the invasion. | |
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Nicknaming the Enemy | |
Out of the Dark / int_a0f6ab07 | comment |
Nicknaming the Enemy: English-speakers tend to call the Shongairi "puppies" due to their canine-like appearance. | |
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Genocide Backfire | |
Out of the Dark / int_a1d4e0a8 | comment |
Neural education gives humanity what it needs to commandeer Shongairi capital and construction ships and begin the Genocide Backfire. | |
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Eye Scream | |
Out of the Dark / int_a2b38d3b | comment |
Eye Scream: Squad Commander Gunshail is killed by a .308 Winchester round to the left eye. | |
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Tested on Humans | |
Out of the Dark / int_a2cb509b | comment |
Tested on Humans: The Shongairi attempt to capture humans several times to prepare a bioweapon. | |
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Unfinished, Untested, Used Anyway | |
Out of the Dark / int_a74d419a | comment |
Unfinished, Untested, Used Anyway: When assaulting the Shongairi ships in orbit, Vlad and the other vampires hang on to the outer hull, as they don't need to breathe. However, Vlad didn't know if they'd survive being outside the ionosphere, with the sun's electromagnetic radiation (which feeds vampires) possibly overwhelming them. But it was the only way to stop Thikair from unleashing the bio-weapon. | |
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First Contact | |
Out of the Dark / int_a7caa5b5 | comment |
First Contact: Humanity's first contact with alien life is the Shongairi launching kinetic energy weapons and wiping out half of the world's population, including most major cities, military bases, and naval vessels. Only later do the Shongairi announce themselves to the survivors and demand surrender. A more proper first contact happens in the second book, when the PUNS Outlook reaches Sarth orbiting 61 Cygni A (roughly 11.4 light years from Earth). After a period of covert observation, Dave Dvorak sends out a radio broadcast across the planet announcing humanity's arrival and offering to meet all the world leaders (or their representatives) at a UN-like building the Sarthians call the Nonagon. | |
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Like a Son to Me | |
Out of the Dark / int_a8adc5a0 | comment |
Like a Son to Me: Pieter Ushaklov comes to view Zinaida, the girl he saved from Shongairi mortar fire, as his daughter. | |
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Ruthless Modern Pirates | |
Out of the Dark / int_ab173426 | comment |
Ruthless Modern Pirates: In the second book, the breakaway Conch Republic raids coastlines for any ship or boat that dares to sail. They capture the vessels and either keep them or sell them to warlords in exchange for food and supplies. The re-established US government puts a stop to that. | |
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Sleeper Starship | |
Out of the Dark / int_abb930ed | comment |
Sleeper Starship: Despite the existence of hyperdrives, interstellar travel routinely takes from several decades to centuries (just being several times faster than light isn't much of a speed in galactic terms), requiring cryogenic suspension for the crew. | |
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WolfMen | |
Out of the Dark / int_abf9209f | comment |
Wolf Men: The Shongairi strongly resemble bipedal canines, to the point where several people refer to them with the Fantastic Slur "puppies". | |
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Alas, Poor Villain | |
Out of the Dark / int_ac09dc0f | comment |
Alas, Poor Villain: Ground Base Commander Shairez. She may be responsible for kidnapping humans to develop a plague to wipe us all out, but through most of the book she's shown as an intelligent, curious, hard working, and capable aide who is one of the more likable enemies and often serves to draw out the Admiral's softer side. In the end, she's tortured for info for several hours by someone who knows a thing or two about torture. It's possible to feel some pity for Thikair in the middle of his Villainous Breakdown at the very end when, after already being worn down and speculating he'd be made to commit suicide, he's left facing a Cruel and Unusual Death he's confronted with the fact that His entire command is being wiped out, and that his entire clan, and entire species will likely follow soon as a direct result of his actions. | |
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Easily Thwarted Alien Invasion | |
Out of the Dark / int_ac711709 | comment |
Easily Thwarted Alien Invasion: Subverted. The Shongairi war technology is drastically inferior to Human tech. The real problem is their orbital firepower. | |
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Oh, Crap! | |
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Oh, Crap!: Thikair has one when Ground Base Commander Shairez informs him that Humans have no submission mentality. Dave Dvorak has one when he realizes that a Shongairi patrol will encounter him and his small resistance group during a supply run. | |
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Artificial Gravity | |
Out of the Dark / int_ae69516f | comment |
Artificial Gravity: Inverted. While the Hegemony races possess countergrav generators that allow their vehicles to hover, their starships still use rotating sections to generate pseudogravity. When human engineers get their hands on Shongairi countergrav generator specs, they are surprised to discover governors that prevent the generators from being used to generate positive gravity either by accident or intentionally. | |
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Removing the Head or Destroying the Brain | |
Out of the Dark / int_b1bf5c9b | comment |
Removing the Head or Destroying the Brain: Zigzagged with vampires. While shooting one in the head has no effect (they often demonstrate their invulnerability by shooting themselves in the head), it is possible to kill a vampire, but only Vlad and Ushakov know how. Ushakov kills Cecilia, who's gone off the deep end and started killing indiscriminately, by decapitating her with some kind of special kukri he got from Vlad's mansion. After a moment, her head and body crumble to dust (actually nanobots). | |
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Molotov Cocktail | |
Out of the Dark / int_b4ac1655 | comment |
Molotov Cocktail: Molotovs become standard for resistance fighters, and are easily able to land inside alien vehicles through the infantry firing ports. | |
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Take That! | |
Out of the Dark / int_b53077b3 | comment |
Take That!: The author does not have a high opinion of the F-35 Lightning II as shown during a scene where an F-22 Raptor pilot is criticizing it... while shooting down alien dropships. | |
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Invaded States of America | |
Out of the Dark / int_b6c94487 | comment |
Invaded States of America: Shongairi forces eventually land in America and they get all sorts of hell from the US Military and Partisan fighters. | |
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Self-Insert Fic | |
Out of the Dark / int_b9d11ad6 | comment |
Self-Insert Fic: So what, a main character is named David; it's a common name. And his wife's name is Sharon... and they live in South Carolina... and their dogs are named Nimue and Merlin? Oh, come on, Weber! | |
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You Have GOT to Be Kidding Me! | |
Out of the Dark / int_ba0ff694 | comment |
You Have GOT to Be Kidding Me!: Abu Bakr el-Hiri's reaction to the thought of using a suicide truck bomb. | |
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Slasher Smile | |
Out of the Dark / int_bd4264a3 | comment |
Slasher Smile: When Dracula and other vampires board the Shongairi ships, Thikair is terrified of his smile. | |
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To Serve Man | |
Out of the Dark / int_bd8b2b0b | comment |
To Serve Man: Played with. The Shongairi are carnivores and consider not eating their fallen foes as almost disrespectful to them. This does not endear them to humanity or to any other race, for that matter. | |
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Disaster Scavengers | |
Out of the Dark / int_bdcf86f3 | comment |
Disaster Scavengers: Alluded to and prepared against, but not actually seen. Humanity holds together pretty well rather than turning on each other for the most part. There are some mentions made of characters being attacked by other, desperate scavengers, and a couple of groups of National Guardsmen attempt to become local warlords and meet suitably bad ends. Then again, the plot doesn't last until winter, when people will get desperate, though what may happen then is discussed. | |
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When All You Have Is a Hammer… | |
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When All You Have Is a Hammer…: The Shongairi's trump card is their orbital firepower, which they use in lieu of effective ground forces. Whenever someone resists on the ground, the Shongairi orbital forces bomb them, or the nearest town within three or four miles. They don't seem to get that this is just making things worse. This is reinforced by Shongairi pack-based psychology, which tells them that the best way to force compliance is by bombing targets to demonstrate superiority, but those insane humans just keep on fighting. [[spoiler:Actually invoked in the third novel while explaining what happened on Earth during the first book to the Shongairi emperor. He is told the expression itself and finds it quite useful, filing it away for later].] | |
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Humanity on Trial | |
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Humanity on Trial: Offstage, but it does happen, and we're given the death penalty. | |
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Humans Are Warriors | |
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Humans Are Warriors: This novel has strong, pervasive themes of "HUMANITY, FUCK YEAH!" | |
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Drop Ship | |
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Drop Ship: The first ones sent to Earth were destroyed by USAF F-22 Raptors and a French antiaircraft battery took out three more. They're stated to be the size of missile cruisers but are utterly lacking in anything that would protect them in case of an attack. Even their radar is incapable of picking up human stealth fighters or detecting a missile lock. Apparently, they have antigravity drives, but tend to use the boring old aerodynamic wings, as antigravity is too power-hungry. | |
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Big Blackout | |
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Big Blackout: Averted — for a while. Despite the elimination of major cities, power and internet stay up for a good while before the Shongairi specifically take them out. | |
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Neck Snap | |
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Neck Snap: How Ground Base Commander Shairez is put out of her misery. | |
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Hope Spot | |
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Hope Spot: Senior Squad Commander Laifayr has when when Dave's .50 Cal Barret rifle stops firing since it is out of ammo. | |
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Wooden Stake | |
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Wooden Stake: An SAS soldier-turned-mercenary, who has started working for a Mexican drug cartel, breaks off a chair leg and tries to use it to stab one of the vampires who have just slaughtered his elite unit. He misses and stabs her in the gut. She points out that it should be the heart and demonstrated on herself. She drops to the ground, with the other two vampires gasping. A second later, they all burst into laughter, as the stabbed one gets up. They explain that none of the "traditional" methods of killing vampires work, right before one of them rips out his heart. | |
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Humanity Is Insane | |
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Humanity Is Insane: Humanity is the only race that doesn't have the instinct to surrender permanently when beaten by a superior force, since we're far more individual and family oriented than the pack and herd oriented aliens. Guerrilla warfare, passive resistance, and sabotage are utterly foreign to our would-be conquerors because a Shongairi confronted with an obvious superior will automatically submit; the notion of resisting against the "pack leader" in anything other than an obvious show of force intended to seize control of the pack is considered vile and dishonorable. They will soon learn that humanity isn't likely to accept their surrender when we exterminate them right back. The Hegemony will then learn that we hold those who ordered our extermination as even more guilty than those who attempted to carry it out. | |
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Insane Troll Logic | |
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Insane Troll Logic: How Foreign Minister Myrcal of the Qwernian Empire acts in the last third of Into The Light. Ou is so fixated on victory over the Republic of Dianto that ou regularly makes rookie diplomatic blunders just to gain a perceived advantage. Some select actions include using choice passages from the Earth Ambassador's speech proclaiming that no Sarthian nation will get preferential treatment to suggest the Earth delegation is making a secret deal with Dianto, exposing several key intelligence assets for minimal returns, and plotting to hold human diplomats hostage to force the Earth delegation to submit to their demands based on rather flimsy evidence even ous immediate subordinates are questioning. Unfortunately, ou also manages to maneuver ouself into beoming the second-in-command of the Qwernian Empire, and serves as the primary antagonist of the latter part of the book. | |
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Shout-Out | |
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Shout-Out: David's dogs are named Nimue and Merlin. Also, the second novel's epilogue features a spindle-shaped ship. And the space combat in the third novel might as well have taken place in the Honorverse. | |
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War Refugees | |
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War Refugees: There are many of them in Romania, and the Shongairi aren't afraid to target them either. | |
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We ARE Struggling Together | |
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We ARE Struggling Together: Averted, but it is mentioned that survivors will do what they must to keep themselves and their families from starving. | |
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better | |
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better: Dropping a Meteor of Doom is a cheap way to soften up a future colony. Plus, the Shongairi have effective energy weapons on their heavy assault vehicles, but mostly rely on mediocre conventional firearms. Human firearms and artillery become the stuff of nightmares for them. In the second novel, the humans decide to go with railguns instead of energy weapons, since railguns pack a lot more of a punch and are very good at penetrating armor. For tanks they particularly prefer discarding sabot rounds for better penetration. As for handheld rail weapons, they pretty much pulverize any flesh they encounter and can easily go through three or four people. | |
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Tank Goodness | |
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Tank Goodness: M1A2 Abrams and Romanian T-72 tanks do just fine against the invaders. Shongairi tanks (called GEVs) have powerful lasers for armaments and can easily punch through our armor. | |
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Nuclear Weapons Taboo | |
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Nuclear Weapons Taboo: Enforced thanks to the Shongairi keeping a close eye on our missile silos and nuclear subs. The Shongairi keeping an eye on our nuclear capability means nothing as if they had the power to get rid of it, they would have done so ASAP and if you shoot everything at once, it doesn't matter if they manage to destroy the silos and subs (which they aren't necessarily capable of doing anyway). This doesn't stop the radical factions in India and Pakistan from taking the opportunity to settle old scores by nuking one another after their population centers are wiped out by the Shongairi. In the aftermath, the angry Shongairi proceed to launch another salvo of rocks at the Indian subcontinent, further devastating it. | |
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Nothing Is Scarier | |
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Nothing Is Scarier: The Shongairi, when the vampires attack, find the silence more disturbing than facing the destruction humans can cause in direct combat. | |
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Self-Mutilation Demonstration | |
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Self-Mutilation Demonstration: In the sequel, the vampires demonstrate their nature by either allowing themselves to be shot or shooting themselves in the head. | |
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Next Sunday A.D. | |
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Next Sunday A.D.: We are never given an actual year, but we do get some subtle hints such as America having a female president. | |
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MeteorOfDoom | |
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Dropping a Meteor of Doom is a cheap way to soften up a future colony. Plus, the Shongairi have effective energy weapons on their heavy assault vehicles, but mostly rely on mediocre conventional firearms. Human firearms and artillery become the stuff of nightmares for them. | |
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Roaring Rampage of Revenge | |
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Roaring Rampage of Revenge: The war against the Shongairi becomes this as soon as it is confirmed that we can fight back and that they have landed on Earth. Platoon Commander Rayzhar goes on one when his two little brothers were killed in an ambush. He does not discriminate against military and civilian targets. It's clear at the end of the book that, with the help of captured Shongairi tech, Humanity will exact its revenge on the Hegemony and the Shongairi home worlds. | |
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Cassandra Truth | |
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Cassandra Truth: After driving away the Shongairi, the government of North Carolina sends out a broadcast telling the rest of humanity of what happened, including how it was accomplished. No one believes the latter part, of course. After all, who's going to believe something as ridiculous as vampires? | |
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Mother Russia Makes You Strong | |
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Mother Russia Makes You Strong: Also Mother Afghanistan, Mother Ukraine, Mother Romania, and even Mother North Carolina... Weber really makes an effort to show that he views Earth as a World of Badass. | |
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Break Out the Museum Piece | |
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Break Out the Museum Piece: Weapons stockpiles in Romania contained surplus Soviet weapons dating from as far back as World War II and are used by the resistance forces in the region. | |
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Written by the Winners | |
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Written by the Winners: In the second book, Vlad explains that while some of what he's done before his transformation would indeed be called cruel by modern standards, it was actually no different than what many of his enemies were doing. It's just that most of the stuff about him was written by the Ottomans, who wanted to portray Vlad as a bloodthirsty murderer. | |
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Canada, Eh? | |
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Canada, Eh?: In the second book, Canada is revealed to be one of the nations to suffer least in the Western Hemisphere, alongside the US and Brazil. With Saskatchewan surviving relatively unscathed, it becomes the new seat of government. Canada is the first to accept President Howell's offer of forming the Continental Union. | |
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Hypocrite | |
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Hypocrites: The Hegemony, who consider themselves peaceful enlightened folk and regret allowing the aggressive Shongairi into the fold as required by their laws, decide to sweep humanity under the rug (by literally throwing us to the wolves) rather than having to let us join someday. The Shongairi repeatedly lampshade this in contempt. | |
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The Dreaded Dreadnought | |
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The Dreaded Dreadnought: Shongairi dreadnoughts are powerful warships, capable of bombarding the surface of a planet with projectiles. They're also armed with missiles and lasers, although the latter are mainly used for close-range engagements and to shoot down missiles. Human-designed dreadnoughts in the second novel are significantly larger and more powerful. | |
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The End of the World as We Know It | |
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The End of the World as We Know It: Humanity is so screwed. Until Dracula decides it's the Shongairi's turn. | |
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Benevolent Alien Invasion | |
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Benevolent Alien Invasion: Discussed. Both the hostile Shongairi and the humans fighting them both realize that a benevolent invasion would have been a lot more effective than the regular Alien Invasion that triggered the violent, stubborn human resistance that is turning the aliens' occupation into a bloody slog. | |
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Screw This, I'm Outta Here | |
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Screw This, I'm Outta Here: Thikar decides to scrap the invasion and destroy Earth from orbit. | |
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Brain/Computer Interface | |
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Brain/Computer Interface: In the second book, one of the scientists is obsessed with adapting the Shongairi neural educators into this. He sees multiple benefits to being able to control equipment with but a thought. His bosses eventually transfer to him to other projects, although he tries one last experiment and ends up frying his brain. Which is fine, since he also accidentally uploaded himself into his computer. | |
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Leave No Survivors | |
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Leave No Survivors: When Shongairi soldiers attempt to surrender, Stephen Buchevsky again sees the children they have killed, he is reminded of his own killed daughters and has them all executed. Eventually, the Shongairi just decide to kill all humans from orbit. Dracula ain't going to allow it. In the second book, this is Vlad's intention for all the Shongairi in the galaxy. It takes Stephen decades to convince him to spare some of them. And that's just on their homeworld. Their colonies will be wiped out completely. Vlad's amended plan is to obliterate all their space assets, including off-world colonies in the system, and to bomb them back into the stone age, making sure to destroy any and all industry and about 2/3 of the population. Based on the ending to the second novel and the blurb to the third novel, Dvorak intends to instead turn the Shogairi into allies against the Founders of the Hegemony, although this will still necessitate the obliteration of their planetary defenses to satisfy Shongairi honor code. | |
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Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny | |
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Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny: The book is basically vampires versus aliens. Plus that's just the first part of the trilogy! | |
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Reasonable Authority Figure | |
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Reasonable Authority Figure: Haymar-zik-Shayma, Shathyra and absolute ruler of the Shongair Empire, is actually quite reasonable. When he learns of what Thikair has done to humans, he's horrified by such a blatant violation of Jukaris (their honor code). He also reaslizes that humans are now much more advanced than the Shongairi, and their home fleet can't possibly stand up to the human task force in the system. And yet he knows he can't officially submit to David Dvorak without first sending his warriors into battle as demanded by Jukaris. He laments the necessity of so many having to die when the outcome is already certain. | |
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Just Following Orders | |
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Just Following Orders: On the Shongairi side we have Ground Base Commander Shairez, who is often portrayed as the more likable Shongairi, whose only concern is to just follow her orders and get the job done along with not seem to having a severe hatred for the Humans. | |
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Would Be Rude to Say "Genocide" | |
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Would Be Rude to Say "Genocide": The Galactic Hegemony, being composed of peace-loving enlightened herbivores, absolutely abhors violence. Which is why, if they encounter any upstart species that could potentially upset their delicate balance, they decide to take care of them, whether by granting a more violent junior member the opportunity to expand into that space and crush their potential threat, or by engineering a de-evolutionary virus to collapse their civilization and cause their population to be adjusted to something much more manageable. | |
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Rage Quit | |
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Thikair as the novel progresses, especially when humans begin destroying his ground bases. He eventually just decides to Rage Quit regarding the entire invasion and blow up Earth from orbit. Vlad disagrees, and the subsequent scene on the bridge of the alien dreadnought ends with Thikair breaking down into a sobbing wreck. | |
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Insufficiently Advanced Alien | |
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Insufficiently Advanced Alien: Orbital bombardment is just about the only thing the Shongairi have going for them (though to be fair, Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies is pretty effective). Their ground forces don't have any experience going up against anything more advanced than crossbows, and it really shows in their tactics and equipment. They do eventually start uparmoring their equipment and adjusting their tactics, and their actual heavy and support weapons are quite effective; the humans note that the puppies' mortars in particular are very deadly and have a wide variety of ammunition types. | |
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Space Station | |
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Space Station: The space platform Bastion is built not long after the founding of the Planetary Union in order to house the seat of PU government, as doing it anywhere on Earth's surface would result in accusations of favoritism to a particular member state. The platform is home to the PU Congress, the Terra House (the residency of the president), the Citadel (the PU's version of the Pentagon), and the people who make it all work, so it's grown to a decent-sized city and is constantly in the process of being expanded. There are three massive space stations in orbit over Shongaru. Two of them are defensive battlestations, and the third is a civilian habitat. All use spinning to achieve pseudogravity. The battlestations are destroyed during the space battle, while the habitat is stormed by Space Marines in order to satisfy the honor requirements for the Shongairi to submit to humans. | |
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Mama Bear | |
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Mama Bear and Papa Wolf also get deconstructed when Buchevsky argues that winter will bring the need to defend against good people with starving children. | |
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Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique | |
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Jack Bauer Interrogation Technique: Happens off camera to some captured Shongairi Mooks and Ground Base Commander Shairez. | |
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Bizarre Alien Sexes | |
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Bizarre Alien Sexes: Sarthians have three sexes: male female, and neutro. Male and female impregnate the neutro with their gametes, which merge to form a zygote in the neutro's body. Unlike the largely male-dominated human societies, the child-bearing neutros tend to be higher on the social and political hierarchy of Sarth, probably since they tend to act as peacekeepers between the more aggressive and emotional males and females. Many national leaders are neutros. There is almost no sexual dimorphism between males and females, except for their plumage coloring and patterns, while neutros tend to be a little smaller and also have a unique plumage pattern. Sarthian families also consist of three partners. | |
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One World Order | |
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One World Order: The Shongairi are confused that humanity managed to get to our current level of advancement without becoming this. It's starting to shape up in the sequel, as the governor of North Carolina seeks to unite all the human survivors under a single federal government modeled after the US (bicameral legislature, state-appointed senators, electoral college, etc.) in order to rebuild Earth and prepare for round 2 against the Hegemony in a few decades' time. By year 15 after the invasion, the Planetary Union of Earth consists of most of the nations, including the US, Canada, Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, Spain, both Italies (it split into Padania and Sicily), Portugal, Romania, India, and South Africa. Switzerland is on the fence, trying to lobby for "associated status", although President Howell makes it clear that it's either in or out, no middle ground. Pakistan has become a hotbed of radical Islam and steadfastly refuses to join, as the Planetary Union constitution includes clauses for fundamental human rights, which the Pakistani leaders are vehemently against. Averted with the Sarthians, who are at about the 1930s-1940s level of technology. They still have plenty of nation-states, but the two dominant ones are the Republic of Dianto and the Qwernian Empire. The others tend to be members of one of the two blocs. The humans compare them to Athens and Sparta of Ancient Greece. The Dianteans are a lot more like the humans in terms of their politics and values. They revere the rule of law. They are an island nation with a powerful navy. The Qwernians, meanwhile, have a strong warrior tradition and scoff at laws, preferring custom and tradition over the written word. They have a powerful army and control lots of natural resources, but their navy is lacking. The humans are adamant that they wish for the Sarthians to establish some kind of supranational governing body in order to help distribute the human technology equally. | |
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No Party Given: What party the Premier of Saskatchewan belongs to isn't specified, even though the Leader of the Opposition is identified as belonging to the New Democratic Party. | |
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Karmic Jackpot | |
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Karmic Jackpot: Governor Howell, the Governor of North Carolina who acted as The Mole to the Shongairi and had all National Guardsmen and law enforcement covertly assist the rebel forces in his state. Because of his actions, which saved many lives, he seems to be well on his way to becoming President of the USA and the nation's capitol will be moved to Raleigh. | |
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Morality Pet | |
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Morality Pet: Stephen becomes this for Mircea. | |
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Light Is Not Good | |
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Light Is Not Good: The Galactic Hegemony presents itself as the bastion of galactic civilization, keeping everything orderly and peaceful amidst hostile darkness around them. They do this by forcing all members to stay in a technological stasis, punishing any members who stray away from their precepts with extinction or forced de-evolution, and using the junior members to jockey amongst one another in endless political games lasting millennia and deal with potential threats to the senior members, the Founders. | |
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Determinator | |
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Determinator: Mankind as a whole to the Shongairi; it turns out that while humans do possess a submission mechanism, it is subordinated to our instinct to protect family. It's also pointed out that "family", in this case, can include up to entire countries. Then Dracula extends it to humanity itself, at great cost to the invaders. And, implicitly, the Hegemony and its allies. | |
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Infodump | |
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Infodump: Several chapters are devoted solely to outline politics on Earth or within the Hegemony that led to the current situation. One chapter is mostly devoted to excessively detailing survivalist preparations, and there are some entirely irrelevant infodumps (e.g. the one regarding Iranian politics or several pages devoted to an F-22 pilot bashing the F-35 while in the middle of attacking alien landing ships). | |
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Only a Flesh Wound | |
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Only a Flesh Wound: The concept of shoulder flesh wounds commonly seen in media is deconstructed in Chapter XXXIII (33). | |
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Meaningful Rename | |
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Meaningful Rename: After capturing the Shongairi ships, Vlad renames the flagship Star of Empire to Târgoviște, his former capital city. | |
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The Mole | |
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The Mole: Governor Howell appears to be working with the Shongairi to make everything go smoothly. The puppies never even suspect the truth that he is undermining them at every turn. | |
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Aliens Never Invented the Wheel | |
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Aliens Never Invented the Wheel: Most galactic civilizations tend to be unified under a single government long before they become space-capable, and tend to focus their military development on spacepower once they get to orbit. However, humans are still fractious even at the level of having an orbital satellite network, and though human technology is necessarily cruder than spacefaring alien tech, in areas of ground and atmospheric combat it is necessarily advanced. Other species simply never had the need for things like heavy armored vehicles or fighter aircraft when such things were easily dispatched with Orbital Bombardment. | |
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Blue-and-Orange Morality | |
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Blue-and-Orange Morality: For the Shongairi, refusing to submit to an obvious superior, especially after that superior has demonstrated unquestioned strength, is horrific. They also don't see why humans get pissed when Shongairi eat the corpses of those they killed, including children; to the Shongairi, eating the corpses is the only way to honor them and not let the soul go to waste. Humanity's refusal to back down and fight viciously out of a need to protect their families or to seek vengeance for the deaths of loved ones is utterly alien to the Shongairi. The third book further expands upon the Shongairi's attitudes, revealing that they possess a Code of Honour called Jukaris based on their pack mentality. A conflict with this honor code actually caused the botched invasion of Earth, due to Thikair realizing that, if he openly challenged Earth as the precepts of Jukaris required, humanity would manage to actually beat him on the planet's surface, and he might have to surrender to THEM. As a result, he initiated the orbital bombardment of Earth in a gamble to try and force them to submit without a challenge, and hope no one would ever realize he didn't. In the same book, we also get the Liatu, one of the founding members of the Hegemony, and their own sensibilities, where violence between members of the same species is abhorrent, but pretty much anything leading up to violence, such as "assassinating" a political enemy by stranding them in a desert, or forcibly devolving a native sapient species through a virus, is fair game. They also have a form of communism that, on paper, seems equitable and encourages economic growth while also allowing for everyone to benefit together, but just like human communism, some end up FAR more equal than others. | |
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Artistic License – Geography | |
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Artistic License – Geography: In the second book, people keep referring to Mexico as a South American country. Except one look at a map will place it firmly in North America. Why they simply didn't call it Latin American is anybody's guess. | |
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Casual Danger Dialog | |
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Casual Danger Dialog: An F-22 Raptor pilot takes time to criticize the F-35 while shooting down alien dropships. | |
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The Unmasqued World | |
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The Unmasqued World: Once the vampires come out in to the open, there's no real way to hide their existence. Though many people don't believe the announcements about vampires helping fight off the Shongairi invasion. | |
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Galactic Conqueror | |
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Galactic Conqueror: The Shongairi had already conquered two planets before arriving on Earth. | |
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Oh, My Gods! | |
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Oh, My Gods!: The Shongairi use names such as "Cainharn" and "Dainthar" in this fashion. | |
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Suicide Attack | |
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Suicide Attack: Major Dan Torino and Abu Bakr were going to use a suicide truck bomb to destroy a Shongairi base. Becomes unnecessary when the Shongairi evacuate the planet. | |
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War Is Hell | |
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War Is Hell: Something the Shongairi finally learn after treating it like a safari for so long. | |
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Crazy Survivalist | |
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Crazy Survivalist: It's all justified (Alien Invasion, remember), but the menfolk of the mountain cabin have clear plans to put lots of half-inch holes in anyone who might threaten their little commune. | |
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Accidentally-Correct Writing | |
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Accidentally-Correct Writing: In-Universe example. In the second novel, Vlad explains that the one movie to get close to getting his origins is Dracula Untold. While he doesn't look nearly as attractive as Luke Evans, the real Vlad and his surviving men did happen upon some cave in the mountains, although they did not meet a monster there. They found a chamber filled with light. Then Vlad lost consciousness. When he woke up, he found nothing of his men but their empty clothes, while he himself was transformed. | |
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Stealth in Space | |
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Stealth in Space: As far as the Hegemony knows, there's no way to conceal a ship in space from detection. Dropping out of FTL anywhere close to a star system produces a characteristic energy splash that will definitely be picked up. In the third novel, we find out that humans have upgraded the FTL technology to function a little differently, which means that no energy splash happens when they drop out of phase space. Plus they're able to direct a ship's emissions in a specific direction (such as away from the plane of the ecliptic, where no one is likely to be scanning for them). While it's not perfect, and anyone actually looking will be able to spot occultations of stars and planets. But the Hegemony has become so complacent, they don't bother looking for threats beyond the bare minimum. | |
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Hover Tank | |
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Hover Tank: The Shongairi tanks are able to hover, but this just leaves its unarmored bottom side exposed. Their ground transports are still wheeled, though, as hover tech is expensive. | |
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Alien Invasion | |
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Alien Invasion: The whole plot of the first book. I mean, just look at the summary. | |
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Mix-and-Match Critters | |
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Mix-and-Match Critters: On a previous planet they colonized, the Shongairi's bases were attacked by "cat-apes". | |
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Everything Is Online | |
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Everything Is Online: We youtubed shooting down alien dropships! Fleet Commander Thikair broadcasted to all of Humanity online to announce the invasion. Also one of the primary advantages of humanity, allowing us to coordinate strikes and keep up morale. | |
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Last Stand | |
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Last Stand: All of Humanity is pulling this since they have no way to stop the Shongairi kinetic weapons. Stephen Buchevsky and a small band of rebels pulls one so that the refugee village can evacuate. | |
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The Remnant | |
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The Remnant: The remaining Human military units of the world are still fighting the Shongairi. | |
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Weakened by the Light | |
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Weakened by the Light: Zig-zagged. While vampires do indeed feel pain when exposed to sunlight, it's not because they're dying. It's because their changed bodies are fed by electromagnetic radiation, and sunlight overloads them. Older vampires have learned to control their intake and no longer suffer from it. That said, Vlad wasn't certain that the vampires, especially the new ones, would survive the unshielded trip into space with all the cosmic and solar radiation up there. He didn't tell the others because it wouldn't have a made a difference. | |
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Comically Missing the Point | |
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Comically Missing the Point: It only becomes funny during the Shongairi invasion, but the take-away from the original hegemony survey of Earth counts as this. The Barthoni team took away that humans are barbarians from watching a battle from the hundred years war when they should have learned that, even when faced with seemingly insurmountable odds, humans will try to find creative solutions to problems before giving up. From the way the invasion was conducted, that simply never occurred to anyone even though everyone had access to the same data. | |
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Theme Naming | |
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Theme Naming: Task Force One consists of 19 ships: four Relentless-class superdreadnoughts (all named Relentless in various languages), eight Sword-class heavy cruisers (no names given), three troop transports (all named after company commanders that fought at Harirud River), and four Foundry-class industrial ships (all named Foundry in various languages). | |
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Beauty Is Never Tarnished | |
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Beauty Is Never Tarnished: Averted. By the begining of Chapter XXVII (27), Thikair notes that Ground Base Commander Shairez appears to have "aged" thanks to the ongoing conflict with the Humans. | |
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