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Word of God is stuff that a work's primary creators (such as an author or director) have stated is true about their universe, even if it's not in the actual work. Word of Saint Paul is stuff that the secondary creators (such as major actors in a movie) have said, or what those with close connections to the secondary or primary creators (such as close friends or family members) have said. Word of Dante is stuff that an independent authority, scholar of a work, Fandom VIP, or the creator of an adaptation has said — often with supporting arguments — which is accepted as true by the fanbase even though it has not been confirmed by anyone higher up the chain. It's a kind of ascended Fanon (though not Ascended Fanon proper). A more academic term would be "deuterocanonical material." Why does it matter? Because "everyone knows" the Word of Dante is true of the original work, and so it gets mixed into future adaptations and popular allusions. It can even overrule original canonicity (if that isn't known as much as it's known of) or Word of God. Take our Trope Namer: if it weren't for Dante Alighieri and his Divine Comedy, later writers wouldn't speak of hell having circles with specific Karmic Punishments. Hell is depicted in broad strokes in The Bible: a place of darkness and wailing and gnashing of teeth, a lake of fire — that's really as specific as it gets. That there are specific places in Hell — and exquisitely-tailored punishments — for the unchaste, the literal infidels, and the betrayers is all Dante's idea. Ironically for this trope, although Dante's work is highly influential in Western culture, it should be noted that no branch of Christianity considers The Divine Comedy to be canon at all. Also, Dante didn't even intend for it to be considered as religious canon; it was more about political and social commentary of the time (note how Dante seeks out someone from Florence in every section and subsection of Hell), with a bit of philosophizing about spiritual growth (a theme carried more with the Purgatorio and Paradisio, but nonetheless present in the Inferno). This trope is especially likely to happen if there is no one who can unambiguously provide Word of God. Without Word of God or Word of Saint Paul, Word of Dante is the strongest authority you have on how to interpret the canon. Often created when an Expanded Universe claims to be "official" and thus canonical but is ignored by the primary canon. If there is a Word of God, however, then what Word of Dante does get produced is just as likely as Fanon to be Jossed at some point. Frequently creates Adaptation Displacement. May also help create Misaimed Fandom if the Dante's ideas contradict true canonicity or Word of God. May be the cause of Newer Than They Think, especially if Dante is much younger than the work. Again, it's easier to have Word of Dante if there is no longer anyone to give Word of God. Beam Me Up, Scotty! is a version of this, where the Word of Dante is a phrase. Also related is the Death of the Author, a concept from the field of literary criticism which states that all theories about a work (regardless of their source) can be equally valid, and Staff-Created Fan Work, which sometimes leads to this. See also God Never Said That. When the deuterocanon becomes canon, it's Ascended Fanon. |
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Predators states the events of Predator took place in Guatemala. Though Dutch's team was briefed in Guatemala at the beginning of the movie, Steven E. de Souza included the country Val Verde in shows and movies he has co-written, including Adventure Inc., Commando, Die Hard 2, and Supercarrier, and has stated in interviews that Predator takes place in Val Verde. The Xenopedia wiki goes with de Souza's explanation, calling the explanation in Predators incorrect. | |
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Adrian "Ozymandias" Veidt from Watchmen is often, in fandom, depicted as German, the son of a Nazi officer, and driven to his own well-intentioned extremism out of a keen desire to atone for what he feels is an inherited murderous stain. All of this was invented by Matthew Goode, who played him in the film version — in fact, there are hints that despite his looking like the Nazi party's own invented Aryan ideal, Veidt in the graphic novel very well might be the son of Jews who fled the Nazis. He's presumably named for actor Conrad Veidt, a German socialist who left the country because of how much he hated the Nazis. Before Watchmen makes it explicit that something similar to the latter is what happened, though whether the Veidts were Jewish is never established for certain. Veidt is also commonly believed in Internet circles to have an artificial right hand. This dates back to an Intercontinuity Crossover roleplaying board in 2010, where it happened as a function of the plot specific to that board, and permanently remained the case in that continuity afterwards. What happened was that the board’s wiki was accidentally taken for canon by unwitting fans, most likely due to a high level of hits from the main image link. There are related words of Dante from the same RP, such as a deceased younger sister named Klara, but the Artificial Limbs idea was the stickiest. |
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Megas XLR: The main character is always called Coop, with the nickname coming from his last name of Cooplowski. His first name is never revealed. Online, a persistent rumour exists that his real name is Harold, though no source is known for this. The name likely came from a fanfic writer. | |
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Puella Magi Madoka Magica: It is an absurdly common piece of fanon that Charlotte, aka Nagisa Momoe was a cancer patient. (There is some official material that seemingly contradicts this, but it's actually information about a prototype character, which gives it dubious canonicity.) This would later be comprehensively deconfirmed by the Magia Record mobile game, which expanded on her backstory. | |
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Gone writer Michael Grant never specifically said that Zil Sperry was gay or bi. But judging from his narration chapters, you can see where one would get this idea, so it's basically Fanon. | |
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The TV adaptation of The Green Hornet established Kato as a martial-arts expert and now audiences expect it. | |
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Much The Man from U.N.C.L.E. fanon (THRUSH being formed by the remnants of Moriarty's organisation, Solo being Waverly's designated successor, "the Technological Hierarchy for the Removal of Undesirables and Subjugation of Humanity", the Ultimate Computer, etc.) derives from David McDaniel's entries in the Ace Books series of UNCLE novels. | |
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Ranma ½ has a fandom full of Saint Pauls, due to a group of early authors making a set of stock characterizations for the main cast. Akane is depicted as being terrible at practically any task she attempts, as well as exclusively hitting Ranma with a hammer, not helped by several chapters showing she has Lethal Chef tendencies, her frankly average martial arts skill compared to several high ranking rivals, with her occasionally hitting people with blunt objects. Nabiki is depicted scamming people out of what is implied to be large denominations of currency for practically everything and having a part of any morally ambiguous event, as well as having a permanent setup for selling photographs of Ranma and Akane, even ones she, canonically, couldn't possibly have been involved in. Kasumi, as far as a lot of the fandom is concerned, doesn't exist, only appearing to be the Nice Girl compared to Akane's violence and Nabiki's mercenary tendencies, while whitewashing her own terrible incidents. Shampoo, or Shan Pu, for years was given the name 'Xian Pu', a terrible grasp of Japanese language and a ruthless streak, along with a implied hatred of people getting her name 'wrong'. It's only recently that fans have pointed out it was always Shampoo in the manga. And many more. There's practically no character in the entire Ranma narrative who isn't subject to constant and unintended flanderization since barely any writer is willing to sit down and actually read and/or watch the whole series. |
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In the Dungeons & Dragons (1983) cartoon proper, only first names are used — except for Presto, who is only known by his nickname. An early fanfic by Victoria Bishop, "The Gathering," gives everyone full names, since it's depicting how they all met. The story in full is not part of general fanon, but most of the invented names have been reused. Two naming concepts in particular are widespread: Eric having the last name Montgomery. He must just look it. This concept is so established in fanon that it can easily be mistaken for canonicity. "Presto" being short for Preston. This one is probably because of elegance — making a double meaning, making the nickname a Line-of-Sight Name, and explaining why everyone uses it when names are used in true canonicity. The main reminder that this isn't canonical is there still disagreement on whether Preston is a given name or surname... |
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A hotly-defended idea within fandom for years was that Scotty's line from "Balance of Terror" that "(the Romulans') power is simple impulse", and Kirk's line "meaning we can outrun them", meant that Romulans had still not developed warp technology even in the 23rd Century, despite having fought a war with Earth some hundred years prior. The Star Trek Chronology even used that exact phrasing. When Star Trek: Enterprise showed Romulans as being warp-capable, this was lambasted as a canon violation, despite the fact that when the original line was written, it was not set in stone what "impulse" vs. "warp" even was. The only fact of the episode was that the Enterprise was the faster ship, not that the Romulans had no warp at all. | |
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Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead is often taken as canonical for Hamlet, even if incorporating a postmodern look at the nature of theatre into a straightforward if rich story about revenge makes no sense. (It helps that Tom Stoppard is careful about making sure when in Hamlet the various events of his own play happen.) Even people who can't consider the events canonical "know" that they must be either allowed for or explicitly ruled out, which gives Rosencrantz and Guildenstern importance they would not otherwise have. The film of Hamlet with Laurence Olivier cut out the pair entirely because they were minor characters with little effect on the main plot — which is why Tom Stoppard wrote his play in the first place. In modern versions, even ones that don't consider Stoppard canonical, this is all but unthinkable. (The Mel Gibson version shows their execution, for instance.) | |
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The afterword of Quest for Fire's 2020 English edition has a fun section identifying the various tribes in the story with real hominid species known from the fossil record: The Oulhamr with Homo neandertalensis, the Kzamm with Homo antecessor, the Wah with Homo sapiens, the Red dwarves with Homo luzonensis, the Blue-haired men with Gigantopithecus blacki and the Men of the trees with Pierolapithecus catalaunicus. with the obvious exception of Homo sapiens and Homo neandertalensis, none of these species would have been known to the author in 1911 but it is fun to interpret the story and setting through the lens of modern paleontology. | |
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People who found Mega Man (Classic) through Bob and George are often confused by the fan-character "Ran," usually asking which game he came from. A lot of this has to do with the fact that, for a while, Ran's creator let just about anyone who asked use the character, meaning he showed up everywhere. This (and the very large sprite-sheet leading to him having as many or more poses as game characters) led people to believe so ubiquitous a character must have come from the games. If Ran himself is asked, he will often answer that he is from RockBoard*full title: Wily & Right's RockBoard: That's Paradise (Wily & Right no RockBoard: That's Paradise), an obscure Japanese only Mega Man-themed NES board game video game. |
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In Dark Souls, the identity of Lord Gwyn's firstborn son is kept ambiguous, with only a few vague hints given that he even exists. However, certain high-profile members of the Dark Souls fanbase like EpicNameBro have suggested (based on some very valid in-game clues) that it is Solaire, a theory which has become so popular among the Dark Souls community that many fans accept it as canonical despite From Software's silence on the matter. This may have even been Jossed with the release of Dark Souls III, however, which features a character (definitely not Solaire) whom the game hints to be Gwyn's firstborn about as heavily as it can without actually coming out and saying it. | |
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Most of the Shin Megami Tensei fans are absolutely convinced that Hijiri, the reporter from Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne is actually the reincarnation of Aleph. This belief comes from both vague in-game hints saying that Hijiri is being "punished", and the physical resemblance between the two characters. So far, Atlus has not denied this or produced any evidence to defy it. | |
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King Richard III: While the eponymous king appears to have suffered from scoliosis (a curved spine possibly responsible for creating the "hunchback" he's historically been distinguished with), he was not as severely and grotesquely deformed as Shakespeare suggested. Informed opinion is evenly divided as to whether Richard was responsible for the deaths of the Princes in the Tower. Even if the princes were murdered by a member of Richard's faction, that person may well have been acting alone instead of on his orders. The Duke of Somerset, killed by Richard in Shakespeare's play, died when Richard was three years old. Richard is widely believed to have ordered the extrajudicial execution of his own supporter Lord Hastings (who may have opposed his decision to depose Edward V) and of the Woodville supporters who had been escorting the prince. However, this accusation was recorded in the Croyland Chronicle by a former chancellor of Richard's who may have been currying favor with Henry Tudor. Other sources put Hastings' arrest on the 13th of June (the day of the council chamber meeting) and his execution, after a trial, on the 20th. He had legal justification for doing so, as the Woodvilles were trying to circumvent Edward IV’s will naming Richard Lord Protector. All of this is addressed, in a well-written and fun-to-read story, in Josephine Tey's The Daughter of Time. (But don't necessarily take her word for it, either.) |
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Total Drama Comeback gets a good deal of this for Total Drama, especially concerning Ezekiel. Ezekiel's popularity in the fandom appears to owe more to Comeback's reinterpretation of him than to anything he did on the actual show. | |
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Linkara's Theory as to the cause of Power Rangers suits sparking upon being struck (essentially a Power Surge) has been adopted as canonical by the franchise's fandom. | |
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Naruto has a minor case of this over Haku's gender, due to both their short time in the series, only two volumes, and the translation having a statement translated as 'I'm a boy', with the only other support being a supposed Word of God statement by Kishimoto, which has never been found, and several fans to this day believe Haku was lying with the statement. | |
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The Cthulhu Mythos; The Mythos includes various authors contemporaneous with and following after H. P. Lovecraft whose stories are considered canonical. Some works written previous to the original Mythos are also considered canonically part of it, like some of the works of Ambrose Bierce and The King in Yellow. It's worth noting that Lovecraft himself actively encouraged other authors to play around in his universe. The Necronomicon being able to resurrect the dead as zombies comes from Evil Dead 2 rather than any of the Cthulhu Mythos stories. |
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8-Bit Theater has led to many people assuming characterizations and personalities in the comic are canonical to the Final Fantasy games. That White Mage is a girl (though many people already assumed this long before 8-Bit Theater existed), to the chagrin of male White Mage cosplayers everywhere. Or that Black Mages in general are psychopathic murderers, which is hinted at in Captain SNES: The Game Masta, even though no appearances of playable Black Mages in the rest of the series have portrayed them as anything even close (worst would probably be Palom, who was a little bit rude, but definitely not evil). And no, despite his ears, Thief is not an elf. In the original Final Fantasy, the White Wizard was either a male or a Bifauxnen, with the latter being more widely believed. However, since most healers in the series since have tended to be female, and 8-Bit Theater had White Mage as a female, most fans assume the original NES White Mage is also a female. The developers seem to have gone with this, since in the remakes the White Mage's higher-resolution sprites are female or otherwise androgynous, and the games that suggest names for the party members pick mostly female names for the White Mage. In addition, Square Enix developed Mario Hoops 3-on-3 and Mario Sports Mix, in which White Mage is a playable character and is undeniably female.◊ |
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Due to a translation error by a vocal lore theorist for the series, fans of Guilty Gear often assume Johnny's last name to be "Sfondi." This is not the case; he's never referred to by anything more than his given name. | |
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Some fans assume that Ash's birthday is May 22nd. The reason for this is due to a combination of the novelizations written by Takeshi Shudō, which state that Ash began his journey when he was exactly ten years, ten months and ten days of age, and that trainers start their journeys on April following their tenth birthday. The novels don't give an exact date at any point, but the anime began airing on April 1st, 1997, which most fans take as the reference date for Ash beginning his journey, and doing the math with the above data it gives May 22nd. However, none of this is referenced in the anime itself, and given for how many decades Ash has remained at 10 years of age, it seems unlikely that it'll be. | |
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When old Bill was alive, it's uncertain if he ever officially sanctioned any publication of his works. Printed versions from the time vary wildly in quality: the first quarto edition of Hamlet is widely considered to be a garbled bootlegnote Here's the first few lines of the play's most famous speech, as printed in Q1: "To be, or not to be, I there's the point, / To Die, to sleepe, is that all? I all: / No, to sleepe, to dreame, I mary there it goes, / For in that dreame of death, when wee awake, / And borne before an euerlasting Iudge, / From whence no passenger euer retur'nd, / The vndiscouered country, at whose sight / The happy smile, and the accursed damn'd." whereas the second quarto is much more coherent. The Word of Saint Paul version of his plays is the First Folio, a collection put together in 1623 by some actor pals in The King's Men. By the 1800s, editors had begun to assemble their own editions by cutting and pasting together what they regarded as probably the most authentic bits from the good quartos and the Folio, and this is still done with most editions for school or professional use (e.g. the Penguin edition) — these are the Word of Dante versions. Basically, scholars have been in an echo chamber for two centuries, debating what can be considered "authentic" Shakespeare. Today, some editions of Hamlet and King Lear include different versions of the play, leaving it entirely up to readers to decide their own version to use.note The extent to which early Shakespeare editions differ textually from each other can be overstated: there are only "bad quarto" versions of four plays, and of the 36 plays in the First Folio, 18 had never been printed before: The Other Wiki has a full list here. | |
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"They can't be a Mii costume in the same entry" was similarly debunked in the same game they debuted in, when Meta Knight's Mii helmet was revealed before the character himself was. The closest this is to being "true" is that the downloadable Mii Costumes for anticipated fighters tend to serve as consolation prizes, but even then, Sakurai admitted that he was still considering Rex as a fighter even after he had already received a bundled costume for Fighters Pass 1. He only ditched the idea when the three fighters concept he wanted to use proved too hard to implement, settling on Pyra and Mythra by themselves. | |
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Due to quite a few unofficial manhwa and fan projects, many fans of The King of Fighters often believe that the first name of Goenitz, the Final Boss of KOF '96, is Leopold. For all SNK have said, however, Goenitz so far has Only One Name. | |
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A subsection of Shantae fans tend to assert that the titular half-genie is "canonically" 16 years of age, pointing to a tweet the series' official Twitter account posted in 2015 in response to a fan inquiry on the topic. However, when pressed about the tweet, series designer James Montagna stated that it was posted by an intern without approval, that Shantae as a character was never designed with the intention of portraying her as a minor, and that they never intended to do anything with Shantae's fanservicey elements that would make them or other people uncomfortable. | |
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Harry Potter: The films instilled the idea that Hogwarts has free dress when the students aren't in class, that Ravenclaw house has a raven mascot and their secondary colour is white or silver (in the books, Ravenclaw's symbolic animal is an eagle, and their colours are blue and bronze), and that the students wear modern school uniforms under their robes (in the book, the robes are the pull-over-the-head type). Students also wear pointed hats all day, not just at feasts. The movies also got fans to believe Beauxbatons is an all-girls school and that Durmstrang is an all-boys school, when both are co-ed. | |
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A common belief has been that the Ice Warriors of Mars have a ruling caste of Ice Lords. However, according to Doctor Who Magazine #489's "Fact of Fiction" article on "The Monster of Peladon", while the Ice Warriors do have an aristocracy, the term 'Ice Lords' is never used in the TV series. Though at least three Ice Warriors in the show have been tagged as Ice Lords by fandom - Slaar in "The Seeds of Death", Izlyr in "The Curse of Peladon", and Azaxyr in "The Monster of Peladon", all three wearing more streamlined and less crocodilian armour - only Izlyr is actually nobility, the other two being military officers. The term 'Ice Lords' apparently came from DWM themselves, back when they were Doctor Who Weekly, and quickly passed into fan consciousness. | |
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Circa 2007 edits to its Wikipedia article, most have taken to calling the CarnEvil main characters Jacob and Lisa respectively. This is despite the fact that no official sources gave the protagonist a name, and there being no indication at all that the player had a fellow gun-toting companion in the first place. | |
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Fear & Hunger: Termina: Levi's surname is unmentioned in game and by Word of God, leading a parodic edit to its Fandom wikia coming up with "Jořdán" to make a Punny Name about the Levi's clothing brand and Air Jordan sneakers. It circulated quickly, and a sizable portion of the fanbase uses and tags "Levi Jořdán" as the character's full name. | |
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Cracked also brought visibility to filmmaker/critic Rob Ager's evidence that HAL in 2001: A Space Odyssey was designed to be a criticism of the company IBM. | |
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Mashiro from The Pet Girl of Sakurasou is usually taken by Western viewers as autistic. However, this was never mentioned in the original; just that the descriptions about her follow textbook definitions of autism so closely that they just can't give any other explanation. | |
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In Another Note: There is no explicit mention (or even hint) of Beyond Birthday consuming blood and/or flesh from any of his victims. Yet most fans depict him as a cannibal. Nor is there any mention or implication of him raping any of them. Though the idea of him being a rapist is at least more plausible, because he proudly describes himself as "an aggressive top". Most fanart portrays him as splattered in blood and/or wearing a black shirt. Though canonically, he wears a white shirt (to match L), and he is meticulous about cleaning up after his grisly murders. This is most likely done to distinguish him from L, especially in fanarts where they appear together. |
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An inversion in Discworld: In discussions of canonicity, some fans will discount the diaries, cookbook, railway guide and sometimes even the maps, on the assumption they were mostly or entirely written by the co-writers and had Terry Pratchett's name slapped on them for marketing reasons. According to Sir Terry and the co-writers, this was very much not the case. If a book credits him as the main writer, he was. | |
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Inuyasha: Inuyasha, being a rather old Long Runner at this point, has built up quite a lot of fanon, with some of it managing to fit this trope more so than most, thanks to being either hosted on popular anime information sites and/or accidentally inspired by/derived in part from quirks of the popular Viz Media English translations of the series, particularly the dub of the anime. Chief among the issues is that since English doesn't use honorifics or politeness levels the way Japanese does, and the translations were made when anime was still "localized" quite a bit more for American audiences, they had to find creative ways to convey the especially-rude or especially-respectful ways that some characters spoke to each other with...and in some cases work around the lack of a known name or gender for a character. Issues that this helped cause include: The assumption that Inuyasha curses a lot because his crude dialect and habit of not using honorifics in the original Japanese was rendered in English as "rough" speech with added cursing. Bonus points for fans assuming he likes to call Kagome a "bitch" because a rude form of "you" was translated as "you bitch" in a handful of early chapters. Incorrect names circulating for some characters; of particular note here, Kagome's canonically unnamed mother got named "Kun-Loon" (which doesn't even look Japanese) by some random editor on "Absolute Anime", leading to a Word of Dante situation where people assumed it was correct because it was on an informative-looking website. Confusion over Kagome's cat's sex (canonically it's unspecified), particularly notable since it resulted in fans assuming a calico cat was male, which as noted in that link is highly unlikely, but results from the English translation sticking a male pronoun where a pronoun happened to be required in English. |
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"Characters need to appear in more than a single game" was disproven as early as Ness in the first game, with later additions like the Ice Climbers, Sheik, Lucas, Duck Hunt, and almost every Fire Emblem character. | |
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Homestuck has a large body of Dante-isms, since canonicity is often no more than "ambiguous trolling statement from Andrew Hussie two years ago on an inactive Formspring" and the fandom is especially active and prolific. Ask just about any fan what the currency of the Alternian Empire is and they'll answer "caegars." The only caegar we see on screen is only used for coinflips, and their use as currency is implied only once (when Karkat described Vriska as a "run of the mill little psycho girl, a troll caegar a dozen"). Caegars as the official imperial currency has been widespread in Fanon since Nepeta Quest 2011 featured the titular character using them to pay for a map. The troll deity is widely assumed to be "Gog," thanks to trolls referencing "Gog" and "Jegus" in conversations with the kids. The fantroll community has pointed out that the canon uses of the term "Gog" are intentional references to a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff misspelling. In other instances, the trolls say "oh my god" instead. Due to limited true canonicity on the workings of troll society, the fantroll community has a lot of accepted fanon that the "Stop Having Fun" Guys see it as their responsibility to defend against Canon Defilement by non-conforming fantrolls. Among these: That trolls see themselves as a Master Race and wipe out any species they conquer (canonicity never states why or how they invade planets). That trolls are drafted offworld when they reach 10 sweeps (canonicity never specifies the exact age at which this happens). And that they are visited by the Imperial Drone at the same time and then never again (also never specified in canonicity, which, in fact, seems to imply that mandatory pailing comes around on a regular basis). Hussie intentionally left the human characters' race and ethnicity unspecified, stating only that the sibling pairs should have similar genetics. (He did accidentally let slip a reference to Bro as a "white guy", but when this was pointed out he temporarily turned it into a blob of gibberish, suggesting that this may be Canon Discontinuity.) However, generally accepted fanon was that all the kids were white but John and Jade had black hair while Rose and Dave had blond hair. Depictions of Dave with red hair used to be much more common until he was revealed to be Rose's ectosibling. As the fandom evolved so did these interpretations. For a while it was accepted that Jade and Jake were simply slightly darker skinned than everyone else. In the later stages of the fandom, an interpretation of Dirk as white, Roxy as black, Jane as asian and Jake as ambiguously brown became popular. The fan base speculated and theorized at length about the Class of Aspect titles assigned to player characters. A generally-accepted pseudo-canon has accumulated to explain their mythological significance, connections to personality and characterization, and implications for future plot developments. Calliope's lecture to Roxy on the nuances of the class system (passive vs. active, gender-specific, and master classes) may actually be taken as a reference to and parody of the class/aspect Word of Dante, since the narration and some of Hussie's Tumblr statements imply that she's overgeneralized based on a limited sample size. Gamzee is to this day widely considered to be under mind control of Lil Cal, since Gamzee stared into the puppet's eyes around the time he became violent. However, the one character confirmed to be possessed by Lil Cal (Jack Noir) undergoes a much more obvious possession by ripping his own eyeballs and replacing it with the Lil Cal's, while leaving behind the puppet's empty vessel. |
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Fans will occasionally invent names for forms and techniques to fill in gaps left behind in official information. One such example: fans tend to refer to the base forms of Kamen Rider Blade's Riders as "Ace Form", following the show's playing card theme (especially since the Mid-Season Upgrade and Super Mode are named Jack and King Form, respectively). However, Japanese sources actually use the term "Normal Form" (通常形態, Tsuujou Keitai), which is the name given to any Rider whose primary form doesn't have its own distinct name, like Ryuki, Faiz, and Hibiki. | |
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Land of Oz has very loose canon even going by L. Frank Baum's books. Over the decades, various non-canon or dubiously canon things have made their way into the general consensus: In The Marvelous Land of Oz, the protagonist Tip is revealed to be Princess Ozma put under a spell as an infant and Raised as the Opposite Gender. Despite protesting before changing back to Ozma, Ozma herself has no issue with the change and is never boyish afterwards. Derivative works, published fan works, and adaptations often either make Ozma into a Tomboy Princess or show Ozma being uncomfortable with the change in the period between the second and third books. Lurline is the fairy who created Oz. Over the years, Lurline has been upgraded from a fairy queen into a goddess. This appears in several derivative works such as The Wicked Years. The two most commonly accepted designs for Dorothy are W.W. Denslow's brunette 5-to-7-year-old-looking Dorothy and John R. Neil's blonde 9-to-12-year-old-looking Dorothy. Both appear in derivative works, with Denslow's design being more popular due to it matching the more well-known MGM film. In canon, Dorothy's hair colour isn't noted. Ozma's hair is also described as reddish blonde but she's almost always depicted as a brunette in (even the original) illustrations and adaptations. Speaking of the movie - what kind of magical footwear does Dorothy obtain in the book? No, not ruby slippers, that's from the movie. In the book they were silver shoes. Another thing that can be blamed on the movie is the idea that the Wicked Witch of the West has green skin. As for the name "Elphaba", that's from Wicked. |
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Metal Slug: A good portion of characters, enemies, and vehicles made after Metal Slug 3 either lacked names, did not have a localized name, or the name was hidden in Japanese print media, so international fans made up names based on their appearance or behavior. Prior to Metal Slug Defense and Metal Slug Attack finally adding most of the units' official names, many used the fan names as reference including the officially licensed Metal Slug: The Ultimate History artbook. The most infamous of these is "Achilles", an unused support prisoner in Metal Slug 5. He has no name, so the game randomly gives him one whenever he's rescued. The originator of the fan name, Ragey of the fan site Metal Slug: Missing in Action, was the first to discover the unused POW and give him the name Achilles because that's what the game showed up. Since most fans nowadays use the name, the website would be updated to make it very clear that he has no name. |
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Chuggaaconroy is well-known for his Let's Play videos being incredibly well-researched, with several months of planning often going into each series, which means that the rare occasions that he screws up end up becoming this: The Ōkami fandom is quite pissed at the idea that Yami's different forms represent mankind's destructive nature. This wouldn't be too much of a problem if it wasn't a theory by Chugga that dozens of people accepted as canonical. The ÅŒkami Wiki even once had a notice on Yami's page warning that anyone who tries to post any theories about what his forms represent will be banned, and that "just because Chuggaaconroy mentioned the definitions of Yami's forms does not make him a reliable source." Chugga later explained when he updated the series years later that he got the theory from a YouTube comment on ÅŒkami's OST, added it to his list of things to research later but it accidentally got mixed up with his list of confirmed information and so ended up in the video, and he deeply regrets it. Chugga also posed the theory that Wes, the protagonist of Pokémon Colosseum, was originally planned to be the villain of Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. There is so far no Word of God to back this up, but many fans still take it as being true because Chuggaaconroy is otherwise trustworthy when it comes to Pokémon knowledge. Chugga also got into this with the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 fandom over the ending of the game. One of the last shots in the ending cutscene is a close-up of a character's mouth, with their lips moving but no audio or subtitles to indicate what's being said. Chugga added a card giving a specific line of dialogue (based on Dummied Out text for that scene) to that character. While he went to great lengths to justify putting in that line, many saw it as detracting from the intended Ambiguous Ending. |
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Undertale: Everyone in the fandom seems to be working on the assumption that the six human SOULs were children like the Human Child and Chara, even though there's no evidence of this in game at all. Similarly, everyone assumes that the Mystery Man and W.D. Gaster are one and the same, despite a complete lack of direct evidence — but to be fair, it's the best guess anyone has. The closest thing to official acknowledgement is the use of the Mystery Man on Gaster's card in Fangamer's tarot card set for the game, but even then, these are based on licensed-out fan art rather than being specially commissioned. The theory that Chara is the game's narrator has never been explicitly confirmed, but the idea is so widespread and has been explored by so many fan work creators that it's almost universally considered canon. |
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Soul Eater: The Funimation dub uses male pronouns to refer to the character Crona, leading many who watched the anime to believe that Crona is officially male. At the same time, an early online fan translation of a Soul Eater chapter refers to Crona as Medusa's "daughter" causing many of those who read the manga to believe that Crona is officially a girl. Unfortunately, neither is right. Crona, in both the original anime and manga, is referred to using genderless pronouns and as Medusa's "child". Funimation had to settle with male pronouns by default, and the translation in the manga is wrong. Many fans have decided to just call Crona with "they" pronouns. It's commonly thought that the name of Maka's unseen mother is "Kami" because one translation group mistook part of the Japanese word for "wife" which her ex-husband Spirit used in reference to her, for her name. In actuality, her name is never given. |
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A common sentiment on The Owl House's subreddit is that any comic by MoringMark — that is, any comic that isn't explicitly an Alternate Universe Fic or a Crack Fic — is considered canon unless contridicted by the show itself. Most of this includes characterizations for side characters like Boscha or Masha, or character moments that fit in between existing episodes, but some of this extends to predictions about Season 3 before the actual episodes air. | |
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For almost 20 years, the Goosebumps fandom universally accepted that "Karru Marri Odonna Loma Molonu Karrano" translates to "You and I are one now" in English, despite this never being established by any book, TV episode, game, Word of God or any official source whatsoever until 2015 (and that was just a promotional booklet released for the film adaptation). The closest was a line spoken by Slappy in the TV adaptation of "Night of the Living Dummy II": "You read the magic words. Karru Marri Odonna Loma Molonu Karrano. You and I are one now. You are my slave..." In context, it seems highly unlikely he was translating the incantation in that scene, but the idea stuck. | |
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A related example to the Halo/Marathon one above comes into play. The show has never officially been stated to take place in the Halo universe; while a number of things do hint at it, a lot of other things imply otherwise (or at least imply things took place in a different order from in Halo). Still, many theories revolve around how things work in the Halo universe. Interestingly enough, considering the above discussion on Halo and Marathon AIs, an episode of Season 10 implies that the Marathon concept of AI development actually does hold true in the RvB universe. | |
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In the best-known version of "Rapunzel", the old witch learns that Rapunzel has been visited in her tower when Rapunzel foolishly asks her, "Mother Gothel, why are you so much harder to pull up than my prince?" In the first printing of the Grimms' story collection, Rapunzel's question is, "Mother Gothel, why have my dresses grown so tight around the waist?" | |
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The most longeval example may be the original popularized explanation for why we see two main phenotypes of Klingons; non-bumpy forehead (the ones from TOS) and bumpy forehead (starting with Star Trek: The Motion Picture). Until Star Trek: Enterprise, this discrepancy has never been addressed because no one could think of a reason that made more sense than Gene Roddenberry's explanation that they were always meant to look more elaborate than they did in TOS. However much that makes sense, it has historically been consistently made clear that what we see onscreen is not far from how the characters see things in universenote At least it was this way prior to 2009. FASA and Amarillo Design Bureau, the respective creators of the Star Trek Role Playing Game and Star Fleet Battles, have both use the same theme in addressing the different Klingon Types. It is with these two works that we first heard the bumpy headed Klingons referred to as "Imperial Klingons", a term that would stick into wider use. This term, by itself suggests that the Klingon Empire is composed of a master race along with subject races, much like the Soviet Union (of which the Klingon Empire was originally an allegory) was composed of several Slavic and Eurasian states centered around Russia as the capitol. Therefore, the smooth forehead Klingons are simply members of humanoid subject races, some of them possibly having some Klingon blood due to miscegenation within the Empirenote This would be similar to how the Mongolians conquered their enemies. By having some of the women of the conquered people bear the children of their conquerors. For many fans, this was a reasonably good in universe explanation and deemed superior to the contrived, comic-book science explanation in Enterprise that lays the blame on a stolen supervirus weapon that transforms Klingons into looking more human. | |
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In The Marvelous Land of Oz, the protagonist Tip is revealed to be Princess Ozma put under a spell as an infant and Raised as the Opposite Gender. Despite protesting before changing back to Ozma, Ozma herself has no issue with the change and is never boyish afterwards. Derivative works, published fan works, and adaptations often either make Ozma into a Tomboy Princess or show Ozma being uncomfortable with the change in the period between the second and third books. | |
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Lurline is the fairy who created Oz. Over the years, Lurline has been upgraded from a fairy queen into a goddess. This appears in several derivative works such as The Wicked Years. | |
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In no surviving notes on "Romeo and Juliet" are there any references to a balcony — the word didn't exist in English until decades later. Act II Scene ii, the infamous Balcony Scene, is largely a product of a later play that copied some of the same dialogue — Thomas Otway's "The History and Fall of Caius Marius". It does, however, appear in most movie versions, and Otway borrowed some of the same dialogue that appeared first in "Romeo and Juliet," so it's understandable that the two would get crossed. | |
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Tolkien never explicitly stated that Elves in The Lord of the Rings and related works had pointy ears — in fact, no special physical traits are given except that they seem to be more slender, more elegant, and taller than men (thus implying that they might, apart from that, look more or less alike). In his letters, he shows the assumption that such an appearance was obvious (since English "elfs" have always been described as such), and explains how the Sindarin word for "ear" originates from their word for "leaf". It's also widely accepted in Tolkien fandom that Smaug was the last dragon. In fact, this is never stated anywhere in the books, and indeed some of Gandalf's dialogue with Frodo implies that there are still dragons out there — Smaug was merely the greatest of his age. | |
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The troll deity is widely assumed to be "Gog," thanks to trolls referencing "Gog" and "Jegus" in conversations with the kids. The fantroll community has pointed out that the canon uses of the term "Gog" are intentional references to a Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff misspelling. In other instances, the trolls say "oh my god" instead. | |
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Star Trek: Fans referred to an unnamed, silhouetted character in Star Trek: Enterprise as "Future Guy" and, let's just say, the name caught on with the writers. There are quite a few Trek examples, leading to cases where newer Trek — particularly Star Trek: Enterprise — was accused by many of being "inaccurate". Many aspects of fanon were confused with canonicity. Whether Enterprise did or did not deviate from established canonicity (and keeping in mind Trek has never been 100% consistent anyway, simply by virtue of how big it is), many of the more frequent claims were in fact based on widely-accepted but non-canonical fan assumptions. Among the biggest Word Of Dante was the whole "Spock was the first Vulcan in Starfleet" idea. Another is the "2218 Klingon First Contact". Neither was canonical but were widely accepted along Word Of Dante principles for years. In these two aspects at least, Enterprise didn't deviate from canonicity. Among the biggest Word of Dantes, used in authorized but noncanonical reference books and the Expanded Universe, was that many of the major races such as Klingons and Romulans come from the rarely-mentioned-in-canonicity Beta Quadrant. More specifically: The Federation is mostly located in the Alpha Quadrant, but has a few worlds in Beta. The Solar system in particular defines the boundary between the two quadrants like a galactic Greenwich. The Romulan and Klingon empires are mostly located in the Beta Quadrant, but spill over into Alpha The Cardassian Union, Ferenginar, and Bajor are in the Alpha Quadrant A hotly-defended idea within fandom for years was that Scotty's line from "Balance of Terror" that "(the Romulans') power is simple impulse", and Kirk's line "meaning we can outrun them", meant that Romulans had still not developed warp technology even in the 23rd Century, despite having fought a war with Earth some hundred years prior. The Star Trek Chronology even used that exact phrasing. When Star Trek: Enterprise showed Romulans as being warp-capable, this was lambasted as a canon violation, despite the fact that when the original line was written, it was not set in stone what "impulse" vs. "warp" even was. The only fact of the episode was that the Enterprise was the faster ship, not that the Romulans had no warp at all. Starship combat in Trek video games almost universally assumes that phasers and disruptors work best against shields, and photon torpedoes work best against the hull. This is never stated in any episode or film, however. It's driven almost entirely by the fact that carving a hole in the enemy's shield coverage and then maneuvering a torpedo into the unprotected arc makes for more compelling gameplay than simply standing still and blasting directly at each other. In the shows and films, they never fire torpedoes unless the enemy shields are down. The most longeval example may be the original popularized explanation for why we see two main phenotypes of Klingons; non-bumpy forehead (the ones from TOS) and bumpy forehead (starting with Star Trek: The Motion Picture). Until Star Trek: Enterprise, this discrepancy has never been addressed because no one could think of a reason that made more sense than Gene Roddenberry's explanation that they were always meant to look more elaborate than they did in TOS. However much that makes sense, it has historically been consistently made clear that what we see onscreen is not far from how the characters see things in universenote At least it was this way prior to 2009. FASA and Amarillo Design Bureau, the respective creators of the Star Trek Role Playing Game and Star Fleet Battles, have both use the same theme in addressing the different Klingon Types. It is with these two works that we first heard the bumpy headed Klingons referred to as "Imperial Klingons", a term that would stick into wider use. This term, by itself suggests that the Klingon Empire is composed of a master race along with subject races, much like the Soviet Union (of which the Klingon Empire was originally an allegory) was composed of several Slavic and Eurasian states centered around Russia as the capitol. Therefore, the smooth forehead Klingons are simply members of humanoid subject races, some of them possibly having some Klingon blood due to miscegenation within the Empirenote This would be similar to how the Mongolians conquered their enemies. By having some of the women of the conquered people bear the children of their conquerors. For many fans, this was a reasonably good in universe explanation and deemed superior to the contrived, comic-book science explanation in Enterprise that lays the blame on a stolen supervirus weapon that transforms Klingons into looking more human. |
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Kamen Rider: Fans will occasionally invent names for forms and techniques to fill in gaps left behind in official information. One such example: fans tend to refer to the base forms of Kamen Rider Blade's Riders as "Ace Form", following the show's playing card theme (especially since the Mid-Season Upgrade and Super Mode are named Jack and King Form, respectively). However, Japanese sources actually use the term "Normal Form" (通常形態, Tsuujou Keitai), which is the name given to any Rider whose primary form doesn't have its own distinct name, like Ryuki, Faiz, and Hibiki. Another example is how many Western Rider fans have adopted the term "Neo-Heisei" to refer to the post-Kamen Rider Decade era of the franchise. Japanese Wikipedia uses the terms "First Era" and "Second Era", which are occasionally used by Western fans (usually those who despise the phrase "Neo-Heisei"), though most don't even bother splitting the Heisei Era up in the first place. |
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Super Mario Bros.: Any prominent Magikoopa in the Mario series is assumed to be Kamek. It doesn't help that Kamek is Magikoopa's Japanese name. The same issue happens with Toads that have red spots on their hats being assumed to be the Toad, and green Yoshis being the Yoshi. Rosalina being a princess isn't canonical, despite her wearing a crown; however, fans overwhelmingly consider her one. No game has her listed as "Princess Rosalina", but Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina are considered the princess Power Trio. It doesn't help that early promotional material for Super Mario Galaxy did portray Rosalina as a princess before it became Canon Discontinuity by the time of the game's release. Some non-canon media accidentally refers to her as "Princess Rosalina", which helps the misconception. Daisy and Peach are frequently depicted as cousins in fan works; officially, however, they are just best friends. This concept comes from a Prima Strategy Guide mentioning them being cousins. Those who grew up in the 1990s might remember a 1993 character guide published by Nintendo's American branch, that "confirms" that Yoshi's full name is T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas. Said character guide was not published by Nintendo's Japanese branch, was written by somebody unaffiliated with Nintendo, and its whimsical sense of humor throughout indicates it is not meant to be taken seriously. However, some fans didn't understand the guide's tongue-in-cheek nature and took "T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas" as canonical, much to the exasperation of fans who understood it was a joke. |
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Chugga also posed the theory that Wes, the protagonist of Pokémon Colosseum, was originally planned to be the villain of Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. There is so far no Word of God to back this up, but many fans still take it as being true because Chuggaaconroy is otherwise trustworthy when it comes to Pokémon knowledge. | |
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A good portion of characters, enemies, and vehicles made after Metal Slug 3 either lacked names, did not have a localized name, or the name was hidden in Japanese print media, so international fans made up names based on their appearance or behavior. Prior to Metal Slug Defense and Metal Slug Attack finally adding most of the units' official names, many used the fan names as reference including the officially licensed Metal Slug: The Ultimate History artbook. | |
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The second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's 8th Symphony allegedly originated as a canon honoring Johann Nepomuk Maelzel for his invention of the metronome. This canon (WoO 162) is now considered non-canonical, merely one of Anton Schindler's more elaborate fabrications about Beethoven's life. Or in more simple terms, Schindler's "canonical" canon about Beethoven's canon ISN'T canonical. | |
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For Final Fantasy VI, a fan art or cosplay of the exact same character will differ so vastly from one interpretation to the next... but then, a world populated by small pixelated figures tends to leave a lot to the imagination. Especially when the same game also occasionally features Amano's Darker and Edgier fairy-tale gothic designs of the same characters. | |
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Not mentioned explicitly as the Vong, but Palpatine's agent in Outbound Flight tells Thrawn that the Emperor is trying to unite the galaxy in an attempt to stand against an (at the time unnamed) enemy from beyond the Galactic Rim. This is what first convinces Thrawn to side with the Emperor, as he had encountered an unknown extra-galactic enemy before. Kreia in Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords makes a similar comment about Revan, but that later turned out to be the True Sith, members of the order that fled into solitude sometime around or before the Great Hyperspace War. | |
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While most people, of course, know that the magical and supernatural parts of Macbeth aren't real, they generally take for granted his characterisation as a power-hungry tyrant, and assume he murdered his predecessor Duncan because that's what is portrayed in Shakespeare's play. In fact, before the play was written Macbeth was generally considered to have been a good King. Duncan was killed by Macbeth's men but in a battle, not a planned murder. The whole thing may well have been Stuart propaganda, since James I claimed descent from Banquo and Fleance. Gargoyles was more truth to history! | |
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Before it was publicly debunked by the creator, LOCAL58's alien invasion theory was so popular that this very wiki's article on the series was written with that in mind. | |
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The Director's Cut films of Death Note are not canonical, and not generally regarded as such... except for the funeral scene (and, more controversially, the scenes in the shinigami realm). | |
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Chugga also got into this with the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 fandom over the ending of the game. One of the last shots in the ending cutscene is a close-up of a character's mouth, with their lips moving but no audio or subtitles to indicate what's being said. Chugga added a card giving a specific line of dialogue (based on Dummied Out text for that scene) to that character. While he went to great lengths to justify putting in that line, many saw it as detracting from the intended Ambiguous Ending. | |
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Reno's backstory is never mentioned anywhere in the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII. Yet most fanfiction has him depicted as a former Street Urchin who later became a government assassin. This probably originated by someone attempting to use Rule of Drama to make for a Darker and Edgier story or a Hurt/Comfort Fic. And since this character had a past that was (at best) sketchy, everyone just went along with it, not only because it provided the Angst for whatever Ur-Example fanfiction that was/might have been, but because it somehow became one of those things that "everybody knows." Thus it is still a popular motif for many a fanfic that involves Reno. | |
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Red vs. Blue: A related example to the Halo/Marathon one above comes into play. The show has never officially been stated to take place in the Halo universe; while a number of things do hint at it, a lot of other things imply otherwise (or at least imply things took place in a different order from in Halo). Still, many theories revolve around how things work in the Halo universe. Interestingly enough, considering the above discussion on Halo and Marathon AIs, an episode of Season 10 implies that the Marathon concept of AI development actually does hold true in the RvB universe. Another RvB example is how Fandom VIP Luke McKay did a well-known series of what the various characters look like underneath their helmets. Since McKay both eventually did official (albeit not related to RvB) art for RT, and some of the RT guys expressed appreciation of the designs, the fandom latched into the designs as "canonical". Which has led to the revelation of some of the characters turning out to not canonically look like McKay's designs (notably, South looking completely different, Wash being blond rather than brunet, and Maine being bald instead of ginger) causing some grumpiness in the fandom. However, Wyoming actually looks pretty close to McKay's design. Fans were also fairly annoyed when Allison/Tex was shown to be blonde and not a redhead as McKay had drawn. |
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Room 237 is a documentary profiling many of the theories posited by critics and obsessive internet fans about Kubrick's The Shining. Some of these theories have proliferated elsewhere. For example, Cracked included the theory that the film is a metaphor for American Indian oppression in an article, presenting the theory as definitively true. | |
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Before Perrault got hold of the "Sleeping Beauty", the prince found her asleep in the forest and raped her without waking her. It was only one of their children sucking the splinter from her finger that finally woke her. Whereupon the prince went home to his wife… | |
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The Elder Scrolls: The series has this in the form of "Obscure Texts", supplementary items written by the series' developers and former developers. They're essentially treated as canonical by most of the fanbase (or at least the equivalent of the series' famous in-universe Unreliable Canon), but Bethesda has no official stance either way. Most prolific is former developer Michael Kirkbride, who still does some freelance work for the series. Most of what he writes about are the more obscure aspects of universe's cosmology which don't get expanded on in the games, as well as lore figures the games never touch upon or that Bethesda is simply finished with (like Vivec). However, since some of them either might be subsequently quoted or used as a mythopoeic basis for the games, the line between Word of God and Word of Dante is blurred concerning his writings. As of Skyrim, some of the concepts in his works have been officially referenced in-game (the idea of "kalpas," Ysgramor and his 500 companions, and some of the motivations of the Thalmor), moving them to Canon Immigrant status. Among the fandom, there's the notion that Sheogorath is the only person in the Shivering Isles allowed to grow a beard, which is generally agreed upon to the point where it was stated on the wiki. The evidence for this one comes from the fact that Sheogorath has a beard and that if the player goes to the place Sheogorath teleports you to when you try to attack him, where he drops criminals from multiple feet in the sky, there's a body with a note saying that the man was executed for having a beard. However, the note doesn't specify anything other than that he had a beard — for all we know, the crime could be that it was longer than Sheogorath's, not that it was there in the first place. This being Sheogorath, he might just have made up a random baseless excuse to kill the guy. |
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One Piece has the Databooks, which are published to give supplementary material not crucial to the main storyline, but that many fans would probably like to know. Just how true they are, however, is up for debate as of April 2014, when something very important that was stated to be false in a Databook was confirmed as true in the main storyline: Sabo is alive. | |
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Matthew Patrick of Game Theory is one of the most prolific and notorious Word of Dante spreaders about video games, films, and TV shows, usually using evidence from real life equivalents or interpretations of the subject's lore to prove his point. He is also one of the more criticized examples due to the Fan Dumb spreading his theories as canonical everywhere, sometimes even engaging Flame Wars against people who disagree with him. To somewhat prevent this, Matt now set up polls at the end of most of his Wild Mass Guessing videos, asking the audience if it agrees with him. | |
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Hetalia: Axis Powers fandom has tons of these, partly because of Real Life being something of an alternative source material, partly because the webcomic is scattered between the site, the author's blog and — in some cases — only on fansites because strips were removed or lost from the main site. There's also the scanlations with often questionable quality translations, although they have been easier to find as of late. You can find several examples in the Fanon page. Examples include: Scotland's design. A fan artist drew an interpretation of Scotland and it's caught on to the point of being assumed canon. |
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Final Fantasy: For Final Fantasy VI, a fan art or cosplay of the exact same character will differ so vastly from one interpretation to the next... but then, a world populated by small pixelated figures tends to leave a lot to the imagination. Especially when the same game also occasionally features Amano's Darker and Edgier fairy-tale gothic designs of the same characters. Reno's backstory is never mentioned anywhere in the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII. Yet most fanfiction has him depicted as a former Street Urchin who later became a government assassin. This probably originated by someone attempting to use Rule of Drama to make for a Darker and Edgier story or a Hurt/Comfort Fic. And since this character had a past that was (at best) sketchy, everyone just went along with it, not only because it provided the Angst for whatever Ur-Example fanfiction that was/might have been, but because it somehow became one of those things that "everybody knows." Thus it is still a popular motif for many a fanfic that involves Reno. |
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"Not being well-known by the general public" is another intriguing one, as while fighters have been dismissed in early installments over a lack of international recognition, Sakurai would go on record in "Mr. Sakurai Presents "Terry Bogard" as saying that "whether or not the character is fun to play as is more important than whether the character is new or old, or whether the character is recognizable to everyone." | |
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Fairy Tail: An early mistranslation of Yajima's name ended up calling him "Shitou" instead. Since subsequent chapters call him "Yajima", many fans were led to believe his full name was actually "Shitou Yajima", to the point where the character was briefly credited as "Shitou" in the English dub of the anime. People outside of Japan have pegged Lucy's birth date as July 1 due to promotional text written by the editor-in-chief at Weekly Shonen Magazine with absolutely zero input from Mashima, who never revealed any of the characters' birthdays. This led to Mashima tweeting his confusion when foreign fans suddenly started wishing Lucy a happy birthday, and later reinforcing that Lucy's official birth date (at least in Japan) remains unknown. |
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Numerous background characters in SpongeBob SquarePants are often referred to by fans with given names, like "Fred" (brown fish with trousers) or "Harold" (blue fish with white shirt). However according to the production crew none of the background characters are meant to be named and internally are simply referred to by their code on the model sheet. Though in the case of Fred, his name actually became canonized thanks to his memetic status as the "my leg!" guy eventually leading to him getting his own A Day in the Limelight episode. | |
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"Not having moveset potential" is an interesting one, as while Sakurai has rejected characters before because he couldn't think of a moveset for them at the time, he would also go on to add such characters in later entries once he did think of one (Villager being a prime example). He has also said that when it came to Nintendo's suggestions for DLC characters in Ultimate, lack of gameplay ideas wasn't a reason for dismissing any. And that's without getting into the fact that just because a fan can't think of a moveset doesn't mean Sakurai and his team can't think of one. | |
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Warhammer 40,000: It is widely accepted that the Orks consider purple the 'sneaky' colour. This is based on two supporting factors. First, Orks already have a series of superstitions involving the effects of colour, and their gestalt psychic powers make these superstitions a reality. note In brief: Red Ones Go Faster, Green is Da Best, Yellow is for More Dakka, Blue is lucky, and Black is Dead 'Ard. Second, Orks often copy the tactics and features of other armies without comprehending the purpose of said features, notably by using garish colours for camouflage without understanding that the point of camouflage is to blend in with the terrain you expect to be fighting in. Thus, combining the two led to a running gag that Orks consider purple the sneakiest colour because "'Ave you ever seen a purple Ork?" | |
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"Presto" being short for Preston. This one is probably because of elegance — making a double meaning, making the nickname a Line-of-Sight Name, and explaining why everyone uses it when names are used in true canonicity. The main reminder that this isn't canonical is there still disagreement on whether Preston is a given name or surname... | |
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Not to mention the "Spirits" part fanrule never made much sense to begin with, since Smash 4 had Trophies of Mewtwo and Lucas (essentially the Smash 4 equivalent of Spirits), only to add them as DLC later anyway. | |
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Fullmetal Alchemist: The fangame Fullmetal Alchemist: Bluebird's Illusion was a source of something like this among some Fullmetal Alchemist fans back when Pride hadn't been introduced. There were quite a lot of fanworks based on the game. | |
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Splatoon: DJ Octavio mind-controls all the soldiers in the Octarian military with his sick DJ beats, with the Calamari Inkantation serving as a cure of sorts that frees them from control. Except, no. Despite claims that the developers have confirmed this theory in interviews, no such confirmation has ever happened beyond the series composer stating he wanted the Turquoise October songs to give off the feeling of being brainwashed, to match how ridiculously diligent Octarians are to following orders. The Octarian Army is driven by generations of built-up resentment from being forced underground after the Great Turf War and a desire to live on the surface once again, with Octarian society as a whole being militaristic in nature, as noted both in Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion and Splatoon 3: Side Order. Octavio's beats are purely meant as motivational, the goggles that Octoling soldiers wear are combat aids rather than the hypnoshades that were forced on Callie in the second game, and while the Calamari Inkantation is indeed Magic Music, it is of the inspirational variety. It is widely assumed that Pearl and Marina became Agents 5 and 6 of the New Squidbeak Splatoon following the events of Octo Expansion, with countless fanworks depicting them as such. The developers would explicitly debunk this in an interview, stating that they were just heroic bystanders; while supplemental material and future entries do go on to show that they befriended the other members, they never officially join the group. |
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A poignant final line in his first (and, for over a year, only) appearance led a fair chunk of the Welcome to Night Vale fandom to conclude that Scoutmaster Earl Harlan either had or wanted to have a romantic relationship with narrator Cecil Palmer. This, in turn, led to quite a fracas when Earl returned voiced by Wil Wheaton, due to Wheaton being straight (the creators had previously made a point of re-casting another role so that a gay Latino character would be played by a gay Latino actor.) Shortly after, Wheaton offered up Word of Saint Paul stating that the two were only good friends, proving the original romantic assumption to be this. | |
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In Sonic X, the name of Cosmo's species was never revealed; not even in the English dub, which named several of them and their homeworld. As such, fans latched on to the name Seedrian, which become so widespread that many don't even realize it's a Fan Nickname. | |
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Herobrine is a character from a Minecraft creepypasta. Many people now think he's a real character, either Notch's dead brother or a dead miner. It eventually became Ascended Fanon by constantly appearing in official release notes as a Running Gag. Herobrine has now been "removed" several times from the gamenote Often used to reference the removal of coding for the Human, aka Monster, mob, which was never actually used in the game, then later played straight as a gag, and another bugfix stated that "all ghost entities under the command of Lord Herobrine" had been removed. | |
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In the original Final Fantasy, the White Wizard was either a male or a Bifauxnen, with the latter being more widely believed. However, since most healers in the series since have tended to be female, and 8-Bit Theater had White Mage as a female, most fans assume the original NES White Mage is also a female. The developers seem to have gone with this, since in the remakes the White Mage's higher-resolution sprites are female or otherwise androgynous, and the games that suggest names for the party members pick mostly female names for the White Mage. In addition, Square Enix developed Mario Hoops 3-on-3 and Mario Sports Mix, in which White Mage is a playable character and is undeniably female.◊ | |
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Doctor Who: A Fandom VIP named Jean-Marc Lofficier wrote some reference books in the eighties and nineties, which had quasi-official status through being published by Target, who also did the Doctor Who Novelisations. Although the real-world information about the series was mostly reliable, much of the Universe Concordance material included consisted of extremely speculative extrapolations from canonicity or pure fanfic, without any disclaimer being put in. It's still possible to find older Who fans quoting some of this stuff as canonical. A common belief has been that the Ice Warriors of Mars have a ruling caste of Ice Lords. However, according to Doctor Who Magazine #489's "Fact of Fiction" article on "The Monster of Peladon", while the Ice Warriors do have an aristocracy, the term 'Ice Lords' is never used in the TV series. Though at least three Ice Warriors in the show have been tagged as Ice Lords by fandom - Slaar in "The Seeds of Death", Izlyr in "The Curse of Peladon", and Azaxyr in "The Monster of Peladon", all three wearing more streamlined and less crocodilian armour - only Izlyr is actually nobility, the other two being military officers. The term 'Ice Lords' apparently came from DWM themselves, back when they were Doctor Who Weekly, and quickly passed into fan consciousness. The drive during the eighties and nineties to desexualise the Doctor, despite the fact he was canonically a grandparent, is more properly Word of God or Word of Saint Paul, given that some of the TV series' writers were putting out non-televised stories to support it (with '80s producer John Nathan-Turner being particularly committed to not showing his sexual side). The whole thing was largely blown away anyway by the Doctor's romances in the TV Movie and especially the new series. |
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Hunter × Hunter: Kurapika, the Sole Survivor of the Kurta clan, has never used his clan name like a surname in canon, and official sources give his full name as simply "Kurapika". However, several fans insist that "Kurta" is his surname, so much that "Kurapika Kurta" often shows up in Google results for search terms such as "hunter x hunter characters", and even on this very wiki. | |
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Dragon Ball: Quite a few Dragon Ball fans (including some on this wiki) believe that the name of Lunch's blond gun-crazy alter ego is "Kushami". The name was coined by an American translator in the mid-1990s in order to distinguish between "Good Lunch" and "Bad Lunch", using the Japanese word for "sneeze." There are also quite a few fans who think that Dr. Gero hates Goku for killing his son (upon whom Android #16 is modeled); in reality, Akira Toriyama said that Gero's son was shot dead by an enemy soldier and Gero just hates Goku for destroying the Red Ribbon Army. The confusion seems to persist in part because Dragon Ball Z Abridged did pin the son's death on Goku (with a very memorable piece of original animation), and partly because the creators of Abridged reference obscure but canon pieces of Dragon Ball lore all the time.note Most prominently making reference to Android #17's desire to be a park ranger, which was revealed in the same interview as the information about Gero's son, and which would be confirmed when #17 returned in Dragon Ball Super. |
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Within the F-Zero fandom, a large number of accepted facts about the lore of F-Zero X, such as Captain Falcon's real name being Douglas Jay Falcon, The Skull's real name being Sterling LaVaughn (his actual name is Arbin Gordon), Mighty Gazelle's name being Clint and his fiancee rejecting him after he became a cyborg, and Jody Summer having a deceased father named Mason Summer, originated from a fan-made Angelfire site created sometime between the releases of F-Zero X and F-Zero GX. | |
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The Ōkami fandom is quite pissed at the idea that Yami's different forms represent mankind's destructive nature. This wouldn't be too much of a problem if it wasn't a theory by Chugga that dozens of people accepted as canonical. The ÅŒkami Wiki even once had a notice on Yami's page warning that anyone who tries to post any theories about what his forms represent will be banned, and that "just because Chuggaaconroy mentioned the definitions of Yami's forms does not make him a reliable source." Chugga later explained when he updated the series years later that he got the theory from a YouTube comment on ÅŒkami's OST, added it to his list of things to research later but it accidentally got mixed up with his list of confirmed information and so ended up in the video, and he deeply regrets it. | |
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Pokémon: The Series: Nowhere is Misty canonically referred to as "Misty Waterflower", but you'll rarely see her surname given as anything else. "Waterflower" comes from the dub title of Episode 7: "The Water Flowers of Cerulean City". This is a metaphor for her sisters due to their Floral Theme Naming, but they are not called this in canonicity either; the term used for said sisters as a group is "The Sensational Sisters". Several other characters are given last names in fanfics as well, but this is the only case with supposed in-show "evidence". The whole need for a last name in the first place came from the dub giving Ash a last name in order to avoid Lip Lock.note If Satoshi has a last name in the original, it was never given. Some fans assume that Ash's birthday is May 22nd. The reason for this is due to a combination of the novelizations written by Takeshi Shudō, which state that Ash began his journey when he was exactly ten years, ten months and ten days of age, and that trainers start their journeys on April following their tenth birthday. The novels don't give an exact date at any point, but the anime began airing on April 1st, 1997, which most fans take as the reference date for Ash beginning his journey, and doing the math with the above data it gives May 22nd. However, none of this is referenced in the anime itself, and given for how many decades Ash has remained at 10 years of age, it seems unlikely that it'll be. |
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This trope itself is the method in which Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Appleseed and Real Drive are all established to take place in the same universe, though certain parts of each history have to be disregarded to accommodate the others. Appleseed has a technical manual that details the history of Earth that leads up to the current world the series takes place in. It establishes that the Cold War came to a peaceful resolution in 1986 which resulted in one third of the United States becoming the Russo-American Alliance,note the 13 Colonial states, Indiana, Ohio, California, Oregon, Alaska, & Hawaii that World War III broke out in 1996, and in 1997 a giant meteor struck Beijing, China. As a result of the war and the meteor, the upper hemisphere of the planet has been severely damaged, with new lakes and seas formed and scattered all over. A map of this world can be seen at the end of 2nd Gig despite there being no mention of these events. Kenji Kamiyama took this foundation and added upon it in Stand Alone Complex, establishing that the 2nd American Civil War in 2016 resulted in the remaining two-thirds of the US being split again, with one-third of the states becoming Imperial Americana aka the American Empire. The country was split up by each of the states themselves, resulting in Imperial Americana now occupying the greatest land mass of the United States.note everything east of New Mexico and Colorado, and everything south of South Dakota, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio, and the 13 Colonial states. They also have Washington D.C. itself The United States Of America was reduced to the Rocky Mountain states and the border states along Canada. The series also establishes that World War IV begins in 2019 and that Japan has developed technology to lay the foundation for the existence of the Bioroids that appear in Appleseed. Real Drive is an interesting example in this equation. Originally, it was going to take place in the Stand Alone Complex universe, but the director decided he would rather just make it its own universe instead, since it is mostly a Slice of Life series. However, Real Drive uses the exact same technologies established in Stand Alone Complex: cyberbrains, full prosthetic bodies, Operator androids, and a type of nanotechnology that was developed from the "Radiation Scrubber Nanotechnology" — which itself was the project that a prominent character in Stand Alone Complex was the director overseeing the development process. All of this technology is visually presented to look just like it does in Stand Alone Complex, which makes the similarities too close to simply accept that the director said that it takes place in its own universe. |
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Another thing that can be blamed on the movie is the idea that the Wicked Witch of the West has green skin. As for the name "Elphaba", that's from Wicked. | |
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Touhou Hisoutensoku ~ Choudokyuu Ginyoru no Nazo o Oe, the third fighting game in the series (numbered 12.3) had no official English title, a first for the series. For a few months after its release (and intermittently afterwards) the game was referred to as Unthinkable Natural Law, after a loose translation of its Japanese title. | |
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In the Warrior Cats fandom, there was a superfan called Su Susann who claimed her headcanons (of which a few were thought to be absurd by the fandom) to have been confirmed to be canon by Vicky Holmes, who was (at the time) one of the authors of the series. Vicky later refuted these claims and stated that while she was grateful for Su being such an active contributor on the Warrior Cats Wiki and liked that she was sharing her headcanons and Original Characters, none of Su’s headcanons and OCs were canon. This revelation, along with Vicky leaving the Warrior Cats team of authors sometime after, caused the admins of the wiki to send out an apology and get to work on removing Su’s headcanons and OCs from the site. | |
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The Chronicles of Narnia: This series is among the few fantasy epics that doesn't have any Doorstoppers among its volumes because C. S. Lewis, while not neglecting Character Development and worldbuilding, didn't take it as seriously as either Tolkien or modern Young Adult fantasy writers. As a result, the live-action films from the 2000s have more of such activity than the books do. The Prince Caspian film deviates enough from the book that the film continuity is considered an Alternate Continuity from the books, but even Fan Fic writers who explicitly reject film continuity may unconsciously accept film characterization for the Pevensies. There is subtle Values Dissonance between the two. When there was just one film, the fandom started to accept the film's version of life for the Pevensies before going to Professor Kirke's place, since C. S. Lewis didn't consider it relevant. Technically, it wasn't, but modern fans enjoy that sort of thing. Thus the Pevensies come from Finchley since it's nice to narrow it down from "England". World War II in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is simply there to get the Pevensies where they need to go. The live-action film pushed what was implied to the foreground, reminding people that you can't ignore that war if you are in the warzone. Fanfic post-film reflects this and is likely to include Mr. Pevensie at war rather than at university (which The Voyage of the Dawn Treader implied). The second film similarly reminded writers that the war had not stopped during the intervening year. Lots of people think Caspian/Susan is canonical when actually they barely talk to each other in the Prince Caspian book, and he has more interactions with Lucy than he ever does with her older sister. This idea almost entirely comes from the movie. |
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Ask someone what Gregor Samsa turns into in The Metamorphosis, and it's likely they'll say cockroach, as depicted in various book covers, posters, etc. Actually the novel never specifies what he turns into, only referring to his new form as a "monstrous vermin". | |
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A popular fan theory for Fire Emblem: Three Houses proposed by a Reddit user states that the Flame Emperor's bandit attack at the beginning of the game was intended to scare off the Monastery's professor candidate and instill Jeritza in his place, giving Edelgard someone on the inside. This is never confirmed in-game: all Kostas has to say on the matter was that he was "told to kill as many noble pipsqueaks as possible." Despite this, the theory is often assumed canon by fans. | |
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Homestar Runner: On its fansite, the Homestar Runner Fanstuff Wiki, many aspects of the 20X6 characters added in the more popular fan works seem to be thought of as canonical by many of the wiki's members, such as Stlunko not using contractions (only appearing in the game Stinkoman 20X6, Stlunko only had one line in the manual which had no place for a contraction in it), the most major example being 1-up's obsession with pudding, whereas in the canon pudding appeared in a single toon, and 1-up said "I want pudding" once. It also influenced the creators, giving names to the minor characters (the Visor Robot, for example) among other things. | |
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"They can't be an Assist Trophy or Spirit in the same entry" is the most lauded fanrule. While the first part of this admittedly holds strong, the second half of this was debunked in the same entry that Spirits were introduced, by way of Min Min and Pyra and Mythra being DLC characters in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Not to mention the "Spirits" part fanrule never made much sense to begin with, since Smash 4 had Trophies of Mewtwo and Lucas (essentially the Smash 4 equivalent of Spirits), only to add them as DLC later anyway. |
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In Elfen Lied, Number Three (The Silpelit who infected Kurama, causing Mariko to be born a Diclonius) is often given the name Sanban by fans, even though that is simply the Number Three's Japanese translation, unlike Number Seven Nana, which is both a name and number. Further, a listing that only says it is from an official site states that Three is Nana's older sister. Nothing said in the manga or anime supports this. | |
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Mega Man: People who found Mega Man (Classic) through Bob and George are often confused by the fan-character "Ran," usually asking which game he came from. A lot of this has to do with the fact that, for a while, Ran's creator let just about anyone who asked use the character, meaning he showed up everywhere. This (and the very large sprite-sheet leading to him having as many or more poses as game characters) led people to believe so ubiquitous a character must have come from the games. If Ran himself is asked, he will often answer that he is from RockBoard*full title: Wily & Right's RockBoard: That's Paradise (Wily & Right no RockBoard: That's Paradise), an obscure Japanese only Mega Man-themed NES board game video game. Thanks to the thousands of loose threads the franchise has, newer/more casual fans swear on their life that Zero killed off the Classic characters before being sealed again for a hundred years. There were certainly hints in that direction, but Word of God is that it never happened — and anyway, who could have sealed Zero if the whole cast was dead? Bob and George bears some responsibility for this one too, as Zero is supposed to kill everybody in its storyline, and its author even made a few parts of a multi-part Flash movie depicting Zero's rampage; the term the comic used for this event, the Cataclysm, is now universal. |
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MSF High suffers from this at times. Since the Question and Answer threads are sometimes answered by people other than Wraith, they run the risk of being Word Of Dante. Also, a lot of people use elements that haven't fully been fleshed out, which can lead to embarrassments in the forum roleplay. Such as thinking Legion have green blood. | |
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The Terrible Dogfish from The Adventures of Pinocchio is a shark. The popular misconception as a whale parallels that from the story of Jonah (see "Mythology and Religion" below), but this time we can blame Disney. | |
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Michael Demcio gave Chip and Dale the last names of "Maplewood" and "Oakmont", respectively, in his 1996 Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers Fan Fic Rhyme and Reason. Ever since, these names have been established as fanon. | |
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Friday Night Funkin': Despite the trend of Only One Name amongst the characters, it is near-unanimously agreed upon in fandom that Girlfriend's family has the surname "Dearest" (or "Mearest"), with her additionally having a "real" name that rhymes with her parents'. The game that Senpai comes from is never named in-game, but is often assumed to be Hating Simulator, the title of the Week he debuts in. |
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Inception shows the agents to have Reality Warper powers within a dream allowing them to alter it as they see fit. Many fans have since adopted the belief that this altering is what's allowing them to use the various action movie tropes, like the Pin-Pulling Teeth or the Bloodless Carnage. This would make the use of almost any trope justified by the narrative, at least in the scenes that take place inside a dream. (And as for the rest...) | |
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Another example is how many Western Rider fans have adopted the term "Neo-Heisei" to refer to the post-Kamen Rider Decade era of the franchise. Japanese Wikipedia uses the terms "First Era" and "Second Era", which are occasionally used by Western fans (usually those who despise the phrase "Neo-Heisei"), though most don't even bother splitting the Heisei Era up in the first place. | |
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The speculation about what characters will join the Super Smash Bros. roster for any given installment is usually guided by an understanding that there are a certain set of rules denoting what characters "can't" or "won't" be added to the games. The problem is that there's only one official rule according to series creator Masahiro Sakurai: video game characters only (so no Goku, Shrek or Spider-Man). Everything else is just patterns that fans have locked onto and continue to perpetuate, despite many being proven false. These include: "Characters need to appear in more than a single game" was disproven as early as Ness in the first game, with later additions like the Ice Climbers, Sheik, Lucas, Duck Hunt, and almost every Fire Emblem character. "They can't be an Assist Trophy or Spirit in the same entry" is the most lauded fanrule. While the first part of this admittedly holds strong, the second half of this was debunked in the same entry that Spirits were introduced, by way of Min Min and Pyra and Mythra being DLC characters in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. Not to mention the "Spirits" part fanrule never made much sense to begin with, since Smash 4 had Trophies of Mewtwo and Lucas (essentially the Smash 4 equivalent of Spirits), only to add them as DLC later anyway. "They can't be a Mii costume in the same entry" was similarly debunked in the same game they debuted in, when Meta Knight's Mii helmet was revealed before the character himself was. The closest this is to being "true" is that the downloadable Mii Costumes for anticipated fighters tend to serve as consolation prizes, but even then, Sakurai admitted that he was still considering Rex as a fighter even after he had already received a bundled costume for Fighters Pass 1. He only ditched the idea when the three fighters concept he wanted to use proved too hard to implement, settling on Pyra and Mythra by themselves. "Not having moveset potential" is an interesting one, as while Sakurai has rejected characters before because he couldn't think of a moveset for them at the time, he would also go on to add such characters in later entries once he did think of one (Villager being a prime example). He has also said that when it came to Nintendo's suggestions for DLC characters in Ultimate, lack of gameplay ideas wasn't a reason for dismissing any. And that's without getting into the fact that just because a fan can't think of a moveset doesn't mean Sakurai and his team can't think of one. "Not being well-known by the general public" is another intriguing one, as while fighters have been dismissed in early installments over a lack of international recognition, Sakurai would go on record in "Mr. Sakurai Presents "Terry Bogard" as saying that "whether or not the character is fun to play as is more important than whether the character is new or old, or whether the character is recognizable to everyone." "Not being from a Japanese game developer" has a basis in most of the Fighter Roster consisting of characters from Japanese-made games, but the Twycross-based Rare got two reps from their Donkey Kong Country series as well as Banjo & Kazooie, Swedish video game developer Mojang got Minecraft represented with Steve, Alex, Zombie and Enderman, Samus got an Echo Fighter in Dark Samus from Retro Studios in Austin, Texas, and several Mii Costumes are based on characters from Western studios. This was even disproven all the way back in the first game in the series, considering the present-day Donkey Kong was designed by the aforementioned Rare. "Ridley is too big" is probably the most infamous case of this trope. While Masahiro Sakurai had stated Ridley's size to be an issue that prevented the character from being included, fans took his comments as hard confirmation that the purple space dragon would never be in Smash ever. And then Ultimate rolled around, and guess who showed up... |
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